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Quote from wyrmhole

Of course I want to count all of the ores -- all of these items in their block form you find in the ground are "ores". Since the point of mining is to find resources underground, then these all count as stuff you find mining. And there's already enough.
So, what exactly do we need more ores for?

I think I made a pretty good case. There should at the very least be a nether ore. Currently there is no good reason to mine in the nether except to gather netherrack for eternal fires. It is so plentiful one trip covers you for a life time of a play for the environement you are in. I think it is pretty clear that something is missing here.
Again it is called "mine" craft. I already granted that there are 6 ores if you include non-metals so restating it doesn't make the argument stronger. I love every one of them just as you state. But yes more is not less. It is more. I wouldn't mind seeing wooden items break very easily and adding a copper level that is just a little better than wood. Gold looks pretty but falls apart quickly as it should, so copper is not equal to gold.

I just have a hard time understanding why people fight so hard for the status quo. Heck Terraraia has many times the number of ores and each one adds to the game. It creates a something to move through so you don't end up at the end game in a few hours. Unless I am in hardcore mode or on a pvp server where other players are after me I am in a full set of diamond armor and diamond tools in hours. That's too fast.

Quote from wyrmhole

What is another end-game option for tools going to add? "Oh it's diamond but stronger." Wow, that really added a lot to the game!

As for better than diamond I didn't mean just stronger but with other properties. Stronger is where you start, it isn't where you end. Alloys would be great. It would be nice to take copper and tin and make bronze for instance. And look just because you haven't imagined them doesn't mean we can't. Maybe nether ore armor makes "some" nether mobs ignore you the way pigzombies do. Maybe it works if you have a full set. Maybe a mix of ores makes interesting combinations so you have to decide between the right mix of durability and protection.

Quote from wyrmhole

We already have 4 levels of tools that are identical except for their speed and durability stats. More of the same is not actually more.

You half make my arguement for me. You seem to be arguing that there is little difference between the tools we have now. Yes what you say is true if strength is the only factor. Making them "merely" stronger or weaker is setting the bar too low. Use your imagination. This is Minecraft. Many things are possible. Perhaps a different ore/crystal allows you to see previous ores through only a few blocks of solid stone (say 2-3 not x-ray which is lame IMO). Perhaps another helps brewing new potions or changes an enchantment. Anything is possible if only we don't limit ourselves.

Ask yourself this. Why would they make the visible block limit go from 256 to 4096 if they have no intention of introducing new blocks. If they are going to introduce new blocks why would they introduce no ores at all to "MINE"craft as part of that?

Quote from wyrmhole

"More of the same because more is inherently better even if it adds nothing to the game but 'more'" is not a philosophy the makers of Minecraft share with you, and thank God for that. There are some mod makers that agree with you though, so you should check those out.

This is a strawman argument. At no point do I want or have ever said more of the same would be desired. More and different ores with different properties would be great. And, I have tried those mods and like pistons they added to the game and make mining worthwhile and interesting and not something to be ignored after hitting enough diamond to make a few blocks.

Let's not talk past each other. I love Minecraft. I really like the 6 ores we have now. I think what we have now is good and I love the changes I see coming. I am merely making a suggestion to an aspect of the game that hasn't gotten a lot of love in a good while and is in the name of the product itself.

the iron golem is right out of "laputa" isn't it?

Hey I'm having trouble when i play on Single Player iron golems are just plain white. Its pissing me off so could someone give me some advice?

Iron Golems huh? Prepare to die infidel.

The golem mob is invisible to me.
It's there (shadow and particle effects) but the mobs itself is invisible.

i cant wait to open a new world with a NPC seed and start hiting the golem with my fist!
EARLY IRON!
Also in the blacksmith i heard theres now a chest with armour in it!

What i would really like to see is more Options with Obsidian blocks, like Obsidian stairs and half blocks, and tools as well would be sweet! and maybe ever marble (a mix of smooth stone and Obsidian) that would be sweet!

But Overall i am quite pleased with the snapshot, though i am just waiting for 1.2 to come out so i can update my server so it has ocelots and jungles! then the real work starts on building towns and placing NPC's and writing quests. Ohh the JOYS!!!

Quote from Samuel Rowe

Stop with the snapshots ffs and just update Minecraft OMG.

The alternative to weekly snapshots would simply be getting nothing at all. There is no reason at all to even expect an update to the game of any kind at all, and it is due to the generosity of Mojang and tradition that they are even letting us see the progress of the game. In fact, if this was more like a real gaming company that didn't care about its customers, they would even be charging money for game updates.

Seriously, quick bitching about stuff like this. Not only does it show immaturity, it also shows a lack of understanding of the software development process. The next update will be ready when it is ready, and frankly I'm impressed that a real release schedule is happening with snapshots to find the bugs where the "official version" is actually stable. In the past (before version 1.0 "gold edition") any time there was a "x.0" release it was usually so buggy that the game was unusable.

I very much like this snapshot approach to software development as the developers are striving for a bug-free release rather than something so buggy that responsible players are refusing to update the game. I really don't want to go back to the days when an update was a crap shoot in terms of if somebody was going to be broken or not.

Iron golems can add a whole new fase to the game and give meaning to building forts/castles. The current iron overload in the game would also be not a bother any more and all we need is for the golems to.....

- be able to be ordered to stay on a spot. (like dogs and cats do)
- attack hostile mobs if they come in range of sight( like they do in villages)
- follow you (like dogs/cats do)...give it a flower !!
- patrole/walk around in area not following you( like in towns)
- attack on command !!!!

Enter: Minecraft(ed) Wars

Wat do you think?????

Lava now makes a sort of bubbling sound.

Who said vertical slabs? Now you're just talking nonsense!

Quote from Pinkieseb

i cant wait to open a new world with a NPC seed and start hiting the golem with my fist!
EARLY IRON!
Also in the blacksmith i heard theres now a chest with armour in it!

Those chests have existed since 1.1, and I wouldn't recommend hitting an iron golem because they can kill you in 1 hit.

There's a problem with the new terrain generation/chunk spawning code. Chunks do not render correctly and do not blend with other chunks as well anymore. After spawning a new world I discovered a plains biome chunk that had been cut short by an ocean chunk. Instead of meshing the two chunks into each other, one chunk abruptly ends with a strait drop all the way down to water level all along its eastern boundary, regardless of height.

I have a screenshot but its saved locally; i doesn't have a URL so I don't know how to upload it.

Wow that mob is amazingly ugly.

Quote from DarkStar187

There's a problem with the new terrain generation/chunk spawning code. Chunks do not render correctly and do not blend with other chunks as well anymore. I included a screen shot to show you exactly what I'm talking about.

you do realize we can't see inside your computer right?

Bug fixed, really?

Quote from jelmer1414

For some reason the iron golems are white, help please?

Me too.

Its a new snow tipe camo !!!

Quote from Tiigon

@Thirsty_Hirsty: I think so too - it looks very much the robots from Castle in the Sky.

First thing I thought. Love that movie. Love that movie.