Simon Lane (better known to Yogscast fans as Honeydew) has issued a response to recent statements regarding Yogscasts' alleged behavior at Minecon. They seemed somewhat confused and dismayed at statements regarding their behavior, stating that they were "surprised and confused about where this stuff has come from - especially since the only time we spoke to Notch was at the interview." Further comments by Simon emphasized happiness that they were able to connect to fans directly, and that the Yogscast crew were disappointed that they couldn't sign and meet every fan present.
Both sides of the dispute seem to point only to two tired parties having a minor misunderstanding, which is already clearing up. You can view the entire statement by Yogscastright here!
UPDATE: Notch has responded to the Yogscast's recent statement, noting that the situation is likely a "stress-related misunderstanding." He has apologized for his earlier comments, and seems as eager as the Yogscast crew to put the misunderstanding behind him.
make sure you read it again, because if you notice, they said yes to them almost swearing at the speach, but dinied everything else, but the speech was the only thing that was public, think that over a bit.
Wow I told you so. It was a misunderstanding and it was not there fault. But you were so quick to judge the yogscast and condemn them for things that had no proof. To those who stood by the yogscast I salute you.
buthow do know there just faking it to not make them look bad? they could EASLY be lying
How does this seem similar to something that has happened earlier this year?
The Bethesda thing? No, couldn't be!
This is actually what bothers me the most about this particular incident. The two are just really all too similar to pass off as incidental. People may champion Notch for being "transparent" on Twitter, but the reality is that saying things in certain ways in the public eye aren't being transparent, but instead aimed at shaming the other party or inciting anger toward them from their customer base/fans. The first thing I saw about that lawsuit was him saying Bethesda was suing over the name, which was blatantly false. It was their parent company's lawyer group making the suit, but saying that up front wouldn't have caused the internet storm that saying Bethesda did it did. Naturally, he had to "clarify" later as that wouldn't have held up to scrutiny, but the damage in terms of PR was already done.
So we jump forward to Minecon, and suddenly another seemingly out of nowhere attack appears on Twitter again. Now I'm not going to say he's outright lying. But let's look at this another way. Maybe he heard from someone that they overheard the Yogscast crew complaining amongst themselves that the con was being run poorly, which by all accounts, it was chaos for many people, and having had a decent amount of alcohol at the after party, took unneeded offense to it. The problem is that rather than talking it out, company to company, he went on the PR offensive and essentially threw them under the bus just like he did with Bethesda. With just a few vague accusations, they now had to go and publicly reply to try and recover thousands of subscribers and pray the idiots DDOSing their site would accept their side of the story and stop. It's a cowardly way to do business, and if he wasn't the owner of Mojang, any other company would likely have fired him for the potential public relations nightmare, not to mention legal ramifications it could bring about. I honestly don't give a damn about the petty fight; I'm still going to watch videos and play the game as I did before, but this should never have happened in the first place, and it's a shining example of how the face of your company shouldn't post both business and personal grudges on the same forum.
It's good that this has been resolved; I like Notch and the Yogscast equally, and find it hard to believe that either would do something like what had been mentioned.
Guys.. What the **** ?? i mean firstly.. i saw some dudes sayin like """"" I'll Stay on MOJANG's SIDE CUZ that that and that """""" i mean what the hell ?? it's not like the entire mojang team ****ed up with the yogscast.. it was just Notch who i really admire but come on now.. just ****ed up badly. and what the hell is up with all the hate flying from side to side ?? i mean they were drunk.. both probably.. probly notch could've seen some skinny ass dude wearing some glasses and a BIG(?) fat dwarf say something like **** YEAH !! and drunk as he was just tought it was the yogs guys.. so yeah lots of text here =P
I'm quite proud of Notch right now. From all the videos I've seen of him, he seems like a very kind, non-confrontational man. His beard even makes him look impossibly happy at all times. With the stress of Minecon, the culmination of the game he invented, it's not surprising to see he suffered some stress and said some things he regrets. But he spoke up and took the blame and apologized. That takes more guts than calling somebody out. Good on ya, Notch.
not sure if you realize this but it wasnt a rant as you put it, he was saying what he thought was said, the yogscast put out this post to disperse all the mis-understanding, i dont see how you wouldn't expect notch to act like he did. if someone walked up to you and said "F*** You" would you thank them? no you wouldn't (im not saying they did this is just an example with chocolate and sprinkles.. but sometimes vanilla ice-cream. or how about pepsi?)
Ok honestly, does it matter whos was more thought out or not?
If I was Notch I would be pretty stressed out about recieving threats and the sort from Yogscast fans. Not taking sides I just think someone has to defend the man who created this great game we all enjoy so much.
Now lets get back to playing, ehh?
I'm actually kind of curious when saying "I apologize for being a ****" on a twitter page became an actual apology worth anything? For that matter, what was he apologizing for? He already apologized for pushing the issue online rather than in private and went on to state he still stands by his claims against the Yogscast, so...
Anyone have any tips on how to get my boss to make a twitter account? Being able to absolve my "dickish-ness" through that method would be far easier than anything else.
I have no idea whether or not the Yogscast people did anything wrong. I don't watch their vids and only have a vague idea who they are. I could hardly care less about all the videos on youtube or all the twats on twitter... or whatever...
Regardless of what happened though there's no way Notch could be in the right here. He simply should not have said anything about it online until he had talked to the Yogscast about it. As a game designer, I have a lot of respect for Notch. But, as the leader and "frontman" for a company he's really not done so well. If he was just an average con-goer comments like that wouldn't matter but as a representative of Mojang he has a lot of influence on the opinions of the community. He should really think more before making posts that could hurt the image (and possibly livelihood) of another party. He has apologised for being a **** but really it's something that shouldn't happened in the first place.
Did you even read the article? It says Notch already apologized and he wants to put the whole thing behind him like the Yogscast do. The Yogsast probbaly wern't even thinking about what would happen after doing what they did and like Notch said, was "stress-related". Anyway, this is no reason to stop watching the Yogscast. <_<
Did you even read the article? It says Notch already apologized and he wants to put the whole thing behind him like the Yogscast do. The Yogsast probbaly wern't even thinking about what would happen after doing what they did and like Notch said, was "stress-related". Anyway, this is no reason to stop watching the Yogscast. :dry.gif:
You mean his twitter statement (Article? Really?) which was pre-faced with the word "likely"?
Also LOL at all the people who are posting stuff like "so are you saying Notch was lying?" Is that the limit of your imagination? You ca't picture someone (a retard) simply being mistaken about something? He goofed, that's all. Not malicious, just dumb.
It's hilarious that when Notch posted these comments on Twitter, people were all over the Yogscast. Now that they have responded, everyones going at Notch's throat. At his point, you can't call Notch on anything. The people who are saying that Yogscast/Notch is a ****, are the worst of all.
buthow do know there just faking it to not make them look bad? they could EASLY be lying
This is actually what bothers me the most about this particular incident. The two are just really all too similar to pass off as incidental. People may champion Notch for being "transparent" on Twitter, but the reality is that saying things in certain ways in the public eye aren't being transparent, but instead aimed at shaming the other party or inciting anger toward them from their customer base/fans. The first thing I saw about that lawsuit was him saying Bethesda was suing over the name, which was blatantly false. It was their parent company's lawyer group making the suit, but saying that up front wouldn't have caused the internet storm that saying Bethesda did it did. Naturally, he had to "clarify" later as that wouldn't have held up to scrutiny, but the damage in terms of PR was already done.
So we jump forward to Minecon, and suddenly another seemingly out of nowhere attack appears on Twitter again. Now I'm not going to say he's outright lying. But let's look at this another way. Maybe he heard from someone that they overheard the Yogscast crew complaining amongst themselves that the con was being run poorly, which by all accounts, it was chaos for many people, and having had a decent amount of alcohol at the after party, took unneeded offense to it. The problem is that rather than talking it out, company to company, he went on the PR offensive and essentially threw them under the bus just like he did with Bethesda. With just a few vague accusations, they now had to go and publicly reply to try and recover thousands of subscribers and pray the idiots DDOSing their site would accept their side of the story and stop. It's a cowardly way to do business, and if he wasn't the owner of Mojang, any other company would likely have fired him for the potential public relations nightmare, not to mention legal ramifications it could bring about. I honestly don't give a damn about the petty fight; I'm still going to watch videos and play the game as I did before, but this should never have happened in the first place, and it's a shining example of how the face of your company shouldn't post both business and personal grudges on the same forum.
This is beautiful.
If I was Notch I would be pretty stressed out about recieving threats and the sort from Yogscast fans. Not taking sides I just think someone has to defend the man who created this great game we all enjoy so much.
Now lets get back to playing, ehh?
Anyone have any tips on how to get my boss to make a twitter account? Being able to absolve my "dickish-ness" through that method would be far easier than anything else.
Regardless of what happened though there's no way Notch could be in the right here. He simply should not have said anything about it online until he had talked to the Yogscast about it. As a game designer, I have a lot of respect for Notch. But, as the leader and "frontman" for a company he's really not done so well. If he was just an average con-goer comments like that wouldn't matter but as a representative of Mojang he has a lot of influence on the opinions of the community. He should really think more before making posts that could hurt the image (and possibly livelihood) of another party. He has apologised for being a **** but really it's something that shouldn't happened in the first place.
You mean his twitter statement (Article? Really?) which was pre-faced with the word "likely"?
"I'd say it was me overreacting, and then falling for twitter peer pressure."
Now let's all forget this fiasco and move on, kthxbye.
Also LOL at all the people who are posting stuff like "so are you saying Notch was lying?" Is that the limit of your imagination? You ca't picture someone (a retard) simply being mistaken about something? He goofed, that's all. Not malicious, just dumb.