Notch Reveals Leveling and Permadeath

By WedTM Jul 20, 2011
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In a recent article on PC Gamer, Minecraft creator Markus "Notch" Persson explained a new leveling system for Minecraft versions to come.

“I’m a big roguelike fan,” explains Notch. “It’s really fun. The idea is that you level up really, really fast. You can grind away and level up fast if you want to, or you can just play as normal and level up that way. The longer you play, the bigger the risk of dying becomes. It’s the part that really works. If it feels like it’s too harsh, we might make it half or something like that. But the fact that you lose everything – you lose all your inventory anyways.”

This is looking like it's more and more to do with the much anticipated "Adventure Update" moniker that Patch 1.8 has been dubbed with.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
No, I dont want MC to become an RPG. I know it´s not my choice but this really sucks.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
ender, let us panic. Let this die like May 21st, Herobrine, Crying Obsidian, Gears......

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
Quote from LePheel

Wow.. I'm disappointed in all of the people who are writing on this thread.
PLEASE READ MORE BEFORE YOU POST
Anyone who knows anything about the Adventure mode should understand it is just that.. a SEPARATE GAME MODE.
THIS WILL NOT AFFECT ALL YOUR SAVES
It is a separate game mode, just like survival is serpate from creative or classic. Do you think everyone that played creative started to complain like "OMG Notch you're adding health? What? Mobs? THIS IS MADNESS!" "Minecraft isn't a RPG! Don't add crafting and monsters this is dumb! PETITION AGAINST IT!!"
Of course not... this is just a different direction. The hunger and experience/leveling will probably be a part of the "Hardcore" or "Realistic Modes" that may include Perma-death. So please stop your senseless complaints about "OMG WE NEED TO MOD THIS OUT"... It's OBVIOUSLY going to be a separate mode, so just calm down kids!!

There is no adventure mode, not in 1.8 anyway.

And if there is, I would still like hunger added into survival. How do you survive if you don't need to eat?

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
1.8 Arrives, 500k players rage quit

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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ender, let us panic. Let this die like May 21st, Herobrine, Crying Obsidian, Gears......

no.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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1.8 Arrives, 500k players rage quit

500k illiterate wimps.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
@Hayola,

Sooooo true... if Notch keeps this or doesnt put it in adventure mode.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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No, I dont want MC to become an RPG. I know it´s not my choice but this really sucks.

READ THE POSTS

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
SHUT THE CRUD UP ENDER

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
I wonder what you get when you level up.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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I wonder what you get when you level up.

that won't matter if notch listens to the retarded fans of the world.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
Looking forward to Minecraft becoming a game. Can't wait to see how they make this all fit together!

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
Here come the 9001 anti-permadeath mods.
That are all renamed adf.ly copies of the first one made.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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Great how this discussion is an almost 1:1 copy of the one in the 1.8 discussion thread... People, let's just stay calm. It will be FUN!

Do not mourn. It's only change. I always was an advocate of NO RPG elements in the game. But I am slowly turning.

You know:

'If it ain't fun, it'll be removed!'

mc aws already rpg but whta fun is rpg without the elements of an rpg?

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
Wouldn't hardcore and realistic kind of fit in the same place...

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Looking forward to Minecraft becoming a game. Can't wait to see how they make this all fit together!

THANK YOU

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
But what are we leveling up for?

That is the big question... what's worth grinding over? I am afraid that with the leveling system we will either have extremely powerful characters or really really weak characters. Unless the hostile mobs also display level.

Don't get me wrong, I love rougelikes, but I just hope Notch implements this well. I feel like this could either make or break the game. Minecraft is not quite an rpg just because there is a leveling system either, there are many more steps to making an rpg; it's not just the leveling system. It's best we make judgements when 1.8 is released.

And I know most of you are jumping the gun here so I'm going to quote this snippet:

The Minecraft developer is still figuring out how players will level. “I’m not entirely sure on how the levelling is going to work, because that part isn’t as fun. We’re trying to figure out something that is fun, and kinda lightweight. We’re thinking of getting an automated XP system. It’s not implemented in any way that makes any kind of sense at the moment.”

Adding progression and permadeath could be a risky move for Minecraft’s vast playerbase. I asked Notch whether he’s concerned about ruining the purity of the game he’s created.

“It’s the biggest risk,” he acknowledges. “We have to make sure that it’s fun, and as streamlined as possible. I kind of figured out that a really good test of what works or not is when I go back to 1.7.3 – the previous version. If it feels like it’s lacking that feature, if it feels like it should be in there.

“But it’s what I like about roguelikes, like Nethack – everything is dangerous.”

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
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It's nice to know that you are trying to inform everyone that everything is going to be fine but can you SHUT THE HELL UP!

They can say their opinion about what they think about this, that isnt going to help much.

but what if it ruins a feature? whta if notch removes it? that ruins it for everyone NORMAL

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
thats major bs if they put permadeath in without a way to turn it off i might just quit minecraft altogether.

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Posted Jul 20, 2011
Permadeath? Eh... Hunger shouldn't be toggle-able but maybe permadeath should. Leveling sounds awesome but I don't want this game to leave the sandbox genre. It should be as survival as possible without removing that classic sandbox feeling.

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