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Hi guys I'm very excited about the addition of cherry trees (Sakura) and my life long dream of making a Japanese home will finally be real

however I would love if Jeb goes that extra mile and add a petal effect to the trees, I mean if your near a cherry tree, flower petals should float in the air and down to the ground

it would add such a beautiful effect

I have no idea how they can do this and I hope there is a way to do it without adding strain on the game

it would be purely visual

Hi guys I was thinking.. what if they add a third option in the map generator options??!!

the crazy/insane/random option!!!

this option will generate a world that does not make sense where mountains float and oceans spawn above sea level and all sort of crazy generation stuff can happen

it will be like the old random-ness but with more craziness and fun

just imagine a massive ocean water fall spilling into a bed rock deep crack in the ground or a pyramid under water ...etc

could be fun

yah I hope some one reads this, the hunger issue is getting out of hand.... I
m literary bored to tears from having to eat every time I look at my weapon

allow us to place carpets on stairs...

what will this do???

new types of furniture with many colors

better looking stairs

simple and nice

Hi, first of all I used search and I know this subject has been suggested before BUT not like this

its usually either about fishing or adding some new sea plant...etc, in other words fragmented topics.

my topic will be about ALL THE THINGS in the sea AND aquariums

we all suspect that the next update will be oceanic in nature so lets throw our 2 cents and maybe something the devs missed will pop up here.


1-Fish:

their should be colored/different fish in the sea/ocean and i mean LOTS AND LOTS like 30+ kinds and they should have different behavior and sizes.

-example some fish are really small and would swim in schools (the school of fish will be one creature) some are large and slow and some swim in large packs of 4 or 5

-also their should be sea turtles AND sharks that roam the waters eating fish and jellyfish (turtle food)

-Jellyfish can also be found, that have different colors and sizes and are generally harmful of you get near them

-on the floor of the sea you can find crabs of different sizes AND manta rays, manta rays stay low (2, 3 blocks above surface) and come up at night to eat plankton (they just move around they won't eat anything XD)

in general all sea creatures are neutral to you if you try and hit one with ur weapon it will flee unless its a shark then it might attack you, hitting sea creatures will SOMETIMES make them drop loot but the best way to have the sea loot is to FISH IT OUT

2-Fishing:

now fishing is transformed from a meh activity to something fun and exciting because you might never know what you will catch, some fish types are easier to catch in rivers while others near shores and some in the deep ends, but always their is a random chance of catching any type of sea creature.

-creatures that you can't fish are sharks and turtles because they are very large (player size)

-when u fish a creature out it will be added to your inventory and it will have an appropriate name/type the fish will stay alive for 5 minutes (as in it will have alive tag next to its name)

-why is this important... because if you have a water bucket u can drag and add the fish to it and you will have a bucket with that fish in it and it will stay alive.... AND then if you spill that bucket into a water body that fish will appear in it enabling you to actually catch fish and create an aquarium in your home

- Not all fish are good to eat, some are poisons and can be used in potions if you cook a fish or creature you will have its "loot"

-example:
-if you cook a jelly fish you will get a noxious jelly mix and this can be added to arrows to make them poisonous.

-if you cook a blue fish you will get a cooked blue fish

-if you cook and barracuda you will get a sliver scale which can be used to make a potion that allows you to move faster in water.

-if you cook a crab it will give you crab meat which can be used to craft the majestic crab cake

and so on and so forth

3-Sea Plants:

OK think reeds... only under water, on the sea floor these sea weeds will grow to 8-9 block high while under water, these weeds will act like air blocks and will not impede any blocks or player movement they will just look pretty and can be harvested with shears

also their will be coral blocks that have different colors and shapes on the sea floor these will spawn above the ground level and will look pretty :P, they can be harvested to decorate home aquariums

that's it for now feel free to add stuff of your own

ME LIKEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

hope they add snow villages cause now snow biome are the most hated

Quote from Riolu

Blue jays, cardinals, and hawks don't really have a purpose other than just being there.

same goes for lily pads and lapuis and dragon egg and bats, but BEHOLD they are there ...funny thing that is!!!

i would still build my massive all directional tracks

if u can tie donkeys to horses and then leash the horse and have a nice caravan I will die from happiness

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Table of Contents:

Overview
Changes in how things work
Frequently Asked Questions
[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod!
Gallery
Supporting this suggestion
Special thanks

[spoiler=Tl:dr]Q: Won't this increase lag?
A: Absolutely not. The title of this suggestion and big red letters at the top of this post aren't lying. If you want to know how, then I suggest you actually read this post.

Q: Will this change terrain? Will this break existing worlds?
A: No. Terrain change is not necessary. Existing worlds can be converted fairly easily with a process described later in this post.

Q: How can sunlight or rain work with infinite vertical space?
A: I suggest you read Coping with sunlight, because it's too complex for a tl;dr.

Q: I have a different question but still don't feel like reading this post. What do I do?
A: Too bad, read the FAQ. I put way too much work into this for the entirety of it to be ignored.[/spoiler]

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Overview:

In Minecraft, the sky is the limit - literally. It doesn't matter how many thousands of blocks a player has traveled, or what dimension they're in, or even if they're playing in creative or survival, the highest they can ever build is up to a height of 256. Why is that? If Minecraft can have a world that's infinite in the north, in the south, in the east, and in the west, why can't that world be infinite up and down too?

In Minecraft's earliest days, in Classic and Indev, the world was not infinite in any direction. This was because the entire world needed to be generated at the same time, and the entire world needed to be simulated at the same time as well. This led to a conundrum - the bigger the world, the more it lagged.
Notch didn't like this. He knew his players liked to explore and build large creations, so he found a way to make the world truly infinite. When the Minecraft '' class='bbc'>Infdev came out, it brought with it truly infinite worlds. Suddenly, players could travel hundreds of thousands of blocks in any direction, and never encounter a barrier, or become too laggy.
The Infdev update brought about a very large change to Minecraft worlds to accomplish this feat. For the first time, instead every world being just a single huge piece, they were broken up into a two-dimensional grid of pieces, called chunks. Through breaking the world up into pieces, this 'chunk system' enabled infinite worlds by letting Minecraft create new pieces and simulate them only when it needs to.

Why does that not apply to the vertical axis? Because the type of 'chunk system' Minecraft uses right now is a linear one, which, by using only a two-dimensional grid to map out chunks, means that it is impossible for chunks to stack on top of one another, and by extension, meaning that a single chunk must cover the entire vertical space. This brings back the problem that the Infdev update was supposed to eradicate, now only with chunks, instead of an entire world; the bigger a chunk is, the more laggy it is. You can't just increase the height limit and make chunks taller, because it will become laggier, and laggier, and laggier to do it.
That's why, to fix this, Minecraft must change over to a cubic chunk system. Under this system, 16³ block chunks are aligned on a three-dimensional grid, completely eliminating maximum height as an aspect of lag.

The immediate benefits:
•Minecraft worlds become as virtually infinite vertically as they are horizontally: The absolute limit being Y = ±30,000,000.
•A large FPS increase: Alpha testers report an FPS increase of 100~200%.
•Increase in running capability: Computers running Minecraft on Tiny render distance will handle only 30% the blocks they do now.

The possible features:
•Spherical render/load distance: Reduce handled blocks by up to 30% by cutting corners made of unneeded chunks.
•Server chunk occlusion/exclusion: Reduce bandwidth usage and defeat hackers by only sending data for visible chunks.
•Three-dimensional biomes: Save biome data per chunk rather than per block column, create volcanoes with magma chambers, underground rivers, tropical skylands floating over icy taigas, and more.

The disadvantages:
•Unloaded gravity-pause: Falling non-player entities and fluids will be forced to pause their fall if they reach unloaded chunks, but will resume falling when those chunks are loaded.
•Slow falling-pause: Players with slower computers and smaller render distances will have falling occasionally paused as they fall into unloaded chunks, until new chunks can be loaded.

The problems:
•Current sunlight and rain calculation methods cannot work with infinite vertical space: The solution to this is described here.
•Current BiomeDecorator cannot work with multiple vertical chunks simultaneously: The BiomeDecorator code must be altered to function correctly with this, or removed.
•Current cave generation method is executed an extra time for each vertical chunk created simultaneously, leading to lag spikes on world generation: Cave generation's method must be altered to suit this system more.
•Current grass/dirt generation algorithm forces additional chunk requests when chunks are loaded, causing chunks to load slower than they should: This algorithm must be replaced with something else.

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Changes in how things work:

Obviously, the implementation of this new chunk system will change quite a few things. These changes are mostly either necessary or in the interest of increased efficiency. Such changes are categorized and explained below.

How worlds will be stored:
[spoiler]How the current storage works, and what changes:
Interestingly enough, the current method of storage, the Anvil format, is derived from the storage method that the original Cubic Chunks mod used. The Anvil format stores individual chunk as a series of 16³ quasi-cubic chunks. These 'fake' cubic chunks allow for easier reference of specific data, but they still can't be separated from each other, meaning that it fails to reap the full benefits of this system. Even so, the change allowed Mojang to double the maximum height with no performance hit. Chunks are stored in groups of 32², inside 'MCRegion' files, for a total of 1024 chunks.
By nature, cubic chunks does away with the 'quasi-cubic' nonsense. In terms of chunk grouping, instead of using groups of 32³ chunks, new "3DRegion" files would contain groups of 16³. This means each 3DRegion file contains 4096 chunks, four times as many as MCRegion files. However, each 3DRegion contains only one fourth the amount of blocks. For per-chunk positional metadata, 3DRegion files would use the same number of bits as MCRegion files, after compression. Calculations show that the same area encompassed by a single MCRegion file would consume 64 kilobytes of extra space with 4 3DRegion files, which is nothing.

Converting existing worlds:
Most people are probably wondering something like "But won't this totally destroy all existing worlds?". Absolutely not; conversion could not be simpler. When a non-cubic world is loaded after the implementation of this system, a conversion process will begin and convert the entire world at once(To avoid making chunk loading take longer during play). First, all existing MCRegion files will be divided into quarters to create 3DRegion files. Then, all existing chunks are divided into sixteenths using the quasi-cubic properties to identify boundaries. After that, conversion is done.

The "isEmpty" flag optimization:
A 1-bit flag is added to each chunk, named "isEmpty". If the chunk consists of 100% air blocks, this bit is 1, any other case makes it 0. When the bit is 1, all data for the chunk besides the isEmpty flag is deleted and ignored, which reduces filesize. Empty chunks are never loaded, and locations where they occur are merely simulated as entities reside in them. The chunk will only load when something requires saving inside it.[/spoiler]

Changes to terrain, ores, etcetera:
[spoiler]Terrain:
By default, nothing will change. Small bits of terrain generation code need to be reconfigured to work properly with Cubic Chunks.

Biomes:
By default, nothing will change.

Ore generation:
By default, nothing will change.

Structures:
By default, nothing will change.

The Void:
After conversion to Cubic Chunks, the void and bedrock layer will still exist and generate as they always have. However, the void(Not the bedrock layer!) will not exist as a hard limit and is able to be moved, but not removed, by editing an associated NBT data tag inside a world's level.dat. This feature, that allows for increasing the maximum depth, is intentionally disabled without external programs, to prevent terrain change of any sort. It is intended to be used by experienced mapmakers and world generation mods only.

Superflat settings:
Existing superflat worlds will not change. However, new superflat worlds will gain a new decoration parameter, 'void'. Inclusion of this parameter will cause the void to form below the lowest defined layer. Exclusion of it will cause all layers below the lowest defined layer to copy the settings of that layer.[/spoiler]

Coping with sunlight:
[spoiler]There used to be a solution here, but it wasn't deemed good enough by Jeb. Suggest solutions in this thread.[/spoiler]

Changes to servers:
[spoiler]Settings:
There's a setting inside the Server.properties file called 'max-build-height'. The setting makes it impossible for any player to place or remove blocks above that height.
With the implementation of Cubic Chunks, a new setting named "maximum-generation-depth" would be added. The void, bedrock layers, and magma layers will generate normally at and above the Y level designated by the value of this setting.

Chunk occlusion/exclusion:
Using the raytracing methods already available in the code and used for explosion calculations, servers can identify which chunks are visible to a player, within safe assumptions, and only send the data for those chunks. This both reduces bandwidth usage, and cripples the usefulness of X-Ray cheats.[/spoiler]

Render/Load distance alterations:
[spoiler]After the implementation of Cubic Chunks, view distances' radii will apply to the vertical axis too. This reduces handled blocks in the cases of tiny and short render distances, and increases them in the cases of normal and far render distances. This can be optimized by utilizing a spherical render distance instead of a cubic one, which would reduce handled blocks in all distances except Far.[/spoiler]

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Frequently Asked Questions:

[spoiler=FAQ]Q: This is impossible.
A: No it's not. See below.

Q: Is this available as a mod?
A: Not yet! But it will be!

Q: I like X-ray! What if I don't want it to be broken?
A: First of all, breaking X-ray hacks will only be possible to do in multiplayer. That said, the system that would break X-ray would be possible to disable by the server owner. If the owner doesn't disable the system, then they don't want you using X-ray, and you should not be doing what the server owner doesn't want in the first place.

Q: I play on a PvP/Anarchy/Raid/Faction server. Won't this system let people pillar up into the sky and create a base thousands of blocks in the air and never be found?
A: No.

Q: I like Minecraft's current height limits. What if I don't want to have an infinite sky or infinite underground?
A: If this system is added, all worlds will not automatically gain an infinite underground. As stated below, the Void will remain in all worlds, even after the conversion to Cubic Chunks. The ability to remove the Void will simply be there. As for infinite space in the sky, the current build limit is over one hundred blocks above any terrain that vanilla Minecraft can possibly generate. It is ENTIRELY your decision on whether or not you take advantage of this height. If you play on a server, like stated above, the server owner can set a maximum build height. If s/he doesn't, then don't play on their server - you don't play on servers where the server owners allow things you don't like. Why would you play on an anarchy server if you hate being stolen from and killed?

Q: Will this affect Redstone at all?
A: No. This system will simply make it possible to make larger redstone circuitry than before.

Q: Won't this break existing worlds?
A: No. Existing worlds can be easily converted by dividing each MCRegion file into 4 pieces, then slicing the existing 256 block-high chunks inside them into 16 individual chunks.

Q: Won't this affect mods? Won't mod authors have a hard time updating their mods?
A: The answer to this question depends solely on the answer to the following two questions: Do parts of the modification code rely on chunk data/metadata? Does the mod author want to take advantage of the features of the new chunk system? If the answers to the first and second question are both "No", then updating a mod to this system should be very easy and quick. If the answer to the first question is "Yes", then those parts of the code will need to be rewritten somewhat, but in most cases, the changes should be fairly quick and easy. The only time that it should be hard to update a mod to this system, is if the answer to the second question is "Yes".

Q: Won't this require a total rewrite of the mod API if that's released first?
A: No. Whether or not even a small part of the mod API needs to be rewritten depends on the way that it is implemented and whether or not there are API inclusions for chunk handling and other chunk-related behavior.

Q: Could a player fall into unloaded chunks if chunks aren't loaded fast enough?
A: No, they could not, and for several reasons. Minecraft has a terminal velocity, though it might not seem like it. This velocity is slower than it should take to load new chunks below the player. In cases with exceptionally slow computers, even if the player did manage to reach an unloaded chunk, their fall would be paused until that chunk can be loaded.

Q: What would happen when water, sand, or a mob falls into an unloaded chunk?
A: Nothing. The water/sand/mob would freeze in place until the chunk is loaded and it can continue moving. You can already see this same thing happening on the horizontal axis.

Q: What will happen to the Void?
A: It will still exist, along with all its effects. The only difference is that the Void is no longer a hard limit and it can be moved. After the conversion to Cubic Chunks, the Void's location will be stored in a world's ' class='bbc'>level.dat, and this location can be changed with NBT editing tools. When and where the Void exists, chunks will cease to generate.

Q: Will this affect terrain?
A: No. However, terrain generators will gain the ability to use infinite height.

Q: Will this affect ore generation?
A: No. Ore is a part of terrain generation. As stated above, terrain will not be changed.

Q: Won't all current terrain generators be incompatible with this system and need to be rewritten?
A: No. Terrain generators work independently of chunks. When a chunk is generated for the first time, it calls the terrain generator and receives a specific section of the resultant terrain to save inside itself. Because of this, some custom terrain generators can generate steep terrain all the way to Y256, where you can experience a large, flat cut-off. Since there are no chunks above Y256 to call the terrain generator for terrain, no terrain exists there.

Q: What would happen if there's a huge solid ceiling so far above you that it is unloaded? Wouldn't you just see the sky, just with everything being completely dark?
A: Yes. This already happens on the horizontal axis, and it is an issue with sky rendering, not this chunk system. As such, this has nothing to do with this suggestion. Please do not post about this.

Q: If you go deep underground, will your plants grow/ores smelt/animals grow?
A: No, because those chunks would be unloaded, just as if you had walked far away. This is a flaw with any chunk system, regardless of shape. It is a necessary evil that allows Minecraft to have infinite worlds. The only way to fix this would be to introduce a separate new system that works with chunks as they are loaded and unloaded. This suggestion deals with the chunk system itself, and not sister processes. Because of that, that is outside of the scope of this suggestion. Please do not post about this.[/spoiler]

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[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod! (Tall Worlds Mod):

Cuchaz has taken it upon himself to bring us the glorious Cubic Chunks, since Mojang refuses to do so.

Cuchaz is using a API of his own creation to help assist in the making of this mod, and he's quite far along, as seen in these two tech demo videos:
[spoiler=T-Demo 1: Vertical chunk loading][/spoiler]
[spoiler=T-Demo 2: Broken height cap and no lag!][/spoiler]
With the basic functionality in place - a complete overhaul of the basic chunk system, and height limit removed - this whole concept can already be considered proven. What remains is making sure everything else functions correctly under the new chunk system. In any case, stay tuned for future updates if it interests you(If it doesn't, then you are the weakest link - goodbye!).

You can follow the mod's development in much more depth in its very own topic!

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Gallery:

[spoiler=A mountainside with an experimental engine using Cubic Chunks designed by Nocte. 960 block view radius, and 30 FPS.][/spoiler]
[spoiler=A different view of the mountainside with the same engine by Nocte. This time, with 1600 block view radius and 15 FPS.][/spoiler]
[spoiler="A video demonstrating Nocte's engine."]

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Special thanks:
Cuchaz, for taking Barteks' proof and running with it, to give us a truly functional Cubic Chunks mod.
Barteks2x, for updating the Cubic Chunks mod to 1.6.2, proving that it is possible.
Azraile, for posting the original suggestion and allowing me to take ownership of it.
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Flexico, for creating the predecessor to the current banner.
laz2727, for creating the current banner.
Robinton, for creating the original Cubic Chunks mod.
The_Watchman13, for answering all those stupid questions so I don't have to.

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First, I have been lately noticing people posting their own ideas for my suggestion. There are some pretty cool ones, and I like them a lot! But please, don't let me steal your ideas! Start your own thread instead. I will certainly check them out! This idea is big enough already. : )

Second of all, I want to say that this would be optional, you could have the "old" world type and the "extended" world type. It might also be interesting to see the player select the levels they want in world settings, because this is a mouthful.

Third, I made this suggestion without ever knowing or seeing the "cubic chunks" suggestion. This increases world height too, but also increases world variety.

Fourth, people here don't seem to know how to read. Right below this, there's an explanation HOW THIS DOES NOT LAG. No matter how much I tell people this, they don't even listen. READ THE ENTIRE POST.

Finally, I know that this idea might not be realistic. On the other hand, I do want people to support the idea and continue to polish a mod of this. One fun thing to see would be an adventure map. Because of this, I want to put this idea on the mod suggestions page. But, if for some reason this could be added, I'll keep it here.

What about the lag?

Now I know what you might be thinking. Chunks are loaded in the x and z direction, and are actually 256 blocks high. This would cause major lag, wouldn't it? My proposal is to have each layer load separately, with portals between each layer, meaning occasional portals on the ceiling and floor. The largest layer is in fact only around 256 blocks, and the other layers won't be loaded at the time. This might even cause high performance on small layers that only have around 75 blocks. These portals would be a 3x3 area going straight down, and would about every 10 or so chunks.

A portal to the next layer:
Picture credit: DrWeegee123


Here's my idea:


Surface:



You might know what this is. It's the normal surface, duh. No changes there.


Hardware level:


This is also a level you should be familiar with. The caves haven't really started yet, but there should be plenty of iron and coal lying around.



Mob level:


This is usually around level 20 or 30. This is before some of the rare ores start appearing, and there are monsters swarming the place.



Rare Ore level:


This is the last level you're familiar with. This is around where you get all the diamonds, lapis, redstone, emeralds, gold, etc. At this point, you have to jump through a portal to the next level.



Drop level:


This is where things get interesting. There are giant drop offs that go down hundreds of blocks. Lava would be flowing down the side of these, and ores from the rare ore level may be found in the rock. You would spawn on an area near the edge of the drop. The rock that makes up this drop is mostly stone. There might be huge stalactites hanging from the ceiling, also made out of stone. As the drop continues, there is less lapis and redstone, but more metals like gold, diamond and emerald. These drops continue for 200 or so blocks.

Picture credit: Valiec2019
(with night vision)




Maze level:


This level is basically a huge maze of caves. It doesn't look like a maze, but it is one, winding, dead ending, and constantly forking off. Ores like gold, diamond, and emerald continue to appear, but appear rarely. This level also contains some new materials, such as acanthite ore, which becomes silver ingot when smelted. This cannot be used for any type of tools or armor, but is very valuable for villagers in trade, and can also be smelted from its ingot form into silver dust. Silver is a very conductive material. It will work like redstone, but will travel for 25 blocks instead of 15. Silver dust can also be used in potions to make a potion of cloaking, which make you invisible to mobs, but not to other players. This dust can also be a rare drop from iron golems. This level winds down for another 200 blocks, before you arrive at a portal.
Picture credit: PD101
(This is an example of what silver might look like, but not a model of the actual level)




Crystal level:


This is the level where new crystals are found. These include sapphire, aquamarine, and ruby. They are all valuable trading items. This level continues for about 150 blocks

Sapphire:



Sapphire is an interesting block. Besides its value in trade, it can be crafted with nine into a sapphire block, which is purely for decoration. Sapphire can also be used in enchanting. Combine a book with sapphire crystal in an anvil and you get a random enchantement (Mostly low level enchants, no OP enchants). Sapphire is also fairly rare. For every 10 redstone, there is one sapphire ore.

Aquamarine:


Despite being mostly useless, aquamarine has interesting water powers. When crafted with nine aquamarine crystals, you get an aquamarine block. This block is helpful with plants, and plants grow faster when close to it. It isn't too hard to find, about as rare as gold.

Ametrine:



This crystal is considered to be a crystal of greed. It's a mix of shiny purple and orange. It's easy to spot in a cave. Villagers will go to ridiculous extent to obtain these in trade. When in block form, mobs of all types will be attracted to it. Cave mobs, such as skeletons, creepers, and zombies, will have glowing purple eyes while seeing this block. It can also be put on the end of pickaxes to make them mine faster than usual. These are called ametrine tipped pickaxes. To craft it, you need your pickaxe of choice with one ametrine crystal on either side. This ametrine is very rare. For every 10 diamonds, there is one ametrine crystal.


Picture credit: DrWeegee123



Compressed level:


This level is full of gaping ravines, and is the level of most value to the player. Here, the ores are of the same rarity, but look a little different. Multiple drops come from these compressed ores. Diamond, emerald, and gold ore drop 2-3 per ore. redstone drops 10, lapis drops plenty as well. This level is about 100 blocks.

Picture credit: Valiec2019



Bedrock Planes level:

The bedrock planes level is an open, flat area of bedrock with no ores. There is a low roof of bedrock about 20 blocks above you. Instead of pools of lava, there are entire lakes of a similar substance. Molten iron. If water is poured onto it, the water disappears in a puff of smoke. If you jump in, it kills you in about 2 seconds, but it can be collected with a special type of bucket. This doesn't have much use, but has incredibly long smelting time. Sometimes, you might come across a piece of bedrock that looks a little broken. It's called fragmented bedrock, and can collected with an ametrine tipped diamond pickaxe. Fragmented bedrock cannot be used in any swords or tools, but cannot be blown up or broken by the wither. There is also the fragmented bedrock bucket, which can hold molten iron. The molten iron, besides the smelting time, is a trophy representing the skilled caver. This level stretches about 100 blocks.



Near nether level:


This place seems like the normal caves, but there are traces of netherack, and you can hear the sounds of the nether nearby. You may here the sound of a blaze or screams in the distance, but wherever you mine, you will find nothing. There also may be a few quartz lying around. This level lasts for about 100 blocks.

Picture credit: Valiec2019




Lava level:


This level is made up of giant lava falls and cobblestone, lighting up the caves like a flame in the dark. This level stretches down for about 50 blocks, and looks like a giant ravine. There are still a few traces of bedrock on the walls.
Picture credit: SnailsAttack1





Near void level:



This level is a jaw dropping hole in the minecraft world, a rip in the fabric of the gaming universe. The void is not present here, but has started to “Infect” this level, and there is a weak effect of the void here, around half a heart every 10 seconds. The best and safest way to pass this level would be with a bucket of water and a golden apple. This level lasts about 100 blocks.



Deep world level:



On this level, all ores are twice as common. They are almost everywhere. But the mobs here are twice as powerful. They have more health, and more armor, but nothing else. This dangerous level lasts for around 75 blocks.

Picture credit: Valiec2019


Darkness level:

When you get to this level, everything goes eerily quiet. You can place torches, but they emit less light than usual. The caves slope down, curving into an even darker area, which keeps on descending. Night vision potions do not work in this area. There are also new blocks, like dark stone, which takes longer to collect than normal. This level goes for a whopping 250 blocks, convincing the player to turn back and give up.

Abandoned caves level:

If the player has been brave and patient enough, they will receive a reward. Light will begin to shine around the corners. They will encounter the cave villages, an incredibly large network of underground homes, all abandoned. Most chests are empty, but some may have useful loot. This place looks like it was left in a hurry. The caves continue to lower villages, which eventually continue farther underground. This level is about 100 blocks.

Mutation level:

As you continue down, you get to an area blocked off by iron bars and wood. This was obviously placed by the cave villagers, but why? This is why they left. If you jump through a portal, you will encounter giant ravines of "mutated" mobs. These mobs are more hostile than usual, and have buffed health as well as speed. Creepers will explode in a slightly larger radius. There are waterfalls of a poisonous, green substance that will kill you if you touch it. This level lasts another 100 blocks.

Void level:

You spawn where the caves continue down, and there are giant gaping holes that go into the void. The void is as black as night, and there is treasure for the most risking explorer. On the underside of this, just above the void, is plenty of compressed ore everywhere. This includes a new block, supercooled obsidian. This is almost indestructible, but doesn't have much use. There is also heated obsidian, which is easier to break than normal. Combining supercooled and heated obsidian in a crafting table gives you 2 obsidian blocks. The most mysterious thing about this level is for the closely observant only. Ever so often, there may be a trace of endstone, or the faint roar of an enderdragon below...

Picture credit: Herobrine150400
(With night vision)




Far Void level:



This is where the real void begins. Blocks can still be placed, but there is the full effect of the void on you. Legend tells of an ancient race who carved the paths below the void. There is the age-old saying that no one has deciphered. “At middle earth, light shines on”



Forgotten level:



This is the level below the void. The secret to get here is to drop from a point where x and z can both be divided by 100, and stay in the shaft of light. You will then get the building terrain screen. Below is the forgotten level. This level is pitch black, and the only mobs that spawn are the shadows. The shadows are like normal mobs, but they are completely black with glowing red eyes (Almost like they’re not there). If any of them attack you, you get the blindness effect. At day, the shadow mobs hid. Hurry through, the shadow mobs will come in giant waves of attacks at night, which will surely kill you. This level is around 230 blocks deep.

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Evil level:



There are only two new blocks on this level. There’s fragmented cobblestone, and also there’s soul obsidian, said to contain the crying spirits of victims who had fallen into the void. It’s slightly easier to mine than normal obsidian. It has a 2 out of 3 chance dropping normal obsidian, and a 1 out of 3 chance of poisoning you for 20 seconds. This level is about 70 blocks.

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Final labyrinth level:



This is the very last level there is. Another cave-like maze stretching over the entire bottom of the world. The walls are made of fragmented bedrock, and the floor is made of normal bedrock. There is a very rare chance you will stumble upon a material called forgotten gemstone. It currently has no use, but represents the fact you are a ridiculously hardcore miner. When broken, a portal appears. Jump through the portal, and you will be teleported back up to the mutation level. Now to get your way back to the surface…
Picture Credit: Valiec2019





This is my idea. I spent quite a while on this, so I would greatly appreciate constructive feedback on what sounds like a good idea.
Also, any pictures on what it could look like will be put in the picture gallery. If they seem good enough and you want them in there, they will be put in there. A banner for this would be amazing.
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Obsidian vs. supercooled obsidian:
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Staring at a shadow in the eyes:
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Where light shines on:
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Wouldn't it be great if there was an alternative to dispensers for long-range murder? Now there is! Ever want to prevent griefers from getting too close to your house? Now you can!

Lens:

A variant of dispenser. Crafted by creating a horizontal "horseshoe" shape with prismarine bricks, then placing a Guardian Eye in the center, and a glass pane in the remaining slot. Looks like a regular dispenser tinted turquoise, with an eye-like lens on the front. When powered, it sustains a beam of energy extending 15 blocks in front of it. The beam can be made to go farther by shooting it through a Redirector.

The beam is obstructed by blocks and entities. By default, the beam is purple, but will charge up to a light yellow before dealing damage and resetting, similar to a guardian. However, it will do so more rapidly, but dealing half the damage and with no lock-on system. Entities obstructing the beam will be harmed 1 1/2 hearts every hit, and taking a second or so to recharge. If the beam is blocked or the entity moves out of the beam, it will slowly cool back down to its purple standby state. Does not require ammunition, but maximum DPS is overall much lower than an arrow dispenser on a fast clock.

Guardian Eye: An uncommon drop for guardians, with a 5% drop rate. Used in crafting the Lens, and the Overseer.



Redirector: A small square panel on the edge of a stick, similar to a sign. The stick is just the right length to suspend the panel in the perfect center of the block. The Redirector can be placed facing in any of the 26 directions (all cardinal and diagonal directions), and will automatically redirect any beams intersecting it towards the direction that it is facing. (think the glass cubes in portal 2) Beams will travel 15 blocks from the last reflector before fizzling.

Overseer: A tile entity that can be placed on floors, wall, and ceilings. It appears to be a large eye affixed to these surfaces by a quadrupedal stand. The eye can rotate independently of the stand. The eye will watch the closest mob or player within 15 blocks, and will emit a redstone signal strength inversely proportionate to the distance of the closest target. This is basically a proximity detector, but it must have a line of sight to the target with no solid block obstructions. If line of sight to the target is broken, the next-closest mob or player will be targeted instead. Crafted with a Guardian Eye in the top middle slot, four sticks in the left bottom and middle slots, and the right bottom and middle slots, and a redstone block in the center.

Filters can be applied by crafting an overseer, a named piece of paper and another specific item. Filters can be entity-type specific (Creeper, Zombie, Player, MinecartRidable, etc.) or Player-name Specific (derborgus3333) and can have either AND, OR, or NOT filter types by adding Lime, Light Blue, or Red dyes respectively. For instance, Paper named "Player" and lime dye plus Paper named "derborgus3333" with lime dye would only detect entities who are type: Player and are named "derborgus3333"

I may post more textures later.

Minecraft Wind


Wind Command:


Command:
/wind <Strength> <Direction> [Seconds]

Wind Strengths:
-0 / S / Still. (no wind whatsoever)
-1 / L / Light.
-2 / M / Moderate.
-3 / H / Heavy. (more common in the Deep Ocean biome, Ice Spikes biome, and above an elevation of Y-100)
-4 / E / Extreme. (this wind can push sand/gravel blocks, mobs, and players to an extent which can be fought a little, however this is only obtainable threw commands, which is solely for map makers)

Wind Directions:
-N / North
-W / West
-E / East
-S / South


Wind conditions:


-For wind to be present in an area, there has to be nothing above it, much like how rain and beacons work. This is so we don't end up with wind underground or in the Nether... or in your lovely house you've built.
-Wind can last up to 15-30 minutes before changing direction, and up to 10-20 minutes before changing strength.
-Heavy Wind is more common in deep ocean biomes and above an elevation of Y-100.
-The default wind strength is Light Winds, from there is has the option of turning into Still Winds or Moderate Winds. Only Heavy Winds can be formed from Moderate Winds making heavy winds more rare.
-Heavy Wind is at a higher chance if it is storming.
-air blocks would have to be 3 blocks in distance in all directions horizontally from a solid block on its horizontal grid for wind to occur.


Effects of Wind:


-Wind will only be heard at strong winds (There is also an option to alter the volume in the settings).
-Clouds will move faster depending on wind strength, and they will no longer only move in just one direction, for that will be determined by the direction of the wind now (North, West, East, South).
-Sand blocks will occasionally give off gain particles in the direction the wind is blowing.
-Sand blocks will not be effected if
there is Still Winds.
-Sand storms will be present if the player is in a dessert while the wind strength is heavy. This will result in a sandy fog around the player hindering the players visibility to 15 blocks in distance.
-Blizzards will be present if the player is in a snowy biome while the wind strength is heavy. This will result in a snowy fog around the player hindering the players visibility to 15 blocks in distance.
-Leaf blocks will sway in the wind, depending on wind direction and strength.
-When within ear-range of leaf block, you will hear a slight rustle of the leaves which will be louder and louder the stronger the wind is. This is not intended to be ear rape and will not be too loud but rather a light Aesthetic ambiance.
-Leaf particles will occasionally fall from leaves in the direction of the wind, and will be more frequent as the wind gets stronger and less so as the wind gets lighter.
-Leaf blocks will not be effected if there is Still Winds.
-Tall Grass, Double Tall grass, and Crops will sway in the wind, depending on wind direction and strength.
-When within ear-range of Tall Grass and Double Tall grass, you will hear a slight rustle of the Tall Grass, Double Tall grass, and Crops which will be louder and louder the stronger the wind is. This is not intended to be ear rape and will not be too loud but rather a light Aesthetic ambiance.
Example:
-Projectiles such as arrows will be redirected slightly depending on wind strength and direction when projected farther then 15 blocks of distance, making arrows less OP for PVP.
-rain and snow downfall will be slanted depending on wind strength and direction.

Water waves:
There are 4 types of waves which vary in hight and length depending on the strength of the wind, which can head North, South, East, or west, depending on the direction of the wind.
Here is a 2D diagram of the types of waves:

-The Black outlined squares represent the size of a block in Minecraft.
-The Dark Blue squares represent water.
-The Light Blue squares represent air.
-The Bars on the top represent wave length.
-The Bars on the right represent wave hight.
-The Green waves represent Light Wind conditions.
-The Yellow waves represent Moderate Wind conditions.
-The Red Waves represent Heavy Wind conditions.
-The Purple waves represent Extreme Wind conditions. (only obtainable by command)

-The Waves will head in the direction of the Wind.
-The Waves will move at a fair speed.
-The Waves will push the player to a certain extent depending on the type of wave (obviously if it's going to be a bigger wave, it's going to push you more).
-Extreme Waves may break boats (but don't worry they don't naturally occur without commands).

But first! certain conditions must be met before waves can occur. Waves can only occur when there is enough room for them to do so. Here is a birds eye view diagram of what I mean:

-The outlined squares represent the size of an area a block in Minecraft would have
-The Blue squares represent water,
-The Green Squares represent a solid block (lets just say land).

-Waves cannot be in the squares with red "X"s in them.
-Waves will form or dissipate depending on wave direction in the squares with the yellow neutral points in them (These exist so we don't end up with rising and falling walls of water which look ugly, that and so we get a better smooth transitioning).
-Waves are allowed in the squares with the green check-points in them.
-All waves make noise
-Lilly-pads will be effected by going up and down with waves, though you may still stand on them.
-Bigger waves will dissipate in the form of crashing title waves, which will have white particles representing splashing.
-Smaller Waves will dissipate by simply merging in.
Here is an example of what dissipating waves will look and sound like:



Extra Possible implementations:


-A Sail for boats to take advantage of the wind:
(Could be dyed different colours because leather's known for that sort of thing. Could be put on a boat, like how you put horse armour on a horse.)



-A Paddle so you can fight the waves:
(Paddles have good durability... I say good because some seas are vast)



-An Anchor so boats won't be pushed by waves:
(Anchors can be decorations which fall like anvils. could be put on a boat, like how you put horse armour on a horse. you can stil be pushed by waves, but only a small distance from where the anchors landed, from then you'll stop)

1) dragons
2)new dimension(maybe sky lands or twilight forest)
3)horse chariot
4)more bad mobs
5)in game voice chat
6)Ability to change username
7)more affects(temp deafness from explosions)
8)Bed colors match wool and wood colors
9)A new weapon
10)100+ more music
11)more heads(cow, pig, etc... but found in chest not from killing)
12)More enchantments
13)3 stage tree groth(sapling, small tree(gives you sticks), and full grown)
14)more food options(cactus fruit, glow bugs(underground cave systems), pears)
15)generated underground portals in odd shapes(transports you to nether fortress(1 way portal))
16)flowers that are used for more then dye
17)2 saddles in crafting table to make two seats on a horse/dragon
18) dragon eggs(take 10 nights to hatch)
19) lead sheep towards dragon for food to tame him
20)dragons attack livestock
21) built in mod installer like the texture packs

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"So, I was mining today and stumbled upon beautiful natural glowing crystals in an underground ravine!"


"...Then I investigated a red glow I could see creeping through a tunnel shaft and found myself in the middle of a zombie hive! o__O"



Well, those are some of the things we could be saying if colored glass and colored light were added to MC!
(images above are not real screenshots. They were Photoshopped by me to show what MC could be like if this topic's proposals were implemented)

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[NOTE]Colored light and glass is something I believe all minecrafters should be able to enjoy with each other without the midleman or knowledge of mod installing. So for that reason, this suggestion is directed towards vanilla. We do however welcome mods here since it's said that "Colored light isn't possible." -_^

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Here is how it could work:

Color Glass Blocks & Changing The Color of Light


Colored Glass and Colored Light are features I have wanted to see in Minecraft for some time. I wanted to see these features implemented so bad that I have come up with some ways it could be used in the game; it would greatly increase building potential and the ability for a player to customize an atmosphere by modifying the color of light. Based on my knowledge working in the game industry as an indiegame digital artist, I know that the impact something like colored glass and light would have on minecraft would be more important than most people know. In fact, it may even be safe to say that even Mojang underestimates the aesthetic importance of colored light and being able to manipulate it.
Here is a little diagram that briefly explains my proposition:





Here is a colored light mod that CptSpaceToster in a video spotlight! check it out! (ehem you too mojang -_^) colored light IS possible and it IS necessary this video shows that:



Here is a different crafting recipe that was originally suggested by ChadGarion25. It is fantastic and gives cauldrons an actual use.



Tell me what you guys think

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Cool Ideas by you guys -_^:

UPDATE MAY 31 2013: It has been a very long time since i last revisted this post, and everynow and then I receive emails about a new post, for the time being i think that this post i have here covers enough that i dont need to add anything to it, but it i see an amazing comment pop up in my emails i will most likely come back and add it.


Introduction:
The villagers in minecraft have a very boring life, they sit around waiting for someone who may or may not exist to come and trade with them, ignoring all the other npc's in the world. What if they could do war on eachother and their jobs actually meant something? Read more to find out!

If anyone wants to make a mod out of this, let me know.



UPDATE - (this was taken from the Wiki)
Improved villages and villagers to make them more self-aware^[39]

• You can now restore a desolate village or create a completely new village^[40]
• Villagers can now like and dislike you^[41]
• Villagers who dislike you will refuse to trade
• Villagers will dislike you more for killing their friends or allowing them to die
• Depending on how much villagers like you, they will start to offer you better trades^[42]
• Trades may be made permanent again or last shorter/longer

Nice to see villagers getting some love

Just remember, Not everything here needs to be implemented if anything does. So stop whining about it being too complicated.

Table of Contents:

1. NPC Interface
2. NPC hunger and health
3. Emotion
4. Reputation
5. Trading
6. Factions
7. Leadership
8. Villages and Castles
9. Currency
10. Traders
11. Abandoned Villages
12. Families and names
13. Repopulating abandoned villages
14. Jobs
15. Buildings
16. Combat
17. Morale/Military Strength
18. Village Spawning System
19. Races + Religions
20. New Items
(The following two items are 2 other peoples suggestions, used with permission)
21. Quests
22. Village Generation Fixes


NPC interface:


NPC Hunger and Health:

Emotion:

Reputation:


Trading:

Factions:

Leadership:


Villages, Castles and Capitals:

Currency:

Traders:


Abandoned Villages:

When you kill too many people or break too much stuff the whole village will turn hostile.

I know it isn't really an original idea, but i think i can make it unique this time.
Sure you will be able to find empty villages and loot them, but now with the new NPC mechanics that would be added, you will be able to turn a thriving castle into a ghost town. There would be requirements for how you force a group of NPCs to abandon their village. Here are some i thought up:

Village
Destroy 20+ Blocks in the wooden walls around the village (only if upgraded)
Destroy 5+ Blocks in every building
Kill a minimum of 5 villagers (for small town) or 10 villagers (large town)
Kill the leader (counts as a villager)
Stomp out 4 farm-ground at every garden
Take 10 Wheat from every garden
Take at least 1 item from the blacksmiths chest
OR
Kill every single villager.

Castle
Kill King - Civilians run in fear and some leave town until they join another village
Destroy 50 blocks from the outer wall
Destroy 10 blocks from every house
Kill a minimum of 15 villagers
Kill a minimum of 2 iron golems
Steal 3 items from blacksmiths chest
OR
Kill every villager AND every single golem
All other village requirements apply to this.
The same requirements here apply to other NPC's villages fighting eachother, They will try to accomplish these goals.

You would also be able to retake a village. This can be done by advising your castles king to increase the size of his kingdom. He will send villagers to fix the damage and repopulate. There will be no leader in villages taken over by Kings. You will have to find the village that the king lives in to do this.
The best method to take over a castle/village is to place some tnt near some buildings and near the walls, then you kill the leader, set off the tnt and kill anything left fighting, many villagers will get scared and run away if so much gets destroyed so fast, especially when their leader dies.
Families and names:

Repopulation for abandoned viillages:

Jobs:

Buildings:

Combat:

Morale/Military Strength:
Village Spawning system:
Races:
New items:

Quests:
Village Generation Fixes


Changelog:
If you liked this idea please press the green arrow in the bottom right!
I hope you like my idea, please support it and vote whether you want it or not!

Here is some banners to show your support!

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Special thanks to Shrapos for helping me with this idea (IRL friend)
Thanks to:
F117nighthawkX - Suggested the Dynamic villagers game mode
arsonwelles - suggested .txt file for villager names
dannybar9 - suggested dynamic prices based on resources, hunger and health
Strottinglemon - suggested to make enemy factions gain rep when you kill opposing faction members
nate890 - Let me put his Quests suggestion in here.
kazar14 - the second banner
JP585 - the Extra Stuff, which contains lots of village fixes.