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Oct 1, 2013themariofireball posted a message on My single player servers aren't working! Please help!How the hell do you make a singleplayer server?Posted in: Java Edition Support
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Dec 6, 2010simo_415 posted a message on Single Player Commands [V4.9] - Official Download [SPC] [+NoClip]Posted in: Minecraft ModsSingle Player Commands (SPC)Version 4.9 for Minecraft 1.6.2
If you're looking for a server, or need to contact me, currently the best place is through this PvP survival server: pvp.darkmines.net.
Download Automated Installation [COMING SOON]
for a video tutorial on how to use the installer
Download Manual Installation [Preferred] - [Alternate]
NEW INSTALL INSTRUCTIONS - CLICK HERE
Item and Block codes
For Minecraft 1.6.2 - Download Here
Big thanks to q3hardcore for many of the new features
/killall and /butcher now work
Compatability with Mod Loader, PlayerAPI and Forge
The current SPC installer is broken, a new one is being worked on which will be out in a few weeks (hopefully)
New installation instructions, below.
Many other things
How to install (Minecraft 1.6.2)
1. Close Minecraft launcher (if open)
2. Navigate to where minecraft is installed (eg: on Windows %appdata%/.minecraft)
3. Go to versions and copy the 1.6.2 directory and name it something else (eg: 1.6.2.mods). Alternatively, if you have done this for another mod already backup the Minecraft JAR.
4. Open the jar file (using an archive utility, such as 7zip) in the mod directory you created (eg: 1.6.2.jar) and copy all of the files into it except for WorldEdit.jar
5. Delete the files in the META-INF directory except for MANIFEST.MF
6. Close the jar file
7. Copy WorldEdit.jar into .minecraft/bin
8. Rename the jar file to the same name as the directory (eg: 1.6.2.mods.jar)
9. Rename the json file to the same name as the directory (eg: 1.6.2.mods.json)
10. Open the json file in a text editor and the line that contains the id (eg: "id": "1.6.2") change it to the same name as the directory (eg: "id": "1.6.2.mods")
11. Save and close the json file.
12. Start up the Minecraft launcher
13. Create a new profile
14. Select the version that you just created (eg: 1.6.2.mods)
15. Select the rest of your settings.
16. Launch the game.
Note: Using a 3rd party launcher such as Magic Launcher may save you a lot of time in managing mods.
Code is open source at: https://github.com/simo415/spc
For more information on commands use /help in game or visit http://youtube.com/user/spcmod
Periodically I will put up a picture and video which I think are good representations as to what Single Player Commands is capable of. If you would like to get your picture or video featured here please send me a link (via PM or post) and if I like them they will get featured.
Note: Videos should focus on SPC and can be any length (preferably at least 30 seconds)
Stuck on a command, confused or just looking for something new? Check out http://www.youtube.com/user/spcmod for a simple demo of most of the commands this mod provides.
To bring up the command "console" type 'T' then type in the command. Below is a brief run through of the command list:
ADMIN: Due to the number of youtube links here, this content has been removed.
For a list of WorldEdit commands please visit the WorldEdit wiki page: http://wiki.sk89q.co...dEdit/Reference
//limit - Set a maximum number of blocks to change at most for all operations. This only affects yourself. Use this to prevent catastrophic accidents. This command will not override the limit in the configuration if it is set.
//brush clipboard - Switch to the clipboard tool.
//brush cylinder [-h] [height] - Switch to the cylinder brush tool.
//brush smooth [iterations] - Smooth the region.
//brush sphere [-h] - Switch to the sphere brush tool.
//mask - Clear the mask
//mask - Set a mask
//mat - Change the material used by your current brush.
//size - Change the size of the current brushes
//chunkinfo - Get the filename of the chunk that you are in.
//delchunks - Generate a shell script to delete chunks.
//listchunks - Print a list of used chunks.
//clearclipboard - Clear your clipboard.
//copy - Copies the currently selected region. Be aware that it stores your position relative to the selection when copying.
//cut - Cuts the currently selected region.
//flip [dir] - Flip the clipboard.
//load - Load .schematic into clipboard.
//paste [-ao] - Pastes the clipboard.
//rotate - Rotate the clipboard.
//save - Save clipboard to .schematic.
//search - Search for an item by its name.
//worldedit reload - Reloads WorldEdit's configuration.
//worldedit tz - Set your timezone. This is temporary.
//worldedit version - Gets WorldEdit's version.
//cyl [height] - Create a vertical cylinder.
//forestgen [type] [density] - Make a forest.
//hcyl [height] - Create a vertical hollow cylinder.
//hsphere [raised?] - Create a hollow sphere.
//pumpkins - Make a pumpkin forest
//sphere [raised?] - Create a sphere.
//ascend - Go up one level.
//ceil [clearance] - Get to the ceiling.
//descend – Go down one level.
//jumpto - Jump to the block that you are looking at.
//thru - Go through the wall that you are looking at.
//unstuck - Go up to the first free spot.
//up [distance] - Go up some distance.
//clearhistory - Clear your history.
//redo [number of steps] - Redo your last (undo) action. This command replays back history and does not repeat the command.
//undo [number of steps (default – last)] - Undo your last action.
//move [count] [direction] [leave-id] - Move the selection's contents. A block can be specified to fill in the left over area.
//overlay - Place a block on top of blocks inside the region.
//outline - Build walls, floor, and ceiling.
//regen - Regenerate the selection region.
//replace - Replace all non-air blocks blocks inside the region.
//replace - Replace all blocks of the specified block(s) with another block inside the region.
//set - Set all blocks inside the selection region to a specified block.
//smooth [iterations] - Smooth the selection's heightmap.
//stack [count] [direction] - Stacks the selection.
//walls - Build the walls of the region (not including ceiling and floor).
Apr 19, 2013Blocksmithed posted a message on [Hybrid] (v18) (100+ Animations!) Blocksmith Hybrid Animated Default: Default Textures Given Life.Posted in: Resource PacksMuito obrigado para MpSlx (http://steamcommunity.com/id/mpslx) pela tradução!
Quando a snapshot 13w02a lançou com o novo sistema de texturas eu fiquei muito exitado. Eu finalmente poderia deixar o minecraft do modo que eu queria.O objetivo deste pacote é animar todas as texturas, porém com razão (Mais de 100 animações até agora!), e também adicionar alguns detalhes, que não existiam por falta de pixels, como as ferramenta na mesa de trabalho, e os riscos no vidro (As texturas com mais detalhes são 32x).Eu sei que outros pacotes se denominam "Híbridos" porém eu não vi nenhum misturando resoluções. Modificando a resolução dependendo da necessidade da animação, eu consegui deixar uma animação bonita e mantendo o pacote leve.Eu estou trabalhando nisso por mais de três meses.Gostaria de obter sugestões de todos sobre o que poderia ser acrescentado ou melhorado. Aqui estão alguns screenshots e alguns gifs para dar uma idéia do que tudo parece. Alguns dos meus favoritos são a tocha, o jukebox ou registro player, e os minérios.
Você não pode ver as animações nelas.O vidro de conexãoAqui estão algumas animações, não todas!Blocos Animados
Exemplo de um mob piscando!
Videos Análises e Jogatinas
Instalação Não sabe como utilizar?
- Depois de baixar, coloque na pasta texture packs. Se você não sabe onde fica, procure no Google, e você vai achar vários tutoriais. Tenha certeza que você está com o jogo na versão 1.5 ou maior.
- Instale o Optifine ou MCPatcher e siga as instruções em seus determinados posts. Isto irá ativar as texturas conectadas (CTM), mobs randômicos, e as animações de piscar, e o interior da Ender Chest. Se você utiliza optifine, tenha certeza de que você ligou as texturas conectadas em video>settings>quality.
Download para minecraft 1.14.x
Se você deseja deixa um comentário, mas não sabe inglês, você pode utilizar o Google Tradutor ou qualquer outro programa que traduza para o inglês. Se você não possui uma conta aqui, você pode também, comentar no meu vídeo no YouTube!
Termos Leia isto antes de tudo!
Usar este pacote em vídeos ou em outros meios porém com um link para este site.
Editar, remover, modificar e adicionar coisas ao pacote, porém para uso pessoal, sem destribuição pública.
Você não deve:
Destribuir este pacote sem seus determinados créditos/link para este site.
Utilizar qualquer uma das texturas deste pacoro para a criação de outro.
Com a exeção de:
Permissão exclusiva (Blocksmithed).Texturas originais pertencem á Mojang.
Se você usar isto em um vídeo no youtube, por favor, inclua um link para esta postagem!
Traduit par GreenLenux
Quand la snapshot 13w02a est sortie avec son nouveau système de pack de textures pour Minecraft 1.5, j'étais super excité. Je pouvais enfin faire ressembler Minecraft comme je le voulais. Le but de ce pack est de tout animer (plus de 100 animations), et d'ajouter des détails là où le pack de défaut n'avait pas assez de pixels comme les outils sur l'atelier et les lignes sur les vitres (les textures avec des détails sont 32 fois plus grandes). Je sais que certains packs de textures se prénomment eux même "hybrids" mais je n'ai jamais vu le concept de mixer différentes résolutions. En changeant les résolutions en concordance avec ce dont l'animation avait besoin, j'étais capable de rendre les animations plus fluides tout en gardant un semblant de même taille.
MpSlx (http://steamcommunity.com/id/mpslx) Traduction portugaise
Personnes qui m'ont donné des idées (incomplet)
J'aimerai avoir des suggestions de la part de tout le monde sur ce qui pourrait être ajouté ou amélioré. Les critiques constructives sont toujours les bienvenues. Voici quelques screenshots et quelques gifs pour vous donner un aperçu du pack. Mes textures préférées sont le pufferfish, le Jukebox/lecteur de musiques, et les minerais.
Notez que j'ai « gifé » seulement quelques textures car c'est horrible à faire. Ce n'est que quelques exemples. Aussi, les animations vont vous paraître plus fluides en jeu car le timing est compliqué à réaliser en gif. Certaines animations ne sont d'ailleurs plus présentes dans le pack.
Et le villageois (un des mobs qui cligne des yeux)
Il y a plein d'autres vidéos de présentation de mon pack sur youtube. J'aimerai tous les remercier. Vous pouvez en trouver plus ici.
1. Télécharger le fichier .zip depuis le lien de téléchargement, et suivre ces instructions.
2. (Semi-optionel, mais cette étape est obligatoire pour activer certaines options) Télécharger MCPatcher et patcher votre minecraft (les instructions d’installations sont dans le lien). Cela activera les textures connectées (CTM), les mobs randoms, et les animations sur les entités comme les mobs qui clignent des yeux et l'enderchest.Optifine peut seulement utiliser les textures connectées les mobs randoms.
Merci d'avoir lu et, j'espère, d'avoir essayé le texture pack !
Téléchargement (Pour Minecraft 1.14)
J'ai aussi un topic PMC ici. Si vous n'avez pas de compte minecraftforum, vous pourrez commenter sur PMC ou sur la vidéo Youtube.
When snapshot 13w02a came out with the new texture pack system for minecraft 1.5, I was so excited. I could finally make Minecraft look how I wanted it to. The goal of this pack is to animate everything within reason (over 100 animations so far!), and add detail where the defaults didn't have enough pixels like the tools on the crafting bench and lines in glass (the textures with added detail are 32x). I know some other packs call themselves "hybrids" but I haven't seen this concept of mixing and matching resolutions done before. By changing the resolutions in accordance with the need of the animation, I was able to make the animations smoother while keeping the overall size of the pack down.
Here is a complete change log.
ChangesTools on the workbench look like tools
Gold ore sparkles
Diamond ore sparkles
Redstone ore pulsates with power
Emerald ore sparkles
Diamond item sparkles
Emerald item sparkles
TNT fuse is more detailed and sparks on the end
Streaks in glass have finer lines
Lit furnace has fire animation
Bottles in the brewing stand fill up
Sign item's text gets written
Water bucket drips
Lava bucket drips and also the lava in it flows
Milk bucket drips
Cobblestone looks nicer
Wheat sways in the wind
Redstone lamp pulses
Tall grass sways
Minecart wheels are better
Note block really rocks out that beat
Jukebox has a spinning record on top
Water is slightly clearer
Beacon has a pulsing effect
Tipped book shelf books look better
Powered rail moves
Diamond block has a shiny effect
Gold block has a shiny effect
Emerald block has a shiny effect
Torch has fire on it
Redstone torch pulsates
Lines in ice are more detailed
Slime ball drips
Eye of ender blinks
Lit repeater has current running through it
Redstone block pulsates
Raw fish flaps it's tail
Cooked fish has X's for eyes and twitches
Rotten flesh has flies that fly around on it
Soul sand faces open and close their mouths
Oak, birch, jungle, and spruce leaves sway
Egg starts to hatch
Redstone item pulses
Glowstone item pulses
Lights on the command block change colors
Lit comparator has pulse that runs through it
Iron ingot has shiny effect
Gold ingot has shiny effect
End portal block (with eye in it) blinks
Slightly more transparent overlay when wearing a pumpkin
Enchanting table diamond corners have a shiny effect
Nether star spins
Lit activator rail pulses
Arrow in drawn bow has feathers
Shears open and close
Blaze powder burns
Blaze rod is... animated
Mushroom stew drips
Fireworks rocket fuses sparks
Diamond sword shines
Diamond pickaxe shines
Diamond axe shines
Diamond shovel shines
Diamond hoe shines
Gold nugget shines
Iron sword shines
Gold sword shines
Golden carrot shines
Glistering melon "glisters?"
Fern sways back and forth
Lily pad ripples
Potato crops sway
Carrot crops sway
Baked potato emits smoke/steam
Most 1 block high flowers sway
Animated puffer fish
Animated raw salmon and raw clownfish
Animated double high grass
The following features only work for MCPatcher/Optifine users:
Enderchest has a swirling portal in it and it's eye blinks
You can make the TARDIS from Dr. Who out of /give 5 1 5 (Wood planks with a damage value of 5. Removed in 1.6c)
Squids roll eyes
Players using a unedited Steve skin blink
Blaze's spinning rods have a low tech blazy animation
Creeper painting just got creepier
Iron golems blink
Creeper eyes pulse red
Enderman eyes pulse a darker purple
Some cobwebs have small spiders in them
Fire particles are animated
Villager's cloud w/ lightning particle is animated
Some random zombie skins
The minecraft logo on the minecraft main screen is animated
Grass has some random CTM
Cobble has some random CTM
Stone has some random CTM
Quartz blocks connect
Endermen have a slender-ish b&w fade out animation
Added slender notes to roofed forests
Many thanks to these people:Credits:
MpSlx (http://steamcommunity.com/id/mpslx) Made the Portuguese translation
GreenLenux Made the French translation. He also has created some horror maps: 1 2 3
People who have given me ideas: (incomplete)
I'd love to get suggestions from everyone on what could be added or improved. Constructive criticism is always welcome. Here are some screenshots and a few gifs to give the general concept. Some of my favorites are the pufferfish, the jukebox/record player, and the ores.
ScreenshotsI know these don't show animations but oh well.A few of the mob variationsThe connecting glassThe slight edit on cobble and random CTM. Although subtle, I think it helps make cobble more bearable.
GifsPlease note I gif-ified only some of the textures because they are a pain to make. This isn't nearly all of them. Also they will look much better in game because the timings are hard to get right on a gif. Some are also outdated.Blocks:
And the villager (one of the mobs that blinks)
There are many other videos/showcases/reviews on youtube. I'd like to thank all of them. You can find most here.
1. Download the .zip file from the download link below, and follow these instructions.
2. (Semi-optional, but this step is required to enable some features) If available for your minecraft version, download MCPatcher and patch your minecraft (installation instructions are in the link). This will enable connected textures (CTM), random mobs, and animations on entities like blinking mobs and the enderchest. Optifine is a partial alternative, but it only has very basic support for connected textures and random mobs.
Thanks for reading this and hopefully trying it out! Enjoy.
- Ad free links and older versions available under "Version History/Alternate download links."
I also have a post here on PMC. If you don't have a minecraftforum account, feel free to comment there or on the YouTube video.
Version History/Alternate download linksVersions for Minecraft 1.13.x - 1.14.x
Version 18 (Same as v17e but updated to be compatible with 1.13)
Versions for Minecraft 1.11.x
Version 17e (Same as v17d but updated to be compatible with 1.11)
Versions for Minecraft 1.9.x - 1.10.x:
Version 17d (Same as v17c but updated to be compatible with 1.9)
Versions for Minecraft 1.6 through 1.8.x:
Version 17c (Updated for 1.8, notable new/redone animations include leaves, fish, ghast, and double tallgrass.)
Version 1.6c (Animates all the new flowers, fixes the cauldron glitch, the dark oak plank glitch, and removes broken formatting in the description.)
Version 1.6b (Adds more random mobs, more random CTM, more animations and improvements to existing animations.)
Version 1.5 (Same as v1.5, but in resource pack format for 1.6)
Versions for Minecraft 1.5.x:
Version 1.6b for 1.5.2 (May be incomplete. Adds more random mobs, more random CTM, more animations and improvements to existing animations.)
Version 1.5 (Adds dripping netherack, connecting glass panes, animated lilypads, carrots, and potatoes. Ores are also redone.)
Version 1.4 (Makes more of the vegetation sway and more mob eyes animated. Also improved some things.)
Version 1.3 (Add shiny tools and a few other animations.)
Version 1.2 (Adds blinking mobs, and animated enderchest and blaze.)
Version 1.1 (First version to be posted here. Has better ores, wheat, and grass than 1.0. Also adds various animations.)
Version 1.0 (Oldest version. Less graphically intensive.)
How to remove or replace animations/textures1. Open the resource pack and find the texture you want to remove or replace. It will usually be under assets/minecraft/textures somewhere, but mob animations and connected textures are under assets/minecraft/mcpatcher.
2. Delete the .png and the .mcmeta (or .properties) file that has the same name. Minecraft will replace missing textures with the default texture.
3. If you want to replace the texture you just deleted, simply copy and paste the texture you want into the correct folder.
If you want to support this, leaving a comment really means a lot to me. If you really want to help this texture pack, you can set this code as your signature.
<a href="http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1778085-"><img src='http://i.imgur.com/IZV9lZq.gif' /></a>
It is the one you see as my signature below this post. If it doesn't work first try, click the "toggle editing mode" button on the top left of the signature editing screen and past the code again.
Also feel free to click that button. That always makes me happy.You may:
• Use this texture pack in youtube videos and/or other media, but please provide a link to my minecraftforum.net post: http://www.minecraft.../topic/1778085- or http://www.bit.ly/blocksmith
• Edit any part of this pack for your personal use, just don't distribute it.
• Use this pack as your server's resource pack, or use parts of it in your server's resource pack as long as you give me credit.
• Post/share any of the download links on the forum post, just link to the forum post as well.
You may not:
• Distribute this pack or any part of it with a link other than one of mine. (Except as stated above)
• Use any of these textures in another resource pack or remix pack.
With the exception of:
• Exclusive permission from me, blocksmithed (http://www.minecraft...2-blocksmithed/).
• Please don't post a direct download link. Instead use a bit.ly one from under "Version History/Alternate download links." They work just as well, and anyone can track download stats by adding a "+" after the bitly url.
Original Minecraft textures belong to Mojang.
If you use this for YouTube please provide a link to this thread. Thanks!
Apr 8, 2011sp614x posted a message on OptiFine HD (FPS Boost, Dynamic Lights, Shaders and much more)Posted in: Minecraft Mods
This mod adds support for HD textures and a lot of options for better looks and performance.
Doubling the FPS is common.
Get the Magic Launcher for easy mod installation, compatibility checking and more.
Donate to OptiFine and receive the OptiFine cape as a sign of your awesomeness.
The cape is visible to everyone using OptiFine. Thank you for being awsome.
Get all OptiFine versions here: optifine.net
- FPS boost (examples) - doubling the FPS is common - decreases lag spikes and smooths gameplay
- Support for HD Textures (info) - HD textures and HD fonts (MCPatcher not needed) - custom terrain and item textures - animated terrain and item textures - custom HD Font character widths - custom colors - custom block color palettes - custom lighting - unlimited texture size
- Support for Shaders (info) - based on the Shaders Mod by Karyonix
- Dynamic Lights - allows handheld and dropped light emitting items to illuminate the objects around them. It is similar, but not related to the Dynamic Lights mod
- Variable Render Distance (example) - from Tiny to Extreme (2 x Far) in 16m steps - sun, moon and stars are visible in Tiny and Short distance
- Configurable Smooth Lighting (examples) - from 1% - smooth lighting without shadows - to 100% - smooth lighting with full shadows
- Performance: VSync Synchronizes framerate with monitor refresh rate to remove split frames and smooth gameplay
- Smart Advanced OpenGL - more efficient, less artifacts - Fast - faster, some artifacts still visible - Fancy - slower, avoids visual artifacts
- Fog control - Fog: Fancy, Fast, OFF - Fog start: Near, Far
- Mipmaps (examples) - Visual effect which makes distant objects look better by smoothing the texture details - Mipmap level - OFF, 1, 2, 3, Max - Mipmap type - Nearest, Linear
- Anisotropic Filtering (examples) - Restores details in mipmapped textures - AF level - OFF, 2, 4, 8, 16 (depends on hardware support)
- Antialiasing (examples) - Smooths jagged lines and sharp color transitions - AA level - OFF, 2, 4, 6, 8, 12, 16 (depends on hardware support)
- Better Grass Fixes grass blocks side texture to match surrounding grass terrain
- Clear Water (examples) Clear, transparent water with good visibility underwater
- Custom Sky (info) Use custom textures for the day and night skies. Multiple layers, blending options, time configuration.
- Random Mobs Use random mob textures if available in the texture pack
- Connected Textures (examples) Connects textures for glass, glass panes, sandstone and bookshelf blocks which are next to each other.
- Natural Textures (examples, idea) Removes the gridlike pattern created by repeating blocks of the same type. Uses rotated and flipped variants of the base block texture.
- Faster Math Uses smaller lookup table which fits better in the L1 CPU cache
- FPS control - Smooth FPS - stabilizes FPS by flushing the graphics driver buffers (examples) - Smooth Input - fixes stuck keys, slow input and sound lag by setting correct thread priorities
- Chunk Loading Control - Load Far - loads the world chunks at distance Far, allows fast render distance switching - Preloaded Chunks - defines an area in which no new chunks will be loaded - Chunk Updates per Frame - allows for faster world loading - Dynamic Updates - loads more chunks per frame when the player is standing still
- Configurable Details - Clouds - Default, Fast, Fancy - Cloud Height - from 0% to 100% - Trees - Default, Fast, Fancy - Grass - Default, Fast, Fancy - Water - Default, Fast, Fancy - Rain and Snow - Default, Fast, Fancy - Sky - ON, OFF - Stars - ON, OFF - Sun & Moon - ON, OFF - Depth Fog - ON, OFF - Weather - ON, OFF - Swamp Colors - ON, OFF - Smooth Biomes - ON, OFF - Custom Fonts - ON, OFF - Custom Colors - ON, OFF - Show Capes - ON, OFF (supports HD capes)
- Configurable animations - Water Animated - OFF, Dynamic, ON - Lava Animated - OFF, Dynamic, ON - Fire Animated - OFF, ON - Portal Animated - OFF, ON - Redstone Animated - OFF, ON - Explosion Animated - OFF, ON - Flame Animated - OFF, ON - Smoke Animated - OFF, ON - Void Particles - OFF, ON - Water Particles - OFF, ON - Rain Splash - OFF, ON - Portal Particles - OFF, ON - Dripping Water/Lava - OFF, ON - Terrain Animated - OFF, ON - Items Animated - OFF, ON
- Fast Texturepack Switching Switch the current Texturepack without leaving the world
- Fullscreen Resolution Configurable fullscreen resolution
- Debug - Fast Debug Info - removes lagometer from debug screen - Debug Profiler - removes profiler from debug screen
- Time Control Default, Day Only or Night Only - works in only in Creative mode
- Autosave - Configurable Autosave interval - A fix for the famous Lag Spike of Death
Even Older VersionsEven older versions of OptiFine are available in the OptiFine history.
If you have previously used MCPatcher for HD Textures, HD Fonts or Better Grass (important)Follow these steps to prevent a possible "Black Screen" problem when installing OptiFine:
1. Temporarily revert back to the Default Texture Pack.
2. Uninstall the HD Textures, HD Fonts, and Better Grass mods from the MCPatcher. These functions are included in OptiFine.
3. Set Graphics to Fancy
4. Install OptiFine and test with the Default Texture Pack to make sure everything is working.
5. Select your previous texture pack and graphics settings
6. Run Minecraft and enjoy
Compatibility with other modsWhen installing OptiFine together with other mods always make sure to install OptiFine last. The only exception are mods which are designed to be installed after OptiFine and say so in their install instructions.
If you need ModLoader: Install OptiFine AFTER ModLoader.
If you need Forge: Install OptiFine AFTER Forge.
MCPatcher is NOT needed for HD textures, HD fonts and BetterGrass, they are included in OptiFine. Install OptiFine without MCPatcher's HD features for best performance.
If you need DynamicLights (ModLoader edition): Install OptiFine AFTER DynamicLights.
Compatible with: ModLoader, Forge, SinglePlayerCommands, TooManyItems, PlasticCraft, CJB's Modpack, Zan's Minimap, Rei's Minimap, DynamicLights, GLSL Shaders 2, LittleBlocks and many other.
Not compatible with: CCTV, The Aether.
For Minecraft 1.6.2 and newerA. Simple (for OptiFine 1.6.2_C4 and newer)
- Double-click the downloaded JAR file and the OptiFine installer should start
- Click "Install" and OptiFine will be installed in the official Minecraft launcher with its own profile "OptiFine"
- Start the official launcher and play
- Use the official launcher to download and start once Minecraft 1.6.2.
- Double-click the downloaded JAR file and the OptiFine installer should start
- Click "Extract" and save the OptiFine MOD file
- Start Magic Launcher
- Click "Setup"
- Select Environment "1.6.2"
- Click "Add" -> select the OptiFine MOD file
- Click "OK"
- Login and play
- Use the official launcher to download and start once Minecraft 1.6.2.
- Go to the minecraft base folder (the official launchers shows it when you click "Edit Profile" as "Game Directory")
- Go in subfolder "Versions"
- Rename the folder "1.6.2" to "1.6.2_OptiFine"
- Go in the subfolder "1.6.2_OptiFine"
- Rename "1.6.2.jar" to "1.6.2_OptiFine.jar"
- Rename "1.6.2.json" to "1.6.2_OptiFine.json"
- Open the file "1.6.2_OptiFine.json" with a text editor and replace "id":"1.6.2" with "id":"1.6.2_OptiFine" and save the file
- Copy the files from the OptiFine ZIP file in "1.6.2_OptiFine.jar" as usual (you can use the 1.5.2 instructions for this) and remove the META-INF folder from "1.6.2_OptiFine.jar".
- Start the official launcher
- Click "Edit Profile" - Select "Use version:" -> "release 1.6.2_OptiFine"
- Click "Save Profile"
- Click "Play" or "Login" to start the game. If only "Play Offline" is available, then log out and log in again to fix it.
Installation for Minecraft 1.6.2 with Forge
- Use the official launcher to download and start once Minecraft 1.6.2.
- Use the Forge installer to install Forge
- Use the official launcher to start once Minecraft with the Forge profile.
- Start Magic Launcher
- Click "Setup"
- Select Environment "Forge9.10.X.Y"
- Click "Add" -> select the OptiFine ZIP file
- Click "Advanced"
- In the field "Parameters" add "-Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true"
- Click "OK"
- Login and play
B. Simple (for OptiFine 1.6.2_C4 and newer)
- Put the OptiFine JAR file in the Forge "mods" folder
- Start Minecraft and Forge should automatically load OptiFine
B. Complex (not working for Forge #780 and #781)
- Use the official launcher to download and start once Minecraft 1.6.2.
- Use the Forge installer to install Forge
- Go to the minecraft base folder (the official launchers shows it when you click "Edit Profile" as "Game Directory")
- Go in subfolder "Versions"
- Go in subfolder "Forge9.10.X.Y"
- Copy the files from the OptiFine ZIP file to "Forge9.10.X.Y.jar" as usual (you can use the 1.5.2 instructions for this) and remove the META-INF folder from "Forge9.10.X.Y.jar".
- Start the official launcher
- Select profile "Forge"
- Click "Edit Profile"
- Select the checkbox "JVM Arguments" and in the field next to it add "-Dfml.ignoreInvalidMinecraftCertificates=true -Dfml.ignorePatchDiscrepancies=true"
- Click "Save Profile"
- Click "Play" or "Login" to start the game. If only "Play Offline" is available, then log out and log in again to fix it.
For Minecraft up to 1.5.2If possible start with a clean minecraft.jar and check the mod compatibility section above.
A. Easy Installation
1. Download and start the Magic Launcher
2. Click Setup, click Add, select the downloaded zip file
3. Click OK, login and play Minecraft
B. Manual Installation
1. Locate your minecraft.jar file. On Windows, it's in %APPDATA%/.minecraft/bin
2. Create a backup of minecraft.jar
3. Open minecraft.jar in an archive editor (WinRar/7-Zip/etc)
4. Delete the META-INF folder.
5. Copy (drag and drop) the .class files from the downloaded zip file into the jar file, replacing previous files.
6. Run Minecraft and test!
1. Locate your minecraft.jar file. On Mac, it's in /Library/Application Support/minecraft/bin
2. Create a backup of minecraft.jar
3. Rename minecraft.jar to minecraft.zip and double-click it to extract the contents
4. Rename the resulting folder to minecraft.jar and open it
5. Copy the .class files from the downloaded zip into the minecraft.jar folder, replacing previous files
6. Run Minecraft and test!
Please test and report back, include CPU, GPU and FPS before/after. Feedback is always welcome.
CopyrightThe mod OptiFine is Copyright © 2013 by sp614x and the intellectual property of the author. It may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use as long as it remains in its unaltered, unedited form. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this mod on any other website or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited and a violation of copyright.
Nov 4, 2011Posted in: Minecraft Mods
Join my discord for the latest information: https://discord.gg/9xZuaA4
If you dont want to loose your items in 1.7 update to the latest 1.6.4 version first (released the same day as the 1.7 version)
Want to help model new bikes? Go to the AnimalBikes Modeling thread
Want to show your support? Buy me a drink
AnimalBikes Download alternative
- Requires Forge, download here
German download: here
This mod adds a bunch of animals, which you can ride or fly around on.
- Ender Dragon Bike
- Wither Bike
- Chinese Dragon Bike
- Iron Golem
- Reindeer Bike
- SnowGolem Bike
- Notch Bike
- Cow Bike
- Ender Bike
- Pig Bike
- Sheep Bike
- Spider Bike
- Chicken Bike
- Squid Bike
- Wolf Bike
- Creeper Bike
- Pony Bike
- Ghast Bike
- Dino Bike
- Bunny Bike
- Chocobo Bike
- Silverfish Bike
- Bat Bike
- Slime Bike
- Ocelot Bike
- Flower Bike
- Licensed under the Creative Commons BY-NC
- If you want to use it for a modpack, include a link to this thread
- People who do youtube videos on this mod, feel free to post them here
Special thanks to
- Failboat103 for helping me test and for his suggestions. Visit his Youtube Channel and thank him
- Verdana for letting me use his Mine Little Pony models
- skygirlrobincreeper for helping me test
- fauconpluton for the banners, the notch head, reindeer, dino and bunny model
- DjGyarados for one of the dino models
- LordCubyVI for one of the dino models
- superlegoguy27 for one of the dino models
- Eliwood407 and Boltman686 for the chocobo bike
- Cris Jon Stow for his banner
- LordCubyVI for helping with the snowgolem model
- BossNoodle for the chinese dragon model
- Trikksterr for the flower bike model
- Notch and Mojang for minecraft and all the animals ofcourse
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Mar 3, 2014Posted in: Minecraft Modswow, so amaze
[1.12.2] Version 0.6.0
[1.8.9] Version 0.5.3
[1.8] Version 0.5.3
[1.7.10] Version 0.5.3
[1.7.2] Version 0.5.2
[1.6.4] Version 0.5.2
[1.7.10] Version 0.5.2Changelog:
[1.7.10] Version 0.5.1
[1.7.2] Version 0.5.1
[1.6.4] Version 0.5.1
[1.7.10] Version 0.5.0
[1.7.2] Version 0.5.0
[1.6.4] Version 0.5.0
[1.6.4] Version 0.4.3-Fix
[1.7.2] Version 0.4.3
[1.7.10] Version 0.4.3
[1.6.4] Version 0.4.2
[1.7.2] Version 0.4.2
[1.6.4] Version 0.4.1
[1.7.2] Version 0.4.1
[1.6.4] Version 0.4
0.6.0 - Big internal changes for 1.12.2, launcher works better with enchantments.
0.5.2 - Made Shibes spawn in forests and plains, added a bunch more settings in the config file.
0.5.1 - Made doge armour and tools repairable with coins in anvil
Made automation possible by setting up input and output sides of the mining rig
Changed the name of the doge mob to Shibe
0.5.0 - Added the GPU and Mining Rig which can be used as an alternative way to get Dogecoins.
0.4.3 - Loads of internal changes, some small fixes and tweaks to damage. The doge launcher is now enchantable and some doge tool stat settings in config file.
0.4.2 - Fixed tail rotation in 1.7.2
0.4.1 - Fixed crash when running a server
This is my first mod and its all about doge!
More stuff will hopefully be added, not sure what yet so I'm open to suggestions!
- Full set of doge tools - double the power, half the durability of diamond
- Full set of doge armour - ditto
- Dogecoin - has the ability to turn any mob into a shibe
- Doge Launcher - fires dogecoins as a projectile
- GPU - mines blocks with a chance of getting doge
- Doge Block - nothing yet
- Mining Rig - uses the GPU to 'mine' doge, slower than manually mining but yields more doge
- Doge - 10x more health than a wolf
TERMS AND CONDITIONS
0. USED TERMS
MOD - modification, plugin, a piece of software that interfaces with the Minecraft client to extend, add, change or remove original capabilities.
MOJANG - Mojang AB
OWNER - mmdanggg2, Original author(s) of the MOD. Under the copyright terms accepted when purchasing Minecraft (http://www.minecraft.net/copyright.jsp) the OWNER has full rights over their MOD despite use of MOJANG code.
USER - End user of the mod, person installing the mod.
THIS MOD IS PROVIDED 'AS IS' WITH NO WARRANTIES, IMPLIED OR OTHERWISE. THE OWNER OF THIS MOD TAKES NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANY DAMAGES INCURRED FROM THE USE OF THIS MOD. THIS MOD ALTERS FUNDAMENTAL PARTS OF THE MINECRAFT GAME, PARTS OF MINECRAFT MAY NOT WORK WITH THIS MOD INSTALLED. ALL DAMAGES CAUSED FROM THE USE OR MISUSE OF THIS MOD FALL ON THE USER.
Use of this MOD to be installed, manually or automatically, is given to the USER without restriction.
This MOD may only be distributed where uploaded, mirrored, or otherwise linked to by the OWNER solely. All mirrors of this mod must have advance written permission from the OWNER. ANY attempts to make money off of this MOD (selling, selling modified versions, adfly, sharecash, etc.) are STRICTLY FORBIDDEN, and the OWNER may claim damages or take other action to rectify the situation.
4. DERIVATIVE WORKS/MODIFICATION
This mod is provided freely and may be decompiled and modified for private use, either with a decompiler or a bytecode editor. Public distribution of modified versions of this MOD require advance written permission of the OWNER and may be subject to certain terms.
Donate some Ðoge? - DANGGG2z7sswjb76qbSCZpHhEJvRXN7oJe
Jun 8, 2012Posted in: Minecraft Mods
PixelmonThe Pokemon mod for Minecraft!
To find out more about this mod you can check out the Pixelmon website!
Pixelmon development is now at an end. However, the site will continue to run.
Submit bugs here on out issue tracker - Click me!
Pokemon is the intellectual property of GameFreak and is trademarked by Nintendo GameFreak and Creatures Inc.
Aug 8, 2013montoyo posted a message on Web Displays - Browse On the Internet in Minecraft!Posted in: Minecraft Mods
This thread is outdated. Check out WebDisplays 1.0 here!
I'm happy to show you today my new mod: Web Displays, which adds a Web Screen Block and more! So, what do you think this block will do? Well, when you place a few of those blocks (144 in fact) in a 16x9x1 surface shape, and you right-click it, a real web browser shows up. You can go on YouTube, watch some videos or listen to your favourites musics, watch the stream of your favourite streamer, shows the news in your server's lobby and everything in-game.
Latest version spotlight:
TheDiamondMinecart's cinema map showcase:
0.2 / 0.3 Showcases:
Dependencies: You NEED Minecraft Forge, which is available HERE.
New: You also need MCEF, which is available HERE.
For minecraft 1.7.10 client & server:
AGAIN: YOU NEED MCEF.
First, download the mod HERE. Then, place it in your mods folder.
When starting the launcher, don't forget to select the Forge profile!
For clients (= NOT servers) only: Non-windows user: you won't be able to see any screen. The mod is provided only to enable you to join servers using WebDisplays.
For modders: API (outdated, I think)
You can download the Web Displays API from here: http://montoyo.net/wd2.php?t=api&v=latest
Basically, you can do anything while it uses my API and while this API remains unmodified. You can redistribute my API with your mod once compiled and reobfuscated by MCP/Forge. You are no able to decompile and/or edit the mod, or use reflection to access some fields/methods from my mod or access private fields/methods of my API.
First, you need to craft some web screens blocks like this:
Then, build a little walll with them (minimum size: 2x2) and right click on the side where you want the screen to appear (check that you don't have any items in your hand). That's it, you created your screen. Shift-Right Click to change the URL. To click on a link/button, simply right-click it with nothing in the hand.
Ok, so you have a web browser in a block; now what about a web browser in an item? Here is the minePad: YAY!
Once you created it; you need to right-click a real screen (made out of web screens blocks) and you'll see what is shown on the screen but on your this tablet!
Peripherals are blocks that can be connected to a screen using the Wireless Linker:
You have to right click the screen first and then the peripheral with it. Note that peripherals can be wherever you want in the world, there is no distance from the screen limit. It just have to be in the same dimension.
Peripheral #1: The keyboard:
To type things in the web screen, you'll need the keyboard:
After linking it to a screen with the linker, just right-click it with nothing in the hand, type whatever you want, and press Escape when you have done.
Peripheral #2: The Computer Interface:
If you want to use ComputerCraft to interact with the screen, here is the computer interface:
After linking it to a screen using the linker, place a computer next to it. You can access its functions using peripheral.wrap("SIDE_OF_THE_INTERFACE")
To know which functions are available; you can watch my little tutorial here:
Peripheral #3: The Repeater:
This peripheral is a little bit special; it'll repeat what a real screen will show (called "source"), but on another screen (called "repeater).
Build two 16x9 screen (using web screens blocks). Turn on the source screen (right-click it with nothing in the hand). Then, select it by right-clicking it using the wireless linker. Once the source has been selected, click on the second screen using the linker. That's it
Peripheral #4: The Remote Controller:
Crafted like this:
The Remote Controller once linked to a screen will enable you to change the URL of its linked screen wherever you want; this might be usefull to make a screen control room and change the URL from far.
Servers:Have you already tought about drinking some virtual beer, eat virtual food with your friends while watching a stream?
I suggest you Virtual Barcraft: http://www.virtualbarcraft.com
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Common FAQ: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Q: It's says I need flash, or that Flash is not up-to-date.
A: Please download "Flash Player for other browser" from here. Select your operating system in Step 1, then select "FP xx for Opera and Chromium" (where xx can be any number) in Step 2, and then click "Download now" on the right. As well don't forget to install it.
Q: Where can I find my logs?
A: Minecraft logs can be found in the ForgeModLoader-client-0.log file that you can find in your %appdata%/.minecraft folder. You need to shut down minecraft to find this file!
Installer logs are generated in the WDI_x.y_Log.log file which is the same folder as the installer executable!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Other FAQ: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Q: Why is your mod only available on Windows?
A: I'm working on the Linux version. However I need an Apple computer to make it available for mac; and it's wayyyy to expensive for me.
Q: When I right click on the screen, nothing happens.
A: Check in the config file that the "create" option is set to false, or that the server you are playing on enables you to create web screens even if you are not OP. Else, there were a problem during the installation of the mod. Please send me your Minecraft log.
Q: I LAAAAAAAAG with your mod
A: Try a lower ppp (real Pixels Per minecraft Pixels) in your config file and check that anisotropicLevel is set to 0. You can increment update & render rates in your config file too.
Q: How can I change the home page of the the browser:
A: You can do all that stuff in your config file in the misc category.
Q: I don't want to allow players to craft screens (only OPs):
A: Check your config file.
Q: I want to put your mod in my mod pack:
A: Well, if it's a private server mod pack, be free. Else, please ask by sending me a PM.
A: GIVE ME THE MAC FIRST!
A: Coming very soon.
Q: Fullscreen YouTube videos doesn't work
A: Yes. No way to fix this bug.
- Laser Pointer (to click on screen)
- Now using MCEF.
- Goodbye Awesomium. Welcome ChromiumEmbeddedFramework (THANKS TheFurax). Hi 64 bits.
- No more installer required.
- Manual profile selection is now enabled by default
- Corrected typos
- Removed very old WD uninstaller
- Fixed keyboard crash bug
- Fixed non-dying flying screens
- Fixed ComputerCraft Interface not working
- Added a button to play YouTube videos in fullscreen
- Updated WebDisplays to 0.9
- Updated for Minecraft 1.7.10
- Now searches for a 32 bits Java in EVERY hard drives
- Added option to manually browse for a 32 bits JRE (ADVANCED USERS)
- Updated WebDisplays to 0.8
- Fixed Minecraft crashing when leaving the world if the installation failed
- Fixed the screen showing "Installation Failed" on non-windows OS.
- Updated for Minecraft 1.6.4
- Updated WebDisplay to 0.7
- Now uses the system's look & feel theme.
- Fixed keyboard breaking particles
- Now screens can be as large as you want, but not 1x1
- Added the "unload distance" parameter in the config: if this distance is reached, the screen is unloaded.
- Screen repeaters now deletes themself if their source was deleted.
- Added the "shutdown" function to shutdown the screen using ComputerCraft.
- Added the minePad.
- Updated WebDisplay to 0.6
- More debug infos in the log file
Web Displays 0.5b:
- Changed the "OMG, Installation failed" texture by "Installation failed; please read FAQ"
- Now loads the native in the WebDisplaysNatives folder
- Added the isScreenRepeater() function in the API.
- Now detects if the allocated Java memory is over 1 giga and if it's the case, it'll reduce it to 1 giga again because Java 32bits doesn't support more that 1 giga.
- Detects if the mod was already installed manually and removes it.
- Now extract the native in the WebDisplaysNatives folder.
- Installer now takes care about the game directory profile parameter.
Web Displays 0.5:
- Moved every blocks and items in a new creative tab
- Changed the harness of every block (now it'll be as hard as stone)
- Enabled repeated keys on keyboard
- Changed the internal texture format of the screen to GL_RGB, using less memory.
- Added domain black-list in the config file.
- Created an open-source API so that modders will be able to add things for my mod (untested)
- Added the remote controller
- Now detects if there are no http:// before the URL and adds it automatically
- Added the view distance parameter in the config file
- Updated Web Displays to 0.5
- Reduced the license agreement window size; so users with small screens can still click on I agree or I decline
- Wrapped the installer into an EXE file (asked by some users)
- Installers nows ask the user to select the Forge profile at the end of the installation.
Web Displays 0.4:
- Corrected a bug making the URL unchangeable
- Added ComputerCraft implementation
- Now uses the correct log channel.
- Updated WebDisplays to 0.4
- Added the Awesomium License agreement at startup
- Now extracts the Awesomium License into your .minecraft directory.
- Errors and infos are now in the same file name WDI_0.5_Log.log.
Web Displays v0.3:
- Removed the "installation failed" image if the installation succedded (in this case you'll see a "welcome" image)
- Fixed some keys not being usable in the keyboard
- Updated WebDisplays to 0.3
- Fixed the 32/64bits detection
- Now you'll need java 7 32bits !
Web Displays v0.2:
- Added keyboard & keyboard linker
- Added update/render rates that can be incremented to reduce lag
- If the mod runs in no-jawesomium mode, the screen will show an error message
- Fixed screen being invisible sometimes
- Fixed screen changing it's position when reloading the world
- Released for 1.5.2
- Updated JAwesomium to 0.2
- Updated WebDisplays to 0.2
- Now errors & infos goes in a log file
- Fixed crashing at launching
- Fixed installer not taking care of the selected minecraft directory.
Older versions:Web Displays 0.11 for Minecraft Client & Server 1.6.4: WebDisplays-0.11c.jar
Web Displays 0.11 for Minecraft Client & Server 1.7.2: WebDisplays-0.11b.jar
Starting from here, WebDisplays doesn't require MCEF.
Web Displays 0.10 for Minecraft Client & Server 1.7.10: WebDisplays-0.10.jar
Installer 0.12 for Web Displays 0.9 for Minecraft Client 1.7.10: WDI_0.12.exe
Web Displays 0.9 for Minecraft Server 1.7.10: WebDisplays-0.9.jar
Installer 0.10 for Web Displays 0.8 for Minecraft Client 1.7.10: WDI_0.10.exe
Web Displays 0.8 for Minecraft Server 1.7.10: WebDisplays-0.8.jar
Installer 0.9 for Web Displays 0.7 for Minecraft Client 1.6.4: WDI_0.9.exe
Web Displays 0.7 for Minecraft Server 1.6.4: WebDisplays-0.7.zip
Installer 0.8 for Web Displays 0.6 for Minecraft Client 1.6.2: WDI_0.8.exe
Web Displays 0.6 for Minecraft Server 1.6.2: WebDisplays-0.6.zip
Installer 0.7 for Web Displays 0.5b for Minecraft Client 1.6.2: WDI_0.7.exe
Web Displays 0.5b for Minecraft Server 1.6.2: WebDisplays-0.5b.zip
Installer 0.6 for Web Displays 0.5 for Minecraft Client 1.6.2: WDI_0.6.jar
Web Displays 0.5 for Minecraft Server 1.6.2: WebDisplays-0.5.zip
Installer 0.5 for Web Displays 0.4 for Minecraft Client 1.6.2: WDI_0.5.jar
Web Displays 0.4 for Minecraft Server 1.6.2: WebDisplays-0.4.zip
Licenses:Mod & Topic License:
This document and is Copyright © 2013 Nicolas BARBOTIN and is the intellectual property of the author. It may be not be reproduced under any circumstances except for personal, private use as long as it remains in its unaltered, unedited form. It may not be placed on any web site or otherwise distributed publicly without advance written permission. Use of this mod on any other website or as a part of any public display is strictly prohibited, and a violation of copyright.
You can read the Awesomium license from the AWESOMIUM_LICENSE.txt file located in your .minecraft directory after installing the mod using the installer or at http://nico.tbb.free.fr/wd/LICENSE.txt
Jul 28, 2012WiseClock posted a message on Man vs Wild! - Bear Grylls Mod 2.5 NOW FOR 1.6.2! - ***EAT EVERYTHING***Posted in: Minecraft ModsBearGrylls 2.5By WiseClock
This Mod simply allows you to eat every single thing in minecraft by holding R key (customizable)
Some items/blocks give positive/negative effects
PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE POST BEFORE ASKING ME QUESTIONS...
F.A.Q- Is the mod compatible with xxxx?
I DON'T KNOW, you can try it yourself, but remember to back things up.
- How do I download/install the mod?
Scroll down to the Installation part.
- It crashes!
Well, install the latest forge first. If it still crashes, paste the log here...(inside a spoiler please)
- It doesnt eat the item I was eating!
Please check if you have used a mod that replaces base classes. Especially asian characters input mod.
Planned Features- Custom languages (I have English, Chinese, Japanese as built-in for now.)
- Custom config sheet that allows server owners to set effects for each mod item
- More armor sets
- More drops
- To pee.
- To drink pee.
- Different effects for enchanted items. *
Change LogJul 25 2013 (v2.5)
- Fixed the bug when you hit zombies with zombie armors on, they still dont attack you
Jul 22 2013 (v2.4)
- Fixed a bunch of bugs
- Now you can break a head without crashing in MCPC
- Fixed the crafting of Zombie Leather's problem
Jul 20 2013 (v2.2)
- Updated to 1.6.2 (Should I say finally? you know i'm lazy c'mon)
- When you place the head you obtained from other players, their name appears on it.
Feb 10 2013 (v2.1)
- Now other players can see/hear you eating
- You can obtain player heads by killing them with Bear Grylls Knife
- Minor bugs fixed
Feb 09 2013
- Updated to 1.4.7 (finally)
- Added an armor set
- Added effects for new items
- Removed dye effects when dyes are eaten (this is because that I can't modify client texture for players, if anyone knows how, please tell me ^^)
- Other changesVideosBearGrylls 2.5
ScreenShotsBear Grylls 2.2
Bear Grylls 2.0
USAGE- R key (By default): Eat.
- Dyes: You'll find something funny after eating them. If you encounter problems, please eat bone meal.
(Removed in 2.0 - Please see Change Log)
- Zombie armor: Zombies will ignore you if you worn Zombie Set... But if you attack one or more of them, all the zombies around you will attack you.,..
- Bear Grylls Knife
Use the knife to obtain loots from creepers, zombies, and spiders. You'll have a high chance of getting player heads by using the knife killing them.
RECIPESFirst, you'll need a knife
Then you use the knife to kill zombies and you get Zombie Hams!!! Use the hams to craft leathers~
You know whats next...
... Then you'll be like this (Head to usage to find out more...)
Forge + Mod installation tutorial video from __xXRyanXx__
Please Read Before Download/Install:
- Please download and install the latest Minecraft Forge Universal from here
(I use 22.214.171.1240 to compile)
- DropBox: adf.ly
For those of you who do not know how to install mods. After you have installed forge and have successfully launched the game, there will be a folder called "mods" created under your .minecraft folder. Please, then, just put the zip file of BearGrylls into the "mods" folder. Next time when you launch Minecraft it will be loaded automatically.
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- DropBox: adf.ly
2.3Fix(Fixed the NullPointer crash when kill mobs with nothing equiped):
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- MediaFire: adf.ly
2.2 Fix2 (Fixed a problem that crashes the server)
- MediaFire: adf.ly
2.2 FIXED (Now killing a player won't give you 11 heads...)
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- MediaFire: adf.ly
- Client: adf.ly
EffectsPlease see #3. (Bear Grylls 1.0)
- Sometimes you'll get NullPointerException... Still figuring out how this happened,,,
- Particles shown weird if you have optifine A7 installed.
- Zombies, Creepers, and Spiders do not drop body parts if you have optifine C3 installed.
- Sometimes there will be one item remaining even after you eat them all.
*Works well with Optifine C6 installed.
Jan 22, 2012SanAndreasP posted a message on Clay Soldiers Mod v. 3.0.0-alpha.3 (MC 1.12.x) / 2.0.0-beta.2 (MC 1.7.10)Posted in: Minecraft Mods
THERE IS A NEW ALPHA OUT FOR MINECRAFT 1.10.2! Stuff is missing due to me having to recode the mod yet again. If you want to get the newestalpha release, go to
https://minecraft.curseforge.com/projects/clay-soldiers-mod/filesStuff also has changed, so if you use the mod, I HIGHLY recommend getting JustEnoughItems (JEI) as well!I will also reformat this thread with the new stuff once this mod hits beta.Please note the new alpha requires SanLib, which you can get here:
This mod requires you to have at least Java 7! If you run Java 6, you need to update your Java!
You have an issue/crash? Please use the issue tracker now on GitHub! Stuff posted on here will get ignored!
So you're probably wondering to yourself "A mod involving clay? No Way! I need all the grey goop I can get for my brick castle!" Well put those tried, burnt hands to rest for a second and think about this: What if you could create your own miniature army out of clay and stage the most epic battles imaginable in a space small enough to be your backyard? Now before you accuse us of being a madman, take a look at this mod. Read ahead through the thread, and you'll see just what kind of violent mayhem you can cause with just a few simple materials plucked right from the ground.
A clay soldier is an item you can hold in your hand. It is crafted using a clay block (for substance) and soulsand (for sustaining intelligent life). Once you have a nice little pile in your hands (up to 16), right-click to place them all at once or sneak-right-click to place only one.
They will quickly spread out and begin to roam the landscape. The soldiers walk slow and don't jump very high, but they have enough arm strength to climb up a single block. Unfortunately, since they lack a decent skeletal support structure (or even skin, for that matter), their delicate figures can be horribly mutilated by even the weakest of blows. A player can cripple a clay soldier in just a single punch.
So naturally, they aren't hostile towards anything bigger than themselves. But what in the world are they qualified to fight against? Other clay soldiers, of course! There are a whole lot of different teams you can craft your pale gray soldiers into: All 16 dyes (light gray count as regular soldiers for that matter) and even melon/pumpkin flavored! If you place two (or more) different teams and they can see each other, they immediately begin to fight.
You're probably thinking: "Well, that's neat and all, but is there anything to spice up the fights?" The answer is: Of course! Clay Soldiers can ride a plethora of different mounts and can hold a huge array of upgrades, on which you'll find out shortly.
Primary items:Clay Disruptor
- Stick, 20 uses, increases melee damage by 2-3 points
- Arrow, 20 uses, increases melee damage by 4-5 points, drops feather, counts as stick upgraded with flint
- Blaze Rod, 20 uses, increases melee damage by 1-2 points, causes burn time on target
- Bone, 30 uses, increases melee damage by 3-4, increases melee range slightly, can not be equipped while riding mount, can not ride mount while equipped
- Shear Blade, 25 uses, increases melee damage by 1-2 points, by 3-4 damage on first hit while stealthed, can be held in either hand
- Glistering Melon, 25 uses, heals any ally below 25% hp by 15 points, soldier doesn't attack enemies while equipped with this
- Gravel, 15 uses, thrown for 2-3 points damage
- Snowball, 5-20 uses, thrown for 0 damage, slows target on hit info: uses depend on the item given! snowball gives 5; snow layer gives 10; snow block gives 20
- Fire Charge, 15 uses, thrown for 1-2 damage, causes burn time on hit
- Bowl, 20 uses, reduces incoming physical damage by half (when used with leather, only receives 25% of original damage) info: no longer entirely blocks ranged attacks, only reduces damage from them
- Shear Blade, 25 uses, increases melee damage by 1-2 points, by 3-4 damage on first hit while stealthed, can be held in either hand
- Emerald, 5-45 uses, deals 3-4 direct unavoidable damage at medium range, plus two with sugarcane boost, doubles if target is wet info: uses depend on the item given! emerald item gives 5 uses; emerald block gives 45 uses
- Nether Quartz, 4 uses, deals heavy knockback to all targets nearby if soldier takes too many hits
- IronIngot, Makes soldier vastly resistant to knockback, increases knockback dealt to others, both effects neutralized vs another iron ingot user
- Brick, Makes soldier extremely slow and less willing to move, will use ranged attacks if available before melee
- String, Makes soldier resist all damage from one explosion
- Cactus, 75% chance to negate burn time, halves total burn time otherwise
- Nether Brick, Gives burn time to any soldier that attacks nether brick user with unarmed attacks
- Wheat, Makes soldier never attack, even if hit first
- Nether Wart, Makes soldier attack its allies
- Fermented Spider Eye, Makes soldier not attack, unless attacked first
- Leather, 20 uses, reduces incoming physical damage by half (when used with bowl, only receives 25% of original damage)
- Food, 4 uses, heals soldier when below 25%, healed XP is hungerPoints * 0.5
- Gold Nugget, gives soldier a crown, all of team follows the king
- Glowstone, makes soldier glow, block gives to infinite soldiers
- Gunpowder, 1 use, soldier explodes on death (incompatible with magmacream/firework star)
- MagmaCream, 1 use, places a 2 second time bomb on the soldier which deals the final attack if killed by melee hit (incompatible with gunpowder/fireworkstar)
- Sugar, makes soldier move faster (incompatible with diamond upgrades)
- Clay, 4 uses, revives fallen soldiers of own color
- GhastTear, 2 uses, revives brick dolls to own color
- RedstoneDust, 4 uses, causes target to entirely stop attacking for 3 seconds, applied by all thrown and melee attacks, block gives to infinite soldiers
- Slimeball, 5 uses, causes target to entirely stop moving for 3 seconds, applied by all thrown and melee attacks
- Feather, soldier can not attack while falling, soldier's fall is slowed greatly and takes no damage on landing, no effect with iron ingot or while mounted
- GlassBottle/Pane/Block, doubles vision range, soldier can see stealthed enemies, bottles and panes give 1, block as infinite supply
- Paper/Book, gives a plain cape, dyed paper and books give colored capes, book gives to infinite soldiers
- Diamond, gives super crown and cape, doubles number of uses for all limited use items, grants sugar speed boost, multiplies hp by 10, incompatible with diamond block
- Diamond Block, gives super crown and cape, multiplies limited use item uses by five, grants sugar speed boost, multiplies hp by 80, incompatible with diamond
- EnderPearl, soldier zombifies, gains +5 hp, heals fully when deals last hit to a target, targets slain become zombies, dies after 10 minutes of no fighting
- BlazePowder, 1 use, instantly kills target with fire, turning it into brick doll
- RedMushroom, 1 use, applies poison to target
- BrownMushroom, 2 uses, heals soldier for 10 hp when below 25%
- LillyPad, soldier has pants and will float on water, no effect when used with iron ingot
- Egg, soldier is ghostly and can not be detected by enemies not wearing glass goggles, doubles damage output of shears, will be detected when others wearing glasses
- WheatSeed, soldier can NOT be infected by any zombification
- WoodButton, increases melee damage by 1 when no weapon is equipped, incompatible with stone button
- StoneButton, increases melee damage by 2 when no weapon is equipped, incompatible with wood button
- MobHead, gives the soldier a mask to wear
- FireworkStar, 1 use, soldier explodes on death in a firework effect, incompatible with gunpowder/magmacream
Before we'll talk about the mounts, lets firstly talk about how to clean up a mess! Your soldiers run away and you don't want to chase them around, killing every single one of them? Or you're just tired of the current fight and want to restart the match with different upgrades? Then we have the right device for you! Upon usage it will kill every soldier (and mounts, too) in a 32 block radius, clean and tidy! There's also a hardened version, which gives the double amount of uses.
For the creative crafters: When you use it while sneaking, you can delete every clay soldier / mount item laying on the floor, too!
Indeed you can craft a trusty steed for them to sit on! Simple soulsand and a material, which is usable to craft a horse for your personal armies to ride and enjoy. Horses have no team allegiance, so any soldier can ride any horse. Depending on the used material, a horse will have either more health or more speed. In 50% of cases a soldier with a horse gets hit, the horse will take the damage instead of the rider. Be careful not to burn the horses, though!
But normal horses may be not enough for you. So why not try pegasi? Those elegant flying creatures will hover above the ground and share the same material treats as horses.
These adorable little things come in different flavors, which are all capable of holding your armies above water. Also, if they get damaged, they'll reflect a small potion of the damage back to the attacker! Other than that, each type has it's own speed and health values, just like horses do.Bunnies
Bunnies come in ALL the wool colors and, different from their horse/pegasus/turtle counterpart, have the same speed and amount of health. They will hop as high as the player can, even when ridden, which is amazing considering their size! Oh, and they constantly jump around when a soldier hops on them, making it difficult for the enemies to hit them properly.Geckos
Those spider-like creatures can be crafted from any type of (vanilla) sapling, so there are the richest mount regarding type variety! You ask "Why spider-like?" Well, because they can climb up to 3 block-high walls! Despite having so much different types (36), or even because of that, they are all the same regarding speed/health, just like bunnies.Clay Nexus
The day of extended, never ending battles is upon us! This is the greatest piece of clay-technology we've ever made. This device, when activated, will call upon the spirits of fallen soldiers of the many battles past to return to the frey in an attempt to redeem themselves in combat once more! It can also provide a spirit-mount for the spawned soldier. Both won't drop any item upon death, neither themselves nor their upgrades! Enemy soldiers will attempt to deactivate the nexus, but only when they have no target to attack anymore. Did we tell you that it can throw anything the soldiers can throw? No? Well, now you know.Clay-Statistics Display
You've always wanted to know how many soldiers are on the battlefield and predict who will win? We've heard your calls and crafted this next wonder in clay-technology! Just by holding it, you can see which team with how many members is on the battlefield. It even goes as far and counts the number of mounts.
This is a non-finished feature for now! Stuff can change, you have been warned!Shear blades
This is explained in the upgrades section, so we'll just give you the crafting recipes here:
For all those adventurers out there, we've asked the all-mighty ChunkGenerator to add those to his generation features, and he finally heard us! When generating new chunks of land (either by generating a new world or by exploring new areas), you may encounter one of these buildings, filled with peaceful clay soldiers and a chest filled with clay-related stuff in them. But be careful, since there is a chance of encountering a zombified hut whose inhabitants are out to kill you!
This is a non-finished feature for now! Stuff can change, you have been warned!
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Jul 26, 2011Posted in: SuggestionsFOR THE CRITICS
A guide on how a poster can improve the forum
As of the time of writing, this topic has been repped 300 times, viewed 67109 times, and I've seen countless times of people using the material within to improve the forum or at least improve the criticisms abounding from it.
This is baffling. I am both honored to have so many people following this thread, approving of it.
I am humbled to see it still stickied for so very longThis was a good run :). Thank you all for reading and entertaining this thread. I want to thank all of you for reading this thread and trying to work by it and encourage you to continue to do so. At the same time, Please remember that this is written by a human hand, and your judgment is the most important and valuable asset you have.
Please follow your own judgment as you post and deal with others, and use this as a tool instead of as a "critic's bible". If this tells you one thing and the rules tell you otherwise, the rules ALWAYS have precedent. Thank you all for your time.
Theriasis and crew have created an unbelievably well written thread on what to avoid when posting a new suggestion. This is a tool that you can find pinned at the top of this forum and includes ways to be a better suggester. However, it is my personal belief that making a good suggestion is only half the battle. This is a detailed guide on how to effectively critique a suggestion.
There are times where we all (I am far from an exception here) do not wish to take a great deal of time to critique a suggestion. We would all just like to stamp a suggestion with a "no" and be on our merry way. To this end, I'd like to express the multitude of different ways where we can improve the forum, improve suggestions, and improve our chances to not get banned all to hell by simply doing our jobs (critiquing) without changing who we are.
I do not expect anyone or everyone to follow everything here word for word. At its most primitive, this is simply a codex of applied common sense. I only ask that you try your hardest to respect your fellow members.
This is not necessary to read but it exists in case problems arise from the multitude of different cases you meet while at the forum. While it's not necessary, it certainly won't hurt. It may be necessary if you have been warned for toxic behavior. I recommend you NOT read this entire guide at once, but one section at a time if you want to read all of it. (Give your brain a chance to chill, yo!)
Below is the table of contents detailing various problems I've seen.
The points I'd like to cover are:
⦁ Who am I and who are you?!
⦁ Sounding smart
⦁ Putting it all together
⦁ Already suggested
⦁ Effective criticising
⦁ The only thing that would make this topic better is if I accidentally killed it.
* I grief with clay!
⦁ Obviously, OP needs to hear the same criticism 300 times before he has a chance to respond.
⦁ The power of Report!
⦁ The package Combo
⦁ Slipping off the level playing field.
⦁ I can't think without you!
⦁ Denial of the fittest!
⦁ ALL CAPS MEANS I'M ANGRY!
⦁ This is bad as there is a flaw
⦁ Minecraft is ______
⦁ FTC caused MC to lag!
⦁ It's only obvious!
⦁ What to do when explanations aren't important.
⦁ Necro vs Rezzing
⦁ Infdev is the best Minecraft!
⦁ This is Minecraft, not ...
⦁ Replying and Snipping
⦁ Getting to the point by completely missing it
⦁ What the Heck is "championing"?
⦁ Tools of the trade
⦁ Notch doesn't know how to code
⦁ Duties of a critic
⦁ ♪Your wasting my time!♪
⦁ This is a suggestion!
Nice Guides Finish Last
Before we begin, this guide is an attempt to show HOW you can remain yourself WHILE ALSO remaining within the forum rules. The premise is simple; you may not have to like the idea, but at least respect the poster. This is a difficult problem and one that I think we all can use help with.
The first thing I would like to state is what defines a critic and what the roles of a critic are.
This is very simple: In a given thread there are 2 people. The Original Poster is always qualified as the suggester. Anyone else who replies is a critic. I had a humorous PM conversation with a member here where he asked a few mock-up questions about the definitions so I'll get these out here so that it's easiest to answer before the questions are asked.
Q: What if the suggester posts a reply to his suggestion?
A: He's still the suggester as it's his post.
Q: What if the suggester has an alternate account?
A: He's still the suggester.
Q: What if the alt disagrees with the suggester?
A: He's still the suggester though I would recommend a shrink.
[not asked]Q: What about the site admins?
A: as OP, suggester. As replier, critic.
Critics are counterparts to the suggester. They are there to praise the good and criticize the bad elements of a suggestion. Often, the critic will offer blind praise with 1.5 million (conservative estimate) smilies. This is an acceptable if not totally obnoxious method.
I define the term critic for use in these forums as: A critic is a poster whom replies to the suggestion with feedback remaining impartial and unbiased toward the original poster and suggestion, discussing the suggestion in terms of balance, flow, implementation, quality, usefulness, conceptualization, and understandability.
I understand the above is a tall order to handle and it is not expected of a poster to cover every part of these details in his reply; however, covering these points allows the suggester some serious and helpful detail to improve his post and is valuable even if you personally agree with the suggestion (more on that below).
Supporting details are something you'll see as a recurring theme here. What are supporting details? They're what makes your criticism relevant. They're what makes your criticism valid. They're what makes your criticism worth reading and worth replying to.
If you make a criticism and you're running into a ton of hate, you probably neglected this part.
They're actually more important than the criticism itself. Seriously. Even if the actual criticism is faulty; the supporting details are what allow others to see your thought process.
If you don't have enough time to give supporting details to back up your criticism, you don't actually have the time to make the criticism.
I am many things: impulsive, brash, arrogant, take your pick. I'm nowhere near crazy enough to suggest that there's a catch all method or way to criticize without encountering counters or opposition. There's just too many ways; and the scope and needs vary according to the suggestion in question, amount of content that needs to be addressed, other already pressed criticisms, etc. With that said, the actual scope of criticising may be immense; but they all boil down to two things.
1) the criticism/assertion – what you're criticising. It can be anything from too much lag, OP, imba, personal distaste, prevalence of related existing entities/concepts, etc.
2) the supporting details – why you're criticising? What is the thought process? This does not have to be perfect. It can be based in logic, speculation, or reasoning. However, it does have to be thoughtful. People have strong rationale and reasoning that sometimes doesn't conform to logic. Others have solid logic that frustratingly doesn't apply to behavior. Sometimes what you bring to the table is flawed. That's fine, so long as there's a root in perspective and you're okay with amending the view. The more technical or specific the criticism, the more supporting details you need to bring. i.e. If you bring a criticism of “lag city” for example: you should have a basic level of how Minecraft works and a competent ability to explain the lag or you'll meet a LOT of resistance.
This isn't going to win you any Mark Twain awards for literature, and there's a ton of other things that go into it; but so long as you have those 2 parts, you'll have the basic ingredients of a criticism.
Also, freeform quick-fire questions are also really useful here. Sometimes the best you can do to stimulate a suggestion is ask about the stats of a mob or recommend stats. This is most useful when discussing mobs, biomes, or consumables; but can be used in a lot of areas where a few questions are all that's needed to engage OP and promote discussion.
Screaming "Already Suggested" at a common idea is tantamount to spam. Yes, you heard me right. Do not state "already suggested" unless you have another one to reference. The reason is simple; the game is 5+ years old, it has a fan base where every (practically) member has posted a suggestion on the board. This game has MILLIONS of players; and millions others who would LIKE to play the game. They all contribute to the trash heap.
What are the chances of ANY suggestion ANYONE has come up with would be original by now? Law of averages is not on your side. "Already suggested" becomes a categoric insult at this point, and more statement of the obvious akin to typing "This is a collection of words on a bulletin board system". Thanks, Cleetus; we got that.
This thread was originally created before the rule of being able to create a new thread if a previous incarnation has been dead for one month or longer. With this said, if a suggestion _is_ redundant, don't blindly scream "already suggested", instead. Find a previous, more relevant, thread and link there. Report the thread. Do not tell the suggester he is being reported.
If you wish to be helpful before the inevitable lock, instead of telling the OP to use search; instead search for him, offer your choice thread as a link to check out; and then report the thread for lock. Again, Don't tell the OP he's being reported.
Unfortunately, "no"-- while valid (a statement of dislike, which means that the suggestion is not perfect) -- is not a very helpful criticism. Where does the poster improve his suggestion? What hallmarks does he go by?
Remember that one-word and two-word responses like "no" and "don't like" are against the rules. The reasoning is very simple; they do not help. Yes, they are your opinions and they are criticisms; but they help in the same way as the engine light coming on in a car. Yes, there is a problem... Now... Where?
To effectively criticize, it is important to have your personal views and beliefs take a back seat. Remember that this is a suggestion for inclusion into the game for ALL players. The OP may not have back-seated his bias, but a critic should. While cases of "I personally don't see myself using this." or "I do not prefer this mechanic" are definitely valid arguments, the OP CANNOT use this to strengthen his post. How can he improve it if you are fundamentally opposed to the basic premise? you can't? Exactly! Backseat your concerns.
What "actual" reasons do you have to say no? Difficulty? Mechanics? Cost? Fundamental problems?
Keep in mind that even if you say YES to a suggestion, it is desirable to post criticisms to further cement and improve the idea.
Finally, if you can't find a good thing to say about the suggestion; it takes less energy to press back and ignore it than it does to reply with "no". If you're going to be lazy, then be lazy.
Ever see an epic length suggestion that you cannot find the time to read? Ever post TL;DR? Yeah?! Don't.
TL;DR is NOT a breakdown in communication, it is a refusal to do so. TL;DR means you haven't read the suggestion, so you HONESTLY have no freaking idea what the suggestion is talking about in the first place, so you are admitting that you don't understand the concept of the thread; won't bother to understand it, and are speaking totally from the limited scope of your voided personal opinion. This is a personal pet peeve, and one that a serious critic should stamp out as quickly as possible.
Expectedly (It's almost a slippery slope except this one is a predictable and regularly arrived-at result) this is considered flaming.
KILLING ME WITH KINDNESS
"Killing me with kindness" is all about killing the very thread you're trying to promote. This is usually done by brick-walling discussion with "support" or "partial support".
Look guys, I think it's neat-o that you support the suggestion, but adding in your thoughts or feelings on why you like it, which settings you can use it in, or what would make the suggestion even better. Otherwise, keep it to yourself. No one wants to read blind or baseless praise.
Often the good intentions of the poster may end up creating a red herring that can distract the discussion. In cases of a new thread, these good intentions are not enough to spark meaningful conversation to keep the thread alive. If you like the thread, and want to promote it; then find creative ways to spark conversation to keep it thriving instead of just going with a little “support” or “parsup”.
Supporting details, even when positive!
This one is about the tried and true criticism that yoshi9048 definitely can't touch! "People could use this for griefing!"
Or... maybe, just maybe... I might have something to say about it. STOP IT! Now brah, I know what you're thinking; but hear me out! Put your ear to your monitor and hear the words on this screen! Alright, now that everyone near you thinks you're crazy; I'm going to say "stop using it". It's copy pasta. It's basically the can of soup argument all over again. You easily can apply this criticism to a can of soup and be correct!
In fact, "it can be used for griefing" is so ubiquitous that I wouldn't be surprised if it outweighed Herobrine on the suggestions forum. Why do I say that? I can think of any item or feature already in Minecraft and state with full certainty and without batting an eye; it can be used to grief. Name anything, and I can create a paranoid system where it can be abused to devastating effect by anyone with an inclination to use it in such a way.
Which is to say, the suggestion is being denied by something outside of the scope of the suggestion; the malicious intent of another individual. This is the suggestions forum, not the server-nanny forum. With that being said; if you have a solid and plausible case where the idea can be easily exploited or abused unwittingly; then feel free to post your argument; but be very careful to keep your "it can be used to grief" to cases where a lot of detrimental harm can come from a suggestion with few positive elements.
Dogpiling is bad, also don't dogpile. Make sure you don't dogpile while you're at it. If you could be so kind, don't dogpile.
So this one is an issue that arises from what I'd consider a non-issue.
The NON-ISSUE: Echoing Fury - multiple critics make the same criticism, neglectful (whether intentional or just from lack of reading a (often multiple page long) thread) of other's contributions.
The ISSUE: Group Bullying. Let me explain. As people are ridiculed for an error in judgment or logical flow, it becomes more natural to demonize the outgroup. You, as the in-group would naturally feel justified. In the right. There is obvious social pressure to continue to castigate the suggester. Repeating the same criticisms as others, becoming more empowered to dehumanize the OP. As a thread progresses, and redundant criticism piles on; so does the appearance of a relaxation toward rules and decorum. At the end, it's possible that the OP of these threads are not even seen as worthy of basic human respect anymore, which is disingenuous at best.
The non-issue is always there. Solidarity of opinion is quite important. It allows the poster to know that it's not an isolated opinion, but a genuine problem with his design. This type of feedback, especially when given by multiple sources from different regions is always a good thing.
The issue is there though. And it's magnified by OPs natural denial. Being told that an idea you commit to the aether as a representative of you; your identity, your tastes, is now considered "bad" or "flawed" is humbling. It's a hard pill to swallow, I'd expect anyone to become recalcitrant toward the criticism. But when these criticisms are aggregated by multiple posters. It's easy to feel like you're being bullied. It doesn't help when critics instinctively ARE bullying due to falsely-perceived relaxed restrictions.
The point here is what I call dogpiling. It's where one person is tackled, and increasing number of people add to the weight of the tackle. While it's a good idea to show solidarity of opinion, if a critic already handled the criticism; there's not much point in restating it. It's already there. Use your up-votes if you agree. Try to avoid turning ugly.
Remember, these suggesters help keep the community alive. Work with them, become their friend. They could one day become a great force for a forum. The last thing we need is for you to drag down the forum by forming a collective mob identity.
There is a nifty button below each player's avatar that allows the poster untold power.
Well, not really. However, you will find the Report button under each person. I want to go over the basic etiquette of using it, when you should, and when you shouldn't.
The report button does not ban the poster, nor does it shoot lightning bolts. It simply brings attention to a moderator to allow them to sort out the problem. However, it is a vital tool and necessary to use on several occasions.
One thing I would like to note to everyone, not simply critics; if you are to report someone, don't be THAT guy. You know. Don't be the one that goes and tells the person that they've been reported. All that causes is petty revenge scheming and forces things downhill. You know that road to hell? You'd be walking it.
I'll list it this way. If you're going to report someone:
1) do NOT tell the person he's being reported.
2) do NOT tell the person he's being reported.
3) report him
4) do NOT tell the person he's being reported.
5) do NOT tell the person he's being reported.
6) press back and leave the thread
DO NOT TELL THE PERSON HE'S BEING REPORTED. I can't be any clearer, consider this to be your warning.
It is important to note that it is wise to use the Report button when material is questionable or worse. If you have a gut feeling that the post is against the rules, but can't put your finger on it; report with a full reason. If you're wrong, no harm no foul. If you're right, the post will be locked/deleted and the poster may/may-not receive a warning/ban or possibly a slap on the wrist in a worst case.
Here are what I view as no-harm-no-foul reports because the poster isn't harshly punished.
⦁ Wishlists - LOCKED
⦁ Posted in wrong forum - MOVED
⦁ Redundant Suggestion - LOCKED
⦁ Off topic - LOCKED
Mild to major penalties arise from flaming, trolling, disrespect to admins/fellow members, continuously locked or moved topics.
Insta-ban penalties arise from hate (religious, gender, racial prejudice), trivializing horrendous events (trivializing the holocaust for the lolz >_>), or pornography.
Remember that reporting is a right of forum members; treat it and others with respect.
AS EASY AS TV DINNER!
This section is all about prepackaged criticisms and my general response to them. "Don't use them". Consider: If you can pick up a criticism and use it toward a can of tomato soup; it's probably not stable enough to use as a criticism of another member's work. Prepackaged (also called ad lib or copypasta cop-outs by me) criticisms are:
⦁ This would cause lag.
⦁ This isn't very popular.
⦁ This would be too hard to code.
⦁ Not enough detail
⦁ Too much detail
⦁ You can do this in command blocks
⦁ I don't think it would fit
These criticisms by themselves are horrible. If you want them to go from a useless waste of time to an actual criticism, you can start by validating your points with SUPPORTING DETAILS. Ahhh, it rears its ugly head again!
Let me be frank, unless you bother to add supporting details to your opinion; you DO NOT HAVE ONE.
I added "you can do this in command blocks" to this list for the very same reason. I can do EVERYTHING with command blocks, rendering practically every game mechanic obsolete. Command blocks cannot be used in many maps and are inaccessible without going OP. Because of this, this fails as a criticism.
THINK OF THE POOR FISH!
That reminds me. Here's another prepackaged/canned response to stop using. Of course, I'm talking about the slippery slope fallacy. If political pundits aren't able to use this without getting caught; and they have literal dozens of hours of training. There is no way an average person with no rhetorical, debate, or classical training will do any better (especially since debate and classical training trains you to avoid such responses).
So, what is slippery slope? It's where a suggestion has an unverifiable consequence without any link used to deny support. "We shouldn't add this new food because than everyone would want more food types. What's next, eating the bone marrow of skeletons?"
Y'know... Sometimes OP simply wants to add radish and radish related dishes to the game without the inclusion of any other vegetable or type of food. It just might be a thing... OR... Maybe if he WANTED other foods, he'd place them in another thread as it belongs with its own discussion.
Or, in a worst case scenario, the absolute worst case happens; this opens a door where the suggestions forum is flooded with dozens of related suggestions. This forum has (as of writing) 3128 pages of suggestions. Creating that 3129th page is going to create a time paradox that destroys universe within the greater multiverse, right?... No? Oh, then what's the issue?
Let's get back to why I say it's prepackaged garbage. Take any suggestion. ANY suggestion. Even golden ones like colored light, muskets, new biomes, etc. For added fun, let's use your suggestion. Just fill in the blank.
"If they added ___your_suggestion___ then people will want ___random_guff_that_I_think_up___. What next? ___outlandish_and_unrealistic_demands_that_have_nothing_to_do_with_OP___?!"
If they added _ then people will want _. What next? _?!
You see how easy that is? You can literally copy and paste that and enter in the fields. It's so easy I even did half the work for you. Or, how about you don't? I've already shown how this argument fails; just stop using it. Thanks!
POLLING THE AUDIENCE
Polling the audience is where you form your reason for approval or denial according to what you see as a norm.
"Not many people like wolves, so I'll say no here."
"Most people do not like this"
"This idea is unpopular"
"Wow, everyone said no to this suggestion, it must be crappy. No."
If you are going to deny something with the above or something similar, don't type anything, press back. Seriously, I don't want to read it. No one cares what you have to add to a suggestion. Why should they? What you have to say is easily swayed simply by conformity. Effectively, you don't have an opinion. Even if you did, how fickle would that opinion be? How much peer pressure would it take to change your mind? If your entire argument crutched on the amorphous blob that routinely changes standards of conformity; you become as amorphous and shambling at the group. Your opinion is not reliable as it's not influenced by points, counterpoints, or actual discussion. Your opinion is only reliant on "I hope I don't make X person or X group angry." You are invalidated.
If your post is only reflective of what you think is the majority's desire, then shut up and let the majority talk for you. You aren't representing yourself, you're representing what you THINK the majority likes. No one needs that. What do YOU think? What YOU think is important. Everyone knows what the majority thinks, all of the majorities. You don't have to parrot it back out.
Also, if you make someone angry for speaking your mind, who cares? Do you care? Why? So what if you make someone angry? They'll get over it, and hey, they may actually respect you for actually having the brass to stand on your laurels instead of sponging your opinion from someone else. Are you going to be a carpet to be walked on? Or are you going to form an opinion and speak it? There will always be people willing to be walked on; doesn't mean you have to fill that role.
I TOO AM THE WORKFLOW DIRECTOR OF MOJANG
This one is the "workflow director" problem. Refusing support of a suggestion because you think "Mojang should work on bugs/mobs/blocks/PvP/etc." is a stupid reason to deny support.
Here's the quick and dirty:
1) There is no room for communication. I mean, where does the OP go? Does he agree? Disagree? Who cares? You stalled communication while adding nothing to it.
2) The path you feel prudent for Mojang to take is inconsequential. They'll go their own path, if you want Mojang to work on a mob instead of a suggestion, THEN MAKE MOB SUGGESTIONS.
3) How the nether jelly fish is the OP supposed to not only PREDICT what you're going to say, but then make a post that affirms with you?! It's egotistical and impossible. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING the OP can do to remedy the suggestion as the only solution they have is to redirect the thread to in-line with your desired goals. Again, a selfish and irrational demand.
4) You are not the gatekeeper. You don't have an actual concept of Mojang's timetable and are in no position to demand what they should or should not work on next. Until you become president of Mojang, stop pandering to this criticism.
5) It's not a criticism. It's off-topic banter that has absolutely no bearing on a discussion. It's also modular; I can literally pick up and drop this argument into anything that isn't related to the criticism.
6) It's lazy, and if you're trying to be lazy, you just failed. Press BACK, that's even lazier and you don't have to task yourself with copypasta and posting.
Have you ever seen a suggestion you are so completely opposed to that your hair grays, your teeth start chipping, and you get an actual case of osteoporosis? No? No one does? Then stop acting like that, melodrama mama.
"THIS IS THE WORST SUGGESTION IT'LL NEVER GET ADDED AND I HOPE YOU DIE!" - First of all, turn your 10 into a 2. Second of all, statements like that will get you in jail. You're not Hulk, and gamma radiation causes cancer and death, stop 'roiding everywhere.
There is a small finite number of reasons you should ever show such bittering and all-consuming rage that it can only be expressed in torrid fits and ceaseless howls. In these occurrences, it's understandable that you SLAM ALL CAPS, KILL THE CRAP OUT OF [SHIFT]+1 (!), AND ACT LIKE YOU JUST GOT YOUR LEG CHOPPED OFF BY A RUSTY CHAINSAW!
Here's the expansive list: Revenge; Betrayal; Rape; Loss of family/friends; Excruciating Pain; prolonged starvation; violation of personal inalienable rights. Here's a highly abridged list of times you SHOULDN'T use such behavior: Someone makes a post you disagree with on the Internet.
Look, I understand that someone says something you don't like. Get over it! People say things I disagree with all the time, it's called COMMUNICATION. I use it to convey my ideas and responses, calmly to others until an agreement can be attained.
Saying "THIS IS THE WORST SUGGESTION IN THE PLANET AND WILL NEVER BE ADDED!" Only makes you look like a backwards ignorant idiot that totally refuses to communicate. This is basically the TL;DR rule all over again. If you don't plan to actually communicate, GET OFF THE FORUM. that's what the forum is there for, communicating, agreeing, disagreeing, and reaching equitable compromises.
I don't care if it's popular to hate on an idea, or if you were trying to be "cute" or "prove a point", I'm going to prove a point right now, if you type it then you look like an idiot, STFU and GTFO because I don't want to read it. It's not cute, funny, charming, or inspiring; it's only hateful and inciteful.
What can you say instead? "I disagree" - provide a reason, and go away. If you decide to go all BANE over a post and I happen to read it, I'll make a mockery out of you.
Save your melodrama for more important things than someone you'll never meet having an opinion. We have actual HUMAN EVENTS that occur that more deserve your pitiable overcompensating emotions than the first-world problem that someone feels differently over a video game.
I notice a flaw and now I'm going to harp on it!
Have you ever entered a well-made thread and had this unsettling feeling that you simply did not like the suggestion? You couldn't put your finger on it; and the rebellious part of your soul cried to be different with every positive review you've ever read? Finally, your saving grace comes! You notice a slight error in the OP's well-groomed and manicured suggestion and now the entire thing is a pile of crap!
Congratulations! You found an error in a well groomed and manicured suggestion! However, you're wrong, the suggestion is not a pile of crap and you are not a genius for pointing it out, merely a savant.
As you may have guessed, coming up with piddling trifles for denying a suggestion (untested and unverified numbers are not to your liking despite the author's repeated statements that the numbers are subject to change) (You dislike the color of the suggested mob) (the suggestion is not thematic) or other things is a cop-out.
If you can see dozens of possible applications and potential uses that you would PERSONALLY wish to obtain, why sweat the small stuff and deny the entire suggestion for one misgiving?
Though this hasn't personally hit me as annoying, I've seen fellow members grow fiercely agitated by this.
Yes, it is important to mention and note these problems as they are problems; but don't be cheap and expect perfection from very different imperfect beings. Don't deny support because something as trivial and alterable as mob color is giving you the blues.
Minecraft is this!
This isn't an issue in its own right. Many issues arise from what I like to call "hasty denial".
Concepts such as "too futuristic", "overpowered", "not thematic" are not intrinsically bad reasons for denying a reason. However, if they are provided without supporting details, they become SPAM.
Ahh, “supporting details”, that phrase again.
As a critic, it is your job to detail WHY you decline the suggestion. "not thematic" is not detailing, it's giving a reason. However, unless you support your reason; it is highly circumstantial and can be argued. You're there to post a reasonable discussion as to WHY you feel it's not thematic, not lead the OP into a meaningless debate.
It's a point of order, if your criticism is one or fewer sentences, save yourself the energy and don't post. "This is too futuristic" can be argued for ANY concept from wolves to pistons to laser rifles.
*ATTACKING THE HYDRA*
The hydra is a great mythological serpent from Greek myth which grows two new heads for each that is chopped off. It is considered to be a plague, killing thousands in its wake; and was only killed when Heracles cauterized each of the heads after chopping them off.
Now that we got that bit of Greek mythology out of the way; let me tell you what OUR forum hydra is. "Minecraft is __" often the blank is medieval, steampunk, etc. In any of these cases, you're wrong.
For The Critics has one of four lessons: Commit completely or don't commit at all, use common sense, communication is important, and have supporting details. This one waxes poetic on common sense, so expect this one to be straightforward.
"Doesn't fit" works in that way. If you were EVER curious what the exact theme of Minecraft was, it doesn't have one. I use 3 measures to legitimize this statement. The MEDIAN level of technology, the most proficient technology, and the difference between these two. The median technological level of Minecraft is pre-renaissance if we were to define it using Earth as a reference. I'd say 13th~14th century Europe would be a proper equivalent. However, the most advanced technology in the game is early/mid-20th century with the use of hoppers, trapped chests, pistons, and automated systems. Here's the problem: there's a 700-year UNEXPLAINED gulf between MC's common technology and MC's high technology. This makes its actual theme impossible to state using Earth as a reference.
Because of this, stating MC as medieval or steampunk or classical or neo-industrial would be incorrect. Instead of approving or denying a suggestion based off of an assumed setting; instead deny it or approve it on the only metric that WORKS: Intermediate Technology.
Intermediate - between
Technology - utilization of science.
In this case, intermediate technology simply means "technology that must exist for other technology to make sense." As an example: sticky pistons don't make sense unless you have pistons first. Trapped Chests require chests and tripwire hook. Smelting iron requires a furnace. Etc. As you can see, the idea is to base a suggestion's "fitting" on anything that allows it to fit instead of some flawed proposed setting.
There we go, I've attacked the hydra. Let's hope it did anything.
I was hoping I wouldn't have to add this; I was hoping the community would get this. I was wondering why people were still posting this. Then I saw that it wasn't added, people didn't see it as a "rule". So now, everywhere I go, I see people screaming "LAAAAGGG" like it means something.
Unless you justify this statement, it's unjustified. Your opinion is worthless because you haven't given it any worth. All you're doing is bumping your post count. You probably didn't even READ the thread before assuming "lol, too hard, lag"; and for many of you, you'll probably take offense here (because someone caught your lazy butts red-handed). Patience and hope for humanity has it's place, the Minecraft forums are not one of them; and because of this, this section has made a home here.
What's a "lagument"? Lagument is a portmanteau (a silly French word where you cross the word and meaning of two words to form a new word with both meanings (like modem or batarang) of lag and argument; and is often used across the board by everyone that can't find a good reason to deny a suggestion.
Can't think of a good reason to deny a suggestion you don't like? Don't like the OP? Simply say "too much lag" and be on your merry way. The problem here is that you can apply "too much lag" to EVERY SUGGESTION in this game, other sand boxes, any pc game, any console game, all games period, movies, music, pictures, any interactive media whatsoever, books, and your grandma. It's NOT A CRITICISM.
Look, this argument is stupid. "It would cause a lot of lag" or "It would probably cause lag". Unless you actually place HARD NUMBERS and REASONABLE ARGUMENTS to corroborate your assertion, you likely don't know enough about WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT to tell anyone what THEY'RE talking about. People that DO know what they're talking about will know YOU DON'T KNOW what you're talking about; and they'll call you out on it; you'll salt your own turf, call the entire community "haters/trolls" and never visit the forum again.
This is a cop-out, an unreasoned, and unprepared reason to simply deny a suggestion. Use it at your own risk. Please bear in mind that this excludes well organized and fully explained reasons for "lag" denial. It's not a fine line either; you either know what you're talking about or you don't. Because of this, be prepared to DETAIL and DEFEND your lag denial with actual facts.
Properly doing so will have one of three effects:
1) The thread is completely shut down.
2) The OP will make some bogus claim of "just upgrade your computer" or try to assuage the problem by ignoring it; trivializing it; or redirecting to keep a positive spin on a topic you thoroughly destroyed.
3) The OP will ignore you or insult you and proceeds to salt his own turf.
I mean, everyone knows that!
One of the things that isn't really prominent but does tend to grind at me a bit is a sentiment of universal understanding. Getting this train started right to ship off all this fail; "UNIVERSAL UNDERSTANDING" does not exist. Heck, it's a struggle to settle for "PARTIAL" understanding. Compromise? Is that an alcoholic beverage?
The first thing that any critic should do is assume that everyone on the page has the relative IQ of tree sap. The second thing that any critic should do is assume that these people are unwilling to change their views unless a significant amount of evidence contradicts their personal beliefs. At which point, you'll still have die-hards holding onto their reality to the point where proof exists as a mere contrivance and is as fraudulent as the poster regardless of verifiable claims.
To this point; there is no true understanding as we all live different lives. We have all had different past experiences. Perhaps you are the victim of domestic abuse; perhaps you grew up in a broken home; perhaps your parents are victims of chemical addiction (drugs and/or alcohol).
These all are measures which define us and show us how truly different we are from one another. One person can take a simple word and define it completely different from another.
The point of all of this is: Unless you have a frame of reference, nothing is obvious, and nothing is self-evident.
Keep in mind that I mention "frame of reference" for a reason. We can all make a safe assumption that everyone on Earth has seen rain and can obviate that each droplet of precipitate is "wet" and unabridged exposure to the precipitation will get the target entity wet as well.
However, frames of reference cannot be tacked on carelessly to any situation. This is where most people (independent of their intellect/education) screw up. A physicist may be able to describe the nature of the atom; and a meth-head may be able to make meth in his "lab", but it doesn't mean that the physicist would understand how to make meth any more than the meth-head could split the atom.
I've seen too many posters hone in with "DO U HONESTLY NOT NO THAT IT WERKS LIK DIS!?" You know; they may have an IQ of 180 and NOT know that. Just because you know a useless bit of trivia doesn't mean everyone does; open your scope and learn to accept differences in others.
Until you do this; expect to get warned and banned and flamed yourself.
I have the final word!
CREDITS FOR THIS SECTION: ANONTHEMOUSE
There is a distressing habit in posters to say things like "end of discussion", "/thread", or perhaps worst of all "this will never be added".
You really do not want to be the one to say one of these. Like the person in a horror movie who confidently states, "We're safe now.", you're setting yourself up to be proven tragically wrong. You may be feeling quite proud of yourself for delivering what you see as a final killing blow to a bad idea, but that isn't how it's going to turn out. In fact, saying that the issue is settled will almost guarantee that it continues, as people offended by your flippant tone either ignore your post outright, or continue arguing just to make you wrong.
Worse, statements such as these can weaken your position, not just for yourself, but for anyone else who agrees with you. In the first place, it gives an obvious error of judgement that others can use to call your other assessments into question. More to the point, though, these kinds of statements make you look desperate. It's basically an admission of defeat. If your arguments are sound, you don't need to tell people that they are. If you're really certain that the issue is settled, then you shouldn't need to say so. So when you do, it conveys the implication that your position is too weak to stand up to challenge from others, and you're just trying to get them to leave before they see the little man behind the curtain (as it were). Saying an idea will never be added is worse. Take a tally of how many things in the game right now were once certain to "never be added". Now, consider what making this statement means for your post... It raises the question, "Why are you even posting?" If the idea itself is so bad that it shouldn't be used, your posting is just bumping the topic, and getting it more attention. On the other hand, if the idea is really so inconsistent with the theme of Minecraft as to never be included, no matter how it's suggested/argued, posting is a waste of time. Because of this, it shouldn't come as any surprise if, when you state the absolute impossibility of an idea, no one believes you.
Grave Robbing for Dummies
First note I would like to make: There is a difference between necroing a thread and reviving/resurrecting one. The difference is in bump quality.
A personal definition for necro is a spam post like "bump" or similar "I disagree" or other non-constructive post. This is frowned upon and causes a great number of moderators to burn the zombified thread with a quick lock. The only reason you should ever post in any topic is because you have something useful to add to it. A statement of +1 or No adds nothing useful; therefore, the topic gets locked (in direct opposition to the desired effect.)
While necroing is against the rules, I personally feel that objectively reviving a thread with pertinent argument and qualifying discussion is not. Simply because a thread is as old as dirt does not mean it is dead, especially if it is better written and more pertinent than the current counterparts that exist.
It is POSSIBLE to resurrect old threads, but it must be done with care and great respect to the original poster and the thread itself.
Here's the playbook:
I have found the powerful blows of the mod-hammer have not fallen on my conscientious efforts to revive a valid and worthwhile thread despite age.
It is important to remember to use sound judgment on whether to revive a topic or not. If you cannot properly add information to a topic, then it may not be as acceptable as you may think.
If a thread was made in 1.3 and it's content is out of date, it's a bad idea to revive it.
If a thread was made with poor grammatical structure and is only a sentence, it is a bad idea to revive it.
Save your revivals only for those things truly deserving to be revived.
Perfection was achieved in Alpha!
This is for you nostalgia clowns. It's not really a statement of proper etiquette or technique. It's more of a base-line question. Why? Why are you in suggestions? Why are you posting at all? You already have the perfect version; you can go back to it at any time.
To carry this sentiment, you can understand why adopting this mentality as a "reason" for denial is a bit pathetic; I'd hope. If you don't like a suggestion because you play in an earlier version and don't think it'd work because of that, shut up. It won't affect you anyway. How do I know? You're playing a DIFFERENT version. It's a recursive self-answering question.
"I play 1.6.1 because I don't like baby zombies, and this suggestion would just make them more stupid!" - you invalidated yourself because you flat won't be affected. At all.
"I don't support bc then everyone else would just load a different version." First, you don't know that. Second, shut up, you don't have the knowledge or authority to speak for everyone else. Third, your statement becomes immediately invalid the second someone disagrees with you and loves the idea. Stop being bad.
If I wanted this, I'd play God of War
This annoys me.
Someone saying no to an idea simply because it may have something in common with another game. Given ANY idea I have ever seen and my limited grasp of games I have personally played; I can say NO to just about every idea that presents itself because I've seen it before. Seriously, no one cares if you saw the idea in another game as long as it's theme and usage conforms to Minecraft.
That is not to say that blatantly ripping off mechanics from existing games is a good thing; but when a player comes up with an idea, it should not be shut down simply because there is a tenuous generalization of an implementation in another game.
Broaden your methods of critiquing if that's the best critique you can come up with because this is lame.
And I quote!!!
If you have read everything so far; you may have picked out a common running theme. "Don't be lazy!" or more adequately, "Don't half-finish!"
One such case that isn't really well known is hastily replying; especially on these forums. When you reply to a post, you quote the entire post you are replying to (minus their quotes). This is obnoxious especially when replying to an already lengthy OP. People like reading the OP the first time, reading it again, or simply scrolling past it is obnoxious.
It's simple enough, don't be lazy, crop the post or delete the reply you are quoting unless it is relevant. You can use "*snip*" if you would like; but it is understandable and preferable that you AT LEAST cut at all. This saves other readers unnecessary stress, and allows everyone to get the full picture.
What you're trying to say is...
This has been a no tolerance card for me for a while.
Despite the fact that the OP/other discusser has made a POST that you can QUOTE at ANY time and reread to your heart's content; posters decide to use this colloquialism. Stop! it's the internet equivalent of being dropped on your head repeatedly.
You don't need to infer what the partner of discussion said, it's WRITTEN right there. When you say something witty like "What you're trying to say is -" you are literally putting words in the other person's mouth. Don't do that. This is literally straw-manning. It's also admitting you didn't read what the other person posted but are instead reinterpreting and distorting their message; even well intentioned, it's obnoxious. This is insulting, unverifiable, and plain wrong. Don't do it.
Q: "But Yoshi? What are we supposed to say then?"
A: If it's a discussion, then don't infer anything. If something someone said doesn't make sense or needs clarification; ASK FOR CLARIFICATION instead of shoving your words in their mouth. I cannot be any more serious about this.
I claim this topic in the name of...
Champions... What the HECK AM I TALKING ABOUT? What does it mean to "champion a thread", and why do I preach so highly about it? There's probably a much better colloquial term than what I use, I am known to make up terms to describe actions when I can't find the proper term.
Becoming a champion means you fully support a topic and will defend it and the original poster. You keep the topic alive, and help the OP through the inevitable waves of argument, you essentially become a "champion" of the thread, keeping it alive. You become the thread's hero. Sound cool? See why I have difficulty coining it as anything but "championing?"
This means you do not do anything to get the thread locked (flaming, insulting, tend to do this quick, avoid that) while calmly and respectfully refuting well-intentioned and well-made arguments.
Well, buckle down and put on that cape because you got heroing to do. While a champion's goal may be the preservation of a thread, his job is also to make that thread much more powerful, prestigious, and shiny. He does this by seeking other similar threads, referring them to the championed thread, and reporting the similar thread for lock due to redundancy.
Remember, it is OK to post "already suggested" as long as you provide a link to reference. Use this to your advantage as you dismiss other threads in preference to the gem you have found.
My rubric says...
You cannot please them all, you will find more than your fair share of bull-headed, ignorant, and downright stupid OPs which cannot accept criticism and pull the troll card far faster than they can make a legitimate string of letters. They will double and triple post their counter-arguments. Do NOT follow them down the road to Hell, though it is tempting to bat at their flailing limpid attempts. This will get you banned/warned along with them.
Occasionally, you'll have GOOD and DECENT posters which will engage in lively debate. As a critic, you should really only have 3 or so major criticisms. Any more and the suggestion is nearly irrecoverably bad without a massive overhaul. Any less, and the suggestion is not really detailed or the suggestion is well done. Keep these criticisms in mind as you reply.
If the OP has encountered your objections and successfully overcome them, offer counter-criticisms. If he overcomes them; then simply stop. If there isn't an issue, don't create one. Forcing issues creates senseless flame wars. Know when to stop, and STOP at that line. While it may seem like 3 issues isn't much; consider that there are likely several others with other issues.
Again remember to backseat your emotions and bias toward a suggestion while criticizing. It is often a good idea to keep a personal rubrick or outline so you can plot all that is wrong with the suggestion.
The goal here is to avoid flame wars by not instigating one. Limiting your criticisms is a good way of doing so.,
This cannot be coded
Thanks badprenup for pointing this out... When a good suggestion is declined because it is too hard to code. Says who?
It's too hard to code? For you? For Notch? How do you know it's too hard to code? Do you have a master's degree in computer science? Do you create the JAVA interpreter for Oracle? Are you a professional video game designer whom can create a complete game in 1/2 a day? If you are none of the above, the complaint of "Too hard to code" is irrelevant and is seen as a really sloppy cop-out for when a good reason to decline cannot be made.
"It's Impossible to code" is even worse. This assertion states that no one, in the entire world, among modders and professional coders, could ever add the suggestion. The problem here is the principle of perfection. The moment a SINGLE PERSON codes it, the suggestion is no longer impossible. Congratulations, you just salted your own turf and made yourself look like an idiot. I mean, "too hard to code" is a sloppy and shameful cop-out, but at least there's room for subjective denial. There's no recovery here.
"Oh, that person just doesn't have a life." - Is that a counter? So... Wait... Not only were you proven wrong, but proven wrong by someone you consider "socially inferior" after they ONLY TRIED TO HELP YOU. Way to make yourself look even more like a jerk. Also, what's worse than someone with no life? Whatever it is, you just filled that position.
Roles of a critiche made a base idear expandings our job
Have you seen anything like this? Ever felt like this? This is a common viewpoint for many posters, and I'm not sure where this came from. It certainly isn't in the rules; and it certainly hasn't passed my ears, though I'm sure that the treacherous corruptive whispers of Nidhoggr have yet to reach me.
I'd like to state first of all, NO. This is not our job. Expanding is the SUGGESTER'S job. Though we may be compelled to assist the suggester as is the right of any good Samaritan, it has probably been taken for granted and acted upon as though codified law.
It is also not our job to search and analyze every disparate post on a thread for updates to the suggestion. They should be in the suggestion body through edit. Is it nice for a critic to look for recent updates to the suggestion in later posts? Sure! That'd be awesome; but that is a preference and a whim; not a requirement. A critic shouldn't have to slog through 35+ pages of a thread to feel justified in posting. The suggestion in OP is satisfactory.
As a critic, your job is to criticize, objectively and impartially on grounds such as gameplay balance, feasibility, theme, comprehension, necessity, and usefulness. Nowhere in there does it state that you must go and be the damn suggester.
Do not let anyone tell you differently. Now, is it nice and suggested that you help? Of course, but it is not required. If you do help, you should also demand credit for the parts of the idea that were either taken or directly inspired.
A proper way to criticize and help improve a suggestion is to fire open-ended questions that you feel are missing from the suggestion. How much life does a mob have? What's the crafting recipe for this item? How long is the mob set on fire? Will this affect X mob in any way? How about Y mob? etc.
This allows the suggester full creative freedom to edit his suggestion as he sees fit without having to quote or credit you. There are, of course, a multitude of other methods to improve; but that is my preferred.
CRITIC CRITICS CRITICIZE CRITICS
Critic does not mean infallable. Sometimes you're wrong. Sometimes another critic is wrong. That's fine. That's cool. Everyone is wrong from time to time. It's inevitable for all intensive purposes. +1 if you catch that, apply +1 to nearest pedant-o-meter..
The key here is that if a critic is in the wrong; you need to remain respectful, helpful, and calm. (if you cannot remain respectful, helpful, or calm then do not engage(DNE).) inform them that they are mistaken and why (yep, supporting details, peeps).
Keep the correction on-topic. The discussion needs to remain about the suggestion and improvements/criticisms of it. Failure to do so can lead to a discussion purge (or worse) a thread lock. If the correction forces the discussion off-topic or has potential to create a red-herring; please forward the correction to private messages or DNE. If the opposing critic is violating rules, report them (DON'T TELL THEM YOU'RE REPORTING THEM!) and DNE.
THIS WOULD BE USELESS!
I'm going to start off this one rather bluntly. WRONG! You are WRONG. Period.
Good, we got the message? Now let me explain the points.
As people have gotten acquainted with this little thread, I've seen plenty of people try to circumvent what's written here as though it's cannon (to those that follow this thread, I am deeply honored and humbled simultaneously, I thank you all for following as you have) and because of that, they will go into every unspecified reason to deny a suggestion they can. It's a quaint testament to human ingenuity and security defeating. I love it, but I digress. There are TWO times I've seen this pop up, both of which are unverifiable and likely invalid criticisms.
1) It would be a waste of time to code!
This one is a lovely little ditty that tries to comply with the IT CAN'T BE CODED parable while completely ignoring exactly WHY it's posted in the first place. The good news is you're no longer saying "it can't be coded". Which is 100% unverifiable. The bad news is you're NOW saying "it can't be coded quickly enough" or "it wouldn't be worth the time it takes to code".
Either way, C_FLAT (it's actual go-to label) already lists why it COULD be coded quickly enough or how it WOULD be worth the time to code. Here's the thing. If you do not understand programming languages/logic/structure then EVERYTHING is too hard to code, including the programming for this forum, the Windows/Linux/Mac OS you're using, and the games you enjoy playing. Why bother making pong? It can't be coded.
The problem is, there exists things known as barrier of entry. The more you do something, the easier things become. What may be impossible or taxing to you may be a simple addition to someone else. Essentially, this is a problem that shouldn't have to be addressed because it fails for the same reasons as the surrogate it replaces.
2) It would be more work than it's worth!
An appeal to efficiency, eh? Again, you'd look rather silly if it took Mojang about 15 minutes to comment in/test/comment out. You can't really say this because it is not known to you how hard the task at hand would actually be. Because of this, it's probably far easier than you give it credit for.
Unless you have credible time programming and understand how difficult a suggestion really is, stop. If you don't have programming; at least back up your criticism with facts or logical appeals or... y'know... numbers.
DON'T BE RUDE, THIS IS A SUGGESTION
I dunno. I'm probably the only one that gets annoyed when I see someone post this trite and random sentence.
If you find yourself about to sprout off a golden winner like "This is a suggestion, be nice." Then I urge you to reconsider.
There's several reasons why.
Possibly most importantly is, it gets on my last nerve... Alright, so that's not actually important at all.
Here's the ACTUAL reasons why.
1) Yeah, thanks jack. I would have never realized with my methodical button-presses from Minecraft general to Minecraft suggestions that people would actually post SUGGESTIONS in the forum.
Shock and horror! Yes, this is a suggestion forum, we know that. Your uncanny ability to point out the obvious may help local law enforcement, but it does nothing here.
As a matter of fact, I personally have over 5000 posts, I know for a fact that under 100 have originated OUTSIDE of the suggestions forum. When I read this statement, it's an insult to my intelligence and an insult to others.
2) You have added absolutely NO substance to the article. Not only is what you have said redundant, but it also does NOT help the suggestion. You have actually gone as far OFF-topic as is physically possible while at the very same instant defend the article you've added nothing to.
Not only is this self-defeating, but it actually HURTS the suggestion more than it helps because you've just created a tangent to pull focus away from the topic-on-hand, and onto how much of an idiot you are. Please do NOT use this sentence.
3) The objective of the other posters is to CRITICIZE and improve the suggestion. This means that we might end up having to say something that the suggester may not like reading in the effort to improve the suggestion.
By asking people to be nice, you are KILLING the suggestion as you have removed some of the only viable feedback the suggestion would otherwise receive. If you are reading this right... Heck, if you've read this far, you know what this means.
By defending the suggestion in this way, you have just become the single-most greatest enemy to this topic.
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