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    posted a message on Dolphins!
    Guardians in my opinion are way overpowered for how hard it is to combat them in the water, so it'd be great if we had sea creatures we could tame like dolphins or orcas and use them to fight against the Guardians.
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    posted a message on What do you want to see in Minecraft 1.9?
    Starting to wonder if we will see 1.9 anytime soon. Everything's been awful quiet for a while (although I know the Ebola Game Jam had something to do with that)
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from pinsMaster»
    As a non-Windows user, I think this is a bad idea.

    I don't have experience with Windows 8, but according to this thread, it does not have Java. No Java means that if Minecraft were bought, it would almost certainly have to be rewritten in another language, which means it will lose platform independency. While I realize that Java programs aren't the only ones that can be platform independent, I do know that it would take a bit of extra work to port from Windows to Mac or Linux, and that while Microsoft would be willing to invest quite a bit of money into a rewrite, chances are very slim that they would be willing to invest more into porting to competitors' platforms.

    Of course, who can know at this point?

    Making this post on a Windows 8 laptop, and I can most certainly assure you Windows 8 has Java. And keep in mind that MCPE is written in C++, MC for XBox 360/XB1 is written in C#, MC for PS3/4 is written in C++. I'm pretty sure if somehow MC went away from Java it could be handled just fine.
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    posted a message on EULA Revisited: an Updated Q&A From Mojang
    Curious why all of these people claiming that this game is going to die because of this and why this "is the last straw" but they are still around, still posting on this thread that has been going strong for months now. I mean, really, as the saying goes, *insert expletive that mods believe is offensive to the viewing audience*, or get off the pot. Or, learn to program and design your own game that you can do with what you like, and then see how easy it is to please a community that is so full of itself sometimes. My last post in this thread, may it be locked soon so we can all move on from this total non-issue.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from Aeroisticon»
    Judging by the majority of comments that I've seen on various websites (The Minecraft Forums, in particular) this is really upsetting to the community. Minecraft was a game that has grown and progressed to the point that it's worth 2 billion dollars, with help from none other than the community. If it wasn't for us, than Minecraft would perhaps be an unpopular shadow of a finished game.

    And now, it seems that Mojang, and Notch in particular, are completely ignoring what they owe their success too, in the recent deal with Microsoft. We have got Notch and Mojang to the point they are today, and in our time of need, they completely abandon and ignore us.

    I've got some news for them. I'm not going to stand for it. If you're an active member of the Minecraft community, and you agree with me, than let's get #ProtectMinecraft trending on Twitter. We cannot allow this corrupt multi-billion dollar company destroy and topple the game that we've come to care so much for. We must stand up. Because if we don't, than Minecraft is going to die. And that's something that I do not want to happen any time soon.

    #ProtectMinecraft on Twitter.

    The intensity of some people in the Minecraft community over every little thing are probably the reason Notch wants to sell and wash his hands of the whole thing. I mean, seriously, I love this game but some of the people and their knee jerk reactions to every little thing (EULA comes to mind, the moronic reaction by people in the community over this is probably what started this whole process) make me smh so often. I am not shocked or surprised by this, I guess the only thing that really surprises me is that he hung in this long. Honestly, if it was me, and this community was blasting me every other damn day for stupid , I'd probably be looking to sell too. At least he's not going all Phil Fish and self destructing but honestly tell me that with all of the drama and backlash over every petty little thing from a chunk of the community that you would not get stressed out?

    There's really nothing to protect, even if this sale goes through I can't honestly see Microsoft torpedoing this game the way many people think. They aren't run by stupid people and would not be spending $2 billion with the idea to turn the game against its community. But keep wearing the tin foil hats and keep doing the hate and fear mongering thing, at least maybe it'll get you some hits on twitter or something.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from odd718»
    i wonder how the wall street journal was able to break out the news when gaming isnt their forte.

    i would have expected kotaku or ign etc to break out the news....weird, this can only mean that it was information provided to wall street journal directly from a credible source....wall street journal is not gonna do a bait and click on gaming.........politics yeah, but gaming no

    When big deals like this are in the works, economists and lawyers are most definitely heavily involved, to vet finances, work out specifics of contracts, investigate possibilities of SEC and anti-trust violations, etc, etc. WSJ has probably built up great contacts in these areas over the years, and I'm sure someone got wind from a source about this due to these contacts. Makes perfect sense, really.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from kor11isgreat»
    Oh god no. Don't let this game be written in C. Let's just hope they make it for Linux too. Otherwise, linux users would be hopping angry.

    How ironic, this statement. Most everything in Linux is written in C. If the game were ported to C, it would be even more likely to be compatible with Linux, not less so. That being said, C itself is not really ideal for modern games, C++ if anything would be more likely but I doubt the game will be ported to any other language. A sequel being written in a language other than Java is more likely, although that doesn't mean it won't be cross platform. You can write games with OpenGL in Java, C, C++ (as well as other languages) and still have them be cross platform. If anything, it would be ideal to have the game rewritten in C++ to improve performance (that being said, Optifine has proven you can adjust code in the current iteration of the game and improve performance without switching to another language). Although, if you play Minecraft on a phone or tablet, you already are playing a version of the game written in C++. The MCPE is written in C++, not Java, fyi.

    Correction: MCPE is not the only version written in a language other than Java. I believe the XBox versions are written in C#, and the Playstation versions are written in C++. So yeah, people getting worked up over the programming language the game is written in are a little too paranoid.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from Nusku»
    A lot of people are kidding themselves in this thread...

    The Microsoft buy-out is a done deal.

    Notch was the initiator of the sell-out.

    The exact terms of the deal are the only thing up for discussion.


    Also, it's amazing how many people are already brown-nosing their new Microsoft masters.

    Look forward to yearly releases of a sub-standard product at a cost of £39.99 a pop, before they decide to wind it up when interest falls off a cliff. Not to mention a new era of no mods and no free servers.

    The boycott of Mojang starts now.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-29142975

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-09-09/microsoft-said-near-2-billion-deal-for-minecraft-maker.html

    lol people like you crack me up. Yeah let's initiate a boycott, completely devoid of a) any proof this sale will go through and b ) an assumption microsoft would screw it up and start charging omgersh $1billion!!!111 per expansion pack.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang

    No, I'm not so sure that they would reprogram Minecraft in C++. I can see them doing it in C, C#, VB, or Assembler, but not C++. C++ is quite clunky from what I've heard, and a bit hard to program in.
    However, MC "2.0" would probably be much faster, like you said. They probably wouldn't use OpenGL, and have better technical support.

    C++ is NOT clunky. A bit more challenging to develop for if you don't have experience in it, yes, but it is much better performance wise than Java (and C#). As far as being easily modded, the only reason Minecraft is heavily modded is because of reverse engineering of the code via the bytecode. In C++ the game would have to be designed to accept mods (although the lack of supported modding on C++ based games hasn't stopped modding in the past) to make it easily modded. But then a proper modding engine could be set up, instead of the hack job that currently exists. And that could be implemented for Java, C# or C++, so in the case of modding, the language doesn't matter. Also, I find it funny people would assume that if it's rewritten in C++, you would have to mod it in C++. They could implement a scripting language for modding that would probably make modding development even easier (an example of this is WoW UI mods, which are written in Lua, even though WoW is written in C++).
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    I get the feeling that there is a lot of overreaction going on here. People seem to think if this goes through that Mojang will be brought in-house and that it'll be Microsoft coders working on Minecraft, and that somehow it'll drastically change. I think they just want the IP and what has made it succeed. Granted, it sounds like Notch will leave if this goes through, but I would be shocked if the agreement didn't include some level of autonomy for Jeb and company and that they would mostly all stay on and continue to run things, with some business oversight from Microsoft.
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    posted a message on Microsoft Near Deal to Buy Minecraft Maker Mojang
    Quote from ariosos»


    This and YouTube (Microsoft would be copyrighting things left and right!) were my first thoughts after seeing a blurb on Google News. I wouldn't even be surprised if Microsoft re-wrote the whole thing in C++/C# so that it isn't as easily moddable as java files (thus requiring Microsoft's modding API, if any).

    But, didn't Notch decline some sort of buyout or something a few years ago? I seem to vaguely remember Notch not wanting to do some sort of deal.

    How does C++/C# make it less easily moddable? You do realize that WoW, which is heavily (and easily) modded in the UI via Lua, but the game is written in C++. It's actually very easy to implement modding either via the native language in C++ (Half-Life anyone?) or via a scripting language like Python, Lua, or even a custom scripting language (many examples out on the market, WoW of course being one of many). And you do realize that modding has been occurring in Minecraft without a proper API as well, right?
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    posted a message on Mods that should be in Vanilla MC
    Quote from FastCraft»
    They need optifine. I don't see why they can't just take inspiration from him and shrink some table sized. FPS++ too. Damage indicators maybe.



    The point of minecraft is now to be moddable. Surprisingly few people not play unmodded. Adding in mods would take away some of the changeability it has today.

    Agreed. No need to add in a bunch of mods out there as part of Vanilla, that's why I feel the biggest need right now is a proper mod API. Make it easier to develop for Minecraft and I think you see even a bigger proliferation of mods than you currently see, and probably even higher quality mods at that. Although I know it's not horribly hard to develop for it, as someone who writes code on a regular basis I would love to see an official API.
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    posted a message on Mods that should be in Vanilla MC
    I'd just love to see the API finally finished.
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    posted a message on Minecraft will not run on Windows 8.1
    Quote from webrosc»

    this is a drivers issue, not minecraft or java

    I had a similar issue with Minecraft after going to 8.1 and it turned out to be related to the installation of Java that I had. So that is why I asked. Always a good idea to rule out simple stuff first, but I would tend to agree this sounds like a graphics card driver issue.

    Also, with it being an upgraded system from Windows 7, I have a sneaky suspcion that this is an AMD/ATI based graphics card or chipset. From what I understand (never owned an ATI card but I do have the ability to read and remember stuff :) ) there were some older cards and chipsets from ATI that were supported on Windows 7 ATI drivers but are not supported by current Windows 8.1 ATI graphics drivers. It may be that it simply won't work with the current hardware in Windows 8, using compatibility mode or not. I hope that this is not the case in this situation, but I know that others have had this happen to them.
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    posted a message on Minecraft will not run on Windows 8.1
    Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling both Minecraft and Java? Also, what graphics card are you using?
    Posted in: Java Edition Support
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