Hey, uh since I'm not on the whitelist, can anyone tell me whats wrong with my application? I'll rewrite it, if someone points out some errors. Is it my charactar history?
I may have missed it just repost. I had to sort through 31 or so pages and just skimmed them!
Yes but questions don't usually take all that long to answer by themselves, and due to the nature of forum threads official answers can be tossed into the OP as a FAQ for a reference for later on when other people ask questions previously answered...
Not to be rude but.... Honestly Its getting really hard to wait, Kevin. Taking into account the time I spent waiting to play on the Siegecraft server and this server I've been waiting patiently for 17 days as of today. After all this waiting you can't at least throw out a status report? A quick rundown of xyz on what still needs to be completed? I imagine that after the 11 days this thread has been active for that most of the preparations have been long completed.
If there's really a lot of stuff needing to be completed then why not accept the help offered by people here? Quite a while ago I offered to help get things up and running, but y'all declined. Others have offered the same help and y'all have also declined their help.
I know you, or someone else, said that it is harder to coordinate things when you have a lot of people to work with. At the same time people aren't unreasonable to work with. Me for example. If you'd allowed me to aid with building all I'd have required was a building type, size, style, and materials and I'd be able to do the work autonomously. I'm sure I'm far from the only one capable of such a task. As far as the other things are concerned you're not the only one that knows how to code, or establish a website, or write lore, or make up the artsy stuff (banners and whatnot) that would go with the website and signatures and the other things.
There are plenty of intelligent and talented people here, and it's really hard for me to justify a long-term wait like this when there are plenty of able-bodied people willing to help get things rolling faster.
Besides.... with y'all being very hush-hush about the status of things it makes it all the more difficult to see why things are taking as long as they are to complete.
And I have been spending 12-14+ hours a day of my life working tirelessly on BOTH servers for: 108 days. I believe I deserve just a tiny bit of credit for still being sane. We're declining help because according to RP you just arrived via boat. Building anything before hand would ruin the RP. I'm sorry that I'm not working fast enough for you, but honestly: give me a break.
I do believe someone (They have a UFO in their signature, forget the actual name sorry) has already made a banner. I can make the website + Forums in under 30 minutes. We're done building and we're just working on the rules/ stuff now. Honestly it does take longer if we have to stop working to take time and answer stuff like this. Just trust that the server will open soon. 17 days of waiting is nothing compared to 108 of non-ceasing work. Oh and did I mention I have to take my finals this week? So yeah, here's what my weeks been like in case you're wondering.
Monday:
6:30 A.M.: Wake up, shower, check immortalus forums
8:23 A.M.: First period Biology, totally not concentrating on class. Instead I'm thinking of solutions to the demon issue
10:45A.M: Oh ****, I forgot my lunch money this morning because I stopped to check up on the server thread. ****.
1PM: Hungry as hell.
2PM: Home, check server thread, quick bike ride to general store for caffeine drinks
3PM-11PM: Working on server. Replying to thread, managing host, building, talking, debating etc.
Tuesday:
Same stuff
Still forgot my lunch money.
Skipping Wednesday cause it's boring
Thursday:
Holy **** tomorrow is Friday. I wanted to get the server up monday but got butt ****ed by complications. Ooops.
Up till 1A.M. Working.
Friday:
**** I've got three days to study for finals cause I've been working so damn hard.
Please understand I do have a life beyond doing this kind of stuff for all of you. It's also my birthday Monday. Maybe it'll be up then? How should I know.
Motives, values, abstract concepts such as love and fun and freedom, etc. are all subjective (meaning they vary in definition as much as people vary in individuality).
What one person wants may vary greatly from what others want. It may ruin other people's fun, but it cannot be said with certainty that, for any random individual playing as a demon, that it would ruin specifically their fun to allow some non-human into the nether. It may be very much in-line with their idea of fun.
For example:
Suppose one of the demons is business-minded and desires a bit of help for gathering stock from the nether with the aid of a non-demon business partner/associate? They couldn't just ask some other random demon to do their dealings without sacrificing some of their profits for the sake of incentives, and then there's the issue of trusting strangers and whatnot.
There are an infinite amount of scenarios that could involve a demon desiring to bring non-humans into the nether for purposes outside of corruption and the like, but that's not the point.
The point is that subjectivity is the dominating factor here.
I'm honestly trying to do what I wish with the portal being demon only. However, I don't think you guys are taking into consideration that this requires a plugin that I just can't get to work. I've been testing it for a while and it's not working yet.
1. What exactly is binding the demons together? What's stopping one demon from going off and doing whatever they want despite the other demons? Which leads to my next question...
2. Who says (at least) one of the demons couldn't be bought? It only takes one demon to let the secret go, and most everything has a price. The secret would be an informational economic good at that point; unless once one demon told someone and that someone just started jabbering about it to everyone and their mother (thus the secret loses most of its value).
3. Assuming that the demons are not 100% evil, mistrustful, xenophobic, etc. then we can also assume that these demons will make friends with people of other races. They shall grow to trust these friends. Rather than buying the secret; these friends could be shown purely out of trust. Charisma and persuasion go a long way (see: USA political elections). The motives of the friend(s) and the demon(s) involved are irrelevant. All that matters is that the event could occur at some point. The likelihood of such an event grows when you consider the number of non-demon players (not that there's necessarily a deficit of demons around).
I can revoke that with one point:
If you're playing as a demon you clearly want to be the only ones in the nether. Telling anyone would ruin your fun.
Thats what Im saying, any good minecraft player can get passed traps. It should be set to where only demons can break blocks in the temple, or something.
We'd love to do something like that. Unfortunately any plugin with zones seems to F*** up the nether. So either
A.) You guard the temple if you want.
B.) We figure out the nether plugins (Ridiculous
C.) Make the nether portal hidden, and Demons need to guard the secret? As in just not tell any outsiders.
OOOOOO aren't you big and bad? :laugh.gif:
I highly doubt they care if 1 person changes their mind. I do think its stupid to change it over this, when Its not Bethesda Game Studios doing it. They make the game, they don't publish it which is BethSoft & Zenimax (and the actual ones doing this)
I never said I was "Big and Bad" I just thought it was kind of funny. If all of us made tweets like that, which was what I was trying to accomplish, then they'd realise they made a huge mistake.
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I may have missed it just repost. I had to sort through 31 or so pages and just skimmed them!
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It's RP. You can't magically lock your chests :tongue.gif: .
We do have guards though, and locked chests leaves them out of a RP job too!
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Possibly. Suggested time per cycle? or just set it to system time?
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If you see this azor/spark, please go through and whitelist so I can have a list.
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Thanks :biggrin.gif:
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And I have been spending 12-14+ hours a day of my life working tirelessly on BOTH servers for: 108 days. I believe I deserve just a tiny bit of credit for still being sane. We're declining help because according to RP you just arrived via boat. Building anything before hand would ruin the RP. I'm sorry that I'm not working fast enough for you, but honestly: give me a break.
I do believe someone (They have a UFO in their signature, forget the actual name sorry) has already made a banner. I can make the website + Forums in under 30 minutes. We're done building and we're just working on the rules/ stuff now. Honestly it does take longer if we have to stop working to take time and answer stuff like this. Just trust that the server will open soon. 17 days of waiting is nothing compared to 108 of non-ceasing work. Oh and did I mention I have to take my finals this week? So yeah, here's what my weeks been like in case you're wondering.
Monday:
6:30 A.M.: Wake up, shower, check immortalus forums
8:23 A.M.: First period Biology, totally not concentrating on class. Instead I'm thinking of solutions to the demon issue
10:45A.M: Oh ****, I forgot my lunch money this morning because I stopped to check up on the server thread. ****.
1PM: Hungry as hell.
2PM: Home, check server thread, quick bike ride to general store for caffeine drinks
3PM-11PM: Working on server. Replying to thread, managing host, building, talking, debating etc.
Tuesday:
Same stuff
Still forgot my lunch money.
Skipping Wednesday cause it's boring
Thursday:
Holy **** tomorrow is Friday. I wanted to get the server up monday but got butt ****ed by complications. Ooops.
Up till 1A.M. Working.
Friday:
**** I've got three days to study for finals cause I've been working so damn hard.
Please understand I do have a life beyond doing this kind of stuff for all of you. It's also my birthday Monday. Maybe it'll be up then? How should I know.
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I'm honestly trying to do what I wish with the portal being demon only. However, I don't think you guys are taking into consideration that this requires a plugin that I just can't get to work. I've been testing it for a while and it's not working yet.
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I can revoke that with one point:
If you're playing as a demon you clearly want to be the only ones in the nether. Telling anyone would ruin your fun.
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We'd love to do something like that. Unfortunately any plugin with zones seems to F*** up the nether. So either
A.) You guard the temple if you want.
B.) We figure out the nether plugins (Ridiculous
C.) Make the nether portal hidden, and Demons need to guard the secret? As in just not tell any outsiders.
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as in no explosion whatsoever and no fires (this also means the only nether portal is the one in the demon temple!)
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Creepers, fire, and TNT are disabled