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    posted a message on ElectricNetwork - A Freebuild Survival Server
    Application for staff:

    IGN: Bachboy45

    Experience: I was admin on a PVP server for about 2 months. I ran a small server (As Owner) With my younger brother as well.

    Age: 14 (Nearly 15)

    Gender: Male


    Why should I be a staff member: I believe I should be a staff member because I am a community minded person and one that can relate to fellow players. As a longtime member of MineResort and Haventerrace, I know many people very well in this community and can work with others easily. I am a solid and improving builder, with particular strengths in interior design and roofing. I am on a good amount, have high-quality command skills in Minecraft, and rudimentary (But Ever-Improving) Java Knowledge.

    Admin or Mod: I do not have a preference.

    Sincerely,

    Bach.
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    posted a message on An idea I need help with on Xbox
    Quote from Tragri
    • How should I set up the RSVP from MC server to Xbox?
    What do you mean by this? If you mean how do you advertise the LIVE event, I dunno put a shoutout on the PC server or on your website.
    • How do I know who from the MC server is who on Xbox live?
    Ask them to give you their GT, then add them. Make sure when you create the world & party to set it to 'invite only'. You'll need to add the GT as a friend first.


    I meant that how should I set up that people will play? For example, should it be "Myself and server admin/owner are making an Xbox "Game of the week" first 6 to comment will be added to the list, or what?

    The problem with the 8 people in one party is it's not enough to make it a major server event. Is there any other way I can put 10-20 people from my server in the same game lobby on xbox? That would be ideal.
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    posted a message on An idea I need help with on Xbox
    So, I have some quick questions on whether or not this would be a good idea, along with some general info.

    I am thinking of doing something called "Game of the week" on an MC server that I play on. Basically it would be that everyone meets up on Xbox 360 and plays multiplayer on the "Game of the week" (GTA V, COD, etc.) however, the MC server which I play on is relatively large (20-30 people on at any given time) and I don't currently have Xbox live, (never saw the point until recently, when I really started playing Xbox.) so I have no idea how the party system works. My questions are this:
    • How many people can be in my party at once?
    • Can I name my party (servername, admin party, etc.) or will it say "Xbox live party"?
    • Can I give the server admins control on who to kick from the party?
    • How should I set up the RSVP from MC server to Xbox?
    • How do I know who from the MC server is who on Xbox live?
    Thanks for the help/ suggestions.
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from Skoardy
    Usual story, someone loses interest in something and then feels like they have to belittle it - be 'above' it. Same thing happens when people get bored of playing an MMO. Suddenly the game is home to a huge list of obvious and enormous faults that the sheeplike players still happily enjoying the game are fools for not recognising. Faults that somehow didn't show themselves all the time while the whining player put hours and hours on end into playing. Of course, irony abound at incorrectly insisting that it's a game aimed at kids and then bleating about not being allowed to act like an immature child on the server. I'd like to say this unnecessary outburst came as a surprise but since it's Bachboy, I can't.


    K thanks. Wonderful that you are thinking of me. What a great keyboard warrior you have become. I missed the part where anyone cares.

    Quote from Skiefall
    Your decision to leave the game is on you- if you don't enjoy it, don't play it. But the way you made this post left a sour taste in people's mouth about you. Saying that minecraft is for kids is entirely false. Sometimes, if you don't have anything nice to say, it's best to keep it to yourself.


    I didn't insult anyone, my opinion is my opinion. Frankly, I don't know any of you, so why would I be bothered by how people view me. Once you realize that we are on the internet, keyboard warriors like skoardy lose their power. Don't criticize me by how I act; to think that I am not aware of my actions is rude in itself.

    Quote from jaztrumpet
    Well-said, Skoardy. Bachboy, you are welcome to play or not, but don't put yourself above everyone else here.


    Jaz, you are definitely the person I respected the most. Have fun running your server, at times it was phenomenal.

    Oh and one last thing.

    I had some fun with all of you at one point. But I've just moved on.

    K thanks, Bye!
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Alright everyone, this is Bach here.

    I haven't joined the server in about two weeks or 3. Mostly just been busy. Thinking.

    Ever since the closing of tschagg, video games (Primarily MC) have lost their touch. I recuperated a lot of that fun on HT, but it wasn't the same. After my account was hacked, yet again, (I need a more secure password lol) I spent some time hacking back into it, but, I realized it wasn't worth it.

    The point is, I have much more things to do with my life than play a game that was basically made for kids. That is not a jab at any of the older players here, but, let us be honest, MC is made for kids. I have reached a point in my life where I have matured past MC, mainly videogames in general. I honestly feel like many of you invest WAY too much time into something that is essentially for fun. I felt that this server is too strict, making fun too organized. Many staff (not going to name names, they were friends) got P*ssed over nothing, and abused their powers. Some even punished or warned players for obscuring obscenities, which since tschagg has been accepted.

    I have also managed to become much more social in the past months, which is why I truly do not care and will not be a part of this online circle anymore. I have decided I value the real world more than some user; Minecrafter774, who could literally be a sexual predator or a 7 year old kid.

    Continuing on, the fact that people on this server are so emotionally invested into this game makes me laugh. It's just sad.

    Admittedly, I've sounded mean throughout this post, for that I apologize. I did like some of my time here, a lot of the time I had with you guys on MR. But I've decided it's best for me to move on, school is kicking into full swing, other reasons, etc. In a way, it's hard to leave, until you realize....
    “It is so hard to leave—until you leave. And then it is the easiest goddamned thing in the world.”

    So, anyway it was a fun ride, goodluck to you all. Have fun in your fantasy world!!
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from d3vastat0r

    Hi guys just recently i was banned from Haven Terrace for griefing 700 blocks. I am here to appiogise and am sorry for my actions. I was not thinking at the time and was exremly desperate for blocks. The abonned house was close to mine and i went over there and griefied it unware of the consquences. I love the server Haven Terrace and we all do things we regreat so i hope you accept my applogy. Jaztrumpt the owner of the server said to become unbanned u must go onto minecraft forums and say sorry. I hope u give me one last chance and i won't do it again PROMISE!!!!! D3


    Lol. Lol. Lol.

    Are you kidding! 700 blocks!


    HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA.
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    So, about the banlist

    Jaz and other staff, you have said before it is best to have a black-and-white policy towards griefing and other such offenses of that scale. As stated before, we needn't have our lovely forums crowded with the slippery slopey, (if that's a word xD) fallacious, and just generally unattractive ban appeals. The banlist is a wonderful idea.

    Now, to make sure no one's time is wasted, I have a few suggestions about the banlist.

    1: Make it list WHO banned them, at what TIME (important for the I-don't-remember-griefing type of people) and for what reason.

    2: Make it say something along the lines of "Unbannable?" and then yes or no. This is important because major offenses like griefing, hacking, etc shouldn't be worth a post on this forum, but something minor, say trolling staff for example could maybe be considered for an unban. That way people know whether they should post here or not.

    3: Link it to this forum! I know for a fact many users may get banned and just google "Haventerrace MC server" and try to find a forum/website where they can appeal. A little "Banned!" heading with instructions on what purpose the list serves/ what to do (If you can do anything) would help immensely.

    Thanks,

    Bach
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from PirateYoga



    Rubbing salt into the wound much...?
    While I agree that people need to stop spamming the forums with ban appeals, blatantly attacking one person ain't gonna do anything. Can we just end on the note that someone's unbanned or banned? Rather than keep fueling the fire. On the note of all these bannings, is there any way we can set up a banlist for users to visit if they've been banned? It'd be convenient to simply direct users who say "I never griefed who dared to ban me waaaah" to a banlist, so that they can see why, when, and who banned them. Just something to streamline it a bit more, I thought.



    Tschagg actually did that, it worked pretty well. We could set it up like he did, when someone is banned they are logged in the system and it goes to the website (Possibly a new Enjin one or a small little site [HaventerraceBanlist.Com]) or is somehow added to the forums.

    A side note,

    These forums are here to discuss what's going on, converse, for server news, and generally NOT for ban appeals. Also, agreeing with Scip, it is the staff decision on whether to unban or not, players do not need to chime in. I personally believe ban appeals aren't a great way to fill up space here, so spamming posts about them isn't going to help much, either. Besides, most have heard the same story before (See skoardy's post a few pages back) and it is normally full of so many logical fallacies I just laugh.

    Just my thoughts,

    Bach
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from MrCommand

    Well since I've been banned from the server I'm going to have some fun now. According to Scipio's 'logical' analysis of the situation, killing nine animals is the equivalent to destroying 9000 cobblestone - despite the obvious difference in time and effort necessary - . So, destroying one quartz block is the same as destroying 20 blocks of cobblestone, right? If you misclick with a god pickaxe you should be prepared to be banned! If you make no differences between players then a $++ Artisian should be banned for misclicking with their overpowered sword in someone elses farm.
    Being respectful and ethical is -as someone else said- a blanket rule. A blanket rule is used when the staff don't want to put up with players doing something which isn't technically against the rules; "you have a different opinion from me, I can't be bothered muting you and leaving you there for a while so I'll just ban you instead. Killing animals isn't explicitly against the rules, sure, it's common sense if you're actually paying attention to the game and not doing what you'd normally do in singleplayer but if you're just mindlessly walking around, watching a youtube video and occasionally looking at the chat it's unnoticeable. If you don't want a player to do something, don't use idiotic blanket rules that can cover everything and therefore make everything a bannable offense.
    On a final note that leaves me laughing until my sides hurt at times - my sense of humour is fantastic when it wants to be-. Scipio; your picture "V for Vendetta" is a very poor choice for you. You're closer to the high chancellor than V's. You're looking for any 'valid' reason to ban people, thereby not allowing them to voice their opinion or simply telling people to stop voicing their opinion. It's almost as if you, alongside the rest of the staff have a bit of a superiority complex. It's not just about enforcing the rules for you, it's about placing yourselves above others. People who make simple mistakes are shunned by you and the community who -from what I've seen and been told- feel forced to agree with you. These shunned people deserve it sometimes, that's true; but the rest of the time they're not deserving of such mistreatment. You've often said that they don't deserve a second chance which for some of the cases is right but for many is wrong. "Beneath this account there is more than a man. Beneath this account there is an idea, Mr Scip, and ideas are ban-proof." (I couldn't resist that one)

    It's a server you're running - not Nazi Germany.


    I'll make a statement that is a good general one and ties into this.

    A while ago, I tried to check into the server. I tried and tried and couldn't log in. I had made some free time for myself, so I sat there and thought.

    Why don't the staff like me? I don't break rules.

    Then I realized I break a rule very often; rule 1. Use common sense. The thing is, staff of HT are not tyrants or unfair. Honestly, they wouldn't lose any sleep about banning anyone. Command, you say it's nonsensical that killing animals= 1800 blocks grief. However, it is not the numbers that prove his point, it's the principle. One thing you lacked in your judgement (at least at the time) was common sense.

    See, Jaz and the staff have made a superb server. Great plugins, awesome community, well
    Moderated, etc. Today, while pondering my above question; I realized I must use more common sense. Which is what I fully plan to do. But, my goals aside, I believe the server is based on an underlying, almost subliminal theme.

    Positivity.

    On HT, you build great things, admire and learn from others builds, and interact in a positive, friendly way. You slaughtering the animals was a negative thing. That equates to griefing. If someone comes on to have there animals killed, well isn't that the same as breaking down there house? It's all a bad, negative thing. You see, killing animals, being exceedingly rude to staff members, griefing, they are all really the same.

    I believe I speak for all of us when I say we would like to maintain that positivity on the server. You can insult Scip all you want, you can attack me for this post, but, the reality is, you broke a rule, and were aptly punished. That doesn't keep the server a "happy" place.


    Just my thoughts,

    Bach
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from Reyeskings1



    They say "I only took one or two blocks!" THEN WHY IS THERE A WALL MISSING?!?!?? WE DON'T BAN PEOLE FOR NO REASON!!!!"



    I will repeat this, our staff is among the best in all MC. We have plugins that are, in the simplest form, counters. There is no arguing. If a staff member finds a grief with CO proof, you did it. You broke the rules, ban. Done deal. Don't take up space on our forum with your lies.
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from Lepgeck




    I don't know about other people but I quit the server because I've put a lot of time into it and didn't feel like starting over even though I had to in a grief and raid free server. :) And Skoardy, I don't recall ever lying to you guys about griefing. I knew I did it and I thought I would get away with it!


    Your thinking is redundant and illogical. You state "I didn't like being griefed" Yet you believe "I thought I'd get away with it" Sir have you heard of treat others how you would like to be treated? How can the staff let you back on when you A: Broke a rule that you don't like having done to you and B: Your opinion on the subject changes rapidly?


    The rule is, don't grief. It's not "Only 2 blocks" It's not "only 3 blocks" it's don't grief. Since you have broken that rule and then lauded the server for being grief free, how are you not contributing to the problem? Users who protect their builds, follow the rules, and are nice, community minded players often list this server among their favorite. Sucks that you missed out.

    If you could have worded your argument to a more "I know I griefed, that was a mistake and I hate it having done to me. I really would like to come back here. You may have just been jailed for retribution of your actions. Who knows? It's up to our staff at this point.


    Note: Agreeing with Reyes on this: I think I speak for all when I say HT doesn't want griefers/spammers on the server. I think forum posts about bans should be a more "I argued with someone, things got out of hand, etc." Not, "I only broke 10 blocks let me back on pl0x"

    With regards,

    Bach
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from Scipio13

    Unfortunately, Curse has come up short with absolutely no solution to the original page issue, it is a "rare bug". I will be working on rebuilding the page, fortunately the information is still there I just need to remove all the random bits of HTML coding and redo the colors etc.



    This is the exact reason I questions your, bachboy's, intentions. It made no sense to me and I still can't see any other purpose for saying it in such a grave manner besides to scare people, which is not what you say you were doing. I would still be intrigued to hear the reason though.


    Ok, I made a mistake. I have heard on twitter that MC would reset, I guess that wasn't true.

    Scip, as soon as I said that, you immediately accused me of trying to "incite a panic" or whatever you said. You are an admin. I am currently builder. You as an admin should've taken the time to just say, "Bach, that's wrong" Instead you decided to try and make me out to look bad. So yeah, I admit it Scip. I said f**k off uncensored. Sorry about that, but everyone can't be as smart as you Scip. Some of us are below the 300 IQ you think you have. We make mistakes, we are human.

    I'm also tired of starting/getting in arguments all the time. I have said I am gonna stop before, I guess it seems I'm blowing smoke.
    So, because I actually enjoy this server, I am gonna say this. From now on, "I DO NOT CARE" If "Shut up and build" is the mentality, so be it. Scip I won't bother you, I'll just keep my mouth shut because that is what most people are implying is correct. I'm not arguing with anyone in chat anymore, tbh I don't care enough, this is a video game.

    You guys made it clear when you left MR this would be a strict, orderly server. Anyway, I'm sorry for breaking rules all the time, I'll just shut up and build.


    Oh, and can Ghetto be unbanned?

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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Hey guys,

    Just wanted too say I'm muted and jailed. I don't think f**k off is worth that. Maybe a kick, but seriously.

    I was talking about 1.7, how the new biomes would force most servers to reset, and Scipio immediately thought I was trying to "scare everyone" Newsflash Scip, everyone has opinions, ideas, hypotheticals. Just because you are admin on an MC server which happens to kick
    Ass, doesn't make you god. This admin repeatedly accused me, while I said "WOW" in protest. So I said "Scip, f**k off" (I didn't censor it) and I was muted and jailed.

    Anyway, just wanted to ask to be unjailed.


    Sorry for what I said Scip, I admit I overreacted, but you can't attack people over their ideas.


    Edit:::

    Scip let me out, sorry everyone.
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Hi all,

    Just wanted to post something.

    I am an Administrator on another server. A player who was once administrator on that server, bnm70, plays on HT. When I logged in Via Minechat, he said BACH! you ****** (because the staff of the other server had banned and demoted him for abuse.) When I responded, asking him to Stop, (screenshotting) We got into a little conversation. I was not being confrontational or attacking him. After he subsided, I was hit with a 10 minute mute. Not a huge deal, I have a concern.

    1: On MR I had a reputation of a "troublemaker" something I discussed with Errer yesterday. I DO NOT want that reputation on here AT ALL. I want to be a valued member of the community, one who is respected as a builder and as a person. I was NOT being confrontational, so I am confused as to why I was disciplined.

    Again, a 10 minute man is minor, but I am just asking for clarification on what I did wrong, so I don't make that mistake again and understand how I was incorrect.

    Thanks,

    Bach
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    posted a message on [1.7.4] HavenTerrace: A Freebuild Survival Server
    Quote from jaztrumpet

    It is a testament to Snail's character, that people are immediately defending her. She is an honest, genuine person. :)

    Quote from Searinox

    Sad story, though it seems you guys got it cleared out earlier today. Just hit us others up if theres anything wrong guys! The admins have alot of work to do, so the rest of us are usually more free to help. Fairly that would count for most questions about the game and the server that doesnt involve permissions, and easygoing troubles between players. In my mind it is a serious offense to talk badly about anyone ingame nomatter how you know them. What ever you might type in, might be understood quite differently by another person - and thats often how rumours spread too.

    On a sidenote, I have a suggestion. One of the rules show a hard line on caps lock / capitalized letters. I suggest you admins change this to count on spam, requests and so on. I really have no issue with a person saying WELCOME! as it shows positive energy - and I am aware that there are several players between the ages of 10 and 15. It might be easier and more relaxing to only "warn" those that use capslock on say 10 words+ or in multiple sentances / special circumstances. Then again.. I just mentioned earlier in this very post how things might be understood differently from person to person :P Just a thought, discuss. I feel the "dont use caps" spam is more damaging to the chat than the actual couple capitalized words.


    Totally right jaz. The staff here are great.

    Andreas, I agree with you, but the problem is, we don't all feel the same about what is "excessive." Skoardy mentioned a few pages back about the caps rule, that is must be hard line to prevent abuse. Personally, I'll attempt to welcome a new player with WELCOME!
    Pleas read /rules, and enjoy your stay! If you need help, just ask. But some would feel those caps as excessive. For those who do, I feel it's best to keep the caps rule hard line, as to prevent backseat mods.
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