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Feb 5, 2015Hey, guys. I doubt that any of you here remember the first hacked client, WoM (don't bother googling if you want to use it, it's defunct anyways). WoM was awesome. It let you fly, noclip and go awesomely fast. It didn't really ruin anyone's day, because the hacked client respected MOTD flags and a simple "-hax +ophax" would've disabled hacks for everyone except operators. It was the one essential tool for any Minecrafter back in the day.Posted in: Discussion
Oh, how have those days changed.
Jul 31, 2013Posted in: Classic - Creative ModeQuote from mojojoseph
Alright, I'm gonna lay the cards on the table, I don't like classic, however, I support 4is4 for making a petition all the way all because he wanted to help someone. Like i said, i DON'T like classic, but the fact that mojang basically removed classic without giving a second thought to those who want to play classic, just makes me furious, cause I know they are better than that. Classic is what made me discover the game, its what got me hooked. All of you who are bashing 4is4 and others who support him, are being 2 year olds. Just because you don't play it, doesn't mean others don't. Just because they don't share your opinions, doesn't mean they are worthless. Some people want to play classic, some don't. I'm someone who wants people to keep their opinions if they choose to. However, when people start fighting over the opinions, that's when I step in. Those of you, bashing 4is4, just because he wants mojang to bring back classic, chill out, it isn't the end of the world if mojang brings it back. If he wants to start a petition to bring back classic, let him. Your not in charge of him, he is in charge of himself.
Good Guy Mojojoseph - says he doesn't like classic, still helps people who do.
Also, to the person saying that "not many people will play classic", this is false. I've had a server for a year, a bit more, and we've had visits from 133751 different accounts. True, 18% of them are banned, but you really can't say that nobody plays classic.
Jul 12, 2013More posts about why Classic shouldn't be brought back will be hidden for flaming/flame-baiting and infractions will be given out for them. We've heard your opinion and anybody who wants to read it can read pages 1-11. This arguing has to stop, it's only making negative vibe in the community and nobody wants that. Frankly, this server is about the petition to bring the Classic links back on the homepage, or another quick way for new members to access Classic.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
I realize it's in man's nature to argue, but this has to stop. Sadly for the counter-activists, this thread is not about what's good or bad about Classic. It's about the actual petition to bring Classic back. You can make a new thread about why you don't like Classic, but keep that discussion out of this thread.
Jul 10, 2013Posted in: Classic - Creative ModeQuote from TVfleaIt's making mojang lose money because they have to host html files they're not getting money from.
That's the thing. You're wrong. Hosting "html files" (oh god I laughed at this) costs absolutely no money. People are visiting MC.net, the cost of keeping up the links to Classic servers is so insignificant compared to how many people visit MC.net every day. It's not like having the Classic links there, on the homepage, makes their servers overwhelmed or anything. No. It all stays the same. Mojang never profited anything from removing the links from the homepage. Nobody did. It was a completely useless action which hadn't been thought out beforehand. Do you own a site, a webpage? Because it sounds like you have no idea what you're talking about.
Why are you doing this? Nobody loses from having the Classic links on the homepage. I can't imagine why you're being such an **** over something that doesn't even concern you, seeing as you've never even played Classic before. Do the links bother you? Do they get in your way? I'm sure that if you PM me, we'll figure something out, like hiding those links via some browser extension if they bother you THAT much.
Jul 9, 2013Yes. Absolutely. Please, sign this petition.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
The people who hate on Classic have no other reason other than they just want to cause conflict. It's basically flame-baiting, but don't get me started on that.
Classic is wonderful. It's actually how the game gained popularity so it could be as big as it is now. Has it occurred to any of you guys how many things from Classic servers ended up in the final product? A few things being (from The Archives alone)...
I mean, c'mon, The Archives was the first to have multiworld support. Then Notch just came on and was like "hey, this is pretty cool" and now every client has lines of code to support multiworld in servers.
And from other servers, stuff like...
Explosives, fireworks (JTE/Liam/asiekierka)
Redstone (asiekierka's power system)
It's annoying to the people who were involved. So much effort was put into Classic, at the community's expense. And then Mojang just drops classic. "Hey, we'll take these ideas, thanks."
Seems pretty bloody rude to me.
Sep 11, 2012haxxey posted a message on Official Chat Thread XII : Go away joj / Twilight of summer editionPosted in: General Off TopicQuote from FutureNyanCat
again she is back. ALL HAIL ZOOS
Why hail Zeus when you can hail Aphrodite?
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Jan 4, 2015Baratacus posted a message on Mom trying to assist her little boy...I know NOTHING about video games :)Firstly, the texture pack should be available, you just won't be able save the game unless you purchase it.Posted in: Legacy Console Support
There are two ways for your PS3 to connect to the internet, which IS your problem there.
The PS3 can connect via wireless or ethernet cable. Since it is asking for the cable, that is probably how you usually connect. In addition to the HDMI cable there should be what looks like a big landline telephone jack connector. It may just be unplugged at the PS3 side or at your router/modem side. You could also be using for some other device (like a PC) and only move it to the PS3 when needed.
Once it is connected, simply select SIGN IN from the PS3 menu (called the XMB or cross-media-browser) - usually your password is saved and you won't have to enter it.
Then you will have to go to the PlayStation store and purchase/download/install the pack.
Good luck- reply if you need more help.
P.S. There is a possibility that you haven't updated since the texture pack was introduced, in which case Minecraft will need to update as well. Once you are online, load the game and it will update automatically if needed (could take some time depending on your connection).
May 6, 2014gerbil posted a message on Why does minecraft insist on keeping its files in roaming (in the C drive)This is the windows model.Posted in: Java Edition Support
Users is where user data is kept. AppData ("Application Data") is per user.
If you don't want user data on C: then store your user profiles elsewhere.
If your C: is small, you are going to run into problems because of this eventually. Anytime you install a generic windows program "for this user only" as opposed to "for all users", it's going to be under users. Documents, Downloads, Desktop, all these things are under Users.
If you insist on fighting Microsoft's model, then you can use a batch file to reset appdata for the launcher as follows:
Put this batch file in the same directory (in D: somewhere) as minecraft.exe, and then launch minecraft with this. Then .minecraft will also be in that same directory.
Feb 2, 2012Notice: These are not rules, these are just suggestions from a former server adminPosted in: Server Support and Administration
TABLE OF CONTENTS
Wanting Staff Position
Looking for Staff
Researching an Applicant
SEEKING STAFF POSITIONS
1) Don't post in the forums that you are looking for a server to be admin on. Many good servers don't pick players from a forum and give you admin or mod. The servers that do this usually crash after a month or two, and disappear forever. You are better off joining a server and playing on it. This also shows that you are lazy usually, or that you are not able to find it anywhere else, likely because of inexperience or for reasons to which any owner would want to know beforehand.
2) Building Skills are not Admin Skills. A player's ability to build things do not make them admin material. If you say that you want to be an admin because you are a good builder, it is like saying you want to be a programmer because you are a good historian. They are not related at all, and usually admins and moderators don't do a lot of building unless the server is very new.
3) Join a server and earn it. You have a better chance of actually becoming a mod or admin by joining a server, playing on it, helping everyone, obeying rules, being respectful, and being a very good player. Joining a server and asking to be mod most likely will end up with you being kicked from the server. By joining a server and earning it, you get more respect from everyone and usually keep your position longer. And it means the others trust you more and you can do a lot more.
4) Be mature, act mature. Basically, act like an adult. Don't yell and scream at others. Don't use language that is not appropriate. Spell correctly and use proper english/language of the owner. If you do not sound mature, then you will be looked at as immature and not likely to get admin or mod. This does go for when you are not talking to them. Server owners can and will look at your past, see how you are. If you act different, then there is a chance that you are not telling the whole truth and you may likely end up not getting anywhere. Be careful, like a tatoo, posts are forever.
5) Be respectful to the owner and other admins. They control your fate on the server really. If you don't respect them , they can likely get you removed from your position of power, which would not be what you want.
So really, if you don't like something, say so in a calm way, once that shows maturity and respectfulness. As I say "Don't anger me, or you feel my wrath". That does go for players and staff by the way.
6) Be sure you know how to use plugins CORRECTLY. Many servers now need you to know how to use a lot of plugins, a few like Essentials, World Edit, Factions, Towny, World Guard, MultiVerse, iConomy, the list goes on. If you do not know how to use them, then you will probably not be able to become admin or mod on a server. If you don't know how to use them, try this: Download the latest CraftBukkit and make a Bukkit-enabled server.
Add a very basic suite of server tools/plugins: I recommend WorldEdit/WorldGuard/CommandBook to start with because they are really super simple. Get a friend to join your private server. Op them and ask them to test stuff. Until you are at ease doing this, and configuring everything to your liking, you will have a hard time being useful as an Admin. A major part of an Admin's work consists of troubleshooting game features or plugin features that don't work, or have mysteriously stopped working. If you don't understand the plugins, you can't fix the problem.
And yes being admin also means having excellent attention to detail. Don't want to comb 3 days of server logs looking for the key exception that explains why the server keeps crashing? Too bad. Don't want to take the time to fine-tune your group and permissions nodes skills? Too bad.
7) Do not nag about it. When you start nagging about it, it is just going to lower your chances of getting it. Ask once, then don't ask again until like a week later. Nagging will make it worse, and you might get muted by the staff. It is a waste of your time and does not help you in the slightest.
8) Don't expect payments. Honestly, being an admin or mod is NOT a paying job. You volunteer to do these things, and so don't expect payment. Some servers do not pay their staff while some only pay the veteran staff. Your job is to be a mod or admin, and being paid is not in the description for that unless the server owners decide they want to. Don't expect to make anything out of being a mod unless you are a very good one, in which case you should start your own server.
9) Multi-managing servers is NOT good. I don't care if you are a machine, if you are admin on 3 servers, you do not need to be admin on a fourth. The more you say you are admin on currently, you are saying you are an admin jumper, which means you are not reliable. Stay on one or two servers and stay with them until they die or you get replaced. THEN you can go out and find another server. The more you say you are currently, and the more you say you have been in the past, the more likely one might consider you a jumper, not reliable, and not one to place on staff.
10) Saying you are "good" is not good enough. What is good? If you can explain what the hell good is, then saying you are "good" is not it. Just saying good means you can't explain how little you know, and that you just think you know it. Never good. Saying "I am good, trust me", is like going up to a drug addict and him saying "I am clean, trust me". Do you believe it? No. So don't think it will work here. If you really want to say you are good, explain how you are good, what you are good at, why you are good, explain, elaborate, and you might stand a chance.
11) Use a readable font and make it look good. This means to NOT use fonts that are above 3, even above 2 unless you use the 3 for titles and such. Also do not use stupid fonts and colors, as people don't want to waste their time trying to figure out what you are saying. Make it look clean, professional, and easy on the eyes. The default settings for posting are fine.
12) Applying for a lot of servers at once is NOT a good idea. That shows you are just being a shotgun admin, not really caring, just looking for power. Apply to one, play on it, see how you like it. If you like it, DON'T apply for another server. If you are rejected, or decided you do not want it, then tell the person you applied that you do not want the position, BUT BE RESPECTFUL! That can haunt you for some time.
13) Fill out applications correctly and with details. If you see an application, FILL IT OUT THE WAY THE OP WANTS IT. They made it that way for a reason, so follow it. That means those "copy/paste" applications are bull. They show no desire. They basically show desperation. Meaning you don't deserve it. Do what the OP wants, or don't do it at all. Simple as that. If you use a CTRL+V approach to applications, then this is what it says: "I don't care at all about what you want, here is this thing". It tells that you do not care. Do it, and it will not really work out well.
For starters, make sure you check out a player's story. Don't take everything they say at face value. People will lie and cheat to get into a position of power and will be glad to tear down everything that you worked hard to make with a few commands, a flick of a finger, and the press of the Enter key. If they say something, check out other posts they have made, try to make sure what they say is true. Using a player's post count is one way to help. If they have a very low post count, but said they held a lot of position, ran their own server, or even played for a long time, then I would investigate them and make sure what they said is true.
This does not mean all low-posted players are not reliable, it just means that you should make sure it is true. High-end posters are not exempt from this. If I was to apply for a mod position, then you should check my posts, see if I have said anything in the past that differs from the app I send you. Don't get fooled by what people say. You are the last line of defense. Make sure you make it count.
- Be prepared not to play. As much as you'll always want to, you'll find there are many more pressing issues to deal with as the owner, whether it's sorting out webspace, organising the next big event, preventing grief, preventing fights or adding new features and ideas to keep the game fresh. As as admin, you have to start enjoying preparing the game for somebody else.
You no longer have time to enjoy building things, but you'll learn to enjoy getting a good RP going with a quest you've written for them, or seeing people designing awesome stuff in the land you spend the last two days preparing and protecting.
You will also notice that people will expect you to do much more than you can, and get annoying when you don't deliver on their unreasonable requests. Remember, you are there to keep it running, but not deal with their every whim - there's a place for people like this, it's called a Ban List.
- Remember that it is your server. You own the server, not Joe Bloggs who just entered. While it's important to be nice, careful with what you say and listen to people - it's equally important to remember who makes the decisions.
If somebody is trying to tell you that you're doing it all wrong, it might not be the server for them - there's a place for people like this, it's a Ban List.
- Respect your players. If you respect the people who play well, and treat each other well, you will get respect in return. That does not mean that everybody deserves respect though, there are some people who will constantly push you and try to subvert the rules. There's a place for these people, it's called a Ban List.
- Admin is not a right. It is important to recognize people who are contributing and show good leadership characteristics; whether it's giving them a few extra commands, moderator status or even just a 'Thank you'.
There will also be people who try to ask for these things, or even demand it of you. People like that have a place in this world, it's called a Ban List.
- Don't be afraid. It's easy to get worried when you make a mistake, but we all do and we always learn from them. But sometimes, the mistake can be pointed out by other players; they will tell you how they are going to report you for it, or spread bad rumors about your server if you don't listen to them. There's a place for people like this, it's called a Ban list.
- Have pride. When running a server, it's easy to take shortcuts and let shoddy work get on the server. It's ok not to be perfect, but make sure to do your best and to be proud of what you do. This includes your Ban List - don't use community list or shared lists such as McBans - you should be proud of having your own list, that you made personally.
There are players out there that claim to be with forums and are there to review your server. There is a list of things you should do.
2) Tell them that they are not
3) Mute them
4) Make sure they don't have permissions to build
5) Laugh some more
These kind of people are liars, and are not there to review. Never listen to them, and do not give them any commands, including op or all perms. Just follow the steps above, and then ban them. There are the select few that are actually legit, but don't expect them often, or even at all. They likely give you weeks notice before anything. If someone claims to be a part of a forum, just go to that forum, type their name, and see what comes up. Usually you will get nothing. Then laugh, and ban.
One thing that is sometimes overlooked as an owner is that even though you are an owner, you have to show respect to your players, your staff, and your potential staff. If you disrespect them, insult them, yell at them, or just just plain rude to them, then they might leave you, and then tell others that, which would not be good for you.
A server's rep is influenced by the owner's rep and their staff rep. A bad owner will drive players away the same as a bad staff rep's will too. A server who has the best setup will not do well if the owner and staff have a bad rep.
Reverse is also true, a poor server will not do well even if the owner and staff are well known. You have to keep you and your rep up, which means respect, commitment, willingness, and things that people expect from you. If you do not meet their expectations, you can suffer for it.
When banning people, it's not about who you like on the server. Not to ban people on whether or not you agree with their policies, interests, or views. If these things become a nuisance to overall community, then you should consider a ban, or some form of punishment. You shouldn't ban people depending on if you like them, because all that does is lose you players. It's if the community likes them. If the community would get mad about the ban, and it only happens because you disagree with them, then you make yourself look like the bad guy in that situation. Also, if they never broke any rules, people can rage about random bans. If they decide to get a few friends together, or have an alternate account, you could be the victim of some serious griefing. Also, they could go on some forums or websites (here, planet minecraft, minecraft server lists) and post bad things about your server, giving it bad rep.
When a player first joins the first impression is everything. The first few minutes often already decide whether a player is here to stay or not. To give your server a good impression can be as easy as spending some time on making a good-looking spawn point. When a new player joins, welcome him heartily, show him around on the server. Make him feel welcome, like a part of the family.
'Administrator' is your job, not your title. If you can find the time for it, play like other players. Throw all your spawned items in the lava and punch a tree. Build a house.
Of course you need to help a player when something is wrong. But why not help him as well when he is working on a large build project (with legit items of course, unless you own a free-build server).
You'll often be forced to make all kinds of decisions, like deciding how a player should be punished (this usually isn't the most fun thing to do), or whether you'll add a certain plugin or enable a certain feature for your players. First of all; you're the owner, so your decision is always final. On the other hand, you didn't create your server for yourself. You created it for the people who play on it. This means that, if the situation is appropriate, you can always ask the players about their thoughts on the subject. You could use a poll system, but when you ask them in-game or on a forum, hearing their reasoning behind their decisions may help you decide as well.
Another major issue that is seen is the applications for your staff. A good server does NOT do this:
Are you a good builder:
Y you want this:
If yours look like this, you are doing it very wrong, and expect a lot of applications that look like this...
Age: 25 (lying here)
Are you a good builder: Yes (again, lying)
Y you want this: Because I would make a good admin
That application is, to put it simply, crap. No info, no experience, and has no reason to even exist. If you have your apps set up like this, you will get trolled. Expect it.
Now, a good application requires details, time, effort, and covers alot of stuff. EX:
How long have you been on the server:
Reason for wanting this position (requires paragraph):
What you can bring:
Proof of work:
That application is much more detailed in that it requires the applicant to provide more information, and makes it easier to sort applications out and see who is more suitable for the position.
An example response that is not really acceptable can be:
Age: 21 (lying though)
How long have you been on the server: Few weeks
Reason for wanting the position: I am a fair player, i try to sort problems out while following all of the rules. I have not griefed or broken any rules. People on the server love me and so I decided to apply.
Experience: Owned my own server
Contact info: Skype - lordralex
Dedicated time: few hours a day
What you can bring: Love, dedication, help
Proof of work: None
Please accept me xD
Let's pick at this application, which is something you should ALWAYS do. A key to a good check is by going thru the player's past posts and see what they said before they applied here. If you see differences that are very noticeable, that is a very good sign that the player is lying, and who knows what else is wrong.
This does take time, but is a very good way to check a player out. For example, if I said in another app that I was 19, then you know I am lying, and you should reject this on the spot. For the time on the server, actually look at the logs. See when they log in and out of the server. See how long they play.
I could have joined 2 weeks ago, stayed for 5 minutes, left, and joined for 5 minutes every day. That is not a trait you want your admins to have. Reject. Reason for wanting this, this section unto itself is short. It is not descriptive, short, and very bland. A good application should be longer, more detailed, and be very good, you should say "Wow, that is good", not "Wtf?" Experience is another key factor.
While you should always consider those that do not have experience, don't believe a lot here as well. Check their posts. If they said they ran a server, but have 10 posts, then something is probably fishy. Also, the default answer I will guarantee you is going to be "I ran my own server". Now, why do you not? Why did you stop? Ask questions, the more you ask them, the better applications you get. A player who is lying will give crappy answers, which you can notice. A player who actually did can prove it.
Dedicated time is also a good factor. If they can dedicate a few hours a day is good. You want an active admin, one who says on for a bit of time. What you can bring is more opinionated, but can reveal a lot.
A long answer with reasons is good, not that. That is bull. Proof, make them show what they said is true. If they cannot, then they should not be accepted. Simple as that.
This is what you should be looking for:
How long have you been on the server: Started playing with the server about 2 weeks ago
Reason for wanting this position (requires paragraph): I have played on the server for some time now and I have done my best to help new players learn about the server while also enjoying playing. I have been active in the server forum asking and answering questions while also not breaking any rules. I have been told by a few people that I should apply, so I have some players support as well.
Experience (details): I have been the admin of a few servers that stopped because the owner stopped paying the hosters so they shut it down. I have worked with the Multicraft cp alot and have used Filezilla very well along with Notepad++. I have created multiple servers and can help debug plugins with my limited knowledge of Java. I have used a fair bit of plugins and know how to find plugins.
Contact info: Skype: lordralex, email: [email protected]
Dedicated time: 3 hours each day, probably 2 times a day
What you can bring: I can bring a few ideas that I had from other servers that I have been in, a new set of eyes on the current setup, and the experience of running a few servers and helping others solve their problems with servers, as well as my plugin development experience and debugging.
Proof of work: Worked with 2 servers, IPs can be sent in a PM if requested
While this is still lacking, it shows time and thought, which is something you should be looking for in any application. Although I can still lying in this app, you should still verify everything. Notice how I said I can send IPs in a PM, that is good. It means that I am not just saying "I am on this server" which can be seen as placing ads. PMs are just you and him (her if it is a her) and you can easily jump on the server at any time without warning to verify this. Always put details and facts in it, someone who is on more but fills a small app out is not as useful as one who is not on as long, but has alot of experience and time to fill something out well.
Now, we know that you can just create an thread and say you are looking for people. That is easy. But that is all not that needs to be done. Once you get an applicant, you have to research them, read into their past, see what they were. That is the challenge. You need to know how to effectively find what someone has done in the past and determine if they are worth dealing with. There are many ways to do this, however I will cover my ways of handling it.
Step 1: Check their previous bans
This is actually a very simple step. A moderator operates a site that you can use to get a person's ban history from the most popular of global ban list sites. This site is located here: http://fishbans.com/search.php This is a very nice tool to have. All you do is enter someone's name, or even a group of people, hit Submit, and see what you get.
I will point out now that the system is a bit flawed, the bans it gets do not show whether they are local or global. However, this site lets you see what they were banned, and you can determine if you should allow them.
Step 2: Check their post history
Now, this one is a bit trickier, as you cannot see everything they have posted. However, this does not mean you cannot try. Let's do this.
Now, the most simple way is to just go to their profile, and click "Find Content" and read their stuff. Yes, sucks, doesn't it? Get used to it. You will have to get used to things that you do not like. Now, you can read their posts. If they seem like a immature person but try to act differently in the app, that should be a flag to you.
Step 3: Talk with them
Just plain old have a conversation. Ask them questions. Test them. I cannot tell you how many people this will drive away. Any good staff should be prepared for this. They should be able to explain their stuff they claim. For example, if they said they worked with plugins, ask them questions about which ones, how to do x and y, what does z do. This is a good way to find liars.
1: Credit to every thread I saw to inspire me to write this
2: Credit to Crunkatog for the experiment information
3: Credit to Amazing_Kid for the nagging
4: Credit to Bilkokuya for the list
5: Credit to baggerboot for the section added to the Server owners
6: Credit to Teqx for the suggestion on the format of the thread
7. Thanks to zak561 for the ban paragraph
* These results are not typical and most players do not become a mod or admin. These are only tips on increasing those chances.
* Any information in this thread can be used on any other thread located within Minecraftforum and Curse-affiliated sites, as long as any information that is used is quoted and the maker of the thread is given credit for any and all parts of this thread that are used. This information cannot be used on any other site unless given written permission by the maker of this thread and/or the maker of the information that is being used.
Jul 29, 2013Alright, I'm gonna lay the cards on the table, I don't like classic, however, I support 4is4 for making a petition all the way all because he wanted to help someone. Like i said, i DON'T like classic, but the fact that mojang basically removed classic without giving a second thought to those who want to play classic, just makes me furious, cause I know they are better than that. Classic is what made me discover the game, its what got me hooked. All of you who are bashing 4is4 and others who support him, are being 2 year olds. Just because you don't play it, doesn't mean others don't. Just because they don't share your opinions, doesn't mean they are worthless. Some people want to play classic, some don't. I'm someone who wants people to keep their opinions if they choose to. However, when people start fighting over the opinions, that's when I step in. Those of you, bashing 4is4, just because he wants mojang to bring back classic, chill out, it isn't the end of the world if mojang brings it back. If he wants to start a petition to bring back classic, let him. Your not in charge of him, he is in charge of himself.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
Jul 11, 2013Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
Those are reasons why you personally don't like to play Classic, not why it should be removed from the internet in its entirety.
Jul 10, 2013It is true that people are entitled to their opinions. However, in this instance, I don't really see why there should be any anti-Classic posts in this thread.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
The purpose of this thread is to inform people that Classic is at risk of going away forever, and to convince them to sign a petition in hopes of keeping it up. Therefore, posts in support of Classic are acceptable here. People who are indifferent could post something like "I don't really care about Classic, and most people don't. I don't think you're going to get anywhere.", I suppose. However, even that is a bit pointless.
There is no reason to attempt to convince people NOT to support Classic. There is nothing detrimental about keeping it available. It puts no major load on Mojang at all, and, if anything, will convince people to buy the game, not provide them a route to escape from playing (it doesn't have hardly any of the content of the main game).
Posting against the continuation of Classic is just selfish. You're expressing an entirely illogical opinion there. If you think you have some facts to base your thoughts on, your facts are wrong. Some people want to play Classic. Let them. If you don't like it (as the above poster said), you do not have to play it! Its existence will not affect you in any way at all. It's just something there that some people enjoy. You don't have to involve yourself in it at all. If you're supporting the removal of Classic, you're basically saying "I don't like this game, so don't let anyone else play it!" You can convince yourself otherwise as much as you want, but in a nutshell, that's the message you send.
This thread should never have become a battleground. Those of you against Classic who are claiming innocence -- that you were simply expressing your opinion, and were attacked for it -- are the root of the problem. Yes, those of us supporting Classic have fought back and fed the flames, but had nobody come in with the intent of bashing Classic, this never would have happened. The only people who should be in this thread are those who are supporting Classic, because there are only two logical opinions here. You can support Classic, or you can be indifferent. If you're indifferent... well, you're indifferent, and you have no reason to post here. If you're posting against Classic, not only do you not belong here; your opinion is either based on faulty facts, or you just want to aggravate others.
Would you walk into a room full of people who like a certain type of food, and start loudly bashing that particular food? I hope not. Would you expect them to sit idly by and listen to/consider what you had to say? I really hope not. It's entirely pointless to do something like that. Those people clearly are not going to listen to you; they're just going to yell at you. You're in there for NO REASON (does their appreciation for that food affect you in any way at all? nope) attacking their beliefs.
This isn't a debate thread. The title isn't "Should Classic Stay?". It's "SIGN THIS PETITION TO SAVE MINECRAFT CLASSIC". This is an advertisement for a movement to save a game. It's not meant for argument, especially considering how stupid it is to be anything other than in support of Classic or indifferent.
You're claiming that the world is flat in a room with a globe...
Jul 11, 2013I don't know why people compare 1.6.2 to Classic. They are so far off that they are basically different games. I play them for completely different reasons. When I want to just relax, maybe build a bit, go on classic and mess around. If I want to kill stuff and survive, I go on SMP servers. When I want to mess ith redstone and build super projects, I go on creative mode on 1.6.2. They are totally different games in my opinion and comparing them is not a good idea. Classic has more to offer than you guys may think. It seems like by your comments that most of the negative posters have never been on a good classic server, or played multiplayer Classic at all. The softwares on classic make servers easy to set up and maintain and they offer a lot of commands, not only for building. On certain classic servers you can do a ton of building commands to help build, chat, mess around, and you can play games like Lava Survival, Zombie Survival or Gun Battles. My server has Team Deathmatch games that create teams and keeps full stats of kills/deaths and has customizable game options. Classic servers can have much more to offer than meets the eye. Also, most Classic servers are not "buggy" really. There are some things that are bad like not being able to place on bedrock, but really the main problem is the Java thing. The first time I ever went on a Classic server I fell in love with the game and I still like it better than SMP. SMP servers are always too serious and you never have time to just sit and build. Creative mode 1.6 servers are kind of fun I guess, but they have much less to offer than Classic imo and the building commands (WorldEdit) are more difficult to use than the ones in Classic. There are many reasons to keep Classic. If you don't like it, oh well, it isn't for you. But there is no reason to want it to go away just to deprive people of a game that they like. And despite many claims here, many people DO still play Classic.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
Here is the link again for people who are interested:
http://twitition.com/p66zh Please sign the petition to save classic!
Jul 10, 2013Honestly, people hating on classic, GO AWAY.Posted in: Classic - Creative Mode
Seriously. There is no reason not to keep classic. As Aphrodite has pointed out, it costs pretty much no money, and Mojang makes so much money that it's minuscule and doesn't matter.
And the big one: Prepare yourself, this will blow your tiny little minds:
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PLAY CLASSIC.
There is no reason to remove it. You do NOT have to play classic. Keeping classic does NOT hurt you in any way, shape, or freaking form.
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