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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    span>The five things you mentioned are all subjective. To me, the rabbits look fine. If you look at the other animals, there is some gradient in the texture, rabbits seem to be colored like someone just made streaks with the pencil tool and said 'good enough'. Even if most textures in the game are simplistic, they still have 'texturing', the slight variance of shade. that is subjective. you say they look bad, i say they look fine. Experience did not become item oriented, it merely added a cost, with a preview of what you'd get to balance it.I do think it's kind of neat that lapis is involved in enchanting, however, this creates a problem for servers. Enchants become a limited resource and this causes more reliance on already-busy moderators to deal with it. The funny thing about my view point is that, even with that limited resource, I feel enchanting is way too easy, experience is pretty much a pointless thing now (punch one animal in the face and you can get a level 30 enchant). The first system, yeah, getting 40 some levels was ridiculous, but I felt the second system was a balanced approach to that. Then Mojang finally got annoyed by 'lapis is useless just like many other things' and decided to use it in there. leveling is hard, even in the old system. Lapis makes it cost more, as well as levelling takes longer. its always been hard to level in minecraft. how have you found it easy? And the thing about enchanted books... what? Please work on your grammar. And the new food items are only trying to make minecraft more realistic. i remember when everyone was complaining that sheep didnt drop mutton when they should. now that they do, people say that minecraft is now too easy. So which is it? Do you want mutton or not? You're confusing me. Adding anything is about if it has a reason to be there. Every food had it's own niche, whether it was being hardy, being in a special potion recipe, or being easier to access and therefore lower quality. it was added so that people wouldnt complain anymore about it. And how have villages become more complicated? villagers now collect and replant crops, and cobble spawns under gravel are the only village updates i can find. How does that make anything any worse? I kept tabs for a long while trying to figure out how villages worked when they first started out with the whole 'in front or behind door', 'has to be. the heck does that mean?

    About the bugs, mojang put near the bottom of the update list, in some way or another, "Many many bug fixes". They may not have spent weeks devoted entirely to fixing bugs, but at least they did fix some. Be grateful for once that your minecraft is a little less buggy. Once again, major releases should be fixed until they have very minimal bugs and this is a practice they used to do, they stopped doing it and it makes it a little difficult to enjoy the game at times. People have to update servers and other things all the time because they come out with a new release for every bug fix when the version was supposed to be stable in the first place. They let eagerness get in the way of a stable update by releasing them pre-maturely. We aren't talking about snapshots or pre-releases, were talking about 'stable' releases. they have a system where users submit bug reports. its our fault they didn't fix as many bugs as we wanted because not enough of us went on to look for bugs.

    Lastly, concerning the "Big additions", that term is completely subjective. without a standard definition you and i could debate its meaning for weeks upon weeks. I would say changing something isn't really an addition, and there was mostly things being changed in this release. Other than that, it is true that it can be subjective. no response, none to give.and about the time it took to make this... Do you know what happened at mojang while they were developing 1.8? Do you know what it took to code what they were implementing? do you what notch and jeb had going on in their personal lives? Do you know what they did to fix the bugs? I would think not. Therefore, you have no right to put a time limit on updates. Think before you complain. One should not add things to the game for the sake of saying 'yay, you get more features now'. If they actually ran out of good ideas it would be fine for them to stop adding to the game. The fact that they keep adding things after they ran out of original ideas and just copy and paste whatever the community comes up with is getting a little nutty. Things like the Wither are incredible and very original, things like making sheep drop mutton are simply the devs catering to the idiots of the crowd. oh, and i suppose, banners, sea temples, guardians, red sand, coarse dirt, and many other things are unoriginal too? at least half of the new implementations in 1.8 are new.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Quote from KyoShinda»

    Are you serious? The rest of those aren't really features. Every single one of the five things I mentioned ruin a large portion of the game for me. Being able to put buttons on ceilings isn't going to be making me beg to continue playing the game.

    You seem to be looking at this from a very narrow numerical point of view. I mean sure, you yourself can say the update is grand if you don't have a problem with the things I mentioned, but they make me want to stay in 1.7.

    When it comes to bugs, it's about what they effect and how many are left, it's not about how many they fixed. Hell, they used to spend a week or two before releasing each major update to fix most or all of the major/annoying bugs. We're getting used to accepting mediocre additions to the game. In my opinion, instead of even doing 1.8 they should have solely focused on the API because the amount of junk they added far outweighs anything to be legitimately gleeful about.

    Once you think about it, the only 'major additions' to 1.8 were the rabbits and the underwater temples. Just look at 1.2, they added jungles, ocelots, redstone lamp, iron golems, enchants for bows.. and when you look at any other major update they'll have a list about that long. Considering how long this update took, they should have added about 20 major things. Minecraft is burnt out.

    The five things you mentioned are all subjective. To me, the rabbits look fine. Experience did not become item oriented, it merely added a cost, with a preview of what you'd get to balance it. And the thing about enchanted books... what? Please work on your grammar. And the new food items are only trying to make minecraft more realistic. i remember when everyone was complaining that sheep didnt drop mutton when they should. now that they do, people say that minecraft is now too easy. So which is it? Do you want mutton or not? You're confusing me. And how have villages become more complicated? villagers now collect and replant crops, and cobble spawns under gravel are the only village updates i can find. How does that make anything any worse?

    About the bugs, mojang put near the bottom of the update list, in some way or another, "Many many bug fixes". They may not have spent weeks devoted entirely to fixing bugs, but at least they did fix some. Be grateful for once that your minecraft is a little less buggy.

    Lastly, concerning the "Big additions", that term is completely subjective. without a standard definition you and i could debate its meaning for weeks upon weeks. and about the time it took to make this... Do you know what happened at mojang while they were developing 1.8? Do you know what it took to code what they were implementing? do you what notch and jeb had going on in their personal lives? Do you know what they did to fix the bugs? I would think not. Therefore, you have no right to put a time limit on updates. Think before you complain.
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    posted a message on Microsoft/Mojang Deal Confirmed.
    My biggest concern is how Mincecraft will be affected. First off, the youtubers. They're allowed to post videos on youtube and all that... so long as you dont make money from it. Which is a problem, considering there are some people that literally live off of making minecraft videos. Another thing is modding. And im paraphrasing here, but microsoft has a policy that essentially states: "You are not allowed to access the source code of any Microsoft game in order to add or alter content." AKA modding. One solution is for modders to break away from minecraft and make their modded versions their own games, as CivCraft has done already. But honestly, i dont see how microsoft will be able to keep the community alive without bending or changing their own rules.

    Thoughts?
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    posted a message on Interest check: You decide!
    Bump, b/c we need more votes.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Quote from Cheeyev»

    I'm not even remotely close to saying that. Stop twisting what we say, we understand what opinions are and don't need a reminder on it. The update was already stupid enough (E.G. the godawful endermites and 1'st grader's bunnies, the Armor Stand that really needs a facelift, the inconsistent types of stone and ores (The fact ores still only appear within stone is really bad since the Granite and other rocks replace the ores), etc,) for us, and I'm not going to even update for this unless it's for Mods. I think I'm going to quit playing Minecraft soon, but I'll still lurk around here.


    Quote from Cheeyev »

    I'm not the butthurt one, you're all are, and me and the other hates just have a thing called 'common sense'.


    Quote from grnmachine»Oh my god... i dont even...

    Listen. Sit down and shut up for a few moments please.

    You think you're so right, dont you? and because you're right, everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Well let me tell you something.

    I am not wrong. You are not wrong. NOBODY is wrong in this matter. You know why? This is a matter of opinion. NOBODY can be wrong when opinions are the subject matter. And my opinion is that this update is good. And the common sens part? Let me show you how all the non-haters can have common sense, and make good and valid arguments too.


    You and the other haters are pretty much bullying anyone who disagrees with you, by implying i dont have common sense, in the second quote. The fact that you do that practically denies the possibility of me or anyone else who likes 1.8 of having intelligent thought and opinions in your eyes. By no means am i stretching what you're saying. Just showing you how one thing influences another.

    Good night.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Quote from pefan»

    i can clearly see you haven't read many of my past comments, i for one have been saying what you said (not the quoted stuff) but that every one who dislikes this update is entitled to there opinion. but on the other hand i am just as bad as you for the fact that i did not read your post which you did make a valid argument but others that i will not name have not.

    this thread has no reason to be locked and if it is then i guess saying your opinion on the internet is wrong

    Im not saying this thread needs to be locked for expressing an opinion, im saying it needs to be locked because its tearing the community apart. Just look at us. ignoring each others posts and replying with no reason or meaning. Some, in fact probably most of us, are intelligent, but the original post/subject has sent us into a blind rage. That is why i want this thread to be locked.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Quote from Cheeyev»

    I'm not the butthurt one, you're all are, and me and the other hates just have a thing called 'common sense'.



    Quote from pefan »

    i support you cheeyev, these other minecraft elites fan boy take nothing you say into consideration and lack to make good valid argument

    (The second quote was edited in afterwards cause they're on different pages, sorry.)

    Oh my god... i dont even...

    Listen. Sit down and shut up for a few moments please.

    You think you're so right, dont you? and because you're right, everyone who disagrees with you is wrong. Well let me tell you something.

    I am not wrong. You are not wrong. NOBODY is wrong in this matter. You know why? This is a matter of opinion. NOBODY can be wrong when opinions are the subject matter. And my opinion is that this update is good. And the common sens part? Let me show you how all the non-haters can have common sense, and make good and valid arguments too.
    Quote from grnmachine»
    Let me summarize everything that people are complaining about and respond.

    1. "Armor stands are from bibliocraft! Mojang stole it!"

    Bibliocraft did not invent the armor stand, nor did they copyright it. I agree it was a disrespectful move, but mojang did nothing wrong. And at least we have armor stands without having to add a mod.

    2. "This update is causing lag!"

    No. This update reduces lag. Increased lag is a result of something happening on your side. Minecraft does not have increased lag in 1.8.

    3. "The commands are useless!"

    Bro r u srs. That statement requires ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. Mapmakers and builders will both benefit from these.

    4. "But it took too long!"

    Do you work at Mojang? Do you know what notch and jeb have happening at their personal lives? Do you know every single thing that happened at Mojang during the development of 1.8? I would think not. So you have no right to put a time limit on this.

    5. "Yeah but everyone who likes 1.8 is stupid."

    Once again, a statement like that takes ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. I like 1.8. I scored above average on all of my SoL's last year. Saying that just because someone has one trait does not necessarily mean that another trait comes along with it unconditionally. In fact, saying that everyone who likes 1.8 is dumb is saying that every horse is white just because its a horse.

    6. "I still dont like it though."

    And theres nothing i can change about that. Thats your opinion, so just keep it to yourself. My mom once told me, "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all." I think we all need to respect that rule.

    If that doesnt express common sense and intelligent thought, then i dont know what can.


    This thread needs to be locked. Soon.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Let me summarize everything that people are complaining about and respond.

    1. "Armor stands are from bibliocraft! Mojang stole it!"

    Bibliocraft did not invent the armor stand, nor did they copyright it. I agree it was a disrespectful move, but mojang did nothing wrong. And at least we have armor stands without having to add a mod.

    2. "This update is causing lag!"

    No. This update reduces lag. Increased lag is a result of something happening on your side. Minecraft does not have increased lag in 1.8.

    3. "The commands are useless!"

    Bro r u srs. That statement requires ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. Mapmakers and builders will both benefit from these.

    4. "But it took too long!"

    Do you work at Mojang? Do you know what notch and jeb have happening at their personal lives? Do you know every single thing that happened at Mojang during the development of 1.8? I would think not. So you have no right to put a time limit on this.

    5. "Yeah but everyone who likes 1.8 is stupid."

    Once again, a statement like that takes ignorance on an unfathomable level to comprehend. I like 1.8. I scored above average on all of my SoL's last year. Saying that just because someone has one trait does not necessarily mean that another trait comes along with it unconditionally. In fact, saying that everyone who likes 1.8 is dumb is saying that every horse is white just because its a horse.

    6. "I still dont like it though."

    And theres nothing i can change about that. Thats your opinion, so just keep it to yourself. My mom once told me, "If you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all." I think we all need to respect that rule.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.

    Actually, as a game dev, the different aspects of the update should have only taken a couple months at most. 1 year was ridiculous considering most of the features are mods already.

    Do you know whats going on at mojang? Do you know what notch and jeb have going on in their lives? do you know the workload or the amout of code it took to write this update? I would think not. Therefore you have no right to put a time limit on minecraft's updates.
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    posted a message on [1.8] I am disappointed.
    Quote from Knochenbowser
    GG Mojang, you just ruined your own game by shutting down a mod that allowed lot's of people to play the game without lags.

    Site this please. Optifine does not infringe the new EULA, and therefore, unless it were added to minecraft, mojang has no reason to shut it down. So unless you site it from an official source, the above post is pointless.

    Lock this thread please.
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