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    posted a message on Eloraam's Mods (RedPower 2 Prerelease 6)
    Quote from hulduet

    Windmills are pretty op. Kinda like water mills from IC2, alone not very good... but when you start making areas of these, things kinda go out of hand. It's basically free power which can be converted to BC, no longer will you need forestry or transformers to do it. Cheaper and far more efficient way.



    Not everyone shares your enthusiasm. RP2 frames were and are still op. People often talk about "magic" blocks ruining the game, like the quarry from BC. The frame is a perfect example of a block that is just way too powerful. It's not up there in the opness along with computercraft turtles, but it is not far away.

    RP2 has a lot of nifty machines and tools that help the player but the frames... they really should go. Kinda reminds me of EE2 and condensers/collectors, basically they're just op and that is why people like them.


    Are you for real ? The new windmills for RP2 unreleased edition have blades that wear out and need replacing.

    Comparing RP frames to a magic block like a BC quarry or worse still EE2 items proves you don't have much of an idea about game balance. Further more you don't have much of a clue about what is overpowered (OP) and what is just a high end item.

    People like frames because it allows you to make any manner of moving machine, from a simple tunneling machine to a airship, an elevator, or even a 5x3 door. Its about being able to build a machine to your own design, instead of a magic block.

    RP2 frames need:
    1. a lot of wood, copper and tin to make the frames themselves, each block is rather expansive and you need about half a stack min to make anything.
    2. framemotors, 2-4 per direction you want to move. Uses up copper, iron, silver and nikolite, requires a tool made from diamonds
    3. bluetricity cables, batboxes, solar panels. Needs a lot of power generated and stored to move, expect to run out of nikilite making the panels.

    If you's actually made this stuff legit, you'd know all this.
    Posted in: Minecraft Mods
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    posted a message on Eloraam's Mods (RedPower 2 Prerelease 6)
    Quote from Letrange

    Most of you guys are loosing sight of the fact that MineOS itself is written in 65EL02 machine code. To truly open things up we'd need to develop something like DOS and a pack of tools (or UNIX and a pack of tools - although the 65EL02 and the RP2 Computer being limited to 64k puts a mighty big crimp on the ability to do something like UNIX since the ratio OS/Free space needs to be fairly low for a computer to be useable.

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    Once Eloraam implements interrupts on her processor, I think someone will work on coming up with a basic DOS style OS to which he or others can add small utility programs (like say a shell, assemblers, linkers/loaders, line editors etc...) Once we have that we can go ahead and make more advanced tools (like say compilers and interpreters, yacc - since hand writing the parsers for a compiler is a royal pain in the ass) at which point we'd have something more powerful than CC


    Forget all this modern junk the software industry *thinks* we need to write software. DOS is a pretty poor command line compared to what existed on other platforms.

    Eloraam stated somewhere the point of her computer is to be a basic machine that isn't going to strain large servers. Redpower is using FORTH running inside a game (Minecraft), running inside a Java Virtual Machine, running inside an actual computer, why complicate things by adding more layers.

    The usual software development platform for 6502 based microcomputers (c64 uses the 6510 which is the same thing functionaly) was a choice of:
    1. BASIC for ease of programming
    2. 6502 machine code for speed. Usually written in OP codes, then the block of memory saved to disk as pure machine code.

    Unlike modern processors (sole exception being the ARM series) the 6502 OP codes are easily learnt buy actual humans.

    What is needed is simply some basic OS commands and a BASIC runtime interpreter with inbuilt 6502 OP code. I have a plan to make one, but have some minecraft mods to finish first.
    Posted in: Minecraft Mods
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