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1) In game name: crazybobl

2)Age:14

3)Location: California, USA

4)Purpose for joining: I felt that nearly everything added to the game after 1.7.3 collectively degraded the simplicity that made Minecraft so great. I want to experiance what Minecraft multiplayer was like at it's peak.

5)MCBans URL/Profile: I'm not quite sure what you're asking for here, but I'm guessing it's my MCBans profile.
https://forums.mcban...2267-crazybobl/

6) No idea.

Why are there no powered rails? They were added before 1.7.3.

You guys only got one? They aren't that rare are they? I get one every few skeleton kills

Hehe small world. I recognize those admins. Before I downgraded to 1.7.3 I was a regular on the server that Spikeycat is banned from. I must say that it's out of the ordinary for Kris not to have proof, but when you ban as many people as she does on a daily basis a slip-up is bound to happen eventually.

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whitelist me please:gamemasterlink

Someone didn't read the OP.

Ron Paul or Gary Johnson. /thread

Welcome to the real world, jackass!

Haha, it's good thing I wrote my coords down. I didn't see that ^ before I logged out of the game.

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YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO JOIN NOW, CRAZYBOBL


YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU'RE RIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THEM IN THE ITEM LIST. I MIGHT HAVE MISSED IT SINCE THEY *WERE* INDEED ADDED IN b1.5. YOU CAN TRY TO CONFIRM IT... I REMOVED IT FROM THE 'NO' LIST JUST IN CASE. I DIDNT SEE IT THOUGH.

YOU ALSO GOT THE PROFILE RIGHT (MCBANS) THANKS FOR THAT.

HOPE YOU ENJOY PLAYING.

EDIT: WHOOPS! LOOKS LIKE YOU WERE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. FROM THE WIKI: "Powered Rails are no longer being powered magically without a power source."

Thanks!
I forgot to mention earlier that when you look this thread up on google you can only see "SERVER IS DOWN FOR THE MOMENT" under the link. You might want to switch the online and offline message's places to avoid confusion.

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"So, I was mining today and stumbled upon beautiful natural glowing crystals in an underground ravine!"


"...Then I investigated a red glow I could see creeping through a tunnel shaft and found myself in the middle of a zombie hive! o__O"



Well, those are some of the things we could be saying if colored glass and colored light were added to MC!
(images above are not real screenshots. They were Photoshopped by me to show what MC could be like if this topic's proposals were implemented)

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[NOTE]Colored light and glass is something I believe all minecrafters should be able to enjoy with each other without the midleman or knowledge of mod installing. So for that reason, this suggestion is directed towards vanilla. We do however welcome mods here since it's said that "Colored light isn't possible." -_^

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Here is how it could work:

Color Glass Blocks & Changing The Color of Light


Colored Glass and Colored Light are features I have wanted to see in Minecraft for some time. I wanted to see these features implemented so bad that I have come up with some ways it could be used in the game; it would greatly increase building potential and the ability for a player to customize an atmosphere by modifying the color of light. Based on my knowledge working in the game industry as an indiegame digital artist, I know that the impact something like colored glass and light would have on minecraft would be more important than most people know. In fact, it may even be safe to say that even Mojang underestimates the aesthetic importance of colored light and being able to manipulate it.
Here is a little diagram that briefly explains my proposition:





Here is a colored light mod that CptSpaceToster in a video spotlight! check it out! (ehem you too mojang -_^) colored light IS possible and it IS necessary this video shows that:



Here is a different crafting recipe that was originally suggested by ChadGarion25. It is fantastic and gives cauldrons an actual use.



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Cool Ideas by you guys -_^:

TL;DR: Just read the whole thing.

I know about the new features. And I do admire them:

• 1.3: villager trading, temples, commands in SSP
• 1.4: not sure about the Wither, but now I almost never play anything 1.4 and above without detailed tooltips
• 1.5: I liked the new redstone components.
• 1.6: Putting horses aside, I enjoyed playing with the Health Boost effect, and fighting the now-more-difficult zombies.

However, ALL of these updates were worse than Beta (and I don't mean the horrible Beta 1.8 update, or anything after that). The terrain overhaul removed more features than all updates from Beta 1.8 to Release 1.6 added. There is no point in exploring, just searching caves for ore.
I started playing in Release 1.2.5, actually. But don't call me a noob. I know how pre-1.8 terrain looked, by personally playing with the 1.7 jar. I once made a journey from 1.2 to 1.7, over a course of, say, 8 km, and was more entertained by that than playing a single survival world from Release 1.4 to 1.5. The old terrain was unpredictable, knowing no bounds concerning height by biome, and logically placing them. The new one is repetitive, completely mundane, and unrealistic. Here is a list and description of the current Overworld biomes, for example:

• Forest: Oak and birch trees in approximately equal ratio; occasionally produces 10 m-high hills, but flat most of the time.
• Desert: Sand surface, cacti, dead bushes, flat. Villages and desert temples.
• Taiga: Spruce trees, snow.
• Swamp: Hideous grass, oak trees with vines, many mushrooms, slimes, mostly shallow water. Witch huts.
• Ice Plains: Snow, occasional oak trees.
• Plains: Lots of tall grass, villages. Sometimes a small forest will generate within a plains biome.
• Jungle: Very hilly; however, not reaching heights of Extreme Hills; Jungle Trees with cocoa beans, ocelots, "shrub" trees.
• Extreme Hills: Large, chewed-up terrain, with the occasional oak tree.
• Ice Mountains: Same as Extreme Hills, only with snow.
• Ocean: A vast expanse of water; occasionally, small islands will generate, sometimes with oak trees.
• Mushroom Island: Mycelium; mountainous; only Mooshrooms spawn naturally, huge mushrooms.
• River: A stationary divide of water.
• Beach: //replace grass,dirt sand
• Hills: forest, desert, taiga; never goes as high as extreme hills.

Real terrain isn't like this, and real terrain doesn't put taigas next to deserts. Real terrain has tall mountains in most biomes; it has lakes; it has rivers (although Beta didn't). Also, real terrain is taller, but let's not discuss Cubic Chunks right now.

The old generation used Perlin noise to control land, temperature, and humidity. Because elevation is not dependent on temperature or humidity, one can find mountains anywhere, and one can find flat land anywhere. In addition, the temperature and humidity control means logical placement of biomes, as well as smoother transitions between, say, forests or plains. Beaches were usually well-formed, and caves didn't generate everywhere, although finding a large one was entirely possible.

So until Mojang puts real effort in improving terrain (as opposed to merely adding new biomes and structures), I will play mostly Beta. And I know that 1.7 will merely add new biomes and structures, or my IGN isn't Fluffy8x.

And now I must introduce another topic: horses.


Riding pigs had been a novel method of transportation; while pig-riding is not unknown in reality (see image above), I don't know any other game in which you can ride pigs. Unfortunately, pigs were not effective even after 1.4; they required carrots on a stick, and those have a short lifespan. They are slow and unresponsive. Mojang could have solved this problem by increasing the durability of carrots on a stick, or better, allowing the player to tame them, as well as making them faster and more responsive. What did Mojang do? It added horses. You know, the mounts found in half of video games. Now pigs cannot compete with any other passive mob (except bats): cows drop as much meat plus leather, and are easier to breed; horses run faster than pigs and don't require carrots on a stick; chickens drop feathers; sheep drop wool. Pigs might as well have been removed.

And last of all, Mojang can't even develop Minecraft properly. You know what I said about the new terrain generation: it's ugly, it's repetitive, and it's unrealistic. It seems that it made the change out of pure laziness. Then many people called Mojang to look at the issue of terrain, and the developers, over the course of the largest thread concerning this change, either ignored the problem or promised to solve it in a way that doesn't work, including sliders (which are effectively cheating), new biomes (which, done improperly, don't reduce repetitiveness), or new structures (as in 1.3 and 1.4, but every desert temple is the same, and every jungle temple is the same, the only difference being the loot). And don't forget how it released a laggy 1.5 version to THE PUBLIC. I'm fine with some lag being in the snapshot, because, well, it's a snapshot. But FPS issues should be caught at least in the prerelease. And the FPS issues in 1.6 is, to this date, not solved. So I have to rely on Optifine to play 1.6 smoothly. The Plugin API is bound to slow the game down even more; I suggest that Mojang abandon the idea altogether. A modding API is no use when half of the players can't even play the game anymore.

Solutions? Remedies?
Mojang should stop developing Minecraft altogether and allow (encourage) more competent programmers to improve it. We've given enough second chances; we know that four inept developers cannot be trusted to a game played by eleven million.

Thank you for reading, if you read this far. I will play Beta 1.7.3 90% of the time until Mojang relinquishes control of Minecraft or at least stops screwing it over.

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Just because you have the right to voice your opinion doesn't mean you need to scream it everywhere, Mojang knows about the bugs and they are trying to fix them, Mojang knows that you hate the new hunger system and that you think it is wrong just because you hate it when the game is hard, and they don't care because you are all acting like whiny little brats. Mojang doesn't need to take this crap.
You want Mojang to listen to you? Then don't post things like the OP did. Look at the issues without bias and use logic. For instance, the OP was crying about horse armor and name tags only being found in dungeon chests, just because you are scared of cracking open a little room with a wimpy monster spawner doesn't mean Mojang needs to cater to you only and make the game ridiculously easy where you can just hid in your little hole and craft everything you need. And what he said about the hunger system! Do you have any idea how easy it is to get food in minecraft? Making health regen take up food points make a lot of sense and it really doesn't change how long your food supplies will last.

THEY ALSO FIXED THE SPRINTING BUG THE DAY THE OP POSTED THIS.

I could talk forever about the flaws in this post, but I won't.

Please, continue. I'd love to hear more about the "flaws" in my post. A post which did not contain my own personal opinons about the new changes (and all you discussed was the new changes), but was a response to someone who was talking about this thoughts on the community's response to the 1.6 update. I don't believe I ever mentioned the new hunger system, or horse armor, or nametags. I also don't believe I made a post similar to the OP's. So you're really way off the mark right there.

I do want to discuss about what you said on making the new material dungeon loot. The main concern among the community with saddles, horse armor, etc. not being craftable is not because they don't want to find a dungeon, like you tried to make it seem. This shows you don't even understand the other side's stance. It's because getting those items will be extremely difficult in SMP servers, or maps where generated structures are off (plenty of servers turn them off to prevent mob farms and looting). It also makes the horse somewhat useless. What use is a horse if you can't get the supplies needed to use it?

I also find it highly amusing that you posted in bold, "look at the issues without bias and use logic." Perhaps you should take your own advice, since the majority of your argument is completely opinion based and does not use any real facts and made-up scenarios (such as the dungeon one).

Another thing is, the OP mentions several times that the addtions are only tedious. That doesn't necessarily mean they are difficult or a real challenge. Hunger for example. When you do have a large supply in the later game, it becomes only a nuisance and not a real challenge. Again, you seem to not understand that is the argument the other side is making. Not that food is hard to get. (Saying food is easy to get is another example of an opinion in your argument, which is filled with many).

"...you are all acting like whiny little brats. Mojang doesn't need to take this crap."

Hmmm, where have I heard this before? Please, if you're going to resort to name-calling and not "look at the issues without bias and use logic," then maybe you shouldn't post

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To all the complainers out there: DEAL WITH IT
Mojang doesn't have to take this crap from you. They made the game and if you don't like what they're doing, you can just uninstall and never look back. They don't even have to develop the game for you ungrateful brats anymore. They're rich and they can just focus all their work on Scrolls.

You can refer back to my first post in this topic if all you want to say is 'Deal with it." It's seriously a wonder how people don't read through a topic before posting. News flash, you aren't the first person in this topic to say "deal with it," and I've already said why that "argument" (if you can even call it one) is pointless and does not contribute to anything.

Here's a few more quick facts for you: We have a right to our own opinions too. We're players of this game and customers of Mojang for buying their product. We have a right to say what we want about it. And Mojang kind of does need to listen to its community if it wants to continue its success, every good company listens to their consumers/audience. That's how they keep making money.

Also, no, they don't have to develop the game anymore if they don't want to. But that just means Minecraft will eventually grow old and die out as more and more players get tired/bored of it without any new content or bug fixes. That also means Mojang will lose it's biggest money maker. Updates keep Minecraft appealing, and contribute to it's growing number of players and sales. If they don't want to update, fine, but ultimately it's a lose for them more than it is for the player.

By the way, they're rich because we, the community, spent our money on their game. And that'd be a real smart move for Mojang to focus entirely on Scrolls, a game that doesn't have half the success of Minecraft.

Now, next time, please post an opinion of yours that is supported by facts if you want to discuss the purpose of this topic, instead of a rant in which you call everyone an "ungrateful brat."

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>nerfing health and regeneration potions and golden apples without any previous complaints or suggestions that they should be nerfed, because dinnerbone played 20 minutes of UHC (balancing the core game around a game mod)
>horse armor can only be found in dungeon chests, adding tedium and completely screwing over multiplayer servers
>zombies spawn more zombies everywhere (even in lit up areas and on half-slabs) for no reason, depending on how long you've stayed in a area (completely moronic), adding tedium and completely screwing over multiplayer servers
>instead of fixing sprinting rubberbanding, they make sprinting serverside, breaking a lot of stuff and making everything a netcode trainwreck
>make hunger system even more tedious rather than reworking it, adding tedium to the game once again
>name tags non-renewable and only obtainable in dungeon chests (seriously what the heck)
b-b-but ... horses

1 and 3 are the worst bits, the 'rubberbanding' fix that they did was supposedly a bug, but it was obviously a fix gone wrong that they cannot admit. Hunger is not terrible because food heals more and now food feels at least a little bit less required for movement. I have no rates for saturation drain to back that up and it's hardly different even then, so maybe I'm talking out of my ass.

Horses = dumb, 'nuff said. But let's touch up on the gold nerf and the zombies..

They wanted more difficulty in the game, so they rework current mobs (skeletons were ok because they were terrible before). I don't get why they didn't just make new mobs instead of reworking.. They could've used their creativity and made different zombies that were better. I mean, maybe they'll fix the whole zombie thing soon and it'll be toned down (it's ridiculous on servers at least).

Gold nerf? Why? I agree with what you said. He went with a thought based off of 5-10 minutes of gameplay in a modded Minecraft, figuring it would be great at making the game harder. Yes, it made it harder but it also made it more inconvenient. Instead of giving gold better uses, they just make it more expensive to do whatever you want to do. I can no longer make skeleton/zombie spawn traps because of how expensive it is to kill 1 group.. Oh, did I mention that their armor and new health system causes extremely random amounts of suffocation damage if you use a crusher system?..

All other potions are cheap as hell and easy to make, yet you want to make the ones that require gold harder just so the Mindcrackers don't have to be stuck in 1.4.7 for their UHC? Really, Dinnerbone? Really.


Make it a toggle with the so-called "UHC mode" instead of throwing it directly into the game. It's ­----ing terrible for casual gameplay and not everyone wants it. Hell, make it separate from UHC gamemode.. Remove it, I don't care what happens to it as long as it isn't in the standard survival game.


1.6 is the worst patch I've ever seen happen to Minecraft, and likely one of the worst of all time anyway. Poorest optimization, featureless, terrible ideas from mods, loads of bugs and one "revolutionary launcher" that was released in pre-alpha so they could get extra feedback when all they had to do was try to use it for an hour or two instead of assuming it works perfectly.


I highly suggest Mojang starts getting their ­---- together. I haven't heard of a single person that's excited for a Minecraft 2, 2.0+, or any new title from this company.

I agree with pretty much everything you said.

The zombie and hunger changes are only hard for players starting out; for players with good gear and farms, it's only tedious.
That'll be the case with any buffs to current mobs.
Every mob we have spawns from the beginning, so attempting to make them difficult for players with good gear screws over players starting the world who should be able to kill the starting mobs with the starting gear.

In regards to hunger, the whole "It makes saturation have a point" argument is crap since it's insanely easy to gain massive stockpiles of food, and when that happens, saturation doesn't mean anything at all.
It takes less than a second to eat a piece of food.
Same with the "People used to box themselves in and just heal" argument, you just box yourself in and eat.
If they try to make it so more food is used, it's incredibly easy to expand a farm.
Again, only players starting out have a hard time with the change; they don't have established food sources.

I'd love for them to actually make a change that makes it difficult for people with good gear while not making it difficult for people starting out since it's hard enough already, which is easily done by having harder enemies spawn the longer a player is in an area(potentially giving us new mobs if they ever actually bother doing it).

Saddles and horse armor should be craftable AND they should have durability.
It makes no sense that we can't craft a piece of leather(especially when villagers can) or a suit of gold, iron, or diamond armor built for horses when we can build armor for ourselves.
"But it makes you have to explore!"
Okay, let's make it so you can't craft any swords other than wood swords, and make it so you can't craft any armor!
Put all the higher tier armor and weapons in the dungeons!
Make people have to explore if they want that stuff!
And, just like horse armor and saddles don't break, the armor and weapons won't break!
Screw servers, they can just have admins make stuff or shops or crap; these changes make people have to explore!
So what if we can get the materials that clearly make up these items, they should be uncraftable and put in dungeons so we are forced to explore to get them!
(If you can't tell, it's sarcasm. It's also an awful idea.)

Tags, I kinda understand why they aren't craftable.
They prevent the mob named from despawning.
However, enemies you name still are aggressive.
It's not like you can farm the mob you named for anything either, you'd have to kill it to get anything(Other than cows or villagers, but they don't despawn anyway).
Therefore, it would be alright if they were craftable, or at least purchasable from villagers.

Horses are overrated.
Look, I liked the idea of a new mob, I supported horses coming in.
However, they make railroads so much more of a waste than they already are, and they have a ton more put into them compared to other mobs; I don't see any other mobs that vary in appearance and stats like they do.

I think the only thing I don't care for is the gold apple change.
Gold apples were pretty darn worthless.
Now they give a health boost.
The health and regen potion nerfs are idiotic though and make brewing more worthless than it already seems to be.

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Eh... I'm ok with this. it makes it a nice collectible, and it prevents too many people running around on a horse named "Butt stallion" or "penisface" or something, because it dissuades wasting them.

>only have fun the way we intend you to
I have ~20 horses and only 2 name tags. This is ridiculous. Minecraft is a barren wasteland and 'exploring' is utterly boring and tedious. I don't want to mine at y50 or run around looking for temples for 24+ hours, to get ~50 saddles, ~20 sets of each horse armor and >20 nametags.

Not making things craftable to try and force players to 'explore' your awfully generated world that only serves as a backdrop to the actual BUILDING game is the epitome of poor game design. Horse armor and nametags shouldn't be like Runescape Barrows loot, they're not God items, or even useful remotely useful endgame items.

@Creeper
gj, you have 0 name tags after 1 hour.

@LaughingCarrot
Now regeneration costs hunger/saturation.

For the same reason people believe in god, because they're deluded and have the mental capacity of 6 year olds.