For what it's worth, this is certainly not the worst forum "upgrade" I've seen. Recently a forum I stalk did an "upgrade" and ended up being down for about a week, then had broken search and broken PMs. And it has PAID membership!
Indeed. The worst I've seen in the past was around 2007 or so with [H] Hard forums (computer hardware community). They were down for a long time, with all sorts of moving issues.
Well, I won't be around helping anymore. I lost confidence in the people who run these forums after the recent switch over.
No individual notification they were going to do this. They should have sent PMs or e-mails about this.
When it was done, passwords were hosed, so we had to reset them.
Then passwords hosed a second time, so we had to reset them again.
And this curse merge crap: I don't want anything to do with Curse but they're forcing me to merge the two.
Forum posts from the past with special formatting or even bullet lists were garbled.
No thank you: I recognize poor work when I see it. I have no idea how much work the organizers/admins here did, but I'm sure they had a lot to do in a little time. All-in-all they got the job done, but at the sacrifice of making users bend over backwards to accomplish it. That's a big no-no in the world of IT and web hosting. Things should be almost seamless for the end-user. Who's to say they won't do the same again in the future?
Of course the organizers/admins are probably fine people in r/l. I don't know them, so this isn't anything personal. It's just about the poor experience I've had in their switch process as a customer of their free service. But there are plenty of forums out there in the world with plenty of free services. Good luck everyone and have fun in Minecraft. :smile.gif:
He did. Don't fault him if you can't read English. :wink.gif: The only word out of place is "increasing" instead of "increase".
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Its easy to increasing FPS in Mine craft. Creating a separate partition on the same drive will do nothing for speed. You're using the same platter with the same read/write speed and same throughput. It will help with volume organization and OS fragmentation (since you're not constantly writing to the OS file system), but not to an appreciable degree. Same drive partitioning is better used for redundancy (OS and data in separate partitions so if the OS gets corrupted a reinstall won't destroy your data) or when necessary (SWAP, / , /home, <etc>). NTFS file systems don't fragment all that bad under normal use.
You start of saying it's easy to increase framerate in Minecraft, but then you go on to talk about why partitioning isn't helpful. What you say is true, but not helpful since this was already discussed in great detail.
I get 12-20 frames with short render distance, fast graphics and smooth lighting off. Shouldn't I be getting playable fps? I seem to get the same fps no matter what settings I change, it's really frustrating.
A 520M should be more than adequate for Minecraft, especially when coupled with a Core i5 SandyBridge CPU. [*:1rv4wy2y]What resolution are you gaming at?
[*:1rv4wy2y]Did you install the latest NVIDIA drivers or just run with whatever came with the laptop?
[*:1rv4wy2y]Did you install the same software you use on your older system? If so, what do you run? A HijackThis report might help.
Whenever I play MC I run at 25-50 FPS but after about a minute of playing I go below 15 frames. Is there any way to keep my FPS consistent? Sorry if this has already been asked or if there's already an answer to it.
Framerate will never be consistent on any system unless you have vertical sync on and always generating more frames per second than the sync point.
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I generally play minecraft on my 40 inch hdtv. I plug into it via an hdmi cable. When I do this I don't have any problems and the game runs at 80 fps with all settings as high up as I can pump them.
This completely changes when I try to play this game just on the laptop. My fps drops to 15 and the game is extremely choppy.
First, I assume you're talking about the same system, a laptop, and not two different systems? If it's the same system and the framerate drops this much there's something wrong with your driver and/or configuration. Try updating your video driver.
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I'm just wanting to know the default frame-rate of minecraft
I don't think you grasp the concept of framerate. There is no "default" framerate. It's a measurement of how fast your PC is rendering frames each second, and can be anywhere from less than 1 to near-infinity. Most people aim for either 60 frames per second or 30 frames per second (FPS). 30 for video, and 60 for gaming. Most LCD monitors can't refresh faster than 60 times a second (60Hz). If you're doing more than 30 FPS most of the time, then you're probably fine.
well here it is Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller.
Unfortunately that's your limiting factor, as your notebook is not designed for gaming with that GPU. In fact, that GPU is absolutely horrid, and even worse with OpenGL. Period.
do you maybe have some tips for increasing fps in ubuntu 11.04 (not including mods) I don't have such a great pc
I have:
Compaq Presario CQ40
intel core 2 duo 2 Ghz
2 GIG DDR3 ram
os= ubuntu 11.04 natty narwhal
I don't know the specs wery well
What is the graphics card or GPU your system runs? This will matter more as a Core 2 Duo CPU and 2GB RAM is just fine for a Linux PC.
On that note NVIDIA GPUs work best on Linux since the drivers are better. AMD/ATI has much worse driver support in Linux. As for Intel GPUs, both the hardware and drivers stink on any OS.
Hello, Couldn't see this mentioned anywhere but you can try open task manager (CTRL+ALT+DEL) and go to the Minecraft process usually Javaw.exe or something similar and right click it, Then set Priority to high, Drop's the Cpu usage by a bit, then you can go to the same thing right click and set Affinity then switch it to 1 processor usually work's for me and drop's the Cpu usage from the high 80% down to 20%.
That will only help if the user has a ton of background processes running that are fighting for priority. And if that's the case, it's better to clean out the crud before doing this incomplete work-around.
As for the affinity setting, that's just telling Windows to give the process more priority on a specific thread/core (not processor for a majority of the PCs out there). And a good chunk of the people running into performance issues have older PCs with a single core CPU, so this won't help them.
Also, both of these settings would have to be done each time Minecraft is launched, which is a royal pain. The only way I know to make the change permanent is to turn the Minecraft executable into a service (done through NT-style command line terminal).
Hmm, yeah I get a 250-290 FPS on my machine so I'm OK really glad this thread has been made, because I know many people have FPS problems with Minecraft and this has definitely sorted a few of them out.
On that note, any framerate beyond an LCD's 60Hz refresh is wasted.
Quote from christiancobo »
i just read almost all the posts on this forum and found that most of it was bickering back and forth, i only wanted to try and get mc to run alittle smoother on my labtop. while some of it was infact helpful, most of it wasnt. thanks.. i guess?
Thanks for pointing to the same old topic time and time again. >.< You really didn't need to say anything.
If anybody could help I would be most grateful and I am not sure what I did to cause this problem, but I have had many problems before like when placing blocks down minecraft crashes but I worked out there was a problem with MC patcher. Sorry for anything that dose not make sense I am only 12.
[*:27tw9t9v]At what resolution are you playing Minecraft?
[*:27tw9t9v]Submit a DXDiag report. Directions are within this thread, or just Google it.
[*:27tw9t9v]Submit a HijackThis report. Ditto about directions.
after installing all the mods, my minecraft screen turns black after launching it.
If you get a black screen then either you didn't install the mod correctly or the mod version is incompatible with the client version. Double check everything, use 7zip only, and do everything over again.
And I assume you're not using "all the mods" out there? Some don't work well together. Try one mod at a time, testing after each one. If you're having problems with a specific mod, post in that mod author's thread. This thread is more for increasing performance, not troubleshooting mods.
I tried the defrag, and it helped with the jumps. Now, I ran HijackThis and for some reason it would not let me save the log, so I'm going to post pictures instead:
When you install new software and it has options for installing various taskbar, autoupdate, search, or toolbar type applications, you may want to opt out--a lot of the items listed here by HijackThis are exactly that. Personally, I take out all the auto-update things and taskbar items (like for Adobe Acrobat, Quicktime, Google updater, Google Toolbar, etc)
Probably don't need wildTangent.
To be certain, go through any suspicious or non Microsoft items and Google them. I do this for things that I'm not familiar with in the hijackThis log, as well as whatever can be found in the registry under:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run\ and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\...
Hapybrian is right on target with this. I do the same on my PC, removing updaters and quick loaders.
But absolutely remove WildTanget... that thing can load other malware! And from your screencaps you use IE for your browser (or one of your browsers, if not Chrome as well). Biggest security hole out there. Switch to either Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome exclusively, which are both much more secure. And while you're at it, wouldn't hurt to install AdBlock and NoScript add-ons for either Firefox or Chrome. AdBlock is easy, where as NoScript is changing the way your browse.
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Indeed. The worst I've seen in the past was around 2007 or so with [H] Hard forums (computer hardware community). They were down for a long time, with all sorts of moving issues.
Take care man. Good luck holding down the fort for performance/troubleshooting issues. :smile.gif:
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- No individual notification they were going to do this. They should have sent PMs or e-mails about this.
- When it was done, passwords were hosed, so we had to reset them.
- Then passwords hosed a second time, so we had to reset them again.
- And this curse merge crap: I don't want anything to do with Curse but they're forcing me to merge the two.
- Forum posts from the past with special formatting or even bullet lists were garbled.
No thank you: I recognize poor work when I see it. I have no idea how much work the organizers/admins here did, but I'm sure they had a lot to do in a little time. All-in-all they got the job done, but at the sacrifice of making users bend over backwards to accomplish it. That's a big no-no in the world of IT and web hosting. Things should be almost seamless for the end-user. Who's to say they won't do the same again in the future?Of course the organizers/admins are probably fine people in r/l. I don't know them, so this isn't anything personal. It's just about the poor experience I've had in their switch process as a customer of their free service. But there are plenty of forums out there in the world with plenty of free services. Good luck everyone and have fun in Minecraft. :smile.gif:
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Unfortunately, fail in one area I see: transferred over posts that used list (ie: [ list ] [ * ]), were garbled.
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He did. Don't fault him if you can't read English. :wink.gif: The only word out of place is "increasing" instead of "increase".
You start of saying it's easy to increase framerate in Minecraft, but then you go on to talk about why partitioning isn't helpful. What you say is true, but not helpful since this was already discussed in great detail.
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A 520M should be more than adequate for Minecraft, especially when coupled with a Core i5 SandyBridge CPU.
[*:1rv4wy2y]What resolution are you gaming at?
[*:1rv4wy2y]Did you install the latest NVIDIA drivers or just run with whatever came with the laptop?
[*:1rv4wy2y]Did you install the same software you use on your older system? If so, what do you run? A HijackThis report might help.
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No. Unless the software developer built-in an option to limit framerates to a specific value. To my knowledge, Minecraft doesn't have that.
How you have your Windows configured, what software you have installed, what services, what third-party processes running in memory, etc., etc.
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Framerate will never be consistent on any system unless you have vertical sync on and always generating more frames per second than the sync point.
First, I assume you're talking about the same system, a laptop, and not two different systems? If it's the same system and the framerate drops this much there's something wrong with your driver and/or configuration. Try updating your video driver.
I don't think you grasp the concept of framerate. There is no "default" framerate. It's a measurement of how fast your PC is rendering frames each second, and can be anywhere from less than 1 to near-infinity. Most people aim for either 60 frames per second or 30 frames per second (FPS). 30 for video, and 60 for gaming. Most LCD monitors can't refresh faster than 60 times a second (60Hz). If you're doing more than 30 FPS most of the time, then you're probably fine.
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Unfortunately that's your limiting factor, as your notebook is not designed for gaming with that GPU. In fact, that GPU is absolutely horrid, and even worse with OpenGL. Period.
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What is the graphics card or GPU your system runs? This will matter more as a Core 2 Duo CPU and 2GB RAM is just fine for a Linux PC.
On that note NVIDIA GPUs work best on Linux since the drivers are better. AMD/ATI has much worse driver support in Linux. As for Intel GPUs, both the hardware and drivers stink on any OS.
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That will only help if the user has a ton of background processes running that are fighting for priority. And if that's the case, it's better to clean out the crud before doing this incomplete work-around.
As for the affinity setting, that's just telling Windows to give the process more priority on a specific thread/core (not processor for a majority of the PCs out there). And a good chunk of the people running into performance issues have older PCs with a single core CPU, so this won't help them.
Also, both of these settings would have to be done each time Minecraft is launched, which is a royal pain. The only way I know to make the change permanent is to turn the Minecraft executable into a service (done through NT-style command line terminal).
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Scroll through and read the last eleven pages of this thread. Mods for performance were already discussed here.
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On that note, any framerate beyond an LCD's 60Hz refresh is wasted.
Thanks for pointing to the same old topic time and time again. >.< You really didn't need to say anything.
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[*:27tw9t9v]At what resolution are you playing Minecraft?
[*:27tw9t9v]Submit a DXDiag report. Directions are within this thread, or just Google it.
[*:27tw9t9v]Submit a HijackThis report. Ditto about directions.
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If you get a black screen then either you didn't install the mod correctly or the mod version is incompatible with the client version. Double check everything, use 7zip only, and do everything over again.
And I assume you're not using "all the mods" out there? Some don't work well together. Try one mod at a time, testing after each one. If you're having problems with a specific mod, post in that mod author's thread. This thread is more for increasing performance, not troubleshooting mods.
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Hapybrian is right on target with this. I do the same on my PC, removing updaters and quick loaders.
But absolutely remove WildTanget... that thing can load other malware! And from your screencaps you use IE for your browser (or one of your browsers, if not Chrome as well). Biggest security hole out there. Switch to either Mozilla Firefox or Google Chrome exclusively, which are both much more secure. And while you're at it, wouldn't hurt to install AdBlock and NoScript add-ons for either Firefox or Chrome. AdBlock is easy, where as NoScript is changing the way your browse.