I know that servers run on a player based income source and, what will happend if that source just suddenly stops? do you even think half of the server that dependent on that source will keep up? No that means that you will have a hard time finding server to play on with your friends. so just leave them be and stop this madness. It is still the players decision to pay or not. If you don't like that system, no one is forcing you to stay on that server; and I bet you can find another server without that system.
And whether it was consumer pressure or not, I've already (hopefully) established why p2w is unethical, which is why p2w servers should be taken down.
You don't think there is a reason for these server are still being up? Mojang knowns that they exsist, it's just that they don't really care untill something major is going down like last time.
I don't need any proof this is a fact, if you want you can look it up then you'll have you're proof.
Okay.... I'm going to put a end to this "topic" / Disccustion.
This is how it is: back in the old days of Minecraft, back when faction and other simmular "plugin" servers where coming around, al ot of people started playing that rather than vanilla Minecraft, which was good. It helped getting inspiration for vanilla/singleplayer work.if you look at statistics from this time period you will see a significant increase of server and player playing on those server. Not only did this revive Minecraft for players that had quit, a whole new community was bron from it the community known has "Bukkit"
Bukkit was the server engine that supported plugins and the majority of the server as this time was running on this engine, when allowing both players and Admins to use all these new features on their server new creativity was born. Server owners could set up new worlds containing new mechanics that the players could enjoy such as: Spleef, Hunger Games and much more. The best thing with "bukkit" and Bukkit servers was that anyone could code this thing called Plugin, or at least the one with a bit of a knowledge when it come down to coding. Not only did this bring players back to the game, it brought a lot of coders. Bukkit developed a forum to share and help both people using plugins and the masterminds creating the pluings, okay so far noting bad has really occurred, so where does this problem lay?
Minecraft was getting more and more subscribers that ever and business was going great, yes it took awhile for bukkit and all the developers to update all their pluings and such to the newest Minecraft release but apart from that everything was superb. Since the community was growing so rapidly, of course a lot of server owners invested in running servers for this game, I mean why not? So this brought us more and more server owners and more and more server to play on, and everyone of them was different from the other one. So what happens, Everything was looking good until Mojang of everyone was getting mail from 12 Years olds parents saying that "My kid is on a server and he needs to pay", "My kid just charged my credit card on some useless diamonds in YOUR GAME" What I'm tying to say here is that Minecraft has got a lot of emails phone calls etc, due to their kids going on and buying stuff on these 3rd Party servers, everything has a breaking point and in the 5 of June 2014 was Mojangs. At this time there where some extreme server that where having options to pay 500Dollars to get advantages, this is not okay you need to keep some sort of decency in the matter. However there was still servers that where fairly stable and some didn't even have a "pay to win" if you would like to call it that, but the point I'm trying to make here is that no one is forcing you to either pay on that server or even play on it. this is your decision and your decision only.
Result: a but load of servers went down and never came back, some survived with big wounds and some where still stable. Not everybody can run a Minecraft server, it takes time, effort and last but not least a big wallet. No one if running a public server for fun if that is what you think, it's the same thing, you would't get up to work 7 days a week to get paid. this was there jobs and they reinvested for both the server and upgrading and adding new features. I know some servers are Violating the current Eula, but there is no other way for them to keep up the server (thier income). So what you are suggestion now is donations "The answer to everything" no, that won't even keep up for a Monty server cost.
Ask your self: "If I join a server how likely I'm I to donate to this server"
Answer 1 (very generous person): Of course I would, I like to see the community grow and if my donation could improve current features, I'm In!!!
Answer 2 (fairly Generous person): I could maybe donate sometime in the future, when I feel like I'm really enjoying my stay on this server.
Answer 3 (Average Minecraft Player): I would not donate, I don't think I ever will. I have other things to spend my money on that a server I know I won't play on that often.
Analysation:
Answer 1: Is the least occurring player there is, this is a person that has money to spend, but doesn't know that he/she is going to find a new server or another game to play within the coming month.
Result: this player Is not a reliable source and a stable donation will not be for-filled.
Answer 2: This answer is going to be by the minority of players, where they wan't to have their fun before any payments are made.
Result: the chance of any payments are small, this player will either leave the server after a couple of weeks or support with 1 fairly small payment.
Answer 3: This is the majority of the current Minecraft players, they won't even bother looking into donations and what it will do, they are just looking for a server to stay one, meet friends and play around.
Result: this player has and will never be a reliable income source, He/She made it clear from the beginning that they won't support this witchery.
In my conclusion I will take the opportunity to say that I'm happy that Mojang took the decision they took, it clear a lot of bad servers, but they wounded the majority. It's not right when they majority will take the hit from what the minority did, but it is what it is. So I hope you now understand that it is impossible for a Minecraft server to get a 1:1 budget for a server. donations won't even cover as near as the whole server cost. there are more server breaking the EULA than you can imagine, but what they have done is to build up a strong and good community with their players. So instead of going around busting them, bare in mind that there are people like you and me that has but a lot of money into that particular server and that they are more losers that winners. It dosen't cost the server anything to give the player the abilities for money, but it costs the player; and if you are ready to pay money for flying, or diamonds you name it. Then the players on that server probably are having a good time, with friends and other.
I just moved to the states, and recently got my computer. Now I'm feeling for making a modpack, I'm good with installing mods and fixing errors (playing modded Minecraft has been my passion since Beta1.6)
So when I'm playing/doing my own modpacks I usually have them heavily "Tech" inspired, which basically means that I end up with 85% technically mods; which in not necessarily a bad thing It's just what I prefer and like to play. So i'm writing this post in hope that someone out there will join in on this server and play with me. At the moment It's me and a few friends. noting to spectacular.
But Notice, when I'm saying that I'm looking for experienced player I'm looking for someone that has been playing modapcks and has a earlier experience with tech mods and how they work. I'm probably going to be running Ic2 with GregTech and for those of you who know what GregTech is, you know that it is a challenging mod, with a lot of crafting, mining and setting up.
If you are interest in joining me, just Pm me here on the forum.
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
The project
At the start of the official launch depending on how successful the server becomes we have decided to start with 1 big continent.
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
Different biomes around the map: snow,plains, forests etc.
A spectacular mountain rang with valleys and rivers.
Hand built cave systems (using world edit) Not really necessary
Big obvious paths through the map leading to small towns and cities
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
I just downloaded a map from planetminecraft http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/epic-minecraft-world-8x8k/ , The map was great and all, tho I have found a problem. No animals or hostile mobs spawn.. And when I tried to spawn something The mob stood perfectly still and didn't move a single block, they just made sounds. Is there anything in the world file I need to change?
I know that the map is made from world painter I know. If anyone have earlier experience with this problem please replay and tell me what do did to solve the problem
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
Different biomes around the map: snow,plains, forests etc.
A spectacular mountain rang with valleys and rivers.
Hand built cave systems (using world edit) Not really necessary
Big obvious paths through the map leading to small towns and cities
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
We can pay via Paypal and other secure online payment services. since this is a rather
risky market we are dealing with we can split up the payment into sections depending on how much you have accomplish during the time you are working with it. At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
Different biomes around the map: snow,plains, forests etc.
A spectacular mountain rang with valleys and rivers.
Hand built cave systems (using world edit) Not really necessary
Big obvious paths through the map leading to small towns and cities
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
We can pay via Paypal and other secure online payment services. since this is a rather
risky market we are dealing with we can split up the payment into sections depending on how much you have accomplish during the time you are working with it. At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
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ahhaha no, I meant to quote the privous one
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Thnaks! In other words this was what I meant
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yes about your point...
I know that servers run on a player based income source and, what will happend if that source just suddenly stops? do you even think half of the server that dependent on that source will keep up? No that means that you will have a hard time finding server to play on with your friends. so just leave them be and stop this madness. It is still the players decision to pay or not. If you don't like that system, no one is forcing you to stay on that server; and I bet you can find another server without that system.
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You don't think there is a reason for these server are still being up? Mojang knowns that they exsist, it's just that they don't really care untill something major is going down like last time.
I don't need any proof this is a fact, if you want you can look it up then you'll have you're proof.
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Okay.... I'm going to put a end to this "topic" / Disccustion.
This is how it is: back in the old days of Minecraft, back when faction and other simmular "plugin" servers where coming around, al ot of people started playing that rather than vanilla Minecraft, which was good. It helped getting inspiration for vanilla/singleplayer work.if you look at statistics from this time period you will see a significant increase of server and player playing on those server. Not only did this revive Minecraft for players that had quit, a whole new community was bron from it the community known has "Bukkit"
Bukkit was the server engine that supported plugins and the majority of the server as this time was running on this engine, when allowing both players and Admins to use all these new features on their server new creativity was born. Server owners could set up new worlds containing new mechanics that the players could enjoy such as: Spleef, Hunger Games and much more. The best thing with "bukkit" and Bukkit servers was that anyone could code this thing called Plugin, or at least the one with a bit of a knowledge when it come down to coding. Not only did this bring players back to the game, it brought a lot of coders. Bukkit developed a forum to share and help both people using plugins and the masterminds creating the pluings, okay so far noting bad has really occurred, so where does this problem lay?
Minecraft was getting more and more subscribers that ever and business was going great, yes it took awhile for bukkit and all the developers to update all their pluings and such to the newest Minecraft release but apart from that everything was superb. Since the community was growing so rapidly, of course a lot of server owners invested in running servers for this game, I mean why not? So this brought us more and more server owners and more and more server to play on, and everyone of them was different from the other one. So what happens, Everything was looking good until Mojang of everyone was getting mail from 12 Years olds parents saying that "My kid is on a server and he needs to pay", "My kid just charged my credit card on some useless diamonds in YOUR GAME" What I'm tying to say here is that Minecraft has got a lot of emails phone calls etc, due to their kids going on and buying stuff on these 3rd Party servers, everything has a breaking point and in the 5 of June 2014 was Mojangs. At this time there where some extreme server that where having options to pay 500Dollars to get advantages, this is not okay you need to keep some sort of decency in the matter. However there was still servers that where fairly stable and some didn't even have a "pay to win" if you would like to call it that, but the point I'm trying to make here is that no one is forcing you to either pay on that server or even play on it. this is your decision and your decision only.
Result: a but load of servers went down and never came back, some survived with big wounds and some where still stable. Not everybody can run a Minecraft server, it takes time, effort and last but not least a big wallet. No one if running a public server for fun if that is what you think, it's the same thing, you would't get up to work 7 days a week to get paid. this was there jobs and they reinvested for both the server and upgrading and adding new features. I know some servers are Violating the current Eula, but there is no other way for them to keep up the server (thier income). So what you are suggestion now is donations "The answer to everything" no, that won't even keep up for a Monty server cost.
Ask your self: "If I join a server how likely I'm I to donate to this server"
Answer 1 (very generous person): Of course I would, I like to see the community grow and if my donation could improve current features, I'm In!!!
Answer 2 (fairly Generous person): I could maybe donate sometime in the future, when I feel like I'm really enjoying my stay on this server.
Answer 3 (Average Minecraft Player): I would not donate, I don't think I ever will. I have other things to spend my money on that a server I know I won't play on that often.
Analysation:
Answer 1: Is the least occurring player there is, this is a person that has money to spend, but doesn't know that he/she is going to find a new server or another game to play within the coming month.
Result: this player Is not a reliable source and a stable donation will not be for-filled.
Answer 2: This answer is going to be by the minority of players, where they wan't to have their fun before any payments are made.
Result: the chance of any payments are small, this player will either leave the server after a couple of weeks or support with 1 fairly small payment.
Answer 3: This is the majority of the current Minecraft players, they won't even bother looking into donations and what it will do, they are just looking for a server to stay one, meet friends and play around.
Result: this player has and will never be a reliable income source, He/She made it clear from the beginning that they won't support this witchery.
In my conclusion I will take the opportunity to say that I'm happy that Mojang took the decision they took, it clear a lot of bad servers, but they wounded the majority. It's not right when they majority will take the hit from what the minority did, but it is what it is. So I hope you now understand that it is impossible for a Minecraft server to get a 1:1 budget for a server. donations won't even cover as near as the whole server cost. there are more server breaking the EULA than you can imagine, but what they have done is to build up a strong and good community with their players. So instead of going around busting them, bare in mind that there are people like you and me that has but a lot of money into that particular server and that they are more losers that winners. It dosen't cost the server anything to give the player the abilities for money, but it costs the player; and if you are ready to pay money for flying, or diamonds you name it. Then the players on that server probably are having a good time, with friends and other.
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Hi!
I just moved to the states, and recently got my computer. Now I'm feeling for making a modpack, I'm good with installing mods and fixing errors (playing modded Minecraft has been my passion since Beta1.6)
So when I'm playing/doing my own modpacks I usually have them heavily "Tech" inspired, which basically means that I end up with 85% technically mods; which in not necessarily a bad thing It's just what I prefer and like to play. So i'm writing this post in hope that someone out there will join in on this server and play with me. At the moment It's me and a few friends. noting to spectacular.
But Notice, when I'm saying that I'm looking for experienced player I'm looking for someone that has been playing modapcks and has a earlier experience with tech mods and how they work. I'm probably going to be running Ic2 with GregTech and for those of you who know what GregTech is, you know that it is a challenging mod, with a lot of crafting, mining and setting up.
If you are interest in joining me, just Pm me here on the forum.
//Beefchicken
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Is this server still up?
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About Us
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
The project
At the start of the official launch depending on how successful the server becomes we have decided to start with 1 big continent.
Similar to thees ones:
--> http://imgur.com/4XoxDlM
--> http://imgur.com/Uyll6tL
--> http://imgur.com/Ey1sDv2
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
We would like to map to contain following:
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
Email: [email protected]
Skype: RiftDimensionServerTeam
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
We are looking forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Riftdimension Server Team
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If you still are intrested add us on skype: riftdimensionserverteam
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Why doen't NEI show the recepies?
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I fixed it! No all hositle mobs spawn, BUT no animals spawn... Even that I have loaded new chunks
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Hello!
I just downloaded a map from planetminecraft http://www.planetminecraft.com/project/epic-minecraft-world-8x8k/ , The map was great and all, tho I have found a problem. No animals or hostile mobs spawn.. And when I tried to spawn something The mob stood perfectly still and didn't move a single block, they just made sounds. Is there anything in the world file I need to change?
I know that the map is made from world painter I know. If anyone have earlier experience with this problem please replay and tell me what do did to solve the problem
Best wishes, Beefchicken
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Great, make sure that they add us on either skype or mail us!
thanks a lot
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About Us
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
The project
At the start of the official launch depending on how successful the server becomes we have decided to start with 1 big continent.
Similar to thees ones:
--> http://imgur.com/4XoxDlM
--> http://imgur.com/Uyll6tL
--> http://imgur.com/Ey1sDv2
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
We would like to map to contain following:
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
We can pay via Paypal and other secure online payment services. since this is a rather
risky market we are dealing with we can split up the payment into sections depending on how much you have accomplish during the time you are working with it. At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
Email: [email protected]
Skype: RiftDimensionServerTeam
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
We are looking forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Riftdimension Server Team
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About Us
We are a group of guys that has started a server project, to give old and new players a new experience of the game with the help of a few mods. The idea of the project is heavenly inspired but "World of Warcraft" or purely buy Fantasy RPG type games. We hope to build up a community with a friendly community. So far we have just finish the beta map, with a few quests and bosses. Now for the official launch we would like to have something more unique, to give the players something to look at.
The project
At the start of the official launch depending on how successful the server becomes we have decided to start with 1 big continent.
Similar to thees ones:
--> http://imgur.com/4XoxDlM
--> http://imgur.com/Uyll6tL
--> http://imgur.com/Ey1sDv2
We have no requirement of what program you should be using, but we strongly recommend using either
"World machine" or "World painter" since you are making the map we hope that you will be able to host the map and build your self, if this is not possible for you we can host the map including all plugins you need.
We would like to map to contain following:
Recourse pack
At the moment we are using "Gerudokucraft" but we have not yet decided, feel free to come with suggestions on what packs we could be using, bare in mind they need to work fine in a fantasy styled environment.
Payment
We can pay via Paypal and other secure online payment services. since this is a rather
risky market we are dealing with we can split up the payment into sections depending on how much you have accomplish during the time you are working with it. At the moment we have not decided how much we are willing to pay for all of this. But if you take a look at all of the work that needs to be done and, come back to us with a reasonable price we can make the deal and hopefully get started as soon as possible.
Time Constraints
We would like this project to be completely done in 2-3 months if this is not possible we can discuss it and hopefully come up with another period of time.
Contact Us
If you are interested in this project, send us an email, or add us on Skype:
Email: [email protected]
Skype: RiftDimensionServerTeam
In your contact request, please state whether you are an individual, or a team of builders. Additionally, please provide us with a link to an organized portfolio of your previous builds. There is no required format for your application; you should structure your application in a professional manner, and use correct spelling and grammar throughout. Please do not apply if you are not a truly exceptional builder.
We are looking forward to hearing from you.
Best wishes,
Riftdimension Server Team