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Jul 3, 2013Difference between the same seeds - ResolvedPosted in: MCX360: Discussion
I struck upon an idea for how to resolve this issue on my own. Others here might like to follow the same procedure if they are having similar problems with two world instances of the same seed not being exactly the same. This procedure may be documented elsewhere on the forums or on the wiki, but I haven't gone searching for it, so please don't shoot me if what I am saying here is not something entirely new or unique.
The solution involves backing up the savegame file to an external USB device, renaming the backup, then loading the renamed world in Creative Mode. Using this method you get an exact copy of your current world, not just the plain world as it was seeded, but including any changes you have made to that world since it was created. Before you begin, make sure you have a USB thumb drive or other USB storage device that is formatted for use with the XBox. If you don't already have one set up for the XBox, any data on the device you intend to use will be lost when formatted for use with the XBox.
Here's how it's done...
1. Exit out of the game first (don't forget to save) and return to your XBox main menu.
2. Go to Settings > System > Storage and select the device you saved your Survival Mode world to originally, most likely to your XBox's hard drive. Then go to Games and Apps > Minecraft and locate the savegame file for the Survival Mode world you want to clone, then select it (A), and Copy (A) it to the USB device.
3. Go back to playing Minecraft, and when it asks you which device to load your world from, choose the USB device instead of the hard drive. Load the game using Creative Mode rather than Survival Mode, and select the Host Options if you want them.
4. Once the world loads, save and exit back to the Minecraft menu. Go back to the load screen and rename the save file. I rename mine the same as my Survival Mode world, but with a (CM) at the end to denote Creative Mode. Renaming is vital if you intend to follow the next step, which is optional.
5. Exit out of the game and return to your XBox menu, and follow step 2 above again, but this time copy the savegame from your external USB device back to your XBox's hard drive. You should now have two exact copies of your world, one in Survival Mode and one in Creative Mode.
This procedure can be done over again whenever you have made major changes to your Survival Mode world, so that you can keep your Creative Mode copy in synch. I hope this proves useful to someone. I know I'll be doing this often.
Jul 3, 2013Some great feedback here, thanks everyone.Posted in: MCX360: Discussion
Difference between the same seeds
Yeah, there were a few days, maybe a week, went by between the time I created the Survival Mode (SM) world and its Creative Mode (CM) counterpart. I don't know if there were any title updates between them though. I was careful to make sure I spelt the seed exactly the same both times, as I figured that capitalization would be important. For some strange reason, the CM world seems to be a few Y levels lower than the SM world. The church / temple in the village near the original spawning point had its door well hidden behind a pile of sand in the CM world, whereas it was readily accessible in the original SM world I made with the same seed.
My Latest In-Game Update
Being that I couldn't easily map between the two instances, I decided on a new tactic for accessing the Nether Fortress. I re-visited that tower which I had carved a spiral staircase up through the middle of earlier. This time I came equipped with enough obsidian to be able to build a Portal inside the Nether Fortress itself. Navigating between my first base in the Nether and the Nether Fortress just proved way too difficult and risky, so now I can portal straight in to the Fortress. Much easier.
My village on the hill is looking quite good now. I'd like to entice some villagers back into my village and have them come live in some of the buildings I've made there. Also, I'm about ready to start looking at making some automated factories in my village.
I've been experimenting with Redstone, Repeaters, Levers, Buttons, and Pistons. I have a gate in my village wall made of two Sticky Pistons stacked vertically, which opens and closes at the flick of a lever on either side. One thing I noticed is that, if I leave the village through that mechanised gate and close it from the outside, if I then find my way back in to my village through some other way (such as the Potrtal), I cannot open the mechanised gate from the inside again. I have to smash the gate open and re-build it. Strange.
perrinMD: I have started making a map of the Nether now. Thanks for that suggestion.
forrgott: That's a great suggestion, using cobblestone instead of Nether Brick, thanks. I'll do that from now on.
Cobra951: Nice to see someone else uses the same seed I'm using. Is that for a single-player world, or is that on a server? And thanks for the information about "Branch Mining". That sounds very useful.
Jul 1, 2013Thanks for the replies. I also learned a valuable lesson last night about the nature of these "seeds" and randomization. No two maps using the same "seed" will be exactly the same, so my second instance of the gargamel seed, the one I made yesterday in Creative Mode, will not help me find things in my Survival Mode game. I get that now.Posted in: MCX360: Discussion
Must .... find .... more ... diamonds!
Jul 1, 2013Thanks for all the replies everyone.Posted in: MCX360: Discussion
Time spent playing games
Yeah, 18 hours was probably a little exaggeration, more like 12 hours per day. I'm a sickness beneficiary and stuck at home all day, so "go out and get a job" doesn't really apply right now, but I appreciate the sentiment. Oh, and RayNarvaezJr, my stellar progress in the game so far is due to the amount of time I'm spending playing it.
Thanks for the information about the servers, xplodingporkchopz, I really was a bit confused about that. Now that there is so much information on the Minecraft Wiki about the MX360 edition, it would be great if they would highlight the stuff that is particularly relevant to MX360 on each page. I've spent a lot of time recently on the Elder Scrolls wiki, and they have these little icons on each page that indicate info specific to each console, or for PC-only information. I might suggest that on the wiki at some time.
Speaking of which, I'm currently trying to work out how to use the map. According to the Minecraft Wiki, I can make different maps at different zoom levels. Is that also possible with the MX360 edition? I haven't seen the option to do so anywhere in my Crafting Table. I have a map and I have spare paper. My map is not complete yet, is that why I can't copy it or extend it?
My Latest In-Game Update
I have just started a new Creative Mode world using the same seed (gargamel) as I am using for my Survival Mode world, and I want to be able to use the Creative Mode world to help me in the Survival Mode, by knowing where things are, hence the mapping.
My previous goal in the game has now been achieved. I have killed a Blaze and made a Brewing Stand, and can now craft potions. The fight with the Blazes at the Nether Fortress was fairly pedestrian, but the journey back to my Nether base and the Portal was epic! It took me ages to find my way back, without aid of a compass or map.
I've started marking out the dungeons in the Overworld, using lime green and red wool. I use one lime green wool on the "safe" side, and one red wool on the "unsafe" of my flashings (trailblazing terminology), so if I follow the lime green ones I can find my way back to my Overworld base easily.
My current goal is to find more diamonds, so that I can craft some armour that is better than the leather armour I'm currently wearing. Iron is in faily short supply at the moment, so I don't like wasting it on armour.
Strange In-Game Occurance
I just have to tell you all about something weird that happened in my game the other day. I had tamed a wolf, and left it above-ground near my farm area in my village. At the time, I was below-ground in my secret lair, under my village. A storm was billowing outside, and there was thunder that I could hear even down in my lair. Suddenly, after a huge rumble of thunder, my tame wolf appeared in my underground lair, on fire! He must have been hit by a bolt of lightning and somehow transported to me underground. He survived, and I fed him, and he now lives in my secret lair. Very strange.
By the way, thanks also, xplodingporkchopz, for the compliment about my intelligence. And thanks Drifts115. What you said was very encouraging.
Jun 29, 2013Hi all,Posted in: MCX360: Discussion
I'm new to Minecraft, having heard a bit about it in the past, but I never did check it out for PC. Then I saw it pop up in my suggestions on my XBox Live home page and I thought I'd check it out. I downloaded the demo version and was hooked immediately. I've got the full version now on my XBox, and I have played it almost 18 hours a day, every day, for about two weeks now, since getting it.
I started out with the Tutorial world, then I went to a superflat world in Creative Mode and built myself my dream house and farm. Then I decided to pursue those XBox Achievements, so I went in search of a "seed" to play in Survival Mode, and came across this GameSpot post listing some of the best seeds for the XBox. I chose the first one, "gargamel", which has proven to be a whole lot of fun, and a great place for me to further my minecraftucation (don't know whether I just coined a new word there, but I mean "Minecraft education", of course).
I'm still playing the gargamel seed, single-player, in Survival Mode on the XBox, and I'm starting to get to grips with how this game works. I'm not yet ready to join a server, but I thought I'd introduce myself here anyway and let people know that I'm here.
In my current world, I have reached the stage of making a Nether Portal and travelling to the Nether. I've established a safe base there for myself, and have secured the portal at the other end, so I can safely travel from my Overworld base to my Nether base. That was a huge achievement for me, as I'm chronically short on arrows and the Ghast have been the worst foes I have faced yet in the game. My current objective is to find a way into the Nether Fortress so that I can face off against a Blaze and get some Blaze Rods, so that I can craft a Brewing Stand. My base in the Nether is protected by Nether Bricks, and I have started making pathways across the god-forsaken Nether terrain out of those dark bricks too, to protect me from fire caused by Ghast attacks on the surrounding Netherrack. It is slow progress, but I'd rather do it this way, so that I can quickly and easily return to the safety of my base when those fire-breathing airships loom overhead. I still haven't found the entrance to the Nether Fortress, but I can see the great columns that support it. I even tried tunnelling up the inside of one of those columns once, making a spiral staircase inside it. Unfortunately there was a Ghast right above me when I reached the top of it, so I could go no further and had to beat a hasty retreat.
I took over the village at the original spawning point, and have flattened everything other than the main tower there. I flattened out the land that was once the village, and have started making my own village there, surrounded by a sturdy Stone Brick wall. I have a functioning farm, it's not autmated or anything (I'm still yet to learn those features of the game), but I have reached the stage where I am no longer subsistance-living ... I can plan ahead now to know that I have sufficient food and wood at the very least. My new village has a library, which includes an Enchantment Table surrounded by Bookshelves in the pattern shown on the wiki. It also features a "portal room", in the Stargate fashion.
As I learn the skills I need to be successful in this game, I am thinking about the future and the possibility of joining a server and playing online. I assume this would require XBox Gold, like other online games, is that right? I haven't had Xbox Gold since the initial period expired from when I first got my Xbox. I mostly play single-player RPG games like the Elder Scrolls series, Fall Out, and Far Cry (single-player storyline only). Minecraft intrigues me enough to possibly want to venture into MMOG territory. Therefore I'd like to use this forum thread to invite feedback about good servers to join, or for experienced players to point me to links of information they think I'd need to know in order to become a valuable addition on a server. I have the time, and an interest in the game, and I am slowly picking up the skills. Don't expect me to jump into your server straight away though, as I'm still slowly learning about the game and how everything works.
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