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Other: Do it like a boss.
Favorite mob? Wolves are okay I guess.

I don't wish to be mean in any way here, but that is exactly what LARGE biomes means.
This isn't exactly a new discovery, it was an announced feature. Just sayin'

Seems like a good way to add content to ocean biomes with sunken ships and such.
Personally, though, I think they should fix the current world generation and ocean-floor generation before they create any more structures.

Hmmm... which to choose?
A money-grubbing generic FPS or an action/adventure 3rd person hack, slash, and puzzle game?
Legend of Zelda takes the cake.

I like this idea. Undead riding demons? Heck yes.

But methinks one thing needs to be changed. If this spawns as a completely separate mob from both ghasts and wither skeletons, then there should be a special drop for it.

Why not have the wither skeleton head drop %100 from it? This gives it more of an incentive to seek out and kill it, and it means mojang can go all out with the difficulty on this thing, if it always drops something so rare.

I agree, not only does this keep you from being unintentionally affected by our own potion, but it decreases the OP'ness of insta-throw harming potions, although they were already counter-acted by short range.

The only problem I see with this, is if it has the same range as a bow, potions become very OP because you could snipe with harming or other potions. Perhaps giving it 1/4 the range of a bow would fix this?

Sounds like a great, well though out suggestion, only I have a few problems with it.

1. Not much reason to go into it.
While there is sometimes treasure, more mobs to fight, and a small chance of getting a new ingot, there is little reason to go in. Possibly add some sort of treasure in the middle of it (guarded by wither boss?), a much higher ore spawn rate (as it is dangerous to mine there), or some powerful (but not massively OP), expensive to make end-game recipes that involve dark ingots.

2.Spreading of the dead biome
As always, one has to assume people will try to use this as a grief tool. If the biome aggressively spread, some troll could lead it towards peoples houses, or towns, and that town would be overrun with mobs, and people would starve because nothing grows. You could fix this either by having dead biomes always surrounded by water/river, touching the surrounding land only in a few places, or by having some sort of item (similar to Terraria's "Purification Powder") that converts dead biome to one of the regular overworld biomes.

Other than that, having aggressively spreading dead biome would encourage the player(s) to work (together) to stop the biome from spreading, which makes for a fun mechanic that causes you to actually care about the surrounding landscape, gives you a continuous goal to work on (Keeping the dead biome under control), and allows for some interesting crafting possibilities.
You have my support.

While the Aether is a great mod, I doubt it will be integrated wholesale into Minecraft. Too many items in one update, not enough time for artists to catch up, and of course, not everything would completely "fit" within Minecraft. (although most of the mod does.)

However, something similar, such as the sky islands that were planned but never used, might be seen in a future update, and I hope it is, to complete the "Heaven (currently not implemented) - Earth (over-world) - Limbo (End) - Hell (Nether)" structure.
A Dimension with a bunch of floating islands and a way to traverse the skies? Yes, please.

Oh, ok., I get this now.

I see where you are coming from here. I too find it annoying that things like coal are affected by fortune, but necessary items like iron and gold aren't. Ok, yeah, I could see this being smoothly integrated into the game without really changing anything except this one problem.

As much as this makes sense, methinks some of the community might oppose it because it changes something that has been constant since iron was introduced into survival. (From the very start.) But besides that one worry, you have my support.

That happens to be the most irrational and rage-induced $0.02 that I have ever heard about SMP.

Go play single player if it bothers you that much.

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.Surprisingly solid idea you have there. Not sure how much work it would be for Mojang to program it, but definitely interesting.

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When I found a pyramid it was just too easy to get my 11 gold, 2 emeralds, 3 diamonds, 12 iron, and 9 TNT. there needs to be something more to protect it. Such as "Desert Guardians" AKA "Gold Golems".

Health Points
200 (x100) (Debatable)

Armor 4 ()

-Includes Boss Health Bar

-They do not: Take fall damage, Drown in Water or Burn in fire/Lava
-Slow healing factor so that you can't attack then wait a long time then attack again

-High resistance to ranged attacks
Attack Strength
Melee Strike:

Easy 4 () Medium 6 () Hard 8 ()
Charge Attack:

Easy 7 () Medium 9 () Hard 11 ()
Laser Attack:

Easy 4 ()+ Medium 6 ()+ Hard 9 ()+

(see info below)
Spawn
-In Desert Temples
-Only ONE Gold Golem will spawn in the temple

-If a Gold Guardian generated as part of a Pyramid is killed, another will NOT spawn to take its place.
-The Golem WILL spawn in peaceful, but will stay inactive.
Drops
(5-10)(Why Gold? Because Ancient Egypt used Gold Plating on it's statues))
(3-6)(Why Lapis? EXCELLENT QUESTION! The golem has blue glyphs on it and i like Lapis)

( 1 )( Mob Head. Trophy/Used to create Inanimate Statues) (more info below)

( 1 )("Power Core". An Item Used To Revive The Fallen Boss) (more info below)

(Not so strange to think about now-a-days since the dragon can be re-summoned with a single purpose item)
Experience
50 EXP
(Iron Golems Drop 0)

(Wither Drops 50)

(Dragon Drops 1,200)

Movement
Rather slow unless charging

(more info below)
Does not need to jump to move up 1 block

Behavior
-The golem will stand dormant in the Pyramid like a statue until a player gets within it's line of sight

(10 Blocks), then it will "Wake Up" and attack the player.
(It will also awake if any chests within a 20 block radius are interacted with. Eyes are dark while Inactive)

Once awake, it's awareness of the player will extend 32? blocks.
If the player manages to escape, the Gold Golem will give up the chase and go back to its spawn point (or if target is killed).

It moves slowly, but when it gets close (5-8 blocks Ish?), it will begin its attack pattern:
-Attempting to Melee the player three times, raising it's arms for a moment then brings them down, giving about half a second to react and move away.

-After that, Its jaw will drop, the Eyes Glow Red and it will charge the player, making a low Roar as it attacks. This sprint can only be stopped by a wall (of at LEAST 2m tall) OR if the golem has charged for a distance of 10 blocks, causing a sort of bull fighter effect.
(Anything weaker than blast resistance 30 EXCEPT for sandstone/sandstone variants will be broken on impact. stones/sandstone will show damage cracks but never break from impact.)
-Finally, After it has come to a stop, It will look at the player, after a few seconds will shoot a beam from its mouth in a horizontal line with the player in the midpoint, causing a sort of sweep attack from left to right. (This laser will be able to break the same blockset as the charge attack, igniting any Mob/Player in its path as well as any blocks it comes in contact with. The point of this is to clear out possible barricades the player has built around it, or used to hide.)
-If the player cannot be reached for Melee attacks (Like, being stuck in a hole or a small doorway) The Golem will go strait to using its Charge (To break a wall that's possibly blocking it), Then continue with the Laser.

Gold Golems do not attack random monsters because random monsters don't want to steal treasure. A Gold Golem's primary purpose is to defend Pyramids from raiding players

(But using one as a guard in your prison/gladiatorial battle/boss for your dungeon, is also GREAT!)
(And Because they only target players they cant be used to make mob grinders to get items easier.)

WHY ATTACK PLAYERS?:
Gold Guardians are meant to protect Pyramids from THIEVES (Players) As Iron Golems protect Villagers from zombies.

(And YES, Players are thieving from the pyramid, there is no way to sugar coat it. You tomb raiding player you......)

Gold Guardians do not attack random monsters because random monsters don't want to steal treasure.A Gold Guardian's primary purpose is to defend Pyramids from raiding players (But using one as a guard in your prison/gladiatorial battle/boss for your dungeon, is also GREAT!)
And Because they target players they cant be used to make mob grinders to get items easier.
They do not; Take fall damage, Drown in Water or Burn in fire/Lava

The Guardian Can NOT Be Tamed!
(The Purpose of the Golem is to attack players. NOT RANDOM MONSTERS! If you want that then make IronGolems. Not Going To Debate It.)

Crafting A Statue/Reviving the Boss.

To craft An Inanimate statue place the dropped boss's head onto a T of gold blocks.

To revive, use the "Power Core" on the statue to bring it back to life with a mighty roar and a short "Boot up" time

Here is a Concept model done by

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If you have been to one of these temples. you will see THIS BLOCK all over. It is the reason for the creeper faces and the Lapis bands. There ya have it.

I will not make a poll. This thread has had a number of polls, each having up to a thousand "yes" votes, so I don't find much of a reason to make one.

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EDIT: After two years, this thread is no longer an entirely accurate reflection of the current state of Minecraft. The basic problem I describe here, however, still very much persists. For more current and relevant discussion of this issue, you can skip directly to page 18.

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The basic ideas of this thread are as follows:

• Leather armor is not easy enough to acquire to balance out it's inferior statistics. Leather itself should be a commonplace early-game resource.

• Cows are unbalanced, in that they make pigs redundant and irrelevant by producing the same amount of identical food that pigs do in addition to other items that they don't.

• Both of these problems can be solved by a simple tweak to the cow's item drop rates.

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I don't know about all of you, but I've never used leather armor. I always found it to be easier to go right to iron armor; taking the time to pen in cows and breed them for leather would set me back quite a bit in game progression, and you rarely find nearby the 12-24 cows necessary to craft a full set of leather armor early enough in the game for it to be relevant for you to do so. I could better spend that time setting up a mining operation.

In relatively short order you can have enough iron for not only armor, but other essential items as well. Going directly for iron armor serves multiple goals simultaneously, whereas obtaining enough leather for armor is a task you have to go out of your way to accomplish and serves only that single goal to the exclusion of all others. Therefore, skipping over leather and going immediately for iron instead is the more efficient path to take, and the one most players will be most likely to follow. I have seen this first-hand in at least 90% of cases on all servers I've played on. This clearly doesn't make sense, as it puts the lowest tier armor in an unfortunate crossroads of being simultaneously less effective and more time-consuming to acquire.

Clearly, leather armor needs to be easier to obtain in order to balance it out and make it worthwhile for the player to spend time in the early game on it. So here is what I propose: make cows drop more leather, and less steak. When you think about it, cows and pigs are currently equal in terms of food value, but cows have an additional leather drop and are capable of producing milk. This makes them the clear choice for breeding, and makes pigs redundant and irrelevant. Why breed pigs when you can breed cows for the same resource cost and get much more payback for your efforts?

If, however, cows dropped primarily leather and only dropped a small amount of steak, it would give each animal clearly-defined roles and make both important to breed. And it would make the acquisition of leather for armor easier and give leather armor back it's rightful place as the cheap and commonplace first armor set players make.

Current Drop Rate:
0-2 leather and 1-3 steak
Even with the most improbable good fortune, under these rates you will need to kill a minimum of 12 cows to obtain a full set of leather armor, and potentially as many as 24 if you get only the minimum amount of leather from each cow you kill. But cows are capable of dropping no leather at all, which means that you might even need to kill more than 24 cows to obtain the leather needed for a full set of armor, with no theoretical maximum. This is absolutely ridiculous.

Conservative Suggested Rate:
2-4 leather and 0-1 steak
Under this rate, you would need to kill a minimum of 6 cows to craft a full set of leather armor, and as many as 12 maximum. These numbers are improved, but not quite as much as I would hope.

My Ideal Suggested Rate:
3-5 leather and either remove steak, or alter it or porkchops
With this rate the number of cows killed is now as low as 5 and as high as 8. This seems much more reasonable to me, as leather armor is primarily only relevant for a fairly small window of time in the early game, so you should obtain it as soon as possible. Either the steaks or the porkchops would be altered in terms of hunger value or saturation to make them no longer redundant and give each it's own place and use.

Pig item drop rates would remain unchanged in all scenarios.

An idea from a thread contributor that I very much support:

Quote from PatDay

4) Give leather new benefits - Make leather mechanically desirable Certainly not as much as diamond, but something people would consider using. I think the best option might be to include special non-combat enchantments only leather can get such as a Speed boost or Sneaking option (players are invisible to mobs past a certain distance while crouching). It would give people a reason to make a "work" outfit out of leather. This would seem to be only a benefit in my opinion and can't think of any drawbacks.

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Hello, Tom Riddle here, and I have another idea you may or may not like for the Nether.
This is for aesthetics and storage. Seeing as I have nothing to say yet, here's the idea:

"Blocks of Bone" can be obtained in the Nether. They spawn near Nether Oceans, and can overwrite any block except for lava, any form of netherbrick, and monster spawners. Obviously, they spawn when the Nether is generated. The blocks spawn in groups of 3 - 4 blocks. When broken, they drop 2 - 7 bones. The blocks can also be crafted like a Diamond Block. But using Bones, of course.

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Thanks for reading! If you support this, post it in the thread. You could make a banner if you wanted. However, if this thread gets enough views and stuff, I'll make a banner. Eventually. Again, thanks for reading!

Even though most resources in minecraft are limitless, there is a point in a world that you don't want to worry about resources anymore, so you enchant a pickaxe with fortune and start mining all the coal, redstone, diamond and lapiz you can find with it, to almost never worry about prospecting again when building stuff.

But fortune picks, in the current state, don't work on iron and gold ore blocks. And that happens for a clear reason, it would cause an infinite loop, where you break a block, get two blocks, place it, break it again, etc.

The suggestion is: change some aspect in the fortune enchantment to make it work on iron and gold ore without causing an infinite loop described above, I think the simple way to do this is by changing the drop of those ores from blocks to items, just like coal, redstone, diamond and lapiz ores. The drops would still be ores that you have to cook in the furnace, but now they are affected by fortune picks.

Please comment your thoughts below.

Edit: Forget I said anything, I was being a bit of an ass. Sorry.

Basically this potion is self explanatory.
There are two types of potions of aggression.
Potion of aggression[Self]: will force mobs to attack members of its own species.
Potion of aggression[Out]: will force the mob to become aggressive to any mob

I'm not too entirely sure if this potion should be allowed outside of creative mode. but this would defiantly help with people who would want to work things like mob arenas and they can freely watch the fun at the toss of a potion.
Possible crafting recipes: Potion of harming with ghast tear
Potion of Weakness with Ghast Tear

Please give your opinion on the idea be it nice or harsh.

any thoughts on the idea?

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Mojang literally said "**** you, single player lovers. We're going to deliberately make your experience worse. Why? Because we're dicks. Basically we're pissed off that multiplayer hasn't been getting the attention we think it deserves, so we're going to screw over the people who play single player. If multiplayer players can't have a better game, then no one should. Again, we're dicks. What's that about Notch? No, he can't help you. Notch has moved on to his next project and handed this one over to Team ****. You fell in lava? Good, because we hate you, paying customer."

Link?

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Jeb: Apologies for that minor inconvenience, I will immediately destroy our months of work and revert back to a divided minecraft. Updates and bugfixes will take twice as long, it will be harder for modders, and we'll have to figure out a different way to do the modding API, but I'm sure it's all worth it if we remove it because you, the customer, fell into lava.