there are three statements that are true in ever situation ever.
2. the question of life, the universe and everything,
3. people are dicks.
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Jul 12, 2011Posted in: DiscussionQuote from danthonywalker
42 = is binary for 00101010.
42 is perfect.
42 is a double digit number.
42 together makes everything.
42 is even.
42 IS LIFE, THE UNIVERSE AND EVERYTHING!
Answers your question (whatever that is) ?
I fixed your facts, Ape descendant.
Jul 12, 2011Posted in: DiscussionQuote from Aresfeda
OK siride but (and I'm not being purposefully contrary here or anything) does that not that if mojang put mod support into minecraft, they're condoning illegal activity? I'm dumb and I don't understand the logic of this.
no it does not mean that, because modding a game is completely different to distributing it illegally, by giving the source to a select group that has agreed to certain conditions they are condoning community modifications within the law, it's like giving someone an ice cream is not the same as condoning them throwing it at people.
also, if you've never heard of people pirating minecraft you should socialize more.
Jun 30, 2011ZoridiumJackL posted a message on What should I to to my house in minecraft to make it really cool and impress my homies?build your whole house on a bed of pistons, and then create a redstone network underneath it that alternates between on an off, you have now successfully imitated a hydrolics system for your house, may i recommend some bouze music as well?Posted in: Discussion
Jun 30, 2011Posted in: Discussion
i doubt that's the thread, and if it is... well, lets just say that only a very sad and lonely person would call that flaming...
Jun 30, 2011Posted in: DiscussionQuote from Crysillion
Am I the only one that thinks this plugin takes things a bit too far? When I first saw this, all I thought was how it could be abused or how it's a bit ridiculous that many servers are being driven into this "well you did bad on a server that's not mine so I'm going to care and not even let you try my server" standpoint. I feel as if the makers of this plugin are being given too much power due to MCBans success.
For the record, I am the owner of a Beta SMP server that averages 30+ online. (I'm going to keep it nameless, don't want to advertise) I'm not some kid raging about being the victim of this plugin, I'm simply making discussion. I would never implement MCBans on my server because the reasoning behind bans is simply too broad. When you think about the age bracket of the general Minecraft server, you quickly come to the realization that most of these servers are, unfortunately, being ran by people under the age of 16. More often than not, these people have a tendency to show immaturity and overreact much more than levelheaded adults (not trying to get into an age argument here, though).
Don't get the wrong idea, I'm not trying to say "kids suck, adults rule lol!", I'm simply stating that the younger the age, the more reckless the actions tend to be. With a plugin such as MCBans in place, these actions can present much more consequence to the victim than just being banned from said server. If it were to persist long enough, it would add up and get to a point where they would be banned from every single server that uses MCBans, whether they've played that server before or not. Regardless of the accumulation, I feel this is far too automated and takes the control out of the owners hands by too much of an extent, not to mention disputing a ban is exceedingly difficult and far too easy to lie about on both sides which almost renders the entire plugin useless to begin with.
People always retort with the same old story. "If a person griefs on one server, they'll grief on another" - you are wrong. It could've been a shitty day, they could've been extremely upset with the admin, they could've been dare-I-say "ragequitting". There's many things that could've happened and in the end they could still be a decent player on YOUR server. You know, the server that actually matters to -you-, the owner?
This doesn't make griefing "ok", this doesn't make rule-breaking "acceptable", it's just very situational. You have to remember that it's mostly people of the younger age that player Minecraft. Many of these people go about things irrationally. MCBans would be fine if it were just this in mind, but it's not. Server owners control even more power, and as stated before; many Minecraft servers are ran by people of younger age as well. I've been banned on a server by an immature, irrational admin before. Does this magically mean I should be banned from every single server that's using this plugin?
It's with this debate that I believe MCBans crosses the line with plugins and any server that uses the plugin is incapable of thinking for theirselves and passing their own judgment. I've skimmed through the MCbans list and seen a few people who actively play my server and love it be on that list. Thank god I didn't use MCbans, or these people wouldn't even have been able to try my server and become the long-term members they are today.
In very few cases is MCBans actually a worthwhile endeavor, and in pretty much all of these cases, if your server is worth it's salt and has the Moderators to back it up, you wouldn't need such a ridiculous plugin to begin with.
Far too many servers are using MCBans, including some of the more reputable, popular servers (which genuinely surprises me) and I think it's getting out of hand. This plug-in was a good idea on paper, but in execution it's a disaster waiting to happen for several avid Minecraft players.
Deal with it.
(and most ideas that sound that good on paper usually fail to factor in the whole "people are dicks" factor, that's why communism and what not fails.)
Jun 29, 2011you probably got flamed because if how you presented the idea, i doubt anyone is seriously against mod support, and if they are there idiots, that being said, you do need to be careful with your source code, especially if its not an open source (it is the definition after all) and yes, that was a really backwards way of looking at it, i almost never see more mods in beta than after release, minecraft is the only exception.Posted in: Discussion
Jun 29, 2011mine craft is being release after that if i recall correctly,Posted in: Discussion
Expansion Packs: Probably
Pre-Beta getting them for free: Yes, it was promised. This doesn't mean that beta and after buyers wont get them for free, but there is nothing forcing notch to give them out free.
i was about to point that out, the whole, pre-beta only thing, i've seen so many people just group beta and alpha into one thing and saying they were both promised expansions.
Jun 29, 2011no, there i no legal obligation for us to get it free, and really no moral obligation, unless your one of those self entitled players who think they are the true owners of minecraft.Posted in: Discussion
also, your pole missed alpha, beta are in no way even close to eligible for it. if they were to do that, they would go out of business, and i don't care how much money you say they have, if they had to buy a copy of minecraft for everyone who already has minecraft, they would lose almost all of their profit instantly, the only people with any sort of reason to even bring up the subject of getting it for free are alphas, and even then only the ones who don't know what their talking about would bother.
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