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I'm not sure if this is the right place for this, but...
Every time I try to upload a file for the download, it tells me there's a duplicate. Yet, whenever I look at files, there aren't any there. So I'm caught in some endless loop where I have no files yet Curseforge is convinced there's a duplicate. Help?
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DO NOT POST SUGGESTIONS HERE!
• If you want to update a suggestion thread of yours. Update the first post.
• If you can't handle negative criticism, DON'T MAKE A THREAD!!
• Negative criticism is NOT hating or trolling! For the love of... Please, do not mix up the two.
If you want to read about being a proper critic on suggestions rather than how to make them. Visit yoshi9048's scrumptious thread about it! Click this!
Special 9/23/2015 Update!
New Section: The Overachiever's Guide (Author: Cerroz)
Older 6/3/2015 Update!
New Section: If you want your thread locked, moved or deleted.
Older 5/28/2015 Update!
New Section: Negative Criticism and Defeat
"Do I seriously need to read this?"
I can't say every poster here needs this, but I would probably just say "yes" anyway. You might pick up some helpful pointers you haven't thought of before.
"Good god, why is this guide so long?"
A more valid question would be "This guide is as long as it needs to be. How did you accurately pull that off?"
This guide attempts to cover every possible thing, and if it doesn't, people make suggestions in this thread to cover more things so this guide is even better at covering everything.
You'll see that after these long images, there's still tons of sections to read. I put the titles there so you have a general idea of what mistakes and presentations you shouldn't make, and the description of those sections are put in spoilers just in case you don't understand a section.
"You know what? I don't need this guide. I'll be fine. I'm cool!"
But you entered this thread anyway. Okay then, no one can take over your free will and mentally force you to read this guide. Remember, that once you make that dumb thread about "new ores" and everyone is not supporting and digging into you. You'll understand why this thread is here.
"Omggg why is this guide so mean? =("
This guide is here to lay down the facts, not to make you feel good. A lot of the guide uses heavy exaggeration and omnidirectional attacks for the purpose of being satirical and humorous (which a lot of people love this guide for) but at the same time, drives the point home and how you shouldn't do the dumb stuff on this forum that people just keep doing.
Unless you are referred to specifically by name, you being offended by the guide is something on your end. And if a stickied thread is capable of offending you, then perhaps you need better training on dealing with the internet as a whole.
I will not feel a flicker of guilt for what I put in this guide, and I'll never redo the guide so it's "nicer to people". So reminding me of any nastiness you read here won't change anything. This guide would be much less popular if it weren't written the way it was.
The Suggestion Guide
In image form.
Optional Balance Guide
Made by 0_Zippy.
How to Properly Search
A lot of people have made redundant threads but actually did search beforehand. That mistake is most likely filtering the search wrong. Observe the image below:
The things highlighted in green are the basic needs. I think the bottom one is the most essential, because people have searched for topic names but didn't filter that to only the Suggestions forum, thus people end up getting results from every forum at once that share similar words in thread titles.
That aforementioned case causes threads from the Suggestion forum to be spread out too far, making people think that a specific suggestion thread isn't redundant. It's a pretty easy mistake to make.
If You Want Your Thread Locked, Moved or Deleted
For those who just want to put a thread out of its misery, or just moved.
If you want any of these three things to happen to your thread. All you have to do report your own post by... clicking "Report" at the bottom of your post, then choose this on the following screen (click to make bigger):
Note that you can also help out a new or inexperienced user get their thread moved to the right location before the original poster realizes the mistake, which can reduce confusion and complications in a thread a lot sooner. However, DO NOT tell the user that "they've been reported" as 1.) that's against the rules and 2.) they may take it the wrong way which can lead to revenge scheming.
And no, do simply edit your posts with "MOD, PLZ DELETE THREAD" while doing nothing else. You will embarrass yourself to death and accomplish nothing.
In the case of getting a thread locked or deleted... Understand that if you make a horrible thread, and then stop people from posting negative posts by asking a mod to lock your thread, you aren't exactly "out of the woods" nor are you hitting the reset button. The same goes for having a thread deleted, because a lot of us will still notice that (thread suddenly vanishing, some of our posts vanishing, etc...)
Do not think that getting your bad thread locked or deleted removes all the negativity from you. Only use these options if there's absolutely no hope in saving your thread, and posting in it will just horrify things more. Do not delete/lock your thread just because you goofed and can't handle a couple negative posts.
Suggestions Hall of Fame
Absolutely outstanding (and example) suggestions by brilliant posters.
Note to owners of these threads: Changing the thread title can screw up these links.
What does and doesn't "fit" in Minecraft?
"We already have jukeboxes and Creepers, so fighter jets would be fine!"
Credits
If for some very strange reason, you actually care about that.
Threads You Are Not Allowed to Make
Unless you have a "getting my own threads locked" fetish.
Excuses You Shouldn't Use (List is continued here!)
And you should feel bad if you use them.
Presentations You Need to Avoid (List is continued here!)
Because people may hate you a little if you don't avoid them.
Entire Posts in Big Text
Realize the cost of your suggestion.
Thank you, SamurottX
Generally Hated and Inferior Suggestions
Though sometimes, some of these suggestions can be made good. Keyword: Some.
This section has been moved to another post. Click this to go to it.
Negative Criticism and Defeat
Because we want revenge after seeing "No support." (Image)
The Overachiever's Guide
Made by Cerroz. This stuff is encouraged, but NOT required. (Unfinished)
This purpose of the rest of the guide is to not make a bad suggestion, often telling you how to go from "bad" to "good". The overachiever's guide tells you how to go from "good" to "much, much better". This is only one of two sub-guides not written by Theriasis (the other being 0_Zippy for making the balance guide), meaning this guide will be much more positive.
Ever play a video game that involves getting more than 100% completion? Or being able to earn better than a gold medal, which is usually a platinum one? This guide will try to help you get that. If you only care to make just decent, okay suggestions with "eh" amounts of work, this guide is not for you. Who is it for? The people who want their ideas to shine so hard that we can't look directly at it too fast, the kind that most likely make the suggestions hall of fame and get showered with "I support!" for many pages.
Note: Following the guide to a 'T' may also involve you having to learn program-using skills you haven't nailed down quite yet.
Apart from the suggestion being good, proper readability and formatting is one of the most desired things for the reader of a suggestion. If the format of a suggestion is too sloppy, it brings the integrity of the suggestion down. Format a suggestion like you want that A+ grade.
You can't really have a post without text, so you might as well arrange that text as beautifully as humanly possible. This includes good spelling, proper grammar and proper punctuation placement. If you have a long suggestion that has many stats, attributes and features, then it may be best to split that up into some nice sections with pretty headers.
The rest of the suggestions guide mentions how you need proper formatting, but this sub-guide will give much more ideas and insight to that. Make sure your suggestion is split up into nice sized paragraphs - not too long, not too short. Also, even though this part isn't as necessary, but if you can, make sure your paragraphs encompass points properly, rather than having single points splashed around multiple paragraphs, but that really depends on how you present it so that part isn't painfully important. That's a mixed bag.
If a paragraph is too short, it might not even be a paragraph at all and you probably can attach more to it. If it's too long, you could slowly bore reader's until the next paragraph hits. Paragraphs that are too long can overwhelm and "tire" the reader, as if you're telling a super long joke that should have reached a punchline 2 minutes ago, you don't want that. In other words, long paragraphs can come off as rambling. Even this very paragraph is probably boring you now. Sorry guys, do you forgive me?
Lastly, let's talk about headers. Headers are the most awesome way to split up and organize a suggestion. Make those headers nice and big, and if you want, a nice fitting easy-to-read color. For bonus points, maybe make an image of header text like I've been doing. Maybe slap another smaller image to match what the header reads for more bonus points, just don't overdo it and clutter it.
Note: To refine your post better, you may need to do some post editing in [BB] mode.
I'll give a brief here's-good-and-here's-bad example.
(Good Example) My mob idea is the Zombified Scorpion! They are only found in deserts and Desert Temples!
Appearance:
[insert image here]
Mind you, they can eerily change their color depending on day or night. They have a browner hue with black eyes in the daytime, and a dark blue hue with purple eyes at night (making them a bit harder to see during that time).
Very rarely, they can appear completely black, and this is when they are most dangerous. These ones are only found in Desert Temples.
Attributes and Behavior:
Health:
Daytime: 5 hearts
Nighttime: 10 hearts
Black: 17 hearts
Damage:
Daytime: 2 hearts
Nighttime: 3.5 hearts (10% chance to poison)
Black: 5 hearts (60% chance to poison + 20% chance for slowness)
Like black spiders, daytime scorpions will only attack if provoked. Nighttime and black ones will attack once they see you. Black scorpions have triple sight as that of any other regular hostile mob.
Drops:
All scorpions, as you could have guessed, drop their venomous tails. They can be used in dispensers as short range-only weapons when powered by redstone. They will not poison in this case.
All scorpions drop normal tails. Black scorpions drop black tails which do an extra 1hp of damage in dispensers, and can be used as a potion ingredient to turn a potion into the II version of whatever it is.
If you can manage to kill a scorpion just as it changes from brown to dark blue, you will get a "strange scorpion tail", which can be used to make a Potion of Madness, causing any affected mob to change disposition. It has no effect on players.
(Bad Example) Hello mcforums. My idea is a zombified scorpion, it's brown in daytime, blue at night and very rarely black in temples. they drop scorpion tails which can be put in dispensers and can hurt mobs for 1 damage except black scorpion tails that do 2 dmg.
you can also get an irregular tail if you kill a zombified scoprion as it changes from day to night. these new tails can make a potion of madness.
I personally think the best suggestions absolutely need some good images. There is no collection of words I can think of to express the fact that good suggestions should have this. Yes, it does give something pretty to look at and gives us more than just text, text and more text. But it also helps us readers dive into the mind of the suggester and makes us see what they want us to see. We see the suggester's vision. Ever have a good idea but couldn't express it good enough because others just need to see it?
If you want to show the readers how creative you are, you probably need to obtain some moderate to extreme image editing skills. In some lucky cases, you can find an image without needing to do so, but you making stuff yourself showcases how serious and skilled you are at giving ideas. Another thing people should know, is that even though an image brings home a point, it still might take some editing to make it look better. An example is images that have backgrounds... Let me just show you...
Are both images good? Sure. But chances are, you find the right one better as the background is transparent. The left one just comes off as being blockier while the right looks more defined and sleeker. Sometimes we need to apply that creative elbow grease to make an image shine a little more.
There's a special case for mob suggestions. If you want to make a model of the mob, you have two choices: the first one requires extremely critical and advanced 3D modeling with programs such as Maya or 3DS Max and very, very careful texturing work. Or... the second choice, which requires almost no 3D modeling skill at all and involves a program made specifically for Minecraft in mind called Techne! See? Uncle Cerroz helps you out.
In the case of sprites, it's pretty easy. Just make a pixelish 16x16 image, and resize it. In most image editing programs, there are options such as "Bicubic" and "Bilinear" resizing, but "Pixel Resize" or "Nearest Neighbor" ensures the image will be nice, sharp/pixelly with no blur. Just make sure to resize it in dimensions divisible by 16.
Sadly, this guide covers just suggestions and won't provide a tutorial on how to use these programs. Some quick Google or Youtube searches will get you on the right track. Don't worry, Techne doesn't take long to understand. It's a pretty simplistic program. Another note, make sure your images are relevant. If your mob is based on a Chinese insect, you only need to post a picture of the insect, not a picture of China.
If you want an idea to make the suggestions hall of fame, good images are absolutely required!!
Image Formats (Added 9/28/05)
Anyone who has been using the internet for a week probably know of all image formats. The most sought after and prominent format is PNG, because it a.) has a very small filesize and b.) can support any type of transparency (being 'index' and 'alpha'). JPEG is also fine, assuming the image is not too compressed and transparency is not needed.
A GIF file can work if you make an animated image, but take note that those kind of files have very exclusive amounts of colors and there's no working around that. GIF images are 8-bit only and can only support this amount of colors: 3, 7, 15, 31, 63, 127 and 255. A GIF can make an image very grainy and loss-of-colors, so optimize it wisely. GIF files can only support 'index' transparency, so you can't have an opaque slowly blend into transparency (which is 'alpha' transparency). It's only 100% transparency and 100% opaque. No in-betweens.
"But Cerroz, is it possible to have both alpha transparency and animation?" Yes there is. There is a very unique image format known an APNG, but making these kind of files can be very tedious and tricky, and may require many tries before you get them just right. Also, APNG files are not supported by all browsers, so some users only see the first frame, and not a full animation. Sadly, you can't have everything.
There are too many good programs out there to name them all. The most obvious one is Adobe Photoshop. For GIF's, I use Jasc Animation Shop, which is not one of the better programs, but it's one of the easiest to use. Note that Photoshop can make GIF's too, but it might take a smidge longer for you. For APNG files, APNG Assembler is a solid choice.
When you're being an overachiever and stretching your arms out because you're trying to feel the cold medal of that platinum medal just out of reach, you can't just have a good idea, you gotta have the pizzazz to present it beautifully as well.
Talk about eating your cake and presenting it too right? And... maybe still eating it. It's cool you gave us the awesome idea, but can you explain it so cleverly and smoothly that you can hook us more and more, making the idea triply more irresistible?
If you happen to be a clever writer, or just a clever speaker, chances are you're gonna nail this part of the suggestion. There's a difference between "Here's an idea you'll all like." and "Alright, I'm gonna need everyone to sit down. If I'm gonna be serving this good idea cake to all of you, you can't crowd around me. Look at the cake though! It's got a picture of a unicycle lizard on it!" If you truly believe you're funny, you can use that humor as well.
Language Barrier
I think it's safe to say that you already know this forum is English based. If English is not your primary language and you are struggling with it, my advice is this: hang in there. It's understandable you won't master a language just so you can make a good suggestion, but I advise giving your suggestion a rough draft to an English-speaking person.
As the very top of Theriasis' guide states, if we can't handle negativity, we shouldn't make a thread at all. Though you soon-to-be-overachievers know this already. Don't be afraid of negative reception. Grab it! Use it! That feedback is your ultimate ticked to make a gold suggestion into a diamond.
I can promise you that the most famous suggestions did not start out as refined as they are now, and if they did, they probably have a lot to improve anyway. I personally get a bit worried if I get no negative responses sprinkled in here and there, because I don't get to see what to fix in my idea.
If you get too much factual negative responses and the core of your suggestion has been proven to be a bad idea, it may be best to move on to a different idea. As not all ideas can be repaired.
If someone makes a very long post stating negatives on your idea and you want to prove them wrong, then respond to all of the points. If you just "respond to what you want" and skip over many negative points, that can showcase laziness and that you're trying to avoid negativity. That is not the kind of attention you want. If you can't refute a factual point, then openly admit that the critic is correct, and if possible, try to fix what said critic brought up.
This is the most unique section of this sub-guide, as this is this without a doubt the most rare thing ever seen in a suggestion. Some suggesters have uploaded videos helping explain an idea, but maybe once or twice has one gone through the effort of making one, uploading it and presenting it.
Provided your idea is actually good, making a good video will put your chances of a hall of fame place at roughly 95%. As expected, providing such a thing will require some serious effort. The video editing software I use is Sony Vegas, but if you have basic knowledge of video editing, almost any software will do. Even something basic like Windows Movie Maker can work.
I made a short video for my Ancient Zombie suggestion, and it wasn't anything spectacular, but it was still awesome to see in a suggestion. Here it is:
If you can manage to animate your mob and put that in a video or .gif image, then you are in. Like. Flint.
tl;dr - Use your brain and don't embarrass yourself.
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Last content edit: 23 Sep. 2015
Recently altered portions:
Added more content under the "Channel Habits" and "Content Habits" lists.
If you have not yet read "Minecraft Has Been Butchered By YouTube," and plan to discuss on this thread, please use the link below:
I also encourage you to read the replies, as it shows that our ideology becomes more refined as we progress.
The purpose of this thread is to give examples of what we believe good content looks like. Here are some founding principles:
The next four lists are lists of habits that qualify good videos and a good channel:
General video-to-video habits:
)Channel habits:
Content habits:
General demeanor:
"Woah, woah, wait a minute. What are you doing, telling me how to act?"
Just hang on a sec. These habits show that you are mature and have positive personal qualities. Changing your personality is wrong, but not the way you act. There's a difference. In turn, you will have a healthy channel with awesome videos. (90% guarantee it.) Note: These are not actions to overhaul your current demeanor. They are things to weave into your current demeanor.
Special thanks to the contributors to our lists above:
Writr
Teesee
RobertFrans
GiselleGewelle
TehSageOfGames
Fortanono
(and me!)
And finally, the list of ideas. These will be the top (no set number) ideas for YouTube Minecraft videos. These are put in order of when the idea came up, not how good it is. Ideas can be small or ambitious. But it needs to be original, creative, and appropriate. The ideas should also be things that are not often done, if at all.
If you think any of these should be removed, edited, or that another should be added, post a suggestion.
Here is a list of people who have pledged to make Minecraft YouTube a better place:
(To be added, say "I pledge to better myself, my channel, and Minecraft with every video.")
Use this banner in your signature. If you want, you can also put what I have in my signature, which is our final guiding principle.
Final note: YouTubers aren't the only people that influence YouTube. Viewers are an equal or greater force (depending on the situation). And viewers comment. If you are a viewer (which I assume you are), I suggest looking at the thread below.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/off-topic/culture-media-arts/2522608-a-guide-to-youtube-commenting
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Hello guys. I'm here today to share a great production I did almost alone, in GTA San Andreas and a couple of other games. Whoever likes fan movie productions, I'd might say you could give a shot on this one.
007: Hellfire - Reloaded is a remake of a previous project of mine, that I had already produced on GTA San Andreas and also another games like 007 Nightfire. Being on-topic, it is the remake of my first fan film, called Hellfire. I wanted to remake it because I don't really like the first version of it, so I decided to get it remade in a new skin and new storyline. So much better than the 1st one.
Duration: 2 hours
Cast: Daniel Craig, Angelina Jolie, Katee Sackhoff, Matt Damon, Naomie Harris as Moneypenny, Ben Wishaw as Q and Ralph Fiennes as M.
Synopsis: June 2014. Two days ago, two aircrafts were stolen from an american carrier. Both contained nuclear missiles, though only one was shot. This one burned Seattle down to pieces.
The MI-6 thinks that the other missile would be a smaller prototype for something bigger, and that it'll be launched soon. The last trace of the missile was over Las Vegas. That's where Bond is going and will find a CIA agent, Audrey Guille (Angelina Jolie), which will help him. She informs him that Caligulas Casino is where the suspect of the Seattle's attack, Allex Satoma, is at. After investigating, he learns that he's an USA colonel, but which might have a connection to Quantum and Silva. Bond knows that there's too much more than just a missile to be launched, which due to circunstances, causes and even possibilities, it might bring a world war III between USA and Russia.
Just so you know, the story events happens between Skyfall and Spectre and has some connections with my previous 2 Bond fan-films.
I've took 6 months to produce this film until it gets to its better state and look fine. I've used games such as 007 Legends, GTA San Andreas, Ace Combat: Assault Horizon and Driver San Francisco. There are explosions scenes made on After Effects and optimized on Sony Vegas 13, along with the whole movie.
I hope you guys like it!
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Many animals have certain names for large groups of them, such as a murder of crows or a flutter of butterflies, but I was wondering if Minecraft mobs had official group names. I do know that a group of Endermen is called a haunting, but I have some ideas for others. Keep in mind that for animals such as pigs that exist in real life, there are already real group names, so I have included these in the list. IF ANY MOBS ALREADY HAVE GROUP NAMES THAT I DIDN'T KNOW, PLEASE TELL ME.
If you have some other ideas, comment please!
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I've got 3 answers for OP:
Eternal Alpha Business Model:
I am old enough to remember a time when games had no betas, demos, patches, updates, DLC or any other kind of change subsequent to first release. It's not that hard to imagine, basically it's how most media work: you buy a book or a CD, or go watch a movie, and you don't have re-read, re-listen or re-watch those because they're always the same.
Then things changed. At first it was patches because new games were buggier and buggier at release (a whole can of worms in itself that I won't discuss here), but nobody complained because they made the game more playable. Than it was DLC, and still not many complained because it was new content on top of the same old game, and who doesn't like a little novelty?
Then it was "release it unfinished then keep working on the game forever", that often translates in "nobody knows if the game will be ever complete". This new eternal alpha business model, that Minecraft made popular, has many pros for developers, which can profit on the game even before is finished and don't get bashed too much for bugs or broken/missing features, nor are pressured about giving an ETA (sooon™), but have little pros for gamers: you get an unfinished product for less money, but you're not granted it will get better and, especially, that it will stay the same.
Now, most people don't understand or don't accept this new business model. Someone may be stuck in the traditional media model (product that don't change), but I think most of those just feel that the whole concept of "game" is about getting good at it, and how can you get good if rules, tools and goals keep changing, sometimes laying waste on what you already accomplished in the past? This is even worse for a game able to support MP tournament games, where rules and goals are shared and must be the always the same. Can you imagine playing football with a ball that keeps changing shapes match after match, and then suddenly they release Football 1.6 making the old score system incompatible so the whole tournament has to start all over again? Torches and pitchforks.
We'll see how this model will evolve with time. IMO it isn't doing too well considering the growing outrage by gamers tired of constant re-balancing that makes old successful tactics no longer working, not to mention developers that "forget" about finishing the game after taking the money.
Opposition is always more vocal than agreement:
Outrage gives you enough emotive energy to do something, while satisfaction doesn't, you're just good as is. It's an old feature of human psychology, nothing new to see here. And we're talking about a "community" full of people constantly taking Mojang's defenses here, it would be much worse with a less loyal supporting base.
Most outrage comes from people used to be listened to:
It's always the big servers the one who complains more vocally; remember the EULA drama that allegedly caused Notch to sell Mojang, or the Bukkit fiasco? Most of Minecraft's success comes from YouTube videos and the huge modding scene; both would be much smaller without the big, influential servers. Servers make Mojang sell more copies of the game, and they know it (even if they're not to eager to admit it sometimes).
Problem is: servers know they're influential too, and they used this perk a lot of times, for example asking for certain mods or features to get implemented in the game, leaving SSP basically neglected for years since single players don't talk as a group and have no contractual power. They're basically used to get what they want if they stomp their feet hard enough. I don't blame them, I blame a game developing company taken hostage by their customers.
Now, combat is a big part of the SMP world because once you built that big castle what you're gonna do? Wait for XP grinders to make you reach 100th level? No, you go PvP and face the only proper challenge this game has to offer: other players.
This people spent years refining the skills needed to be competitive at PvP; you could say it's a matter of ping or that Minecraft's combat mechanics are too simple to require skill, but you'd be wrong: the simpler and inefficient the tools, the harder is to make something out of it. If you ever played PvP on a big server you'll know what I mean: an expert player with your exact same gear and same ping will mop the floor with you.
Now imagine to be this player and being told "Hey, you know what? The skills you refined in the last 3 years of competitive games are now useless".
Outrage is the bare minimum you should expect as a developer instead of resorting on that apparently smart but quite naive "Jeb's law". As an adult person with a bare minimum of business skills, I would be afraid of customer leaving the ship and making bad publicity to my product, at least.
So, even if I was asking for something like 1.9 to happen for a long time, and kinda liking what they're doing, I'm understand why the outrage is happening.
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I joined in October of 2010.
I've seen a lot of really, really bad updates to Minecraft.
This is not one of them.
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As some of you may have noticed, I am no longer actively supporting this suggestion (although I'd still like to see it in-game). That means no new content will be added to this thread. Thanks for all the support! I'm surprised this thread is still alive.
For the lazy ones:
To modders:
Okay, so... I was thinking about new decoration blocks to be added in minecraft, when I thought about skull candles.
These ''candles'' would be crafted with a torch on top of a skull. They will both serve as a new light source and a decoration. Breaking a skull candle would give back a skull and a torch. They would also generate in strongholds and at the bottom of desert temples.
There is also a Nether variant: the Wither skull candle (very original name *cough*)! They are crafted the same way as a normal skull candle (but with a Wither skull) and breaking them gives back a Wither skull and a torch. They wouldn't generate anywhere, because it would be too easy to get wither skull to spawn The Wither. It would also be impossible to spawn the Wither with them.
Both types will be destroyed if water or lava attempts to flow through the skull candles. Like heads, they can be placed in 16 different directions and on walls. However, you cannot wear it on your head.
There is a Redstone variant for both the normal Skull and the Wither one. Like normal Redstone torches, they emit a dim light and give off Redstone power.
Appearances:
Models:
Crafting Recipes:
As suggested by PatDay, The redstone variant could be turned off by right-clicking, allowing for secret switches (however, to make the switch secret, it would only work with the glowing version of the Redstone Skull Candle).
What do you guys think? You may leave some feedback if you'd like to, I'm not forcing you.
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It's a neat idea...but I don't see Mojang adding this any time soon. It's too-specific of a tool that doesn't really do much for vanilla Minecraft.
Also, don't bump a year-old thread for diddly-squat of a purpose. Just let it die.
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Let's just see how shields play out before we start trying to add entirely new ones and whatnot. Nothing is set in stone as far as how the shields will actually end up working; it seems a bit silly to start suggesting NEW shields already.
I do think it would be neat if you could attack with shields to stun enemies (a la Skyrim), but I don't think there should be an entirely new enchantment for it.
No support.
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This is a wishlist. Please read the rules before creating threads, especially when there are others with these exact suggestions already in them.
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I think that another reason why some people are becoming so vocal is BECAUSE this game has become so popular and massive. If Minecraft did not have as large a fanbase, this update wouldn't be considered a problem; not to mention if said fanbase was slightly older.
A large portion of the naysayers seem to be kids, teenagers. They aren't used to games actually changing things (because while many games are now doing that Early Access nonsense, the games barely change between then and final release), and Minecraft hasn't had any significant mechanical changes since 1.0 (nearly 4 years ago, when enchanting was first introduced). Since then a LOT of people have bought the game, and so to them this update is changing what they're used to - but that's what Minecraft thrives off of. I've been playing since before the Nether even existed, before beds, back when bows just spammed arrows...Minecraft exists BECAUSE of change. That might not mean that everything is perfect, but it does mean that this is something players should get used to with this game. It's going to happen, one way or another.
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Could caves use a little more variety? Absolutely.
Is this a bit too much that would serve better as a mod and/or adventure map? Absolutely.
Obviously Minecraft caves could use a little bit of work in making them so that they aren't all so same-y. That being said, I feel like this suggestion just tries too hard to add too much; we don't need a bajillion new cave types/biomes that will need fleshing out. But that's just my opinion.
No support.
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Tactics change. I'm not sure if you mean "there will be no tactics any more" which is the dumbest argument I've heard (because, if anything, this update will mean more tactics than ever) or "none of the old tactics will work any more" which is equally as silly because tactics always change. In any game, players are forced to change tactics in order to get an edge on other players; it's just the nature of things.
Now, on that topic of Diamond Hoes doing more DPS:
Straight from the Minecraft 1.9 Wiki. They recently re-balanced weapons so that it wasn't as ridiculous, meaning that, as you can see, the Dia Sword still reigns supreme.
I will concede on one argument, and that is that the cooldown. Admittedly the cooldown seems a bit silly and awkwardly-forced right now, but considering that it was JUST implemented, who would think any better. Not to mention that they do seem focused on rebalancing things so that you DON'T have players running around with Dia Hoes slaughtering everyone.
Again, I reiterate: people are needlessly complaining. It is clear that Mojang is actively working towards balancing everything out, and since things have worked out nicely in the past...why not have some faith in them?
Also, I like that we are able to have a respectful conversation now.
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And now you've just negated any previous argument you made, because rather than try to have a respectful dialogue as I was attempting, you have chosen to be rude and, quite frankly, childish.
- Fishing rods were more of a joke weapon, anyways, so not sure why you're so hung up on that.
- A lingering potion can only be made from Dragon's Breath, which is something I doubt most servers are going to just leave around for everyone to obtain. Especially PvP servers; they can easily just keep it from being obtainable. So, once again, you are choosing to flip out over something that can easily be made impossible to obtain without even any mods. Well done there.
- Shields are meant as a defensive object: not only do they only protect your front, but they slow you down significantly, meaning that someone without a shield can easily kite around the back and take them out if they play it smart. Or just pincer them from behind with two players. Honestly, shields are hardly OP.
- You do come across as hung up on what this one person says because you keep bringing him up like he's some sort of demigod. Thus far, most of us here are in agreement that we haven't even heard of that guy or any other "good PvP'ers" (whatever that's supposed to mean) who are legitimately complaining and providing rational arguments besides "rip pvp" (which is not a decent argument against the update, I might add).
- I never said that PvP was never there. I said that the current rendition of Minecraft's PvP was not there back in Alpha/Beta territory. If you truly have been playing since then, you would know! PvP has changed dramatically since back in the day, with the addition of a lot of different things and alterations to core mechanics that changed how people play. The same is true with this update.
- I noticed you avoided my "Minecraft changes" argument, as well. I take that either to mean you agree with me, or just can't actually come up with anything to counter it.
This update, contrary to popular belief, is actually going to make things better. Let's take a look at another game that is SOLELY PvP focused: Team Fortress 2.
In TF2, there are 9 different classes one can play, each class balanced so as to have their own tactics and strategies; within those classes there are more items that make it so that players can play the same class different ways - Engies can be offensive or defensive, Demomen melee-based or not, etc. You get the idea. TF2 has been around since 2007 with a massive community, and you know why? Because in addition to Valve updating it, it has VARIETY. Variety makes it so that there are a number of different strategies and techniques that can be used, making no game 100% the same.
Mojang is doing much the same with Minecraft. They are allowing for more strategies and variety to the game. In removing spam-clicking, they are making it so players have to THINK about what it is they are doing. If a player has a shield, an enemy has to think about how to go around that player. If a player is an archer, you have to think about how best to stay out of their line of sight. If a player has a ton of potions, you have to think about it. This update is actually going to make PvP better because it will force people to actually have to think about what their doing, rather than mindlessly smashing their mouse-click to attack.
Insulting someone by saying "you have no idea what you're talking about" makes you look like a fool if you aren't actually going to make a logical argument. I have created counter-arguments against each of your individual points; I suggest you look at them and try to make a rational statement before just spewing nonsense out of your mouth again.
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Hoes aren't really that OP to begin with; if you look at the DPS comparisons, the sword still wins out.
Y'know, there are some euphemisms that could be made there...
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If only I could upvote you more.
I joined just before the Nether update way back when. Yeah, a bunch of updates were random, poorly-planned, horribly buggy, and made absolutely no sense. The 1.9 update is the opposite. They are gathering community feedback, taking their sweet time to make sure things are actually functional when it releases, and actively working to make it more balanced and fun. This is gonna be a great update.
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Quite frankly, I find all of the people who are hating on this update to be a bit rubbish.
Think about how PvP has been in the past. All it has required is to spam-click with a sword and hope for the best. Okay, yes, there was strafing, crits, knockback and whatnot, but in the end it was just about how well you could spam-click. Bows were more or less the same in that you could spam arrows to your heart's content.
Now, let's break down some of the changes they are making, and see how it actually IMPROVES combat by adding variety, depth, and some actual complexity into it.
Off-handed shields
From what I can gather, shields are basically a replacement for the somewhat-useless parrying feature swords had in that they can block attacks, occasionally causing an enemy player to be knocked back, and slowing down the player holding the shield. This allows for some more variety in player attack types - rather than just having people running around with swords, you can have a proper "Tank" player in powerful armor and with a shield, who can more or less absorb a lot of hits while allowing other faster players to deal damage.
Is this good? YES
Different weapon attacks/cooldown
As revealed in the update from yesterday, different tools/weapons now deal different amounts of damage and have a slight cooldown for when you can attack again. Hoes, for example, deal very little damage but have a very fast cooldown, meaning a lot of damage quickly. Swords are still the dominant weapon with the most DPS, but in a short amount of time the axe can still probably deal more, dealing 11 damage/hit versus the swords 7. Once again, this allows for more variety and actually makes tools and items slightly more unique in how they operate, allowing for more player customization in their attack styles.
Is this good? YES
Different arrow types
Arrows now come in several different varieties, and can have potion effects added to them. This allows for archers to be more deadly with attacks, not to mention be helpful for teammates (as I believe that your teammates can see anyone/thing outline by a spectral arrow). Once again, this makes PvP more diverse in the possibilities it creates.
Is this good? Yes
Yes, there are more aspects being changed, and there are still some kinks Mojang has to work out (mostly the fact that the off-hand is relatively useless for PvP right now), but overall the changes are making things better for Minecraft's PvP.
From what I am seeing, most of the people who are complaining are those who are used to modern gaming where it babies you and allows you breeze through a game without any effort. Minecraft used to be the same way, but now they are actually changing it so that the game is challenging, which, quite frankly, is what makes a game FUN.
So get over it.