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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
    Quote from TheFieldZy

    1)No. If its made to stand higher temperature is will be able to stay less failure prone under those conditions.

    2) Yes, but it would still be cheaper to get a newer graphics card when it comes out that is mid ranged. GTX 580s will be old news and probably still overpriced.

    3) I'm sorry you were spoiled as a child and that it will ruin every moment of your life onward. Have fun with your oodles of money and lack of friends.



    Ahem, aren't you polite. I don't see why this argument must continue, we are all in agreement that the ultimate computer in terms of processing power, would be either dual Xenon's at this time, or in the future dual DB's or Ivy's. If your really dedicated, throw in four Nvidia Tesla's, and I would say your close to about 10 grand at that point.

    As for your response on 3, sure I am the one with no friends. I actually have friends in real life, In your case I don't believe your dedicated bash group on a forums counts. As for being spoiled, no. I work for my money. I also consider that flaming.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
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    So basically, you're willing to get a ton worse cpu from AMD instead of the 990 extreme, just because it's normal operating temperature is higher?



    Worse? No, AMD processors are not bad, they may not be the absolute best, but as I said, my beef with Intel is not over there processors, but over their company. Also, the new wave of processors is coming, why blow $1000 bucks on something soon to be outdated. I love spending money, but not over something that stupid.

    Also, AMD processors are a bunch of fun to overclock, Intel's just lay back and take it, AMD's will kick and scratch you before they give up a 4 GHz and above clocking, that's what I like to see.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Help building a computer
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    560 Ti is pretty much the only worth to pay gpu from nvidia. 460's are now more expensive than 6850, and 570 is just overpriced, you can get 6970 with the money of it.



    460 is a great card though, a bunch of fun to overclock as well, it really starts putting up a fight when you get over 850 core, and you can push further. I got to 900 stable in some games, but others like Crysis 2 crashed in a few minutes. And thats on a reference card, the PNY XLR8
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
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    1) No no no. If it can stand higher temps the CPU cooler doesn't have to work as hard to keep it cool. Who cares about noise? Buy headphones

    2) And when will this happen? Not soon. You will probably have completely new parts including a new graphics card by the time that happens.

    3) Its good to own a boat, better to have a friend that owns a boat. Nulled your analogy. You are wrong. Its better, more cost effective, and gives you overall better performance to buy a cheaper graphics card and upgrading it later. Yes, you do need a good budget to get a good computer, but that doesn't necessarily mean you need to get the best parts. Prepare for what you need and nothing more. Expensive air cooling gives better performance than expensive closed loops too!




    1) The cooler your processor runs the less failure prone it is, and the less chance for performance degradation.

    2) If it can run 20-30 FPS on a mid-range laptop, I am sure two GTX 580's will do the trick.

    3) In that case, someone has to be the friend, I can now blow my uncles mind away with giving him the change to max out Crysis at 60 fps, something he could never do (he bought a mac, lol)
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on New computer. Is it worth it?
    APU's=not so good. Especially for overclocking, its much easier than you think to fry those stream processors.

    Better to just buy a standard processor like a 955 (or wait for BD) and just buy a high end graphics card.

    Edit: Oh, this is a laptop, seen this before, but I believe there are complaints the dual graphics is not even enabled.

    Also, laptops=not so good.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on GT 520 or HD 5570?
    Quote from TheFieldZy

    My benchmarks care to disagree:

    Rosewill Fort120 vs. Corsair H50

    Other benchmarks

    Great coolers like the Coolermaster V6GT, NZXT HAVIK 140, and the thermalright Archon just destroy it.



    That is on an i7, the computer in question is AMD. Water cooling loops are also significantly less quiet (sadly for me, I like my computer sounding like a jet, yet it emits less than probably a decibel of sound at full load.)
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
    Quote from TheFieldZy

    1) Why?

    2) That had nothing to do with my point. Its cheaper to get a graphics card thats cheaper and get another for SLI or crossfire and give you the same performance in the end. You are losing money.

    3)you do realize that most air coolers of the same price as water coolers show better temps?


    1) It reduces the work your CPU cooler must go through, reducing noise (if your into silent builds, mine makes 0 noise at 100% gaming load)

    2) Losing money is relative, better to be future proof for when voxel rendering goes mainstream.

    3) So buy an expensive closed loop water system. Computers are holes in the ground to throw money at, its like a boat, if you want a good one, you have to part with your money.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Help building a computer
    Nioce, but drop the 560 and go for either a 460 or 570.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on BF3
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    Why wouldn't they? Alpha tests, albeit not 100% true, showed that the GTX 560 Ti, was the last card in the row of the ones that could play BF3 on maximum settings on about 30-40 FPS. Are you saying they should get a GTX 570? That's where the price:performance ratio drops heavily.



    Well, 30-40 FPS is really not that much, it is completely playable in a game like Crysis, but that game also uses frame blending, it is unlikely that BF3 will have that, and with some of the multiplayer maps it must render, looks a bit bleak to me.


    Also, for everyone upset about Origin, you really shouldn't be.

    1) EA still puts games up on Direct2Drive, which is usually 50% of purchase price or less, and its a fully licensed game.

    2) If launched through Steam, there is a large change the overlay will still be active, meaning you can still organize games with friends.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on GT 520 or HD 5570?
    Quote from TheFieldZy

    thats if he wants to waste money on a mediocre cooler. Air coolers of the same price work much better. CM hyper 212+ is the best price to performance cooler on the market.



    Many professionals would disagree with that claim.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
    Quote from TheFieldZy

    1) 990X is stable under hot conditions though

    2)Why waste your money on such an expensive graphics card when you can get a cheaper one that will give you the same performance (not the same FPS, but they will most likely be above the refresh rate of your monitor)

    3)Closed loop water systems are a waste of money. Custom loops are the way to go.


    1) Doesn't matter, its better to build it to run cooler *cough* AMD *cough* than simply building it to tolerate hotter conditions.

    2) Tearing only really occurs in excess of 200 FPS, and the smoother, the better.

    3) I would agree in almost all cases, but they are also not bad. 58C is completely acceptable, which is what I am running on an old H50. (full load) My next build will be in a cube with a 4 radiator triple kit. That means a loop for graphics, CPU, RAM, and either HDD's, or possibly I will stick a PS3 in there and water cool that as well (yes its possible)
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on Best Computer Avaliable
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    Ok, where's your i7 990 extreme? You know it will beat any AMD processor by a mile? Oh, sorry, I forgot that AMD's are the best processors in the world O.o

    Seriously, get rid of that cocky attitude and stop pretending you know everything from everything. After that, someone might actually take you seriously.


    990 runs hot, nuff said.


    Quote from Mojave

    Lol.

    I doubt you have the money to buy all this junk.

    Two ROG Mars II's? I doubt. Only the cards themselves will equal about 4000 US Dollars. And do not take any offence by this, but I really do doubt you have that kind of money.


    I could, but TBH I am not that interested in them, they don't look all that appetizing, and as I said, dual-gpu cards are way less reliable than a simply SLI setup.

    This is what I plan to pick up, the 1.5 GB is a bit of a limiting factor, but I like them because of how much fun they look to OC.
    http://www.newegg.co...AG-_-14-121-429

    but Bulldozer and a new closed loop cooling system comes first. I am thinking the Antec 920.
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    Aug 19, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on GT 520 or HD 5570?
    Still, pick up an H50 or H70 so you can do yourself a bit of OC-ing. Good luck.
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    Aug 18, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on HD version of ModernCraft Texture Pack.
    Try this pack, you wont regret it. http://www.planetminecraft.com/texture_pack/64x-utd-modernreality/
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    Aug 18, 2011
    Wolffe posted a message on GT 520 or HD 5570?
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    You understand how bad that GT520 is lol? Either way you should be looking for a better build with a 5770 or better like i said. Also if he overclocks the 925 it wont bottle neck I use to have one at 3.7ghz and two gtx460s and it ran great.



    Yeah, but a 925 is much more dated than the 965, I understand the GT 520 sucks balls, but the 5770 is no lightning card either, go with the 955, and you wont regret it. Drop 200-400 bucks on GTX 460(s) and you wont be disappointed, I recommend the PNY XLR8's, they are very overclockable.
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