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I have been checking around the forums for quite a while and here in the seeds section there are a few misconceptions about seeds and random world generation in general:

Sometimes when people submit a seed and see great stuff in their seed they think they have found something unique or incredible. While it is true that maybe your spawn is AWESOME the seed might either not be that special or actually be pretty awesome but the spawn could be crappy...

If you download the AMIDST program:

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/626786-v2016-amidst-strongholds-village-biome-ect-finder/

you will see that there are literally THOUSANDS of NPC villages on every single map... and that said map is practically INFINITE. I say practically, because eventually the map will get so big that the game will start lagging and become unplayable... (The more you uncover or explore in your map the more memory it takes to run, that is what that size besides the world name means in your world selection screen)

so, it is kinda funny when people get so excited with an NPC village or an extreme hills biome when there are so many... I'll show you a snapshot of the famous "gimmeabreak" seed and you can be the judge:



Ok, if you make the picture regular size, you will see that there are 136 NPC villages in that screen alone, along with the 3 and ONLY 3 Strongholds (yes there are only 3, here you go: http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Stronghold ) in the entire map. The slightly enlarged Testificate head, represents the village you famously spawn in and all the different colors on that map are the biomes in your world. SO, every single one of those orange areas is an Extreme Hills biome with all those EPIC AWESOME MOST INCREDIBLE OMGWTFBBQ Mountains you see on posts daily...

The top left corner of the map is coords: x= -14784 z= -5600 and the bottom right coords are x= 8864 z= 9470 and that is one single screen if we scroll directly east one screen, we get this:



We come to another continent with 75 more villages and many more biomes. The coord counts here are already in the 30k's. In the same way you can keep scrolling in any direction and get more land and enormous oceans...

So, we can literally go to x= 500,000 z= 300,000 and still find new land being generated.

"Well then, what's the use of seeds then?" you might say...

Seeds are still important, because that entire almost infinite world will always generate the same based on that seed and it is completely unique, so no two worlds are the same, no matter how large they are. And secondly, because the spawns are now ABSOLUTE in MC 1.0.0 (and have been for a while) so you will always spawn in the same place, with only a block or two of variation.

So the spawn is pretty damn important, because you will usually set up your base close to it, and it's important that there is a good assortment of resources within easy reach of you.

NOBODY is going to walk to x= 1,000,000 z= 678,000 on a map, unless you use Single Player Commands and teleport there, which is a nice experiment if you still don't believe:

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/94310-100-single-player-commands-v301/

Download it, and when you spawn in your favorite or currrent seed, type in say:
/t 50,000 64 50,000 and see if you don't spawn there :smile.gif:

Does this make seed hunting obsolete if pretty much every single seed has every single awesome Minecraft sight, cave and ravine EVENTUALLY if you are willing to walk, fly or swim in some random direction?

Absolutely not!

Because all seeds are unique, they are all unique experiences in their own way and the randomness of the worlds, the exploration and the charm of Minecraft we all love.

So, sorry for the big pics and the longwinded explanation, maybe a lot of you already knew this, but I hope this helps newcomers to the game to not get that fixated with their seed maybe being "broken" or something like that and just go out there and explore!

You might just turn the corner and find one of those sights that gives you that warm fuzzy feeling and makes you remember why we all love Minecraft so much.

Happy Exploring and many to all! :smile.gif:

Playing a cracked client... Pay for the game, man... what a loser...

Quote from boybente

All you need are 2 buckets of water. Im Not Talking about the Diagonal Thing,WRONG!

You Need To Make A Letter T in any block


=No Water
Also Dont Put Water on the bottom of the T

The Texture pack is Sphax. I can't believe you guys still don't know Spahx's... :huh.gif:

Also, the problem some people are having is this:

gimmieabreak = snow next to lava

gimmeabreak = inside house of village

Notice there is an extra "I" in the first one.

And this:

Quote from melol234

you need to put both map seed AND name, seed= map generation, name= where you spawn

Wow, that is one of the best contenders for BS-outta-my-ass facts that are running for winner of the BS olympics...

What you name your seed has nothing to do with ANYTHING...

Seeds are now ABSOLUTE spawns and 99% exactly the same for everyone ALL THE TIME... what changes is maybe now a tree is missing some leaves or an extra block here and there, or small cosmetic changes...

When they are not, it's because of these:

1. You are not running the same version of MC as the poster of the seed.
2. The poster gave the wrong seed.
3. You entered the seed wrong. (Capitalization changes the whole seed. Gimmeabreak is a whole different seed than gimmeabreak, try it...)
4. You entered the seed wrong.
5. You entered the seed wrong.

On a different note, I hope people are not playing 1.8.1 a year from now... I hope everyone is just waiting for their favorite mods to update...

This is probably the single most essential mod for this game, in my opinion... I have no idea why it hasn't been officially implemented.

A minimap, along with a way to compact redstone into blocks, making gold more useful and making Lapis actually be for ANYTHING useful are my main requests for MC :smile.gif:

CONFIRMED! This seed works on Minecraft 1.0 WOOT!

Hey guys! found this seed just creating random worlds:

1304291476

Coords for underworld entrance:

+48, +203

EDIT: After serious consideration and exploration and from suggestions from forum members I have decided to name this seed. It is now officially called:

UNDERWORLD

THIS IS FOR RC2, so don't go, "it doesn't work, you suck coal!" or "this seed is as useful as Lapis Lazuli!" meanwhile you are running alpha or 1.8 or something...

Maybe it works in other versions, but I haven't checked...

Also, this is NOT another freaking ravine... It is an honest to goodness vertical shaft that leads to a huge underground cave network.

You spawn in a small swampy area, if you head North eastish you will see this:


If you get closer, you see this small hole in the floor (where the spy chickens are) be sure to grab enough chickens and food from the surface, before you go in:


A forest nearby gives you the opportunity to prepare yourselves with enough wood before you go down:


This is one of MANY entrances to this "underworld". This is going in:


When the vertical shaft starts:


Keeps going deeper:


And here we are at the "entrance to the underworld"


Exposed ore everywhere, lava illuminated cavern in the back


The branches and caves down here (SO MANY! I AM LOST!) take you all the way down to level 10, which is the naturally generated "bottom" of the world, from there it's just 4 down to bedrock:


Now a WARNING!! There is a lot of lava lakes and waterfalls everywhere, so be careful! DON'T DIG DOWN, SILLY!


Don't say I didn't warn you!

The outside of the underworld is your average, run-of-the-mill extreme hills biome, just in case you are into that... But there are enough animals around to keep you stocked with food, leather, wool, milk and BACON!


Also if you play in anything other than peaceful, the place is so big and deep, all 200 hostile mobs will be down there with you, so come prepared... And you can get lost very easily, so use the tried and true torch method of putting them on the right while going in, so you can follow them on the left to get out... (free tip for noobs)

(Bonus tip) If you make sure to illuminate every nook and cranny while stripping the place bare, you can later build a very nice mob trap in here, since the place goes all the way to bedrock and all the way to the sky (just make sure to illuminate the overworld too)

Also making a branch mine here is a snap, just pick a wall and mine away.

Make good use of all the open spaces to make various farms to keep you supplied and maybe make a vertical drop shaft for easy surface access...

If you are a carebear, you can always set it on peaceful until you are settled in the underworld... (not that I have EVER done this... )

I haven't found any exposed diamonds yet, but maybe you guys will be luckier. Also, I haven't really explored the rest of the overworld, so who knows what else is around...

Sorry for the long post and the many pictures, but I threw in some lame jokes and silly tips to hopefully keep you entertained!

Anyway, enjoy and + this if you like it and motivate me to post more :smile.gif:

Have fun and many and adventures for everyone...

Quote from Tyken132

Oops, found the problem. Seems I typed the seed in the name spot, whoops. Checking out the world now for any suitable build spots.

Haha! I've done this a couple of times, silly me...

Holy crap! Freaking EPIC! That cave is awesome for making a freaking CITY in it... for you!

Quote from Tyken132

I'm looking for a new seed for 1.9.4 to move my home to but sadly I haven't come across anything that great. I'm hoping for a really epic map with villages, strong holds, and epic mountains to build into but i'll just settle for the mountains if anyone knows of any.

http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/724969-wow-just-wow/

Check that seed the poster... um, posted?

If you love caves to set up base in, you're gonna love that one...

Quote from MetroFan180 »

Excellent job! But I must ask, what did you use to take a screenshot?

In Minecraft or in Silent Hill?

The current version of Minecraft allows you to take screenshots with F2. You can find the pictures in the screenshots folder created in the .minecraft folder under:
\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data\.minecraft\screenshots

For Silent Hill I am basically searching google images for various strings such as
silent hill midwich reception
and getting lucky lol

If anyone can suggest a good tool to take screenshots off something like epsxe then I might take my own so that they can match the minecraft one's angles perfectly.

Awesome! Thank you Ignnis for being the first person to reply and prove that this post is noticed by someone!

To answer your question, right now I have the server properties set to no animals or monsters. While I'm working on it I definitely don't want a creeper to come knocking on my door. Redstone dust for blood is a very good idea though. I don't know why that idea never once came to me. It will be especially useful for the alternate floor I think. Thanks for the tip!

SJunior thanks for the heads up on the editing. For little responses like this I will probably do standard replies since they apply directly to posts above them, but for picture updates I will certainly follow your advice.

Thanks guys! Keep an eye on it as I'm going to put a lot of work on it over the next few days I hope. No work tomorrow XD

Did a bunch of work today. Decided to put up a little update though the game crashed while I was taking screenshots and now it won't let me log back in. I'm sure lots of people are having troubles right now. Anywho, I'll show what I can for anyone who might see this. I have not gotten smart yet and set it up so I can play Silent Hill on the PC so I can take my own screenshots of the actual game for comparison, so I'm just using what shots I can find on the web for comparison.
Also you may notice there are some random paintings everywhere. Well for now, any place in the game there is a random note or picture on the wall I put a painting to symbolize it. If I am still headstrong enough in this project when I finish the building, I MAY attempt to make a silent hill themed texture set so I can dress it up nice, and in that case I'll replace at least some of the paintings to make more sense.

(Screenshots for this post have been moved to the first post. I'll get better at this I promise!)

I also have the infirmary done, which I will show screenshots of later. The next step is to either begin the courtyard, or the hallways. Don't worry, I won't post pictures of every single hallway since they all pretty much look the same.

So if there are any Silent Hill fans browsing this board that stumble on to this, please let me know what you think! I'd also be glad to hear any suggestions on what I could add, or things I could do differently. Sometimes it's hard deciding whether to match the look of the original game, or the spirit of what the object is. An example being, the actual game has a simple flat cyan bench to sit on in the lobby. I originally used some cyan wool blocks but it looked pretty goofy, especially since this bench is so low to the ground originally. So I just put some wooden steps side by side against the wall to look like a simple park bench.

I also used white wool for the ceiling just to make it look a little different. It gives it a stucco effect that the original game did not use, but I figured if I kept using iron blocks for everything it would start to look a bit odd.

That's all for now!

P.S. also since I'm new to this forum (and actually haven't done a lot of posting in forums in general), I'd appreciate any tips if I'm doing anything wrong in the world of forum etiquette like posting too many images at once or need to adjust the sizes or anything like that.

P.S.S. Also I'd GREATLY appreciate any info or sources that might help me get some of the accuracy down from the game. There are some things you just can't tell in the game due to lack of camera control. I know a very long time ago I saw a web page talking about a camera hack for a fan made PC port of the game, but I have not been able to find it again. As of right now I have no clue how to do the top of the lobby because you can not tell if it has a roof or if it goes straight up to the 2nd floor. (I want to say it does if I remember right). In the game you don't even get to see the Midwich Elementary sign out front so I'm very curious how that screenshot I found online did that angle. I know there's a decently accurate midwich map for left 4 dead I should probably check out, but any other info, websites, or leads will be immensely appreciated.
Ok gone for real now!