But have you ever thought about why they are putting in this still incomplete feature? It's because people would like to play on a singleplayer world with friends.
How about SMP for a change, or is it too old for your liking? Also, I would like to point out, "this still incomplete feature" is not being put in for the reason of someone want to "play a singleplayer world with friends"(making it SMP), it is because the minecraft development team want to let the community to test it out, and give feedbacks.
18+ is still lower then 21 and even 21 doesn't guarantee a mature level head just the ability to have a nice calming drink, unless you are an angry drunk in which case don't have a drink
You are right though about the rage threads but the thread title was still over reacting. You could have just said "Huge performance drop with new snapshot" and discussed it but instead you assumed the worst, posted a title that assumes EVERYbody will have performance drop and pretty much denied that it would ever be fixed before official release.... so Doomsayer
I really think people are miss interpreting this bit. I don't think the game will just switch to SMP when you invite other players because this would completely defeat the entire purpose of this combined functionality. The developers do not want to be programing two games, features in SMP and features in SSP. There will be one game which will be a SSP SMP hybrid where you play on one listen server (although this may be done with a single JAR). We will, hopefully, not be able to tell the difference when this is all said and done. Right now some people do have a performance drop while others have and increase and there are a number of new bugs introduced in the process of this merger. They mojang blog openly states that this snapshot was particularly "experimental" but most people get the snapshot from the forums and they failed to include the entire post from the blog.
Seems like you want to get so technical:
[21, infinity) is a subset of [18, infinity), thus making your statement "18+ is still lower then 21" partially wrong.
Face it: Running a server and connect to it using a client will always have a decreased performance than running a single player game, guaranteed.
Regardless of how many people support this idea, I still think this change is bizarre, and my support goes to the OP: If I want to play a single player game, I want to keep it single player. Running a server and connect to it defeat the definition of "single" player. Arguing that running a server and connect to it alone by yourself is "single player" is just *beep*.
One last thing: You really need to drop the "doomsayer" thing.
I just tried going into the nether with Optifog installed... optimine (inio) and modloader as well, but the problem doesn't happen with just them installed. Here's what happened:
Enter portal. Watch as minecraft goes haywire entering/exiting the nether over and over again, and after around 30 of these minecraft crashes. Restart minecraft only to find your inventory missing and back at either the original spawn point, or if you're far enough away from it a random location within 200 blocks. *sigh*
I was using the experimental version on an nvidia 6150 if that makes a difference. Also, rendering inside the nether works just fine. It's just when you step into the portal... nether side or earth side matters not.
This sure will be a must have mod....maybe merge the 2 mods together, as in become one mod to avoid conflict? That would be nice...if you and scaevolus dont mind that is..
just a little suggestion:
if it can remember the last state, it will be awesome!
ie. if the mod was turned off this time, next time you start minecraft again, it remains off, same for on. :biggrin.gif:
I installed the improved chatting and this is what cmd threw at me
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
C:\Documents and Settings\N/A> java -Xms512m -Xmx1024m -cp "%APPDATA%\.minecra
ft\bin\*" -Djava.library.path="%APPDATA%\.minecraft\bin\natives" net.minecraft.c
lient.Minecraft
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ModLoader Beta 1.3_01v5 Initializing...
C:\Documents and Settings\Haris\Application Data\.minecraft
Mod Loaded: mod_Xray 9
Mod Loaded: mod_HiddenDoors v1.1.1 (for b1.3_01)
Mod Loaded: mod_LightSensor Beta 1.3_01
Mod Loaded: mod_Arrows Beta 1.3_01v3
Mod Loaded: mod_Stackables Beta 1.3_01
Mod Loaded: mod_Floodgate Beta 1.3_01v2
Mod Loaded: mod_SpawnerGUI Beta 1.3_01v2
Mod Loaded: mod_RecipeBook Beta 1.3_01v2
Mod Loaded: mod_Shelf Beta 1.3_01
Mod Loaded: mod_SdkFlasher 1.3_01v4
Mod Loaded: mod_SdkFps 1.3_01v4
Mod Loaded: mod_SdkGrapplingHook 1.3_01v4
Mod Loaded: mod_SdkGuns 1.3_01v4
Mod Loaded: mod_SdkUtility 1.3_01v4
Done.
Loading: net.java.games.input.DirectAndRawInputEnvironmentPlugin
Starting up SoundSystem...
Initializing LWJGL OpenAL
(The LWJGL binding of OpenAL. For more information, see http://www.lwjgl.or
g)
OpenAL initialized.
Overriding /terrain.png with /sdk/blockLighterTop.png @ 137
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Overriding /terrain.png with /sdk/blockSentryRocketLauncherLaser.png @ 110
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203 recipes
More Block IDs r10 (by Shockah) - loaded.
LCONTROL
java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ModLoader.RunOSDHooks(Lnet/minecraft/client/Minecra
ft;)V
at qf.a(qf.java:139)
at mh.b(mh.java:360)
at net.minecraft.client.Minecraft.run(Minecraft.java:533)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Stopping!
SoundSystem shutting down...
Author: Paul Lamb, www.paulscode.com
C:\Documents and Settings\N/A>
So Basically What I Was Doing Was I Went On Single Player To Play A Little And Then My Minecraft Just Crashed
same "java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ModLoader.RunOSDHooks(Lnet/minecraft/client/Minecra
ft;)V at qf at mh" error, it has to do with the fact modloader v5 (grass fix) is used.
so I'm still trying to get biome terrain working how I want, and currently have no plugins. when I get this going, it will be greylist - free to play on for anyone, but you can buy protected land or something. not thought too much about it yet, I'll try to keep it cheap, it only has to cover the cost of keeping the server up.
for now, here is the IP:
194.100.249.247:55555
(five fives, get it?)
until it's running for real, I won't make any guarantees about uptime. also, the world might be reset before I go "live" so don't build anything serious yet.
my nicknames are theborad and blendmaster1024, I'll be using theborad more as it's shorter and therefore easier to type when I need to type it quickly.
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Thanks!
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How about SMP for a change, or is it too old for your liking? Also, I would like to point out, "this still incomplete feature" is not being put in for the reason of someone want to "play a singleplayer world with friends"(making it SMP), it is because the minecraft development team want to let the community to test it out, and give feedbacks.
Is this really necessary? You sound mad.
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Seems like you want to get so technical:
[21, infinity) is a subset of [18, infinity), thus making your statement "18+ is still lower then 21" partially wrong.
Face it: Running a server and connect to it using a client will always have a decreased performance than running a single player game, guaranteed.
Regardless of how many people support this idea, I still think this change is bizarre, and my support goes to the OP: If I want to play a single player game, I want to keep it single player. Running a server and connect to it defeat the definition of "single" player. Arguing that running a server and connect to it alone by yourself is "single player" is just *beep*.
One last thing: You really need to drop the "doomsayer" thing.
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Yes..I think it must be........
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I can conform this.
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thanks
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did you even bother reading the op?
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just a little suggestion:
if it can remember the last state, it will be awesome!
ie. if the mod was turned off this time, next time you start minecraft again, it remains off, same for on. :biggrin.gif:
thanks
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same "java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: ModLoader.RunOSDHooks(Lnet/minecraft/client/Minecra
ft;)V at qf at mh" error, it has to do with the fact modloader v5 (grass fix) is used.
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journey to find a....spawn..XD