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    posted a message on AMERICANS: Dream act singed in California?
    Quote from TG09

    they have every opportunity to get one but just don't plus you need to know something about this country to become one.


    Right! Like, "What are the colors of our flag," and "Who was the First President of the United States?"

    If you think about it, there is a very small number of illegal immigrants who actually graduate High School, and then get accepted into an institution of higher education. So really, it's no big deal. And if we can give them the initiative to get an higher education, that's excellent.
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    posted a message on AMERICANS: Dream act singed in California?
    Blame it on my being a liberal, but I actually agree with this. First of all, it's not just to anyone. The people that are eligible for the money have to:

    Have proof of having arrived in the United States before age 16.
    Have proof of residence in the United States for at least five consecutive years since their date of arrival.
    Have registered with the Selective Service if male.
    Be between the ages of 12 and 30 at the time of bill enactment.
    Have graduated from an American high school, obtained a GED, or have been admitted to an institution of higher education.
    Be of "good moral character"

    These would be people that have the ability to contribute to society, much more than many teenagers I know. They just might not have the financial background to be able to pay for an institution of higher education.
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    posted a message on Astronomy
    Betelgeuse is the tenth largest discovered stars. True. But other than that...

    What on Earth are you talking about?
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    posted a message on Do you belive in the "Big Bang"?
    This is a very common subject on these forums, I come here about once a month, and there always seems to be a thread on this... Anyway, I'll attempt to clear up some misconceptions.

    Quote from dietwawa

    This is basicly the question of life. How do you think you got on this world you are on today?
    It kinda makes you feel pointless if you think you were formed or something...doesn't it?
    So, please comment on what you think. are we a chance?


    The Big Bang has no connections to the creation of life, or life at all. Nor does Evolution. The current theory for the 'creation' of life is called Abiogenesis

    Quote from Shello

    Also, how is there no proof of the big bang theory? There's plenty of proof, you just don't see it right in front of you. Did you almost the entire 'universe' is moving away from one certain point? If I remember correctly, I think there's also a enormous black hole there, too. I'm not sure if I got a minor detail off on explaining this or that, but I have a better understanding then most.


    I hope you don't mind my using some shameless copying from a past post. But I'm far too lazy to write up an entirely new response.

    There isn't a center of the Universe. My favorite analogy is Raisin bread. When you roll the dough, it is compact with all the raisins close together. When you put it in the oven, and it rises, they all move apart. But there isn't a single point of expansion. You can pick any of the raisins and the bread itself seems to be expanding from that one point. Pick another one, same thing. Any point you choose is the center. This is the same with the Universe. If you pick any point, everything seems to be moving away from it.

    We know that it's moving by its 'Redshift.' When something is moving toward you, it appears blue because the wavelength is being shortened. When something is moving away from you, it appears red because the wavelength is being lengthened. But this is a different subject. By telling how long or short the wavelength is we can figure out how fast it is moving away or towards from us. This can be done by taking a spectra of the galaxy in question.

    It's really, really important that people understand that this is not the end-all and be-all answer to the creation of the Universe, but merely our current understanding. The Big Bang is not an entire answer. We may never have the complete answer. But there is no reason trying not to answer the 'Ultimate Question.'

    One last thing, at some point, someone is going to bring up the fact that it was an "explosion." I'll address that when they do. But for the time being I'll just say don't even bother, and read up on it. Because that is probably the most ignorant argument against the Big Bang.
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    posted a message on The Big Bang Theory
    Quote from MaGicBush

    Yet the entire point of the Big Bang is there is a center of the Universe..


    Nope. Not really. It's called metric expansion of space.

    It's a pretty established feature in Big Bang cosmology.
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    posted a message on The Big Bang Theory
    Quote from xAppareoOfOdium

    Hey guys, I've been reading up on philosophies,as i've been having inner conflicts whether or not to be atheist or theist, and i have a question about the theory of the Big Bang. It states that it is infinitely expanding, and, at this very moment, it is still stretching outwards, carrying galaxies, solar systems, and cosmos with it. IF this is true, and we had the required technology, would measuring the distance from our solar system to the center of the universe, recording, than doing it 100 years later, prove anything?
    let's say our Sun, is exactly eighty kagillion light years from the center of the universe.
    the next century, it is eighty kagillion, and 3 tenths, from the center of the unvierse.
    Would this help in proving the universe is constantly expanding, and stretching? sorry if this seems a little...tongue in cheek. I'm in the 8th grade.


    The very first thing I noticed, is you talking about the 'center of the universe.'

    There isn't a center of the Universe. My favorite analogy is Raisin bread. When you roll the dough, it is compact with all the raisins close together. When you put it in the oven, and it rises, they all move apart. But there isn't a single point of expansion. You can pick any of the raisins and the bread itself seems to be expanding from that one point. Pick another one, same thing. Any point you choose is the center. This is the same with the Universe. If you pick any point, everything seems to be moving away from it.

    We know that it's moving by its 'Redshift.' When something is moving toward you, it appears blue because the wavelength is being shortened. When something is moving away from you, it appears red because the wavelength is being lengthened. But this is a different subject. By telling how long or short the wavelength is we can figure out how fast it is moving away or towards from us. This can be done by taking a spectra of the galaxy in question.

    It don't think you meant this tongue in cheek. If it was tongue in cheek than I wouldn't take it at face value. It's a valid question, and not humorously intended.
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    posted a message on STOP THE RELIGIOUS THREADS
    You most likely haven't read all 150-some pages of the Religion thread. It's actually quite a mature discussion. I haven't read any of the recent ones, but the older ones were very civilized.
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    posted a message on Comfort vs. Truth
    For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. -Carl Sagan

    The quote in my signature sums my view on it pretty well.

    I also see parallels to Liar! in I, Robot. Would you rather always hear what comforts you, or the truth?
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    posted a message on Theoretical Physics
    Quote from nukes2all

    sooo what were to happen if a star ?supernova'd? BIG BANG THEORY!!! stars theoretically created the universe [not to go agaimst religion but im more of the scientistic group]


    Stars had nothing to do with the beginning of the Universe in the Big Bang theory.
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    posted a message on Do you play sports?
    I dislike Sports in general. Especially American Football. I like watching Football though. And Ice Hockey. Wouldn't go out of my way though.

    The only sport I participate in the Swimming.
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    posted a message on Gay marriage
    Quote from Alcatraz

    Well if you call tired of not having a job because of bad economy then I guess I am insane. And he shouldn't do anything else at all he's had three years to waste time why didn't he do this before?


    Fixing the Economy isn't as easy as snapping your fingers and having it done. It'll also take a very, very long time. Spending is much easier than saving.

    It would help if Republicans would let him raise the taxes on the rich.
    It would help if the Republicans would let us get rid of Big Oil subsidization.
    It would help if the Bush administration hadn't added seven trillion to the debt.
    It would help if Republicans would let us put a cap on Defense spending.

    The list goes on and on. It's not all Republicans, there are quite a few Democrats that are in the way as well. But you posted that just to get people responding to you. Because it had absolutely nothing to do with the original post.

    Anyway. I support Gays as much as I can. I don't like them shoving their Gayness onto me, but then again, I don't like Straights that push their Straightness on me. Gays are Human beings as well, and America is the land of the free, but 15% of our population doesn't have the right to marry. That's just messed up. I know that many countries in Europe allow Gay Marriage, but if there are other ones I support them as well. If the world was perfect, it wouldn't even be an issue.

    Of course, I don't like the word 'Marriage' to begin with.
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    posted a message on Climate Change Sceptics
    Quote from sqrt(-1) o_O

    But receding ice caps on Mars! Anyways, there are LOTS of volcanoes... They have emitted way more CO2 than humans.(not say, per year, but over many years(millions?,more?)
    Anyways, I like nuclear power plants a lot. Better yet, if we could get fusion technology, we would have lots of energy. Or, (far future) almost perfect matter to energy conversion!!!!!!!


    The receding ice caps on Mars are most likely Solar. That doesn't mean the ones on Earth are. Mars is a much, much different planet.

    Before the Industrial Revolution, that would've been true. But now? Definitely not.

    We have Fusion Technolagy. I'm actually currently doing AutoCAD drawings for a Fusor that's being built be a friend. However, it's very inefficient at producing energy because you have to put more in than you get out. What you're thinking about is Cold Fusion.
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    posted a message on Your Favorite TED Videos
    I love TED. I have so many favorites, but if I had to choose.

    http://www.ted.com/talks/brian_cox_why_we_need_the_explorers.html

    http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/eng/robert_ballard_on_exploring_the_oceans.html I like this one just because of Ballard. He was my childhood hero
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    posted a message on Climate Change Sceptics
    Quote from sqrt(-1) o_O

    The earth is always changing. Certainly don't dump toxic waste or pollute chemicals into rivers, but I'm rather sure volcanoes give much more CO2 than humans have. Back in dinosaur times, I've heard it was much warmer. Then an ice-age comes and it gets cooler. Then warmer again... Seems like a natural cycle. There's also the medieval warm period, but I don't know much about that. Also, mars ice-caps melting. Google it, there's proof. The sun isn't something that stays the same all the time;it changes.


    Guess what.

    Global Warming has absolutely nothing to do with the Sun. Also, Volcanoes do not give out as much CO2 as human activity. Not to long ago, that wouldn't have been true.
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    posted a message on I'm going to go star gazing tonight
    Quote from Ultamia

    *Nerd mode activated*

    Actually, the centre 'star' of Orion's belt is in fact, a Nebula. The great Orion Nebula. I'd go in to a lot more details but.. I'm lazy.

    *Nerd mode deactivated*


    That's actually incorrect. The centre star in Orion's belt is Alnilam (Epsilon Orionis), a blue Supergiant that is surrounded by a Molecular Cloud. The Orion Nebula is located in Orion's Sword, which is a lesser known part of the Constellation.

    It really depends on where you're going (How clear it is) and when you're going (What time of night). Your name makes me think of Cassiopeia, which is always a fun one. Just look for a W, that should be, if my memory serves, roughly in the Northeast.

    To all you people saying find Orion, unless they're in the Southern Hemisphere, they can't It's a winter constellation.

    EDIT: Ninja'd. I should type faster.
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