I will say, having used some of Alienware's notebooks and those of competitors, that they are "as bad as everything else." Of course, we have different definitions of "bad," and I compare notebooks on far more points than most people do. What irks me might be irrelevant to you.
The Internet is almost all heuristic.
If you want it, try it. If you hate it, try something else. Simple.
If not, plan ahead for a laptop. Here are some laptop brands highly unrecommended by the Hardware Discussion Board of Trustees (karlzhao314, fm87, danielhep, babbj, doctapper, me, etc.):
Apple
HP/Compaq
Dell/Alienware
Sony (really, Sony?)
Razer (only one laptop?)
Explain. My buddy has a Y410p no problems at all. It may not have a "high end" feel, but it's not trying to be high end. It's a solid budget gaming laptop.
It's not the best, but for the price you cannot beat it. Incredibly high value for the dollar.
Price-for-performance, perhaps. I don't think they are bad notebooks. They are unpolished. A few cooling and wi-fi issues, poor trackpads (worse than those of some other "gaming notebooks"), and they don't feel well-built.
My complaints might not apply to all Ideapads, but judging from their prices and intended buyers, I would not be surprised if the problems were common.
The Strawman fallacy (which rules the Internet)
Politicians (i.e. government politicians)
Pundits
Political parties
Sensationalist interpretation of scientific research
hmmm, i think your Reave, in which case, GTFO, alienware, is, not, a good, COMPANY, there EXTREMELEY overpriced, and EXPLODE
I did not type the word "Alienware" in any of my posts before this one. (Besides the previous one, I guess, which I edited to reply to you.)
All of the "arguments" I have seen on this forum are "blind bandwagoning," and most of them are straw men or turn opposing arguments into straw men. Straw houses, even.
Worth "it?" What is "it?" Are you asking if the laptop is worth itself? Ontologists have given us the axiom "A=A": a thing shares all objective parameters with itself. How can something be "worth" more or less than itself? What is "worth?" Price is a vulgar measure, and you have neither mentioned a price nor replied to the contributions of others. OP is troll-ish.
Sager already makes machines that fit his criteria.
HP's high-grade laptops are sturdier and have better fit-and-finish than you might expect. The problem is cooling (and whitelisting, I guess).
If Lenovo were to design "premium, high-performance, high-upgradeability" notebooks with similar quality and support to its T/W Thinkpads or better, it would be a winner. As far as laptops go, anyway.
I did not call Sager and ASUS "garbage." They are not good for me. They might be good for others.
The clock ticks. A man's judgment. The Reaper becomes a Transient.
You have said so. Would it matter if I were to say "no?"
The King rules infinity from a nutshell, seven hundred twenty-nine times the man the tyrant is, horns and swords thundering at his gates, winnowing and weathering his defenses, but he persists until the end of things.
The ASUS and Sager laptops I have used are flimsy. The ASUS ROG G55, G75, and G750 flex plenty in the lid and have wobbly screens. The G750's bottom flap is plastic attached with one screw and weak clips. Easy to snap. The hinges, LCD assemblies, speakers, and poor trackpads are the clearest problems with Sagers, I think. Both brands use ABS and PC polymer frames, which is not great for stiffness. They might be better-built than $300 Acers, but I don't think they are good.
All of the mainstream "gaming laptop" sellers remove upgrade options every year. With more pleasant things like Microsoft's UEFI Secure Flash approaching, the trend might not reverse.
MSI should use a new chassis, and "Dellienware" needs to add customization options and fix pecadilloes in its designs. They are as mediocre as the other two brands.
If HP were to design a laptop with good performance and passable cooling, I would pay attention.
If the OP is considering an ASUS or Sager or any "gaming laptop," she should try it instead of deferring her choice to my judgment. After all (a leaf falls in the forest),
what is a
thing
to a man
whose dread countenance
defies symbol for (the earth burns)
indexicality?
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I did not pay restocking fees when I returned my last few notebooks (including an Alienware), and none of them had issues.
It's down to clueless reps, I think.
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The Internet is almost all heuristic.
If you want it, try it. If you hate it, try something else. Simple.
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Why do you judge brands rather than models?
(Also, Acer is stereotyped as a terrible brand, so I don't know why you added it there...)
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Price-for-performance, perhaps. I don't think they are bad notebooks. They are unpolished. A few cooling and wi-fi issues, poor trackpads (worse than those of some other "gaming notebooks"), and they don't feel well-built.
My complaints might not apply to all Ideapads, but judging from their prices and intended buyers, I would not be surprised if the problems were common.
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Because I disagree with you, I have "no clue about" them? What experience do you have with them, and why is it worth more than those of others?
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Politicians (i.e. government politicians)
Pundits
Political parties
Sensationalist interpretation of scientific research
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I did not type the word "Alienware" in any of my posts before this one. (Besides the previous one, I guess, which I edited to reply to you.)
All of the "arguments" I have seen on this forum are "blind bandwagoning," and most of them are straw men or turn opposing arguments into straw men. Straw houses, even.
For example, "i think your Reave."
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The other posters presumed to type more than they know. I am doing something similar without hiding it.
Maybe I should add lines about the intentions of my posts after I type them... After all, as Augustine writes,
down with all that does not proclaim the goodness of the Good in terms of its good.
To logoster: I have not typed the word "Alienware" in any post before this one. You mentioned it, and "GTFO" is impolite.
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Who told you that I wanted the post to mean something?
Despite the self-indulgent inserts, it has as much value as any of the other posts in this thread.
And thesauruses do not often have philosophical axioms.
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HP's high-grade laptops are sturdier and have better fit-and-finish than you might expect. The problem is cooling (and whitelisting, I guess).
If Lenovo were to design "premium, high-performance, high-upgradeability" notebooks with similar quality and support to its T/W Thinkpads or better, it would be a winner. As far as laptops go, anyway.
I did not call Sager and ASUS "garbage." They are not good for me. They might be good for others.
The clock ticks. A man's judgment. The Reaper becomes a Transient.
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You have said so. Would it matter if I were to say "no?"
The King rules infinity from a nutshell, seven hundred twenty-nine times the man the tyrant is, horns and swords thundering at his gates, winnowing and weathering his defenses, but he persists until the end of things.
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All of the mainstream "gaming laptop" sellers remove upgrade options every year. With more pleasant things like Microsoft's UEFI Secure Flash approaching, the trend might not reverse.
MSI should use a new chassis, and "Dellienware" needs to add customization options and fix pecadilloes in its designs. They are as mediocre as the other two brands.
If HP were to design a laptop with good performance and passable cooling, I would pay attention.
If the OP is considering an ASUS or Sager or any "gaming laptop," she should try it instead of deferring her choice to my judgment. After all (a leaf falls in the forest),
what is a
thing
to a man
whose dread countenance
defies symbol for (the earth burns)
indexicality?