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    posted a message on Default HD | The Classic Is Back (1.20.5 with backwards compatibility) 800K DOWNLOADS
    Quote from thebaum64»

    I have used it with Seus, it seemed to work fine. But I could always make an add-on pack if there are bugs

    He's not talking about compatibility or bugs with the Shaders mod (there isn't any and it looks awesome anyways), he's talking about adding support for normal and specular maps so the lightning will look more realistic with the textures and some blocks will actually reflect light when it's raining, for example.




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    posted a message on Is 1.8 Lagging for you? POLL - Let's settle this issue!
    Quote from echonite»
    Yeah, people will complain just about anywhere. Finding posts about any game being terrible isnt exactly hard. Go find a single thread about how well a game is performing, now that is hard.



    My intent in sharing my experience is to counter those that try and brush 1.8 off as being all around terrible and unoptimized or whatever, when my experience says the exact opposite. The game performs better then it ever has. And my 5 computers beats your 4 friends. All vastly different hardware as well.



    I have a very difficult time believing that 1.8 is as bad as people make it out to be around here. Some people have major issues, I know, but I doubt its a vast majority. The poll on this thread alone is vague and doesn't prove anything. 1.8 may have cause your FPS to drop some, but that doesn't mean its not performing well.

    Alright, lets say it's not the majority. But then, why would you be mad at people that complain? Why is it wrong? Sure that posts like "UH THE GAME IS BROKEN CUZ MOJANG CHANGED ROSES TO POPPIES" or "UH, 3D SNOUTS FOR PIGS DO NOT FIT MINECRAFT'S ART STYLE, THE GAME IS RUINED" are stupid af, but because people complain too much, are you gonna act like if it were people's fault the fact that they get a bad performance in 1.8? Or is it just because you don't have said issue? What's the problem with it?
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    posted a message on Is 1.8 Lagging for you? POLL - Let's settle this issue!
    Quote from echonite»

    Source?

    Forum posts are not an accurate representation of a userbase. How many people go to forums to post about how good something is? Few.

    Some people have issues, yes, but the true number is impossible to tell. I for one have had impeccable performance on 5 different computers. My main computer, I get a solid ~150FPS (When uncapped, and upwards of 1800FPS) and I've not been able to do anything to get it under 100.

    My main complaint is about people who still get well over 60FPS and they are complaining about 1.8 being a problem for them.

    Seriously, if you found this thread you can find pretty easly the posts I'm talking about. During the development of Optifine for 1.8, sp614x made several posts explaining in detail the changes included in said version, such as water temples being very laggy due to a screw up in water lighting, chunks not loading due to lazy code in the rendering and more. Those are the bests posts I could show you but that thread fills about 2 or 3 pages daily so I can't find them. But there more threads like this one, for example, although I would preffer having sp614x's posts.

    If you say that forum posts are not an accurate representation of a userbase then it achieves nothing in this discussion to post only your experience with 1.8.

    It's not just this thread that tells that the majority of players have lag. I've seen it in Facebook, YouTube, plenty of other threads and in IRL; I have three friends of mine that play Minecraft with me and we're stuck in 1.7 because all of us have lag issues in 1.8, so that's a 4/4 people lagging, with very different PCs. If by having all that in mind you're still not convinced that this is a problem that affects a huge amount of Minecraft users, then let me know because I certainly won't continue with this...

    Lastly, as some have said, it's not just FPS, it's the general smoothness, the IA getting worse, chunk loading problems, block lag, etc. But even if it were just the FPS, that does not mean that people can't complain just because they can still play at 60 FPS; What it was for the hardware to play the game at 200 FPS before, might be the same load of work to play at 60 FPS in 1.8, meaning that some PCs can run hotter. Minecraft should not work like that in a update that was meant in part to increase the performance.
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    posted a message on Is 1.8 Lagging for you? POLL - Let's settle this issue!
    Quote from echonite»

    That is oxymoronic. Fallacies are inherently false.

    Corrolation =/= Causation

    Also consider that programs become more demanding over time, so a decrease in performance between versions is understandable. 1.8 may very well be the cause, but you can't use false logic to support it.

    That's just overcomplicating something too simple. 1.8 caused tons of unnatural lag for most Minecraft players and it's something that 99% of people, even including people whose performance is the same, would agree on. Just check all the threads and posts out there about this, not only the most simple ones that just say "i got lag when i updated to 1.8" but also the ones that explain further the possible causes of lag in 1.8 such as previous OptiFine's developer posts where he explains in detail what exactly changed in 1.8 that is what is causing all these issues.

    "Also consider that programs become more demanding over time"

    I sure considered it, but going from 170-270 FPS to 32-50 FPS is just ridiculous, and there are worse cases.
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    posted a message on Is 1.8 Lagging for you? POLL - Let's settle this issue!
    Quote from echonite»

    You couldn't tell the difference. Most all monitors are capped at 60FPS, so anything above 60 is literally unnoticeable and effectively wasted.

    That's true, but I might know what he's reffering to. Despite the game saying it's at 60 FPS, it still has "mini-lag spikes" that make it feel like 30-40 FPS. It really is less smooth.
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    posted a message on Default HD | The Classic Is Back (1.20.5 with backwards compatibility) 800K DOWNLOADS
    Quote from thebaum64»

    I want to hit all the really popular mods first, then the small ones.

    I understand that, it's good reason then :)
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    posted a message on Default HD | The Classic Is Back (1.20.5 with backwards compatibility) 800K DOWNLOADS
    IMO, it shouldn't be a matter of whether you like or not the mod, but if the users who use your pack are requesting for it a lot.

    Of course you can do whatever you want, but not pleasing the supporters because the reason is "I don't like the mod " is a bit... idk.
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    posted a message on How to fix 1.8 or 1.7.10 lag!
    I wouldn't call that a "fix".
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    posted a message on Null? Herobrine? Entity303? Fake or Real?
    Quote from Pwn3dByMe»
    No, Notch did say he is real on twitter

    Check it out: https://twitter.com/notch/status/485842137942999040

    I think you're too young to detect sarcasm...
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    posted a message on I can't find a good resource pack
    Quote from thebaum64»
    You can try my pack :) Default HD! It is like normal Minecraft in default, clean, sharp HD! It has a large amount of shading (similar to shaders) without the FPS drop :)

    Woah, man. I don't think that's what OP is looking for but I really, really like that texture pack!
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