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I meant with mobGrefing off not useless in general. I edited my comment to better say roles and mobGriefing changes things than it being only hostile mobs that the command should effect. Because they can't farm otherwise. My bad it didn't come across that way.

Didn't mind the 1.14 village update with trading system changes having tiers and discounts I'm all for that. Prices and resources can be awkward at times still but it is better. I don't do raids but it's there as an option for sure.

Thinking again they have uses for trades and can do tasks like farmer which is true I just forget so I will backtrack on that so yes I agree. Whoops. I use mob griefing off too so I don't have them doing things, that's what happens when you want creepers to stop exploding blocks but restrict villagers too because it's assigned to the same command so in my worlds they can't. With the command on yes they can, off they can't.

But they aren't in the sense of they are assigned that job already you can't assign them whatever you want, one time a miner, a sword wielding guard, a woodcutter, a potion brewer, a fisherman.

They already are a farmer, librarian and such but not for certain other roles that modded machines or villagers serve.

They don't have to be though but give a sword be a guard, give a pick a miner and just that role already and the Rascal/Tuff Golem filling in two more or the Tuff Golem being the reassignable role the Rascal just a miner it's why I was fine with both of them.

Villagers also don't fit other roles like a miner, or something to place stuff in your chests. With a Tuff Golem it would be a Turtle/fake player block or pipes. The Rascal maybe a miner that gives good or bad rewards expanding other roles in the game meaning you wouldn't need a mod to get a quarry block or modded villager to do it for you. That's more what I was aiming for.

If I am unaware of it being possible to do that already have aminer villager and fisherman villager without mods then that is on me and I will own up to that for sure I don't use the villagers often besides trading so that's my lack of knowledge there.

I also don't use them because I have mob griefing command off which prevents them from interacting making them seem useless to me because it's all tied to the same command even though I turn it off for the sake of Enderman picking up blocks, creeper and ghast explosions as the main reason I am aware of villagers doing tasks I just forget. I ignore raids as I don't hate the feature I just suck at defending tbem and hero of the village isn't something I need but don't hate the feature.

So I forget you can so by that logic you are correct they are useful but I did mean they aren't reassignable for roles or we don't have other roles being filled with a miner villager or assisting inventory one. I'd need a mod that adds a walking luggage or villager that does interact with blocks or pipes like I said. Which is what I thought the Tuff Golden or Rascal could be of other roles not reassigned ones just a miner mob, or a lifting and placing mob or give it a sword/pick.

Likely many people the community seems to like textures, reskins and building. Its why I assume we get many of those types of updates.

Edited to be less rude.

The mob vote is disappointing was the most useless to me honestly.

Decor blocks that are fine. Bamboo use sure. Signs that hang sure. Camels sure. It took them this long to allow bookshelves to be inventories wow, this outbeats glass being coloured but still like sigh. Finally. A raft, we have boats I honestly don't care it's functionally the same it just visually looks different who cares I get more out of things I use not go 'wow this new thing that ... works the .. same .. as .. a boat, wow ok well that's a waste'.

Still doesn't change the fact we didn't get a mining mob rewards being abuseable or not and junk items or valuable rewards as personality to the mob. Or a helper mob I've wanted for years to be reassignable roles because villagers have their set roles, especially with mob griefing they can't interact with the world with that command off sadly. So creeper explosions gone so is villagers doing work so that goes out the window. I'd like Mojang to change that so I don't have to always use a mod to do tasks but also not have to change a command that applies to all mobs even those not hostile besides pipes and fake player blocks and we get a seeds/whatever else mob I can't wait to not care about never using.

I wonder how redstone players feel without as many gates to use or can they make them all by now? Or the lack of new commands to do things or do all the major ones exist people wanted? Instead we get more boring blocks.

I'm not interested in an end update again like people want because they saw an end ore/armour set in a mod or want villages because apparently they can't put blocks to count it as inhabited themselves they have to have mobs there in a dimension for some reason, but still something more interesting than these.

Tuff Golem seems the most useful. How much have people wanted in vanilla something besides villagers that can do something for you. How many Computer Craft turtles that mine, build, send stuff to your chests besides Ender Chests/pipes. I'd used Ancient Warfare all the time for it's equivalent villagers because they were actually useful than vanilla villagers.

If you can tell it what to do and not be a useless being that does barely anything besides being a statue as decor then sure, I can give it commands I'll be happy if not much at all then I'll be disappointed like I am every single mob they introduce.

(as in actual commands to program or options of 'pick up, place here, build this blueprint to tie into those in the creative menu whatever they were never used them, fight to protect the villager or any mobs never the house so I can sleep, use a leash or food to make animals get away from crops to a pen, a bunch of tasks I could have them do instead of being useless.

But Mojang won't do that because I can easily come up with better ideas than them like the rest of the community vanilla or modded and their basic ideas not connecting with old elements really that well like Glowstone over Glowsquid and worst use case for a mob as much as Polar Bears, like seriously. Why can't I keep a Glowsquid as a traveling lightbulb mob, or use their sacs for a lamp/torch, maybe as a redstone like dust on the ground, or maybe a light level type scale about thing to torch or redstone torch lighting or something useful not an item frame, I came up with ideas on the spot and are all better than Mojang pathetic ideas, Mojang suck at ideas. It's a light and they do light on a decor item not actual light useful things, tell me that's the dumbest thing in the game. Decor is what you put on it, not a useful mechanic or feature).

The Sniffer to me doesn't have much purpose. An egg and seeds, pass can just have dispensers that do bonemeal on crops, and also fish offer bonemeal so just have a fish farm with dispensers using swords some how or something or other means and otherwise villagers already do seeds anyways let alone a seed finder or whatever the egg does. Sounds kind of useless or needs more.

Then again did they give these purposes now instead of nothing but designs so we can decide better as they used to be pointless and had bad uses. Glowsquids are useless for item drops than glowing item frames, wow it's not like they couldn't do that with glowstone already not a new mob and item, sigh. If we could use them in a bottle or as a mine helmet or honestly 100s of other things sure but seriously Mojang suck at items for gameplay mechanic use.

In terms of the Rascal something in the mines is great but it's use case is pretty terrible honestly for probably terrible rewards or being too easy to get diamonds or something and the way to trigger it sounds so easy to cheese it isn't funny (also when seen 3 times can't that be abused in a way how often can you just run around or stand there for maybe 5 minutes go back to it, sounds like pretty easy to cheat design unless they put something else into it).

I am all for mobs in mines but if that's all they do pass even if I'd put it second and Sniffer last. They aren't a mining buddy they aren't useful to me compared to the Tuff Golem if it could do mining and building/placing things or automating my chests or furnaces or so for me. Whether you offer them something to recruit them even, say food or a resource for a set number of blocks or resources or are greedy or something then this bare bones feature where I couldn't care less what the reward is they could be a villager with bad trades level useless of what they consider 'reward' value for all I know than something useful.

While more clear for cheating/griefing and so on then chat related sure. I don't think it will really solve the problems that much. Modders make plugins/mods that third parties use or third parties use their own they have already got a handle on this. Mojang breaks their own code and modders fix it after all. No clue if Realms or otherwise is better than how they handle their game codebase but still.

Humans can deal with reports better than bots but the volume/how they handle it can still be a problem that's why companies use bots in the first place is things too much for humans to do.

Old versions make it redundant so like it matters. 1.8.9 PVP servers for example. They aren't patching new 1.8.9 versions with it if people haven't downloaded it or they detect it on someone's computer and does a launcher update (which would be questionable).

For 1.19+ sure. But it's too many versions too late and otherwise while it's fine to show 'they care to help out the communities' there the account situation earlier just made it clear that besides security it makes it easier to ban players which isn't surprising besides the Java/Bedrock unifying.

Some parts of this makes total sense to care, others seem a bit eh I don't know about this type of moves.

No doubt yes there is a big different between them but if it were 'automated'. I know it's a lot of effort and they will like go with a button to take players to a link on a feedback website or a menu with tick boxes and a dropdown (like the MCForums feedback one) and with a response for players to explain. 'IF' that works as obviously some players can go a bit far with things so who knows how effective it will actually be. Can only hope.

I do see potential/a need for something like this reporting though for players that do need it unlike others panicking over it.

I think the Feedback button is just a link to the Issue Tracker though? So it may be that simple to a website so my guess is that more than tick boxes and buttons/a proper menu inclusion.

I always consider automation an option because of the extent it can be customised by server owners/mods/ops besides whatever Realms/Official Servers offer that other games have and how far they will go. Even if yes people use plugins/mods for admin level extension to what commands are offered.

I know Minecraft already works like a server since Java 1.3 even in singeplayer (though the pausing of the game is still pretty good unlike Bedrock) came out and Bedrock already has it where you can't really 'pause the game' you still have an active running game going on so that's unfortunate.

Singleplayer I only thought of besides the environment, it's just if I were testing a profanity filter mod or demoing something that could fall under these is why I was thinking singleplayer.

I think this can go either way. While a good feature for sure and I don't know how effective OPs/Moderators are or the commands for banning, or dealing with players in certain ways is this level of things really needed? I never had this bother me but the major third party servers know what they are doing usually don't they? They have moderation teams/OPs already very effective at what they are doing (most of the time, who knows what goes on with players that may or may not be true and what is a bug or something compared to trolling, cheating with mods on servers saying it's not allowed and so on).

I know Microsoft has cracked down on this on their consoles and other games (regardless of what people think of the 360 era of online multiplayer compared to now) so not surprised this was going to happen eventually that it was just in the back of my mind really not something I was actively thinking about.

I know this post is straight from their sources/website so it's as accurate as can be no opinions or nothing but yeah some of these make sense some I can see it hard to say 'we have a loophole of words/context' to work with here (by loophole where just for adults chatting, casual saying to use the game's mechanics of /kill or respawning along with just if you can customise words that are allowed to be written on the server whether profanity filters or just something contextually, besides if they only allow chat in the discord server if it's that type of tight nit community compared to bigger third party servers or other situations), that and I trust the forum after being on here for years.

Otherwise what about if people play on older versions when it comes to Java, pointless by this point if you look at that simple factor alone. For Realms and modern versions sure I get it but if it's PVP on 1.8.9 it isn't happening. On Bedrock they have no choice to go back to old versions with this and it makes sense more for them anyway even if still sad but Java Edition players can get past this as they aren't even going to patch old versions for this to apply it's too much work. So it kind of falls on it's face there. XD

I think with the reports button for bugs (even though I would go to the bug track site anyway) but still. But for players it could be nonsense and a player just constantly trolling. I mean I have seen some players sneak onto a Bedrock server from one of my admin friends and yeah they solved it so I can sometimes see reason but most people with small servers or larger scale ones have plugins or mods to solve this they don't need this. Bedrock may but Java doesn't because the people that run servers on Java are more than smart enough to know what they are doing with this stuff and manage it/have teams of people monitoring too, they are self-sufficient in managing servers and multiplayer sessions.

I do think that like some of the comments have said sometimes you do need to do a respawn, but do you have to word it as 'just respawn and you will get your stuff back if you slept at your bed' and avoid the 'kill yourself' as it will be taken out of context more often than not.

Will this also only apply to multiplayer? Say I need to use text and I'm in singleplayer to demonstrate something and say 'you need to kill yourself to respawn' on a sign, or in chat or something does it count then (I assume more so multiplayer but still you never know how far these things can do and it would be like setting up a hardcore world to lock you out on a regular world).

To me it seems like PIkmin or maybe Dynasty Warriors (but with building to it) or maybe Dragon Quest Builders maybe.

That or a more involving game that instead of being from the sky/god view you instead are on the ground building pre-built/prefab walls, roof and so on (instead of building with blocks like in actual Minecraft) and taking your army with you to places.

Kind of like instead of building your theme park from an isometric view you get to be the park builder and walk around and place things instead of only getting to switch to a camera view on the rides which I know Theme Park tycoon games haven't done yet but that's the way I can think of describing this based on what I assume the gameplay (if actual gameplay) is supposed to be similar to.

I can only speculate for now I haven't seen what dev interviews or otherwise say.

I think the idea works, it's closer to Minecraft than Dungeons was but still an excuse for the brand.

Was surprised 4J is working on it/has a hand in it alongside another developer that I assume is more used to RTS games. I haven't checked.

It has potential for sure but at the same time you can just make this a minigame or map or anything in Minecraft anyway. You don't see PlayStation making odd things like this off of Dreams or Nintendo off Mario Maker or Game Builder Garage? Or Microsoft off Project Spark (if anyone remembers what that is XD).

If you want to have another version of the game then sure but otherwise Windows 10 Bedrock and Mobile are different. Both can use behaviourpacks but otherwise they are separate versions of the game.

All Bedrock versions have to be bought separately as annoying as that is. Java and Bedrock there were deals like if you had Java before a certain point (say a 2012 purchase of Java edition) you could get Bedrock on Windows 10 store for free or similarly there was a situation with it going to Gamepass I think too but that's it as far as I know you don't get deals for mobile, console or Windows 10 Bedrock they all have to be bought separately. Like the article says above.

Understandable I thought the same but with the Technic launcher as it doesn't require a Mojang account I think. It may look for your skin but that's about it. It's the only legal (and also modpack launcher but with Vanilla still, but custom instance creation kind of gets complicated) that you can access I think without need for a Mojang account but at least still purchase of the game of course. It's the way I was thinking of going.

Not thought about cracked launchers as 'how legal it is (I have used TLauncher before to see what it was like when people ask questions but that's about it) but yeah I and many others weren't happy about this either. I have a lot of sympathy for Mac/Linux users that want nothing to do with it either.

They would have to contact Microsoft or Mojang via social media/email or a phone number that's listed on their website.

No idea how the PC Bundle works now compared to the prior cut off for those that bought it years ago though so I'm just assuming things. Articles or Mojang's website will have information on this stuff and more accurately than I can provide.

I would assume you yes need to so you can access Bedrock that way on a Mac if not wanting a Windows PC around. Though I'd say more a virtualisation would be advised if possible but either way a Microsoft account is needed to access any Bedrock version of the game (even consoles that aren't an Xbox need it). I don't know much about OS emulation on Mac but I assume that may work if you know how (I know it's a thing but I forget/don't use a Mac so don't know how it works).

The Bedrock version on Windows 10 is in the Microsoft/Windows Store and will appear with the 'Get' or 'Free' or so instead of it detects you can get it.

As Windows 10 Bedrock is only available on Win10 not other Windows versions (which still use Java Edition). The other Bedrock versions (console, mobile platforms) don't apply as free. Only when you get Java on PC platforms does it count.

Java will always be the original experience but a challenge sometimes for new players without a wiki/videos/memorisation/prior knowledge but the intended audience for mods, server plugins/other community content (datapacks, resource packs, worlds, skins, etc.), custom servers, selecting older versions if not into the content offered in newer versions among easier and free community content unlike the marketplace doing it's thing and being limited/not always being the highest quality/moderated as well sometimes. While no controller support out of the box mods for controller support have kept up well and even though I do think some feel/quality of life in this version is better like the map system with banners (not counting minimap mods in this), or swimming/creative drift being a subjective you hate it or don't for example. The mention of any OS was a good thing as Mac/Linux users (RIP Microsoft account migration for them) especially besides just not Windows 10+ users on the Windows side. Curseforge, Modrinth and Planet Minecraft are the usual places for safe community content (Curseforge for most things, Modrinth for Fabric mods not Resource Packs and other content, PM can be alright but also hit and miss like these forums with ad site redirects still but it's died down over time).

Bedrock or Legacy Console even is great for performance, multiplayer with a friend/third party servers, simplicity to get into the game for the first time, controller support whether on Windows 10 or PS4/Xbox One and Switch onwards consoles or even knowing how to play without resorting to a wiki as the 'How To Play' in the menus is really well done and the tips do a good enough job when left on and first encountering blocks/mobs in the game. Obviously Legacy Console is limited and the digital versions aren't going to be around forever while the disk copies will always be out there. Behaviourpacks are a fine community content experience on Mobile or Windows 10 versions of Bedrock but not console versions and they aren't in the marketplace so searching online for content be aware of the safe sites to go to.

Otherwise a fine post/article but I do think a bit more to add to the differences but still being neutral about it (us commenters can go further in threads of course) is necessary for something like this for players that really want to know which they want and haven't bought the game yet that or the Youtube videos or other social media posts that have covered the same topic already.

No clue about the migration process though and how it effects players in the long run though even with March 10 coming soon.

I'd prefer having larger light source radi but these are cool, I just think more uses for it besides just decoration should be added.

According to other sources it seemed due to COVID. Either way they are being really generous with currency being used for Minecraft Bedrock's Marketplace/Real World Time for actions being reduced, a free copy of Bedrock Edition for those that have purchased things in Minecraft Earth and unused/otherwise content being accessible besides the last update to the game. While I never cared for Minecraft Earth, what a way to end off a game I got to say.