Oh Stephen keep up the faith, if we can count on anyone to stay faithful during server downtime, it's you :biggrin.gif:
aww so nice, don't worry I'm checking daily for updates, can't wait for it to come back! I love a new world... New world = new opportunities! :3
EDIT: Woo 1.8 came out officially! By the way I'm getting an internet update! 4x the speed I have now! 20mb/s! Comcast blast! another thing I'll talk about later in game but it has to do with theatre/forensics :smile.gif:
EDIT:EDIT: Erm, one question.. I saw somewhere that bukkit could take 2-3 weeks to come out, any chance of getting a temporary server up?
Just found this seed while messing around! Its a rare find but its a full water swamp very pretty, I recommend using jolicraft when viewing the swamp..
PS: It was just a bit south of the spawn, you spawn on a dreadfully scarcely resourced island.
Its a random error I got while playing minecraft, the game shutdown instantly (I run a fast computer) and when I logged back on a lot of my stuff was missing. ALSO! My food bar is frozen! D:! I can't seem to get it unstuck and its ruining the fun.
Error Log:
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# A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
#
# EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION (0xc0000005) at pc=0x3d800000, pid=5612, tid=4532
#
# JRE version: 6.0_25-b06
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11 mixed mode windows-x86 )
# Problematic frame:
# C 0x3d800000
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
# http://java.sun.com/webapps/bugreport/crash.jsp
# The crash happened outside the Java Virtual Machine in native code.
# See problematic frame for where to report the bug.
#
--------------- T H R E A D ---------------
Current thread (0x4984e800): JavaThread "Minecraft main thread" daemon [_thread_in_native, id=4532, stack(0x4dea0000,0x4def0000)]
Instructions: (pc=0x3d800000)
0x3d7fffe0:
[error occurred during error reporting (printing registers, top of stack, instructions near pc), id 0xc0000005]
Register to memory mapping:
EAX=0xc002337c is an unknown value
EBX=0x000000ea is an unknown value
ECX=0xc002346f is an unknown value
EDX=0x000000bd is an unknown value
ESP=0x4deeebe8 is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x4984e800
EBP=0x4deef010 is pointing into the stack for thread: 0x4984e800
ESI=0x4e160000 is an unknown value
EDI=0x659ea238 is an unknown value
Stack: [0x4dea0000,0x4def0000], sp=0x4deeebe8, free space=314k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native code)
C 0x3d800000
C [nvoglv32.dll+0x12119f]
C [lwjgl.dll+0x7b07]
J org.lwjgl.opengl.GL11.glCallLists(Ljava/nio/IntBuffer;)V
v ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V [jvm.dll+0xfad0b]
V [jvm.dll+0x18c241]
V [jvm.dll+0xfaeb1]
V [jvm.dll+0xfaf0b]
V [jvm.dll+0xb5549]
V [jvm.dll+0x118f44]
V [jvm.dll+0x140a8c]
C [msvcr71.dll+0x9565]
C [kernel32.dll+0x43823]
C [ntdll.dll+0x3a9bd]
VM Mutex/Monitor currently owned by a thread: None
Heap
def new generation total 157376K, used 40721K [0x033a0000, 0x0de60000, 0x188f0000)
eden space 139904K, 26% used [0x033a0000, 0x057aa8d0, 0x0bc40000)
from space 17472K, 21% used [0x0cd50000, 0x0d109d08, 0x0de60000)
to space 17472K, 0% used [0x0bc40000, 0x0bc40000, 0x0cd50000)
tenured generation total 349568K, used 298046K [0x188f0000, 0x2de50000, 0x433a0000)
the space 349568K, 85% used [0x188f0000, 0x2abffa00, 0x2abffa00, 0x2de50000)
compacting perm gen total 16128K, used 15950K [0x433a0000, 0x44360000, 0x473a0000)
the space 16128K, 98% used [0x433a0000, 0x44333b10, 0x44333c00, 0x44360000)
No shared spaces configured.
vm_info: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (20.0-b11) for windows-x86 JRE (1.6.0_25-b06), built on Apr 14 2011 01:04:32 by "java_re" with MS VC++ 7.1 (VS2003)
time: Sat Sep 10 10:59:27 2011
elapsed time: 2904 seconds
Very strange thing that is ^ If its my computer remember to quote me so I know you responded and then tell me how to fix it. "Hopefully this isn't in the wrong section"
It must have not updated, I noticed that and edited it promptly.
I thought you were going to ask those questions in-game... I changed it once I saw other being accepted with it in their post.
*Age: 16 (please be honest with your age, we don't discriminate.)
How long have you played Minecraft?: Since around 1.5, so about 100 days of game play :wink.gif:
*Do have any interesting builds to share with us?: Yes I have a water house I like to build, you just have to see it.
Why do you want to play on this server?: I like using spout and I do enjoy the role playing aspect, + its new and I'd like to make friends at the beginning
Do you have anything else to add?: Well, I do have a bad connection on the weekends, so forgive if this double posts... also during the week I use Comcast so I'll be fine then... This will be fun.
In-game RP Application
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Name:Stephen
Age: Unknown
Gender: male
Race: Human
Biography:
---Prologue---
Stephen is a strange man. At a young age he was abducted by a slender man, no one knows how he escaped... After learning Stephen's fate, his mother and father stopped searching for him.. Abandoning him, fearing the worst. During the escape Stephen lost his grip on reality, his personality split in two. In his time spent running from slender man Stephen had to adapt to survive, most assume he became adept at stealth and manipulation. Stephen sees neither good nor evil, values creativity and never chooses sides.
Sadly, Stephen is no longer able to perceive his reflection in any way shape or form, The slender man did horrible things to him, don't bother asking, he remembers nothing.
Brief Bio (1-2 sentences): I do talk a lot, but I'm usually laid back. Don't beat around the bush with me ^-^ I like being told straight up, your opinions.
*Country: United States
*Do you understand all of the Rules and acknowledge the fact you can be banned without reason and have a right to contact the Server Administrator to have any ban that you received lifted?: Of course, though this worries me.
*Have You Been Banned Before (Be Honest, If we Find out you will be Perm Banned. If its something minor we'll let it slide): No I'm actually quite new to public servers.
Concerning potential future moderation of this thread, Mods please read spoiler.
To any Moderators concerned with the location of this thread. I wasn't sure where it belonged since it could easily be put in both the "discussion" forum and the "1.8 discussion" forum (and I can just as easily see it being deleted for not being in the right one). If I have put this thread in an improper forum/subforum, I would really appreciate it if it could be moved to the proper place. If it for some reason breaks forum guidelines and you decide it should be deleted, please let me know what about it is inappropriate so I can refrain from repeating the same mistake in the future. I say this because I've had a number of posts deleted recently and I've received zero notifications or warnings letting me know why. If a post I make is deleted it should be because it breaks a forum guideline/rule and I should therefore receive a warning detailing why, correct?
I spent a good deal of time writing and rewriting this thread (I started pretty enraged, so the first draft was pretty inappropriate) so that it was as to the point and polite (as much as a thread like this can be polite anyway) as I could make it.
Summary: -Notch takes 2 week break from Minecraft development during crunch time of 1.8 release to work on another game.
-Notch details why his cash shop would destroy the Minecraft community if those who played the game on steam couldn't access it.
-1.8 is arriving later than expected, and it doesn't appear that we'll be getting a "complete" 1.8 for some time to come. (Lets not forgot we've still got bugfixes and promises from previous updates that haven't materialized yet)
Because of these and other issues, I have lost a great deal of respect for Mojang and will avoid purchasing any of their products in the future.
[ WALLOFTEXT/ACTUALPOST : INCOMING ]
It is *CLEARLY* obvious that the eFame and millions of dollars Minecraft has made for Mojang has gotten to Notchs head, and by extension, the companies. He catches the most flak (and also, not to be forgotten or taken lightly, the most praise and worship) because he has set himself up as the face of Mojang/Minecraft. He is, to the average Minecrafter, the dude who made/developed/invented the game (regardless of whether it's true). This is in part due to the mindless zealotry with which some of the community speak of him on the forums here and all over the internet, and also due to Notchs own inability to put his ego aside and set people straight about the true nature of the games development.
Having said that.. Here are a few things about 1.8 and things that have come to light recently that have really soured my opinion of Mojang/Notch.
From Notchs twitter~ Jens will be the lead minecraft dev for a while because of a super secret project I will be working on for two weeks.
Yes, you read that correct. Notch is "taking a break" (as if he hasn't had enough) from Minecraft to work on an entirely different project... I'd imagine Notch is wealthy enough from Minecraft sales alone that he doesn't *need* to produce a new game right away from any sort of financial point of view. Let's not forget he's involved in the development of the more recently announced Mojang title "Scrolls" as well.
So to clarify: Even though Minecraft development seems slow and unsatisfying these days, Notch is of the opinion that he has no real obligation to help speed the progress along. Instead he chooses to enter weekend long game contests and work on his other (non-minecraft) game projects.
To any person with a conscious, that mountain of wealth (earned from Minecraft sales) would be an incredible motivator to complete the project that so many millions have paid him in good faith to complete. Yes, we knowingly purchased a product that was incomplete, but that purchase also included a promise of continued development for an unnamed period of time. Unfortunately we were never given any sort of development schedule and the guys at Mojang seem to be cool with a decidedly lazy approach to pretty much everything concerning Minecraft.
Where's the customer appreciation?
It doesn't exist, and I'll tell you why.
The mindless fanbase of Minecraft (No i'm not implying that everyone other than me, or that everyone who disagrees with me, is mindless. But I'd like you to tell me with a straight face that a large part of the community isn't infatuated with Notch to the point of overlooking any shortcomings he or the game might have) seems to see no evil in their dear old leader. They have been caught up in a great social tidal wave of euphoric eCelebrity worship not unlike the "two minutes hate" in the book by George Orwell, "1984". They will take whatever Notch and co. give them and they will rant and rave about how it's the greatest thing ever without even stopping to consider if it's actually any good. It is, I'm sure to some degree, this very idol-worship behavior which has gotten to the mans head and made him think he can behave however he wants without consequence.
Wait, 1.8 is delayed, is probably going to come to us in incomplete chunks, and there's no mention of resolving any of the longstanding bugs/issues that we've been dealing with? (pistons pushing pistons, redstone wiring circuit-autocomplete, etc)
I'm not sure I really need to expand on that. At least Notch is somewhat consistent in that he promises greatness and pretty much never actually delivers.
Lastly, this is another quote from Notch, concerning Minecraft being available on Steam: "Being on Steam limits a lot of what we’re allowed to do with the game, and how we’re allowed to talk to our users. We (probably?) wouldn’t be able to, say, sell capes or have a map market place on minecraft.net that works with steam customers in a way that keeps Valve happy. It would effectively split the Minecraft community into two parts, where only some of the players can access all of the weird content we want to add to the game." ~Notch
If the thought of Notch considering a minecraft cash shop while the game itself is still incomplete doesn't get your blood boiling... Then his pathetic excuse about why he can't bring himself (We should be thankful he's so diligently trying to protect his cash shop for us, right?) to let the community be torn asunder because some people might not have access to virtual items for cash... This man has gotten *RICH* off of an incomplete game and is not only content to just let it putter along while the money keeps pouring in, he's trying to figure out ways to make MORE money from it.
Shame on you Notch.
Shame on you Mojang.
You suckered me in with an interesting game and all sorts of wild promises that never seem to fully materialize.
Won't happen again!
Was fun while it lasted.
If you made it this far, thank you for taking the time to read my thread. Feel free to post and tell me why you think I'm wrong or overreacting. Also feel free to chime in if you feel similarly to me and are rather let down.
Please try to keep discussion civil and orderly. I realize it can be an emotional subject for some (myself included), but let's try and argue with our brains, not our hearts. My disgust is pointed directly at Mojang, and not at any individual of the community, so please refrain from making personal attacks towards me or anyone else who posts in this thread and the favor will be returned.
I've read through this post about 20 times just to make sure I've toned down anything that could be considered insulting (except I guess towards Notch *rage*). If I somehow missed something or you take offense at something I've said, please let me know and I will try to promptly make the necessary changes.
It's not my intention to lash out at the community, it is my intention to express my disgust at Mojang/Notchs business practices in a place that they are most likely to see it.
Thanks again if you actual read my novel. Happy posting!
First of all! Your post is fallacious! Have you even considered Notch being a normal person? You are narcissistic, don't assume everyone thinks like you do.. Maybe he wanted to have a bit of fun, is that a crime? Also your post saying everyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot or whatever you said exactly is ridiculous..
Be open to new ideas... This post is ridiculous I did not read the entire thing because I saw so many errors at the beginning it was not worth my time. By the way! He never said you were buying the game, you buy an account to play the game.. The game progress can be stopped at any time and you wouldn't be able to say anything about it.
Furthermore! He invented the game, you are being selfish and impatient and I usually don't use personal attacks in a post but you sir/madam deserve some "spanking"... Don't think you have power over what he does because you paid for something he created.. No This is not a worship post and I'm not a "zealot" as you so put it, This post is to show you that you need to be more open.
Never mind I did some quick research... apparently it could be 4 different things but the main thing that sticks out at me is server being down... I be it will be up shortly.
Errr.... it says I'm no longer on the whitelist :x what happened?
If you hadnt notice from the GUIs and the Sun and Moon... We made that more for Laughs than a serious Server Texture pack. I'll add that to the Forum to let people know in advance next time. I dont think you can have a RP Texture pack with NPH and George Foreman on everything :tongue.gif:
Well, "notch" if you want creepy.. they should screech when you look at them.. also when they run they should run with ever increasing speed, in other words the longer they run the faster they go.
Finally there should be something that keeps you from just staring at them and feeling safe; they could multiply when you look at for to long or maybe they slowly start walking toward you as if they are just coming to check you out, but if you run they bum rush you
Love the Idea of a creepy monster in minecraft, makes the game fun.
PS: Night is way to easy at the moment for veterans, its too easy to just take out a 1x2 chunk out of the wall and put a door down to make a home maybe if a house isn't properly supported they should crumble very slightly occasionally?
maybe if a house isn't properly supported they should crumble very slightly occasionally?
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aww so nice, don't worry I'm checking daily for updates, can't wait for it to come back! I love a new world... New world = new opportunities! :3
EDIT: Woo 1.8 came out officially! By the way I'm getting an internet update! 4x the speed I have now! 20mb/s! Comcast blast! another thing I'll talk about later in game but it has to do with theatre/forensics :smile.gif:
EDIT:EDIT: Erm, one question.. I saw somewhere that bukkit could take 2-3 weeks to come out, any chance of getting a temporary server up?
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^ fred supports -grumble- still hungry.
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PS: It was just a bit south of the spawn, you spawn on a dreadfully scarcely resourced island.
SEED: octopus' swamp [case sensitive]
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Severity: 8
Repeatable?: Maybe
Importance for Fixing: 10
The Glitch...
Its a random error I got while playing minecraft, the game shutdown instantly (I run a fast computer) and when I logged back on a lot of my stuff was missing. ALSO! My food bar is frozen! D:! I can't seem to get it unstuck and its ruining the fun.
Error Log:
Very strange thing that is ^ If its my computer remember to quote me so I know you responded and then tell me how to fix it. "Hopefully this isn't in the wrong section"
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Age - 16
Did you vote for us? - yes
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It must have not updated, I noticed that and edited it promptly.
I thought you were going to ask those questions in-game... I changed it once I saw other being accepted with it in their post.
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Server Application
Minecraft Name: StephenSeed
*IRL Name: StephenSeed
*Age: 16 (please be honest with your age, we don't discriminate.)
How long have you played Minecraft?: Since around 1.5, so about 100 days of game play :wink.gif:
*Do have any interesting builds to share with us?: Yes I have a water house I like to build, you just have to see it.
Why do you want to play on this server?: I like using spout and I do enjoy the role playing aspect, + its new and I'd like to make friends at the beginning
Do you have anything else to add?: Well, I do have a bad connection on the weekends, so forgive if this double posts... also during the week I use Comcast so I'll be fine then... This will be fun.
In-game RP Application
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Name:Stephen
Age: Unknown
Gender: male
Race: Human
Biography:
---Prologue---
Stephen is a strange man. At a young age he was abducted by a slender man, no one knows how he escaped... After learning Stephen's fate, his mother and father stopped searching for him.. Abandoning him, fearing the worst. During the escape Stephen lost his grip on reality, his personality split in two. In his time spent running from slender man Stephen had to adapt to survive, most assume he became adept at stealth and manipulation. Stephen sees neither good nor evil, values creativity and never chooses sides.
Sadly, Stephen is no longer able to perceive his reflection in any way shape or form, The slender man did horrible things to him, don't bother asking, he remembers nothing.
The events following occurred during the escape.
John hurry get up! We need to move!
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Real First Name: Stephen
Gender: Male
Age: 16
Brief Bio (1-2 sentences): I do talk a lot, but I'm usually laid back. Don't beat around the bush with me ^-^ I like being told straight up, your opinions.
*Country: United States
*Do you understand all of the Rules and acknowledge the fact you can be banned without reason and have a right to contact the Server Administrator to have any ban that you received lifted?: Of course, though this worries me.
*Have You Been Banned Before (Be Honest, If we Find out you will be Perm Banned. If its something minor we'll let it slide): No I'm actually quite new to public servers.
*Required
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external exception: java.net.socketexception:software caused connection abort: recv failed
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First of all! Your post is fallacious! Have you even considered Notch being a normal person? You are narcissistic, don't assume everyone thinks like you do.. Maybe he wanted to have a bit of fun, is that a crime? Also your post saying everyone who doesn't agree with you is an idiot or whatever you said exactly is ridiculous..
Be open to new ideas... This post is ridiculous I did not read the entire thing because I saw so many errors at the beginning it was not worth my time. By the way! He never said you were buying the game, you buy an account to play the game.. The game progress can be stopped at any time and you wouldn't be able to say anything about it.
Furthermore! He invented the game, you are being selfish and impatient and I usually don't use personal attacks in a post but you sir/madam deserve some "spanking"... Don't think you have power over what he does because you paid for something he created.. No This is not a worship post and I'm not a "zealot" as you so put it, This post is to show you that you need to be more open.
/Thread
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Errr.... it says I'm no longer on the whitelist :x what happened?
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OH!I didn't know it was for gags :X.