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Quote from hashimstertle

Hell, I wouldn't mind a good mix between the old terrain generator and the current. However I'm quite satisfied with the current landscapes as I didn't like to build on the exceptional hills so I wouldn't screw up the beauty. But to be frank, you're acting like a hypocritical asshole, therefore I wouldn't support it. I love the idea, but why support something if the representative is an egocentric *****. You've berated a good handful of people who disagreed with you, so don't ask for respect if you're not going to dish any out yourself or cloak your disapproval with a ***** smile.

Quote from hashimstertle

Hell, I wouldn't mind a good mix between the old terrain generator and the current. However I'm quite satisfied with the current landscapes as I didn't like to build on the exceptional hills so I wouldn't screw up the beauty. But to be frank, you're acting like a hypocritical asshole, therefore I wouldn't support it. I love the idea, but why support something if the representative is an egocentric *****. You've berated a good handful of people who disagreed with you, so don't ask for respect if you're not going to dish any out yourself or cloak your disapproval with a ***** smile.

First of all you have no clue what you are talking about and that is apparent as we are not asking for the old gen back ...What is apparent that you are immature as any adult or even a young adult would know that calling someone names is very immature ...And i will have you know my Fiance is not a "a**hole or a *****" as you have called him ...He is very intelligent and knows his minecraft and that is what probably got you all upset ...So before you go off flipping at the gums i would read the whole post and know what you are talking about ....or at least have some concept of it before making yourself look stupid

Quote from freedomia

You are both welcome!

Should I put a message on there "This post may affect people prone to seizures"

Quote from ThrillD

Sorry about that, I should have clarified. Yes, I definitely support.

Quote from BC_Programming

I don't quite agree with the OP here. It says, "before 1.8 how often did you go mining"- the answer was not never. I found the above-ground formations to be boring and repetitive, and having to trek across it to find pumpkins was a pain in the butt. Now my main annoyance is that the scale of the world is overall larger, so the distance between landmarks is greater, making it difficult to keep one's bearings. However those landmarks are still pretty epic; for ravines cutting across rivers, x-shaped ravines that connect, and so forth. Underground formations are much better too, with large caverns and whatnot.


Compare these screenshots:

Screenshot 1:

Screenshot 2:

Screenshot 3:

Screenshot 4:

One of these was created with the latest snapshot version. The others were created with a pre 1.8 version.

Every time terrain gen was changed- without exception- there are adherents who insist that something is "missing" about the new terrain generator. Often they can't really say why, and- like the Original Post- seem to attribute it to factors that simply do not exist; the new terrain generation is rather repetitive at a larger scale, but the old MC was no less repetitive, it just happened to balls up the generation and make things like overhangs or floating tree-filled sky Ithmuses.

A few days ago I rolled back to a really old MC version, the first one I played; I made a new world and wandered about for a bit, and was struck by the repetitiveness of the world. I tried this several more times, each time the world didn't really have a whole lot to offer. Now, sure, after some wandering I might encounter a neat overhang or whatever, but when you see 5 or 6 of those in a single exploring session it's repetitive. Later versions tend to provide more diversity from what I can tell. The biomes are a lot bigger, and because of that it can seem repetitive since you might be in a biome without any landmarks; with earlier versions you could usually see some other biome to get your bearings, and this had the effect of making you perceive diversity because you would see them together more often.

Looking at the screenshots, I actually don't think I'd be able to pick out the one generated by the latest snapshot.

And here's something I thought was pretty neat looking in the latest snapshot that I saw:

Quote from ChaosGuardian

I posted this in my thread a while back. Look at it - it's all flat!

inb4 "EW DESART NEXT TEW TAIGA" (I couldn't give two shits about random biome placement.)

Quote from Seimiro

Everyone is all like "Oh, extreme hills, extreme hills, extreme hills. EXTREME HILLS!" Let me tell you (about homestuck) something. When I see extreme hills, I say, "Oh, a biome with few trees, hard to traverse, barely any grass, and animals that suicide themselves. Yay. I want to live in it and look at it because it's obviously so pretty with the barren and empty features." When I look outside at my town, I see mountains. Surrounding us. We live in a basin. I see trees on the mountains, and I see trees on the OTHER SIDE of those mountains. The fact is that people don't just want the stupid height variation in just the extreme hills. It's like having a really pretty girl with a bad rash on her feet. All's consistent and good until you get this bumpy, ugly rockface that tends to defy all that surrounds it. What we need not only of height variation but biome blending. I'd love to see a forest surrounding a FEW, not 3 km long, mountains. That's pretty. I'd love to see a snowy mountain inside a tiaga biome. I'd love to see the snowy biomes above all the others so it makes sense why it snows there (but that's beside the point). You see, forests are flat in Minecraft. I'll tell you, when I went hiking for the 20th time or so I'd done it, I can recall some very radical landscape and even OUTSIDE the trail, so don't give that "Minecraft's terrain is realistic, so shuddap, realism is better in a game made of blocks with magical properties and green smurfs that blow up your house." It isn't it is not meant to be. Minecraft is about simple and quaint beauty, and then taking that beauty and hitting it with a hammer on the crafting table until you're living in a grandour palace with 8 cats you lonely *******! So no, minecraft terrain isn't realistic, or beautiful. It just sucks.
In case you need a recap: Extreme hills doesn't solve the problem, it's just really ugly and does nothing. Minecraft isn't realistic in terrain, (just go look at any world with desert next to a damn tiaga biome!) nor is it pretty. The reason you should accept reality is because right now we have lot something of great quality and something the game centers around. Terrain is a big part of minecraft. If you want to get a map that doesn't look like someone stepped in dog poo, then support this. Jeb should be improving features already included in the game, and should be working on biome integration so we can have some damn variety and excitement when playing this game. Everyone can say Jeb has been doing a very quick job with features and updates (especially modders) but we need to back up and look at this for a moment. So let's just put some ointment on that rash and everything will be ok, alright? (just to be clear, the ointment is a product of us players banding together to MAKE change and then the ointment is Jeb applying the change to minecraft, and the reference was back from the part about the pretty girl)
Now, this doesn't necessarily pretain to YOU, but everyone else WHO HAS SAID ANY OF THE CRAP MENTIONED IN THIS POST. Hell, idk if you even meant that you didn't support this or whatever, but all I know is I saw quite a few on that page and yours wasn't really to long to reply to. So sorry or suck it up, to whichever applies. And to everyone else that I do mean it, READ!

Quote from Bray1234

i completely agree. very important point that nobody, i repeat, NOBODY ever seems to understand. this topic makes it easier to understand for those hard headed idiots out there who dont. thank you.

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mojang is a seed that gives you a LOOT of diamonds, you wont see that everyday in one cave

Quote from airtonix

overly dramatically titled thread is overly dramatically titled!