Yes, which is why I'm using NBXLite mod to downgrade without actually having to downgrade. What was the last version they were in? Anyone reply please! I just need an answer, though I'll look myself.
That is my point exactly. He is stating that he understands the op fully. And you would agree that my TL;DR gets the point across and is easily understandable yet he's asking me to improve it? He is asking me to fix something that is not broken and to be honest I am a bit offended by it. There is no vague point in the summary if you'd read it and aren't a complete idiot then it's easily comprehensible.
I don't know what TL:DR is, so I'd have no idea how it would offend anyone. So you're saying since he's asking YOU to fix it, and the fact he said TL:DR or whatever makes it offensive because he shouldn't be saying that if he understood the full post, but he is saying that and claiming he does understand it entirely? I'm not quite sure if I'm right about how that is, but if I am I understand you there. BTW, on an unrelated note, went to your server, was pretty cool, found the edge of the map, wondered what it would be like if I jumped off the edge.... Then a zombie pushed me off. Yeah, I was just sitting at the bottom in total darkness and about to teleport out when it kicked me off and can't reach the server again.
A minecart mod. One that includes a proper powered mine cart that has a start/stop switch or something. Carts that connect in a train like fashion and can be either empty (to ride in) or contain a furnace, or a chest. I guess it should work both on and offline... Not sure what else but regardless of whether or not you choose to do this, I will be attempting to look into it myself (which should produce rather comical results).
Thoughts?
Ask the guy who did railcraft for this. He'll (assuming that's his gender) probably pick it up if you can convince him to.
well actually im done with the obsidian tools part of it but not he rest (haven't finished the obsidian chunk texture yet) maybe you could help me with the Armour?if you could that would be great because right now my partner is gone and said he wouldn't be back for a little while (a week im guessing?) pm me if you are interested.
i read all of it and made a reply quite long but then the reply didn't go through what i meant was the MOD wouldn't stand out if i made a separate mod for the other stuff just having obsidian tools wouldn't be enough
You still don't understand, or are making me very confused. For the first reply, I didn't really keep in mind anything about the iron fishing rods/bows ect. For my second post, I suggested possible variants for you to program them as in the same mod. I didn't say anything about making them seperate. The mod is too simple to make 2 separate mods. Basically, I proposed that different material bows get different stats. They didn't get any more durability, as the bowstring really determines that, but some make arrows fly farther or faster, ect. As for the iron fishing rod, make it a deep sea fishing rod and it catches larger fish than normal (or more fish in one cast). You don't need to go making stone fishing poles and diamond fishing poles though. You don't want to clutter the mod up.
What about a mod that allows u to make your own new item in game(or put of game,so long as you don't need any coding experience whatsoever) with a custom texture and crafting recipe and item texture and enchantment ( more enchantments will need to be made ) so you can make unique items.Has to be server compatible without needing plugins
Please ask for more details
How would you exactly do this? The coding for that would be equal to a console game itself. You'd have to have umpteen class files in the .jar that are blank, then in game, have a texture interface with the appropriate tools, then set the crafting recipe, must patch that into the .jar without disrupting gameplay, set enchantment, patch that, and then code it's item values, rarity, and all that. That's near impossible at the hands of these guys. Try to change something in your .minecraft folder while you're playing. Try it.
My suggestion is to just add this to your OP and get rid of the waffle and you're done.
WHAT WE WANT:
1. More interesting terrain; More breathtaking and jaw dropping land masses to appear more often then they currently do
2. We want extreme mountains and overhangs to have the possibility to neatly generate randomly in all biomes. We want neat, uniform, and NICE land masses to appear RANDOMLY in all biomes equally.
3. The majority of cave systems and Mineshafts actually come to an end eventually, and appear less often. Seemingly endless caves should be a nice find.
WHAT WE DO NOT WANT:
4. We do not want chewed up and spit out floating islands and jagged gravel spikes sticking up out of a flat surface randomly - no eyesores like that.
5. We do not want the Terrain Generator from 1.7
WHEN WE WANT IT:
In the next release please.
You are welcome.
I don't really understand what Shreads means by saying you don't understand the OP. I've said in my posts (more or less) that yes, we want that height variation spread out equally and not spammed together, and not have the floating blocks swimming around everywhere (well, you said that part). He's also said that we DON'T want the 1.7 generator back, that it serves as an example, and that you acknowledged. The cave systems and mineshafts have been a point as well, which you seem to understand. So I really don't understand what the problem is. Anyway, the next release is too close. We won't be seeing this implemented in 1.3, but possibly 1.3.1? Keep posting guys!
I downloaded the week 22 snapshot and patched it. Supposed minor terrain changes were not very clear but terrain is still very flat. The promising "adventure" game mode was not added into the game, assuming because I was not able to find it, so IDK why it's in the changelog.... The creative inventory is very nice. So yeah.... terrain still sucks atm....
Sitting here, before the last day of school, and thinking, "why not just get rid of all the biomes, and then redo them all?" get rid of unnecessary guff like the tundra (we already have tiaga) and the extreme hills (get decent mountains), the plains (you can just clear terrain and make your own), and giant oceans (really mojang?). Add some rivers, and I mean some big big rivers, mountains, better forests, tiaga biomes that don't all have snow on them, and tweak the others. It might not be a good idea, IDK. Been up all night so....
How about a way which you can create some sort of portal and go back in time to see all this kinds of crazy landscape?
Well, I don't think that'd be such a good idea. Maybe for some players, but that's more of a mod, and for all the generators in all the releases, the number of worlds that would have to be generated would be massive, reducing your fps to.... 0. Ultimatley 0. Making a portal would also make it harder to go to these places, and that's not what we want. The terrain should be in vanilla, because there's no reason to have bad or unfun terrain in vanilla. Seriously, why add a portal to go back when the terrain should be here in the first place? not only that, but many players don't want the old gen back, especially since the old gen didn't support structures we have now, and clay and such was rare (but I'd love the complete sand floor of the ocean to return!) find. We want the best of both worlds, so that really isn't what we'd like. Thanks for posting though! Do you support this thread though? If so, bump the OP and say so in your post!
I support this completely but I have a question. Isn't it more the terrain generation you want to be better rather than seeds? With poor terrain generation seeds would be useless but you can't fix seeds unless you fix terrain generation first. If the terrain generation ever gets fixed then seeds will come back to life as well.
How much did you read of the topic and posts? That is exactly what the OP states. Seeds are useless BECAUSE terrain generation is redundant and boring, hence the seeds produce the same thing over and over.... Your post proves you really didn't know much except the topic title.
The reason I agree with the slider idea, is because changing the terrain is something that affects the community as a whole, and should be treated as such as opposed to something to fulfill the wants of the "some". I'm
Indeed I was peeved, because Lassen was, initially, quite respectful in his statements until you slandered him for having ideals that were not your own. In which case was disrespectful and even more out of line when respect is what you asked of your posters. Sure, I didn't introduce any new say into the thread, and was out of context.
Ah, but that was not the idea, now was it? I don't remember what exactly that post said, but on one of them I apologized in case the poster was really not posting a negative comment. Also, I don't know why I would post something like that unless I was supporting the argument or stating my own ideas. Even so, THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is you taking 1 little line from a whole body of text and justifying your post by deeming mine worse or just as had as yours. Don't try to change the subject. Even if I was slandering his ideas, I didn't say "you poop **** idiot that's never gonna work", no, I explained how I felt about the matter and was NOT USING PROFANITY TO INSULT HIM. And that's why I can say ***** and you can't. Because you use it to insult people. I used it to insult the terrain. Is the terrain gonna cry and flood the plains? No. Is it gonna get mad and eat me? No. That doesn't matter. You are using those words against people who have feelings, and that is the difference.
As for the righteousness, I didn't say you did. That was what you were implying, that since your post contained vulgar language targeted at another person that apparently denounced others and their ideas, it's okay for you to do it, because he's obviously such a bad person right? (that was sarcasm at the end, BTW). The thing that I said about you retalliating was an honest mistake, because replying from a different page than the reply gets posted gets confusing, so sorry there, but even in that fact, why are you randomly targeting me? There have been others who have used those words in these posts. And as I recall as well, very few to none of them were directed toward eachother.
So now you claim to apologize and say you just wanted everyone to get what they wanted. That doesn't excuse what you or I have done. Sure, I posted my ideas, but I didn't tell everyone to support my ideas and take it as the main one. In fact all I really want is the height variation in biomes and not having so much of one biome like mountains stringed together how they are now. How that is fixed I really don't care, and I definitely did not propose a solution like sliders. I just said "make a generator". The ideas must've developed more and more with each post, but I didn't say DON'T make sliders, did I? Did I? Because I really didn't mean to.
[/left]
[left]Even your supporters don't care about language. I'd worry about them screwing up the movement if language is your concern.[/left]
[left]You call me immature, yet you resort to the very same "immaturity" I display by degrading an "immature child" who is apparently too stupid to know better. I'm only stating an opinion that you so much seem to despise. As I stated before, if you had read my post correctly, you continue to berate those with a different view as you have with Lassen who only disagreed with you. Calling people names is bad? Then it would behoove you to refrain from doing so, but it seems hypocrisy is the new thing today.[/left]
[left]But to get more on topic, the idea of this thread has been webbed so much on such a vague concept and you get so bent out of shape when people don't understand. I fully understand what it is you want, I read your entire post more than a couple times, but as Frankincense stated, a slider or an option to form the world more to your liking would be much better than reforming the generator to "your" liking and sacrificing the wants of the many for the few.[/left]
I say webbed, because similarly from the previous posts stated, mainly Chaos' posts, the idea is for more exploration, correct? That a more unique terrain would be better to traverse. However should this change come to place, how would that encourage exploration if the very first world you create is exactly how you want it right where you want it? If anything, it would have a negative impact on exploration, where as now you have to "explore" to find an Extreme Hills biome which would have similar aspects you want right at your spawnpoint.
Then you have Seimiro who explains that the idea is to have these terrain developments in every biome to get this desired effect. All these big supporters convolute the basic idea, so don't get upset with those who don't understand when your supporters are who is confusing everyone.
[left]I "back them up" because most of them "do" know what they're talking about. The slider idea was a great idea to help merge your concept with those that want the generator as it is, but any sort of compromise seems non-existent to you.[/left]
[left]Also, I didn't even mention bringing the old generator back. I mentioned merging the two to get a more conformed terrain that would have the best of both styles. Which is the premise being discussed.[/left]
Oh, ok, so take one little line from my post an exploit it. You dirty dirty politician. TBH you're just bullying because I have replied to your post, and you don't want to take all the heat. I'll tell you something though, and that's words are a form of expression. That is how I chose to express my feelings, so deal with it. I did not use that profanity to call anyone names or denounce purity, so really your argument is void. And did you even read the whole post? Which gets me thinking because I made another post with a lot more profanity than that one. You on the other hand use it against people, to express your opinions, yes, but in a form of insulting others. If I remember the line you are reffering to said "That and they are *****-ass to live in." which was referring to the extreme hills biome. So yeah, take a shot at me, see what happens. Sure I could call you names, but why don't I? Well for one it's against the rules here, two I have a good reputation and I'm not going to soil it, three, it's just not right, and four, it's a big waste of my time. Insulting someone with profanity gets you nowhere. Providing a good argument and statement is what gets you there. Get off my case.
Also, we all have our own ideas on how to put this in action. It doesn't matter what they are, but we all come together for a common goal. Sliders are great, but that takes time, a lot of options, longer gen time, and you have to learn how to use it. I'm not saying my idea is right, because there would be problems with mine as well. We are not confusing people. The ones who say they want the old generator back are, and I or some other people reply to them too and tell them, even if they support or leave a positive comment.
Take a look at this, in MC, you can have a million different ways of making a simple 5x5 home, yet people do it in their own different ways. Different ways, yet it's essentially the same thing. That's all that matters. Jeb will decide how he wants to do it and that'll be that. If he picks theirs, great, I'll be happy. If he picks mine, cool, that's awesome. If he decides to combine the gens, nice. I don't care. The point is, we all want the same thing, and in the most basic and primary form that you can stretch it down to, it's nice terrain. So really the different ideas don't matter. We're not gods deciding how the world should be created. All we want is some nice terrain, no matter how we want it to happen. And as long as it happens, I'll be happy with whatever course it takes.
Hell, I wouldn't mind a good mix between the old terrain generator and the current. However I'm quite satisfied with the current landscapes as I didn't like to build on the exceptional hills so I wouldn't screw up the beauty. But to be frank, you're acting like a hypocritical asshole, therefore I wouldn't support it. I love the idea, but why support something if the representative is an egocentric *****. You've berated a good handful of people who disagreed with you, so don't ask for respect if you're not going to dish any out yourself or cloak your disapproval with a ***** smile.
Your disrespect > Shreader's disrespect in terms of "righteousness"? That's a fupped up math equation.... You love the idea, right? Shreader has only been defending his ideas. If someone posts negatively and especially the kinds of post I've been replying to you should expect to be met with opposition.
but then if i just made it like that then it wouldnt stand out
How much did you read? I did disregard the iron bows and such in my first reply, but I gave some suggestions near the bottom. If you're talking about something else, what's the problem?
0
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/534818-125-nbxlite-olddays-spawn-human-now-with-1011-slimes/
0
Yes, which is why I'm using NBXLite mod to downgrade without actually having to downgrade. What was the last version they were in? Anyone reply please! I just need an answer, though I'll look myself.
0
I don't know what TL:DR is, so I'd have no idea how it would offend anyone. So you're saying since he's asking YOU to fix it, and the fact he said TL:DR or whatever makes it offensive because he shouldn't be saying that if he understood the full post, but he is saying that and claiming he does understand it entirely? I'm not quite sure if I'm right about how that is, but if I am I understand you there. BTW, on an unrelated note, went to your server, was pretty cool, found the edge of the map, wondered what it would be like if I jumped off the edge.... Then a zombie pushed me off. Yeah, I was just sitting at the bottom in total darkness and about to teleport out when it kicked me off and can't reach the server again.
I am so going to the far lands. I'm going. I'm really gonna go.
0
Ask the guy who did railcraft for this. He'll (assuming that's his gender) probably pick it up if you can convince him to.
0
You still don't understand, or are making me very confused. For the first reply, I didn't really keep in mind anything about the iron fishing rods/bows ect. For my second post, I suggested possible variants for you to program them as in the same mod. I didn't say anything about making them seperate. The mod is too simple to make 2 separate mods. Basically, I proposed that different material bows get different stats. They didn't get any more durability, as the bowstring really determines that, but some make arrows fly farther or faster, ect. As for the iron fishing rod, make it a deep sea fishing rod and it catches larger fish than normal (or more fish in one cast). You don't need to go making stone fishing poles and diamond fishing poles though. You don't want to clutter the mod up.
0
How would you exactly do this? The coding for that would be equal to a console game itself. You'd have to have umpteen class files in the .jar that are blank, then in game, have a texture interface with the appropriate tools, then set the crafting recipe, must patch that into the .jar without disrupting gameplay, set enchantment, patch that, and then code it's item values, rarity, and all that. That's near impossible at the hands of these guys. Try to change something in your .minecraft folder while you're playing. Try it.
1
I don't really understand what Shreads means by saying you don't understand the OP. I've said in my posts (more or less) that yes, we want that height variation spread out equally and not spammed together, and not have the floating blocks swimming around everywhere (well, you said that part). He's also said that we DON'T want the 1.7 generator back, that it serves as an example, and that you acknowledged. The cave systems and mineshafts have been a point as well, which you seem to understand. So I really don't understand what the problem is. Anyway, the next release is too close. We won't be seeing this implemented in 1.3, but possibly 1.3.1? Keep posting guys!
0
0
0
Well, I don't think that'd be such a good idea. Maybe for some players, but that's more of a mod, and for all the generators in all the releases, the number of worlds that would have to be generated would be massive, reducing your fps to.... 0. Ultimatley 0. Making a portal would also make it harder to go to these places, and that's not what we want. The terrain should be in vanilla, because there's no reason to have bad or unfun terrain in vanilla. Seriously, why add a portal to go back when the terrain should be here in the first place? not only that, but many players don't want the old gen back, especially since the old gen didn't support structures we have now, and clay and such was rare (but I'd love the complete sand floor of the ocean to return!) find. We want the best of both worlds, so that really isn't what we'd like. Thanks for posting though! Do you support this thread though? If so, bump the OP and say so in your post!
0
How much did you read of the topic and posts? That is exactly what the OP states. Seeds are useless BECAUSE terrain generation is redundant and boring, hence the seeds produce the same thing over and over.... Your post proves you really didn't know much except the topic title.
0
Ah, but that was not the idea, now was it? I don't remember what exactly that post said, but on one of them I apologized in case the poster was really not posting a negative comment. Also, I don't know why I would post something like that unless I was supporting the argument or stating my own ideas. Even so, THAT IS NOT THE ISSUE. The issue is you taking 1 little line from a whole body of text and justifying your post by deeming mine worse or just as had as yours. Don't try to change the subject. Even if I was slandering his ideas, I didn't say "you poop **** idiot that's never gonna work", no, I explained how I felt about the matter and was NOT USING PROFANITY TO INSULT HIM. And that's why I can say ***** and you can't. Because you use it to insult people. I used it to insult the terrain. Is the terrain gonna cry and flood the plains? No. Is it gonna get mad and eat me? No. That doesn't matter. You are using those words against people who have feelings, and that is the difference.
As for the righteousness, I didn't say you did. That was what you were implying, that since your post contained vulgar language targeted at another person that apparently denounced others and their ideas, it's okay for you to do it, because he's obviously such a bad person right? (that was sarcasm at the end, BTW). The thing that I said about you retalliating was an honest mistake, because replying from a different page than the reply gets posted gets confusing, so sorry there, but even in that fact, why are you randomly targeting me? There have been others who have used those words in these posts. And as I recall as well, very few to none of them were directed toward eachother.
So now you claim to apologize and say you just wanted everyone to get what they wanted. That doesn't excuse what you or I have done. Sure, I posted my ideas, but I didn't tell everyone to support my ideas and take it as the main one. In fact all I really want is the height variation in biomes and not having so much of one biome like mountains stringed together how they are now. How that is fixed I really don't care, and I definitely did not propose a solution like sliders. I just said "make a generator". The ideas must've developed more and more with each post, but I didn't say DON'T make sliders, did I? Did I? Because I really didn't mean to.
1
Oh, ok, so take one little line from my post an exploit it. You dirty dirty politician. TBH you're just bullying because I have replied to your post, and you don't want to take all the heat. I'll tell you something though, and that's words are a form of expression. That is how I chose to express my feelings, so deal with it. I did not use that profanity to call anyone names or denounce purity, so really your argument is void. And did you even read the whole post? Which gets me thinking because I made another post with a lot more profanity than that one. You on the other hand use it against people, to express your opinions, yes, but in a form of insulting others. If I remember the line you are reffering to said "That and they are *****-ass to live in." which was referring to the extreme hills biome. So yeah, take a shot at me, see what happens. Sure I could call you names, but why don't I? Well for one it's against the rules here, two I have a good reputation and I'm not going to soil it, three, it's just not right, and four, it's a big waste of my time. Insulting someone with profanity gets you nowhere. Providing a good argument and statement is what gets you there. Get off my case.
Also, we all have our own ideas on how to put this in action. It doesn't matter what they are, but we all come together for a common goal. Sliders are great, but that takes time, a lot of options, longer gen time, and you have to learn how to use it. I'm not saying my idea is right, because there would be problems with mine as well. We are not confusing people. The ones who say they want the old generator back are, and I or some other people reply to them too and tell them, even if they support or leave a positive comment.
Take a look at this, in MC, you can have a million different ways of making a simple 5x5 home, yet people do it in their own different ways. Different ways, yet it's essentially the same thing. That's all that matters. Jeb will decide how he wants to do it and that'll be that. If he picks theirs, great, I'll be happy. If he picks mine, cool, that's awesome. If he decides to combine the gens, nice. I don't care. The point is, we all want the same thing, and in the most basic and primary form that you can stretch it down to, it's nice terrain. So really the different ideas don't matter. We're not gods deciding how the world should be created. All we want is some nice terrain, no matter how we want it to happen. And as long as it happens, I'll be happy with whatever course it takes.
2
Your disrespect > Shreader's disrespect in terms of "righteousness"? That's a fupped up math equation.... You love the idea, right? Shreader has only been defending his ideas. If someone posts negatively and especially the kinds of post I've been replying to you should expect to be met with opposition.
0
How much did you read? I did disregard the iron bows and such in my first reply, but I gave some suggestions near the bottom. If you're talking about something else, what's the problem?