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    posted a message on How Terrible is My (And Your) Computer?
    Let's not forget the benefits of having tons of ram in case of a memory leak. Gives you MUCH more time to catch it before you're in a world of ram-starved oh-my-god-why-isn't-my-cursor-moving hurt.

    And CS6/Vegas Pro 12 gobbles ram. I might upgrade to 16 gigs just for that.
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    posted a message on Upgrade Time (MB,CPU,RAM) AM3+
    Quote from Furgazi

    Sorry I didn't use pcpartpicker.

    CPU/Motherboard combo: http://www.newegg.co...t=Combo.1336436 ($226.98 w/ $15 rebate)
    RAM: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16820145345 ($59.99)
    Video Card: http://www.newegg.co...N82E16814121643 ($99.99 w/ $10 rebate)

    Total: $386.96

    The CPU is a better value than the 6300 and the motherboard you picked is a bit overkill.
    7770 >>>>>> 640. That video card will bottleneck the 8320 in every game but Civ V.
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    posted a message on Around $1000 Gaming Computer Advice
    Quote from ktb1

    So, I'll probably only need 8GB of RAM? On my computer right now I don't know how much RAM it has, but it seems to slow down and freeze up. Would it be worth it to go with the 16GB just in case?
    Unless you know what RAM rendering is, then you only need 8GB.
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    posted a message on Upgrade Time (MB,CPU,RAM) AM3+
    It would be a smart idea to upgrade your video card while you're at it. A 440 is pretty shoddy for what you're doing.

    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($117.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($78.56 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $346.52

    This would be my Intel recommendation: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/19Ea5
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    posted a message on Around $1000 Gaming Computer Advice
    Try building one. It's fun and you save a lot of money and ensure your build quality is good. We'll help you choose each part. Otherwise, try Avadirect. That PC is very underpowered for $1000, and won't run games terribly well.
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    posted a message on Powerful Enough for Minecraft?
    Quote from fm87

    Fix yo settings and uninstall mods.
    Done, done, and done. The last done was Optifine. Oh well, I don't play it enough to dig terribly deep into it.
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    posted a message on Powerful Enough for Minecraft?
    I'm honestly starting to believe it scales inversely with hardware strength. I can barely manage 50 FPS with my 7970/3570k. No idling, either.
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    posted a message on Dual Monitors
    If you're just using that second monitor to run Chrome, then you won't be trading much performance. Worst case scenario is your GPU consumes more power. My 7970 won't clock down its memory when running two monitors. If you intend to do surround gaming, you need three monitors and a beefy GPU combo.

    Remember that most games won't let you move your cursor outside the window, even when paused. Call of Duty, The Witcher 2, and a whole bunch of other games have this problem.
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    posted a message on PC part testing
    You might get a beep code and a light or two, but that's the best case scenario. You probably won't hear anything at all. I've never tried it, much less do I want to.
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    posted a message on ~$1400 Gaming PC Build. Need a pros approval
    Quote from 777300ER

    I was wondering, why the 4670k? They seem to be the ovens of the gaming world.
    If you're only going to 4.0-4.2GHz, they're okay. Z87 is definitely a better chipset, so as long as the price of the CPU is similar, it's okay. Obviously, if the 3570k was $50 cheaper, we'd recommend that.
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    posted a message on Buying a new pc
    Quote from SodaDrinksYou

    A 4350 is equivalent to a dual core i3, even worse actually. A 6350 still bottlenecks extremely in some games. How are those capable of reaching your GPU's full potential in all games? Looks like you need a basic lesson in bottlenecking.


    What games, Prime95? Here's some benchmarks using a heavily overclocked 770. Do you notice any extreme frame rate disparity between a 6300 and a 2500k? That doesn't even account for the increased clockspeed of the 6350s and 3240s and the 6300/4300's overclocking potential. Paying another $80+ for 4 FPS is madness.






    Even in a CPU bound game, where three 7970s are used to specifically create a CPU bottleneck, the $120 3220 maxes out the monitor. Remember, this is in a $2000+ build.


    For reference, even when a GPU bottleneck is present in the high end, most CPUs still pull 60 FPS. There's also a clear disparity between intel and AMD cpus, but that's just how the game was coded. Remember, Civ V is the most CPU-bound game I know of, mostly because it doesn't have much to render, and it has a LOT to calculate.



    Even according to Anand, a Piledriver quad-core (not even the top bin!) can withstand a single 7970

    The A8-5600K scores within a percentage point or two across the board in single GPU frame rates with both a HD7970 and GTX 580


    And don't even get me started on Linus.
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    posted a message on What makes you wanna throw your computer out of the window?
    Quote from InfoTeddy

    When I try to run Minecraft 1.5.2 today and there is an error and then I find out that I can only play the snapshot.

    Also, whenever Fraps stops recording and doesn’t notify me because the 931 gibibytes storage have been used up.

    Or you could, y'know, not play long enough to fill a 1TB HDD with footage. I have trouble filling a 500GB one @1080-120p. I can barely imagine what you're doing.
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    posted a message on What makes you wanna throw your computer out of the window?
    Quote from SteevyT

    I'd probably chuck water on it first, but that's because the fire extinguisher is farther away than my kitchen sink.
    It would take a while to fill a large enough bucket to put out the fire. A fire extinguisher would still be the best option.
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    posted a message on Buying a new pc
    Quote from SodaDrinksYou

    You haven't seen the worst man, there are seriously people on here who think you need 32gb of RAM and people who think its okay to pair a $130 CPU with a $450 GPU
    A $130 CPU is more than enough for a $450 GPU, if you and I are thinking of the same CPU. Hell, an OC'd 4300 or 3240 can handle a 7970 just fine.

    Quote from CodofMC

    Are you sure you need the features of Windows Ultimate though? If you don't need it you can save some money switching to Home Premium.

    https://www.avadirec....asp?PRID=24471
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    Quote from CodofMC

    16GB of RAM

    Are you sure you need the features of Windows Ultimate though? If you don't need it you can save some money switching to Home Premium.

    https://www.avadirec....asp?PRID=24471
    Get one 8GB stick of RAM, then upgrade with another 8GB stick of RAM if needed. If you can't do that, get 2x4GB then get another 2x4GB down the road. I sincerely doubt it will be needed. And please, for the love of god, don't get that overpriced Dominator Platinum crap. Get the cheapest stuff available.
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    posted a message on ~$1400 Gaming PC Build. Need a pros approval
    Quote from MCArmadillo

    The ASUS 770 is the same price as a Gigabyte 7970.....
    You really don't need a mechanical keyboard unless you know why you need one...
    ^^Some people annoy the >whynoswearing< outa me, like the guy above....
    Gentlemen...

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