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Aug 22, 2012Posted in: PC ServersQuote from WordworksExperiment
Fact or Fiction
It's been pointed out by many forum readers that this is a hoax. They are not completely wrong. I will clear up what happened and what didn't.
- Most importantly, the screenshots are fake and are from a recreation
- The experiment took place during Beta 1.3.X, the screenshots are from Minecraft 1.2.5
- The merchants guild wasn't as successful as the story says, they were however the only structure left standing.
- Most of the fortresses actually took 4 or 5 weeks to completely decay even though the world was scarred horribly
- The nether was encased in a 42x42 bedrock wall to disable travel via portals so it wasn't as profitable to the players as originally suggested.
- The griefers base had been broken into a few times but they held off successfully, near the end they spent all their time defending though.
- Cobblestone generators weren't considered because people were still surrounded by stone.
- The bottom of the map was an endless maze of 2x1 tunnels which were amazing to explore
- I had hosted the server for 2 months because as an university student that's all I could afford. I can't access the map any more and due to modding I've lost my screenshots of the real thing a long time ago
Really? I think we already figured that out. Also, the experiment never took place under your hands. Until thirty people come foward..
Aug 22, 2012Posted in: PC ServersQuote from IonIon
You say you've exposed this as a fake? Congratulations, do you want a cookie? Fake or not, the results of this would be highly plausible. If you think it's fake, then recreate it yourself to find out. I'm going to. On a smaller scale, probably, but still. I'm failing to understand why people are so pissy about this being 'fake', as it provided for an interesting read, that really does depict our true nature. I'll recreate this and do daily pictures.
Hey, guess what? I am.
Aug 22, 2012Posted in: PC ServersQuote from Sacheverell
Since you seem to believe this utter nonesense, this brings into question the entire legitimicy of the project;
This brings into question the fact of why the lava is not flowing at that certain point, if the hole was dug by the contestants it would flowing due to the block updates, yet it is not. The only way to achieve this is through MCEdit due to the fact that worldedit even updates lava flowing.
Aug 20, 2012RedstoneLite posted a message on Closed Map Experiment 2 [8/26/2012 1 PM EST - Test]Information has been sent via pm to each of you ^.^Posted in: PC Servers
Aug 20, 2012Posted in: PC ServersQuote from Delthyn
Grass not vital? In this 350x350 griefer world? Let me explain:
You kill skeletons, get bonemeal. Use bonemeal on grass, get tall grass. Punch tall grass, get seeds. This is why dirt/grass is so important, because it is the best way to get food, which is an important item in this kind of scenario.
Idk if melons were there, animals were slaughtered I'm sure, zombies are a dangerous and not-so-good source of food, spider eyes are undependable, etc. Bread would be the staple of this server while it was up, and for those who could get it.
In short: Grass is very important.
This is an amazing experiment, I would love to be part of a server that copies this attempt. The end result though, was cool, but unsurprising.
I said in the long run. In the short run, yes it will prove extremely useful. You do not need grass to grow crops either, you can till dirt to have the same effect. Grass is only useful for spawning animals and the look.
This story is actually copied from another source, with the addition of the fake screenshots. The experiment took place in minecraft alpha, that's why there's several referrals to grass, as it was vital for spawning animals back then.
Aug 17, 2012RedstoneLite posted a message on Should an enchantment table spawn naturally in the desert?I think notch specifically coded it in that on that seed, there is an enchantment table three blocks underground which only magically spawns for you.Posted in: Survival Mode
Aug 12, 2012To answer the main question, griefing is can be interpreted as a sport. Many of the people who have posted, take it for a completely and utter literal sense of the word sport. A sport is mainly something you do as a team to compete against others, which can be defined as griefing. In a sense, the people who are griefing, are competeting against the server as their opponent so yes. There are also some servers that allow griefing.Posted in: Survival Mode
In all honesty, it's up to the players and the admins if they want to allow this kind of behavior from their players. There are many ways to do this, whitelist, bukkit, and just your pure judgement can prevent griefers.
Is griefing a problem? No. Possibly when minecraft first came out, but the fact now is there are several dedicated plugins that restrict the use of hacks and plugins that allow the rollback of certain areas of the map. Administrators did not have this when servers first came out.
For all of you who are like, "Ermegawd why notch just add a report button to allz dey griefers dey r sooooo annoyingss1.1.>!!>!>>!.1.1." It's not as simple as one would like, it takes time and dedication, and not to mention it would fail miserably as this is PRONE to fail in every way possible. It's abusable, if the server allows griefing then how will this so called "magical button" detect this, it won't and not to mention utterly unnecessary.
The simplest way to put this is grow up. They're assholes in real life, and then they're in minecraft too. If you're getting upset over a game, then possibly you should take a break. Then people are going to be liek, "ermegawd but i spent sooo much time in this, and then some greiiiiifer cane and destroyed it." That's partially your own fault as the server should provide protection to the plot you build, etc. If you're playing on vanilla server, then you have to know the risks that come with it.
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