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So as of 1.5 the mobs behave differently, the AI is smarter, skeletons shoot faster the closer you get, zombies mob you and set you on fire if they are on fire, pigman can hit you before you can hit them ect. However I have heard that there will be a new change in 1.6, mobs getting harder the longer you stay in a certain area (SethBling youtube carpet and horses showcase). Due to all of these buffs I have been severely concerned with how the future of Minecraft looks in terms of difficulty. Even on Easy things may be getting too hard, especially when designed Adventure maps, now I play on Normal and by the time I have Iron I have no problems, but there are instances when the game is more annoying with its buffs then it is challenging and fun. Each instance and future concern will be listed in the following post, if you decide that you want to TL;DR then please, don't comment.

Section one: Skeletons

Concern one: "Juggling"
Many times in Minecraft I have experienced getting juggled, both with Iron Armor and without, and without it is an inescapable death, weather I'm in a cave or on the surface, it seems difficult to get out of when you are in. With Iron Armor or above however, I get to spend 30 seconds getting hit rapidly by arrows as I watch my health not move and my durability slip away.

Why this is concerning:
For new players or those playing on easy it can still be extremely frustrating to have this happen, it forces you to use more iron to make armor instead of luxury items, or the death may cause the loss of both the armor, tools, and items that you have collected and took with you. Experienced players (such as myself, I have been playing since Alpha 1.1) may be annoyed, like I am, with these phenomena. So it could drive away younger players, and annoy the older ones.

Concern Two: Arrow Velocity + Rate of Fire
Since the buff of Skeletons their arrows are near unavoidable at close range, the velocity is faster than a fully charged bow from a player, even when up close, where they would be shooting faster, and thus, based on the logic of the player, doing less damage and having less velocity within the flight of their arrows. Neither of these happen so instead you once within 5 blocks ever arrow which occurs around once every two seconds is taken, reducing both your health and your armor durability, if the skeletons were instead doing less damage with less velocity in their arrows when you got closer then it would be fine, however neither of these things happen, thus severely increasing annoyance with how stacked against you the odds are.

Why this is concerning: Due to the recent behavior change of skeletons, I am finding myself less attracted to go and retrieve resources to continue the game, as such, I have been playing less and less, and focusing more on creative mode stuff, while that is all fine for me, I feel something is missing, I long to have gather the materials required to build while fighting balance mobs and other entities to collect, this may be my originalist speaking, but I feel the game should have a little challenge and focus on gathering, not fighting, which is what Jeb is currently trying to do.


Section two: Zombies

Concern one: Mobbing + pathfinding
The zombie, for a long time I found it to be a pushover, something to kill to get feathers (or more recently rottenflesh) However with the new update the zombie was buffed, and it was good... until I tried it. Currently when you attack a zombie all zombies in 32(?) blocks will also aggravate onto you, walking complicated pathways to do so, but the sheer number of zombies that can be aggravated this way is astonishing, especially in Adventure Maps, where in a maze of books that zombies that number in the 10s and 20s rush through the corridors to find you as if they have lived there forever. Causing a large mob to maim the player.

Why this is concerning: Due to this buff, making adventure maps has become terribly taxing as if you don't space them far apart both vertically and horizontally the player when attacking one part of the challenge will be faced with the mobs from another part. In a non-adventure map setting this causes caving to be more exciting and fun, however the zombies will follow you through complicated routes that may involve going around in 3 different levels of a cave to get to you, and this takes time, so much time in fact that you may forget you aggroed that zombie about 5 minutes ago and it ambushes you, so you attack it and a new set gets aggroed and it all begins again. More annoyance for the old, and steeper learning curve for the new.

Concern two: Fire spreading
When a zombie is on fire due to Fire Aspect or the sun, they have a chance to set you on fire for a short period of time, and while it doesn't always happen it almost completely removes most value from using Fire Aspect in an Adventure Map and in survival as it give the zombies an easier time of killing you, especially when you set 5 on fire because you aggroed the whole bunch when you attacked the outlier. Causing a swift decline in the value of a once great aspect.

Why this is concerning: Because of the two new buffs for zombies combined, the fact of the matter is, every time you use Fire Aspect, you are making it easier for you to die, as unless you have fire protection on your armor, you are taking direct, non-reduced damage. Causing annoyance and a steeper learning curve.


Section three: Zombie Pigmen

Concern one: Increased reach
Currently, a Zombie PIgman has a one block increase in its reach than that of the player. Meaning that, when faced with one, you will be attacked first, then hit by knock back, allowing the pigman to get an extra hit or two in, which damages your armor as well as your health, and in swarms the increase means, that when you get close to one, the other hits you back, and then the first one's cool down on its attack is completed so he hits you, and you no longer get to hit the Zombie Pigman.

Why this is a concern: Most RPG's already know it, but the initiative is one of the players most important weapons, both in Pokemon, World of Warcraft, and Civilization as well as other turn based strategies or real time combat, going first allows you to take that extra risk to knock out that pokemon, save a heal spell, or attack a city, even Dungeons and Dragons, THE RPG, has specific powers and skills as well as terms and game mechanics designed around going first or last. Games only take that advantage away if they want to really challenge the player and cause him to be reactive instead proactive, MC is a game that without the ability to be proactive you have lost a significant part of your arsenal as there is very few reactive tools available to the player. Example: If a zombie is running after you, you have the initiative since you can hit first, you can; 1.) Pull out a bow and get some free hits in, 2.) Swing your sword and charge in, or 3) Sprint hit for a hasty retreat. While being Reactive however, you can only do number one without getting damaged, slightly or severely.


Section 4: Increased difficulty when staying in an area

In 1.6 there will be a new mechanic, mobs will spawn stronger with more health the longer you stay in an area, and this concerns me the most, because as far as I have heard, there is no limit to how much health they can have, eventually, it will come to the point that a full wood sword still won't kill the entity, making it significantly harder and longer to fight until that is all you are doing, forcing you to move. Leaving your base behind.

Why this is a concern: Minecraft is a game of fun, about building and expressing yourself, about killing dragons and fighting monster, but what happens when the base you have been living in for weeks all of a sudden becomes to hard to keep, you must abandon it, leave it behind or destroy it and rebuild it. Nothing is more painful than watching your home be destroyed, that is why griefing is banned on most non hardcore servers. So what happens when the very game is griefing you? You leave, you stop playing survival. Also, if you are going to force us to move in order to keep the mobs in check you could at least have an interesting world to explore! The lack of variety is why I don't move, there is nothing else to see. Another concern is adventure maps, I build my maps by hand, all of them in game, block by block, and that takes a lot of time, what if then, 1.6 does include this change? Then by the time I am finished all the loot and the leveling curve I have built for my challenges becomes for naught as the loot was way under powered for the current level of the monsters, but perfect at the time, this is a problem for all maps as well, such as Vech's Super Hostiles, he has a leveling curve, albeit a steep one , that if tampered with just the wrong amount by it taking a player too long, then the loot he has provided is no longer sufficient to complete the challenge because the weapons and armor will run out and you will be forced to use mundane equipment, should 1.6 have this feature, Survival and adventure maps will die.



Thank you for reading, and I hope to hear your opinions and have structured debates and/or conversations about this topic. Once again, thank you for your time.

I will be watching this project, though, in its current state I will not be downloading it, I can't wait to see how you manage to incorporate the bosses, more over, Do you have any plans for the Nether? As well as any plans for a "Hardmode". I am also curiouse how Magic will be implemented. Good luck, and may the codes be ever in your favor.

I support! I have been playing since alpha 1.1 that is right oct 2010! Right before the halloween update with the addition of biomes, alpha was either you had hills and trees or you had hills and snow. Then the biomes came on 31 oct 2010. It was amazing all of a sudden an alpha player who has already spent 13 hours + on minecraft had snow AND mountains AND plains AND forests and sometimes even snowcovered forests on a hill! This to me was better then the nether! Yep, I said it. Biomes revolutionized the game! We then added seeds! A thing that made it so if you saw a map and wanted to play on that exact map you could. We got things like 404 and glacier, and 707 seeds popping out of the walls! We had seeds like "really amazing ocean outlook on top of a snowy cliff filled with trees and coal!" Then 1.8 came, and Notch said that generation was different! After the Beta biomes addition it looked like the 1.8 would be AMAZING! I create a fresh world and look at the land.... and then, my intrest in Minecraft has suddenly dropped. I started modding it, texture packs, even making adventure maps, just to make the game worth keeping on my desktop quickbar. I am now making a map, texture pack, and have 12 different game-changing mods all at once. All that triggered it was the lack of stuff to do, "oh look, diamonds, time to go to the nether, oh look a fortress, time to make potions, oh look, full diamond armor, an enchanted bow, multiple potions of health, blah blah, lets go kill a dragon. yay..." I want to make a new base, but I don't want it to look exaclty the same terrain-wise. I remember pre 1.8 I would search for just what I wanted in a land, often traveling days, just to get good scenery, now, I don't even bother. I support with all my heart, and anything else I can give! MAKE EXPLORATION FUN AGAIN!

I see this going places, what you need to do with the increased spawning rate and area;
1. Don't eat them! It is litterally a ball... of slime..
2. You could make it so when combined with sugar it becomes jello. Heals 2 hunger.
3. You could make slime tools. Durabillity of wood, strength of iron, but instead of the items dropping to the floor, goes streight into you inventory. (great for mining thoose ores that are right above a deep hole or lava.)
4. You could make slime boots. Allows you to climb like a spider, provides defence and durability of leather.
5. You could smelt to make a bouncy ball. Right click to throw. And it will bounce and all tamed dogs that are not sitting will chace after it and bring it back.
That is what I see we could do with all this slime! Please, take the suggestions, even if you don't add them mabey it will give you ideas!
Like I said, this could be going places.

I really don't like this, I also don't like the lapiz ore or Emerald ore. But hey, still stuck in Aplha I guess.

Out of Character:
Name: emualfafa
Age: 15
Where you from?: Colorado
How long you're already playing minecraft: SInce Alpha (Oct. 13 2010)
In Character:
Full name: My name is Ranak Nin
Age: I am 18
Profession: Dethroned King
Background story: (5-10 lines, this has to include everything: How he learned his profession, etc.) My grandfather was a power hungry old man who raised me like a son, that is to say, he screwed up just as much as he did with my dad, the only difference was, I survived, and he taught me his ways, including being stratigic, sneaky, and above all, power hungry. I, at the age of 14 took control of the Kingdom, however, due to the famine, the people didn't 'love' me, after about 149 'accidents' with inconveinent people, one of which my father, the people had enough, even my guard and turned against me, leaving me with only one place to go. This wretched hole of a land. My goal, Revenge.
Personality: (How is your character: aggressive, kind.....) Aggressive, sneaky, stratigic, power hungry, yet defeated.
Skin: (pic) http://i50.tinypic.com/2888ebo.png

You what I found interesting. The fact of, with people flaming it so much, it has been marked as hot, and has quite a few views and comments, probobly so downloads as well! oh the irony.

ugh I HATE when people ask for a 'pre-realese0' 'snapshot' ect. Back in Alpha, the community rarley even knew when an update would happen, it was just load up minecraft, and oh look and update, cool. now it is ehhh, there is no PR ehhh, minecraft sucks, ehhh

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"So, I was mining today and stumbled upon beautiful natural glowing crystals in an underground ravine!"


"...Then I investigated a red glow I could see creeping through a tunnel shaft and found myself in the middle of a zombie hive! o__O"



Well, those are some of the things we could be saying if colored glass and colored light were added to MC!
(images above are not real screenshots. They were Photoshopped by me to show what MC could be like if this topic's proposals were implemented)

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[NOTE]Colored light and glass is something I believe all minecrafters should be able to enjoy with each other without the midleman or knowledge of mod installing. So for that reason, this suggestion is directed towards vanilla. We do however welcome mods here since it's said that "Colored light isn't possible." -_^

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Here is how it could work:

Color Glass Blocks & Changing The Color of Light


Colored Glass and Colored Light are features I have wanted to see in Minecraft for some time. I wanted to see these features implemented so bad that I have come up with some ways it could be used in the game; it would greatly increase building potential and the ability for a player to customize an atmosphere by modifying the color of light. Based on my knowledge working in the game industry as an indiegame digital artist, I know that the impact something like colored glass and light would have on minecraft would be more important than most people know. In fact, it may even be safe to say that even Mojang underestimates the aesthetic importance of colored light and being able to manipulate it.
Here is a little diagram that briefly explains my proposition:





Here is a colored light mod that CptSpaceToster in a video spotlight! check it out! (ehem you too mojang -_^) colored light IS possible and it IS necessary this video shows that:



Here is a different crafting recipe that was originally suggested by ChadGarion25. It is fantastic and gives cauldrons an actual use.



Tell me what you guys think

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Cool Ideas by you guys -_^:

I propose that we should be able to destroy obsidian quickly with gold pickaxes but recieve no obsidian block.

Portals that are generated from traveling between the Overworld and the Nether are often created in undesireable locations. It can take over 3.5 minutes (up to 4.5, if created in mid-air) of non-stop mining to clear away the unwanted obsidian with a diamond pickaxe. Large sheets of obsidian can form underground that are near impossible to remove.

If gold pickaxes could mine obsidian in 5 seconds (compared to 15 seconds with diamond picks) then misplaced portal frames could be cleared in as little as 1.2 minutes (up to 1.5 minutes for mid-air.)

Keep in mind that one gold pickaxe has only 33 uses, which means you would only be able to clear out two portals' worth of obsidian per pick. Once again, this obsidian is being destroyed.

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Alternate suggestion:

Quote from Bumber

Idea for having gold pickaxes collect obsidian:

Gold picks can currently only collect what wood picks can collect. It would be odd to have the hardest material in the game (obsidian) be an exception to the rule.

Perhaps gold could have its mining strength increased to that of iron (since gold ore requires an iron pick to mine,) with durability remaining around the same.

Obsidian could then be moved down to requiring iron, but having an absurd mining time.

Something in the ranges of:
Iron pick: 15-30 sec (recommended: 20)
Gold pick: 3-5 sec (recommended: 3)
Diamond pick: 5-15 sec (recommended: 7)

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Thank you very much for giving an honest and informative response. So far I have

Given the player armour and weapons for the start and have given more instructions for the lever room. I have put a sign saying no to bring the pig with you. Could you tell me where you died on the rollercoaster? The mooshroom was Ahuitzotl mostly for the pun . You saw it twice because its there twice but the first time its unreachable.

I have given you a reputation point for it and I'll do everything that you have cited that needs to be done.

I died on the rollercoaster in some room where there was the face in the wall made of flowing lava.

also sweet, one reputation point, only 19,999 more for exalted and my epic mount.

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I have released a new update as of the comments of Experiment626. Now a lot of bugs are fixed thanks to him.

very cool, I'm glad to see it fixed so quickly. It's short enough actually, I think I'll go do it again.

My thoughts:

• Does anyone else recall in the 1.8 update when terrain was being reconfigured? One little side effect was the lack of snow in all biomes until 1.0. This made the standard boring, lifeless, and snow-covered taiga biome a beautiful spruce/coniferous forest, which was my favorite biome at the time.

My suggestion:

• Bring back the spruce/pine/coniferous forest from 1.8 as a new biome.
• Make it slightly grassier with dandelions and lots of ferns.
• Make water color in the biome clearer and less blue.
• Perhaps make the fishing rate faster in the rivers that cut through. (this should make sense because trout love cold, clean river water). Also, I personally believe every biome should have a special quirk in order to make it unique and encourage adventure.

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The official Death messages Thread!

Introduction

Ever get tired of the Game over message when you die? or every time on a server some one falls in lava its always, X tried to swim in lava. Well I'm presenting a suggestion that has no impact on the game at all! No new mobs, item, that sort of crap everyone suggests... This is something that will make some laughs and thoughts when you die. Its Death messages! Or death phrases, maybe it could be messages upon death, something in that order... i hope.

What is this?
Alright, so everyone is sitting their, like W T F? What is this? Well ill tell you what this is...

So, when you die you will get a message on your screen... In single player and multiplayer the message will appear on your death screen, you wont see the Game over anymore unless you choose otherwise, hence everything is optional. In multiplayer, the message in the console will vary so if say X decides to die in lava 3 times, he wont always try to swim in lava... To bring a more variety to this...

On screen the messages will be of what you died from, since clearly in multiplayer it does that so single player should be alright. The messages will be editable to... so if you wish to, you go to a simple easy to access file, in your .minecraft then open it with what ever you use to edit files and there ya go, it had categories for death types... Some categories may be, but not limited to...

Death by Arrow-Skeleton

Death by Arrow-Player

Death by Lava

Death by suffocation

Death by Drowning

Death by sword-Player

Death by Falling-Player

Death by Falling

Death by Falling-Mob

An so on, under these lines will be the messages displayed for each death, since there editable you can have many messages that you wish to add!


Why have this?
The biggest question of them all, Why have this? Why, Why, Why? Whats the point of it?
The point of it is to make you laugh, angry, confused, or actually figure out what killed you because Ive had those times... I died and don't know what killed me, the skeleton? Or the zombie.

So it could be helpful for revenge because it would tell what player killed you and with what...

Some lines we could have...
This is for suggestions i like, i will simply take the ideas and Copy and paste it here with the Posters name...


peppertyce
I have a suggestion for when a skeleton kills you: "Took an arrow to the knee. Guess you wont be adventuring anymore."

Gameguy602
Fell to your death? Cause of Death: Basic Physics.
Killed by a potion effect? Cause of Death: Basic Chemistry.

We could even take it a step further.
Lava? Cause of Death: Thermodynamics.
Drowned? Forgot to breathe.
Suffocated in a wall? There's no noclip for a reason.

Not too sure on these ones, they might be a bit too situational.
Killed by an admin? Fought the law, and the law won.
Killed by fall damage after landing on a lily pad? Surprisingly solid.

Aioni
Fallen into the void: "X thought they struck oil. X was wrong.
Killed in The End: "X has met the 'end' "
Burnt by fire: "X just wanted that little extra tan!"

FutureNyanCat
Maybe: X was bombarded by a Creeper

EnderBorn1
X was too friendly to Mr. Creep

X wanted a Hug

If theres poisonous cakes : D

X tasted the lie

X's head blew up, from a cake

Roflyx
And 4 tnt:
Y met the demoman

And 4 fall damage:
Y forgot to watch his step
Y saw a sandwich down a pit

Those are just some of the many ideas in the thread!

I just took the first few posts but post your suggestions and ill look at them!

Oh also they wont get on original post until im not so lazy anymore... But i will see them!

Isn't this just plain old Hard mode?

I like the ruins idea, and completely agree with the discovery portion. I have owned MC since Alpha stages, and the discovery portion is slowly dying out. It is almost the same thing over and over again.

I first obtained Minecraft about a month and a half ago, so I don't really know much about the way Minecraft used to be. I've read several posts about how the landscapes used to be more varied and interesting. I really have no idea because I obviously have never played those versions. But what I DO know is that I agree with the fact that landscapes/biomes need some improvement. I myself am an AVID survival mode player. That's really all I need. So after a good 20 hours of game time, landscapes got boring. Sure, when you first start off, you go "Wow, these landscapes are great!" and when you find your first Extreme Hills you go crazy. But then, you know what to expect. Same stuff as always. Now, snapshots 12w21a and 12w22a helped this by adding the pyramids and jungle temples, respectively. Why? Because now the feeling of discovery was back. You can traverse many biomes, and only see a couple temples. It makes the game feel more realistic. To players like me who's imagination is the number one thing that draws us into minecraft, this was an AWESOME snapshot. It adds....depth. And, personally, the desert temple for SOME reason makes me think of the Spirit Temple in Ocarina of Time (half of my childhood is that game).
So, what's my point with this?
I'm saying Mojang has something with these temples. Now, they should use that same concept and use it in landscapes.
Here's some of my 2-bit ideas.

Big Bad Geographic Occurrences.

• Volcanoes. I don't know about eruptions, because that would have to be a lot of new game physics. But maybe lava flows out of a very tall hill. And rare minerals.
• Mountains. I aint talking about big hills here. I mean something that gets very close to the sky limit. Something that would span a good 400 blocks, and of course it would be snow-capped.
• Rare and Strange anomalies. Like natural bridges, arches, cliffs, a VERY large tree, etc.

With all of these, one obvious thing is that they'd be very rare. (I.E. if you made 10 maps along a north/south plane, you'd find one mountain.) This would add SO much depth to the environment. The world is so monotonous. Sure, there is no distinct patterns, but there is only a certain level of variety. What they can do, is add more rare, and random occurrences as such listed. And if you make each feature have many, or possibly infinite, variant.....it changes the whole experience. Once you've seen one jungle, you've seen them all. But what if you find a jungle, but it surrounds a mountain. Or maybe you come out of a cave onto the side of a mountain. Or maybe you find a large, tall, and flat plateau covering majority of a Plains biome? The possibilities are endless. Not only are you a miner now, but an explorer. Yes, this IS called minecraft. But then again, this IS a suggestion.

Less Biome Contrast/Biome Mixing.

I have heard someone touch upon this subject. The Biomes now are too specific. There is ONLY the set biomes, and they never mix. Snow doesn't ONLY fall on Tundra, does it? A jungle isn't always hilly. Extreme Hills would be cool if once in a while there were some trees covering it. Again, this wouldn't mean that ALL biomes would be mixed....you'd still have your usual ones. But toss in some random to the mix (other than locations)

More Above-Ground Generated Structures.

As far as ALL generated structures go, I think things are great. But right now, all we have above ground are villages and temples. Here's some of my thoughts:

• Mineshaft entrances that start on the side of a cliff, or something in the like. ("Speak 'Friend', and enter". LOtR fans go crazy)
• Castles. Something like a Nether Fortress, except above-ground. I realize this is quite like a Stronghold.
• Abandoned houses. Something you'd find in the middle of the woods. With a bed, some food, and a chest with goodies.
• Ruins. Not exactly what this would entail, maybe a big, open stone floor with doorways and chests.
• Mob villages. Okay, to be honest with you, I just came up with this one on the top of my head. Completely crazy.
• Watchtowers. A random tall stone tower you would find. Kinda goes along with the ruins.

So, what I'm getting at with this, is to SPICE up the Overworld. Give it real life. Not saying it doesn't, mind you. Yes, these would all be rare, but wouldn't that give you more of a thrill when you found one? I am a HUGE non-linear, open world game player. And one of the coolest things about those games is discovery. That feeling that you don't know what's over the next hill. Or that huge grey thing is that you see on your map. Or what's inside this chest you just found. Creativity is obviously the biggest function of this game. But I believe Discovery is just as important. I know my voice is most likely going to go unheard, but hay, it's the internet, at least I'm giving it a shot. Please y'all, give some feedback. Am I completely crazy? Or maybe you have some stuff to add. I know you guys have some pretty sweet ideas.