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    posted a message on Why its our fault for what has happened to minecraft
    Quote from ivyn

    So the work that Jens and Jon are doing for the haters is equal to running backyard drug labs? Are you really THAT greedy for updates?


    No it is called an Analogy. Trying to make things simple yet it seems it is still to hard for some people to comprehend.

    Quote from ivyn

    Also you are saying that they SHOULD change the initial design from building?


    Wow I can just feel my IQ just draining away. (Warning Another Analogy!) Imagine Mojang have been building a house. At release the house is no where near done. they have the frame up maybe 20% roof tiles in, 1 of the side walls in place and maybe a scattering of internal walls, it has a toliet but does not flush, has a couple windows in place and 2 of the rooms has carpet. Yet they painted the front put a bow tie on it had a party and have declared it a house.

    Not to mention 2-3 months before this party Notch decides he will build an extra room on the back of the house that was never finished and really serves no purpose.

    Just to be clear I do not hate minecraft. I am disappointed that a huge oppotunity is being squandered.
    Maybe now that Jens is in charge he may be able to turn things around but I am not going to hold my breath.
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    posted a message on Why its our fault for what has happened to minecraft
    Quote from ivyn

    It is difficult as **** to master.


    Then Hire someone who has. Or better yet hire 3+ people who have. 3 years ago people gave them the benifit of the doubt because they were a poorish indi company. They were running the game company equivalent of a backyard drug lab. Dark and dirty.
    However 3 years later they are still running with the backyard drug lab model. They still have not yet refined out the impurites and it has not progressed that much past it initial design.

    Still gives the punters a kick but after after 3 years and millions of dollars later it falls woefully short of where it should be.

    What they have managed to upgraded however is the delivery method so they can sell on mass.
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    posted a message on Why its our fault for what has happened to minecraft
    Quote from doctorseaweed2

    Minceraft in on the brink of collapsing, popularity-wise...


    Minecraft has filled a Market niche. As soon as there is another game with similar concepts and freedom there will be a mass exit from Minecraft.
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    posted a message on Why its our fault for what has happened to minecraft
    Quote from ivyn

    Can you build things in minecraft? Yes. Can you survive against monsters? Yes. That is what minecraft has been and always will be about, no update has changed that premise.


    Excatly no update has changed the frame work and made it more then what it started out to be. Its just that a framework. Its not a full game. Just imagine Minecraft with skyrim style graphics or large and complex crafting tree or large and complex dungeons the list goes on. Instead of bowling the ball down the alley and getting a strike Mojang have dropped it on their foot and have been hoping around for the last year or so.


    Quote from ivyn

    Also, mojang is a GAME COMPANY. They have to release new games, as eventually sales will halt on minecraft. Then what? They want to make games aside from minecraft and I say go ahead. Do you complain that Namco doesn't release katamari games every ****ing day/week/month/year? No, they have other games they want to make.

    once again your pointing out the obvious and missing your own point. As a consumer I have invested in one of Mojangs games and I am sorely disapointed. Why then am I going to cough up more money for another of their games if they can not complete their first game?
    I invested in minecraft during the alpha stage thinking I was helping out an indie company with big dreams but instead I got empty promises and a half finished game.
    I convinced at least 6 people I know to purchase minecraft which I am now embarrased about. When I am with these people and someone says what can we do I say we can always play minecraft and we all have a laugh because it has turned into a joke.
    For a company that does not advertise their products I predict they will have a harder time selling their other games.

    But you seem like a sucker so by all means buy another failed mojang game.
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    posted a message on Why its our fault for what has happened to minecraft
    This is how I see the development of minecraft. Notch started painting an awesome picture. People looked at the outline of the painting and saw that it could be a masterpiece. People got onboard with notch to show their support in this quest of the masterpiece.
    Shortly after Notch got bored\lazy\greedy and instead of persevering or investing in good business model and hiring help to finish the masterpiece he went and lay in his hammock and from there picked up a 2x4 and used that to dip into the paint and poke at his painting.

    More man hours have gone into Mojangs other new games then has gone into their prime Money maker Minecraft. Is it 100% Notch's fault that the game is half baked.
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    posted a message on Apple Rant*
    This is a step in the right direction by Jens. Very simple change that could have been added a very long time ago.
    However will take more steps in the right direction to change my reservations about the direction Mojang and minecraft have taken in the last couple of months.
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    posted a message on This is a game ready for "release"?
    Not only is it small font it is a wall of text. Put some spaces in between points!!

    The problem being alot of bugs have been around since Alpha\ start of Beta and they have yet to be fixed. so no amount of "oh they are aware of it and will fix it!" lines will make it so. There has been ample time to get it right but they havn't yet.

    Its not like they lack the funds to get it done. Its because Mojang is a bad business model.
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    posted a message on This is a game ready for "release"?
    Just to let people know Notch stopped caring about Minecraft near the end of Alpha. He has mentioned on several occasions that he has only kept going with Minecraft because he had followers of the game.

    The guy has an attention span of a fish. Since Beta he has spent 90% of his time working on new features that he thought up that morning because heaven forbid he finish the ones he started yesterday.

    I can only hope (but I am not because it is Mojang we are talking about) that now Notch is on permanent vacation from the game they (Jens) can progress the game in a decent direction.
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    posted a message on To everyone complaining that this game isn't a "full release..."
    I have been playing this game since Alpha and pure and simple this is not a full release game.

    Either Notch is a con Artist or is incompetent. He ran his mouth of saying that the game will have many many features that are now missing, incomplete or buggy. Because of this a lot of people bought into the game and did the free advertising.

    I hear the argument that it’s a 2 man show. (in my opinion it is more like 1.5 at best where Jens is doing 1.3 of the work.) Why is it only a 2 man show? They have more staff members working on their next game. Why? This is a terrible business model.

    The game has sold over 4 million copies. How much more obvious can you get on which game they should be putting resources into? Should be something like a 70% to 30% where 70% is resources’ working on Minecraft getting it ready for the REAL full release and 30% on new games\research. Before Minecon it seemed like it was bearly scraping a 10% to 90% ratio.

    Bottom line is I am not buying any more products from Mojang period.

    Like an early post Minecraft is like a car. It sort of works meaning it turns on, you can drive it and you can navigate your own backyard. But as soon as you want to take it out and drive it with other people you have to take it down to the repair shop to get it into some resemblance of working order.

    Many people who purchased Minecraft in Alpha\Beta had high hopes for the game but Mojang has fallen woefully short of any mark. It has been the modding community that has kept the spark of Minecraft alive.
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