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Quote from EMDude

I viewed some of the comparison pictures in this topic, and I thought that there should be more pictures to concentrate on what the old terrain generator once had, other than more varied height.

Perhaps pictures of varied tree density, better biome transitions, and the such to illustrate your point more clearly? Please excuse me for saying this, but it wouldn't hurt to get some pictures of underwater terrain gen and beaches in as well.

Sure, here is one. A long time ago, I was walking through the tundra and stumbled upon an enclosed lake of ice surrounded by a small hill that opened up on two ends of the lake. I even thought it was quite unique back in the day.





Compare this to 2000 blocks of rolling plains that just happened to be covered in snow :dry.gif:

Quote from steffomio

The new Terrain is totally Epic. It looks so awesome, that I often forget to build something or fear to damage the wonderfull Terrain with my Buildings.

Getting that feeling you didn't play in 1.8 and prior, and haven't read through any or all of this thread. The only thing that the new generator has over the old one is larger biomes, rivers, and the new structures/ravines. The old generation could do everything in your screenshots (which are quite beautiful) and more - There would be trees on those mountains, hills in those forests, and real beaches instead of lazy sand circles.

Quote from Someguyfromcrowd

Ah, but it's not entirely based around merely surviving. You're still supposed to be creative, to an extent.

But it's not entirely based around being creative. You're still supposed to struggle to survive.

Quote from thief_uk

Generally i think the terrain is more interesting and more realistic than it used to be

What exactly is interesting about it? After acquinting oneself with the new terrain features (ravines) and structures, and having visited every biome, there isn't really anything left to discover. The old generator would continuously produce something different, as mountains, hills, cliffs and overhangs existed in every biome, allowing for mountains and cliffs with trees, snowy mountains, desert mountains and the like. Now, this is a forest. This is a pine forest. This is an ocean. This is the desert. This is...
BORING

Every cave system I've entered post 1.0 has been littered with iron in the walls, ceiling and floor. It doesn't take me more than a few minutes to get a full set of iron, without even mining. I never "mine" for iron any more, I just prance around in the endless cave systems scraping it off the walls. Speaking of endless cave systems, it seems that caves are predominantly colossal now. Most every cave I find covers hundreds of blocks, leaving me no reason to actually mine or search for more caves, unless I'm looking for diamonds.

Back in the days of 1.5, I would find iron every now and then in caves, caves that could have been winding and large, but eventually ended. I loved tip-toeing through them, lighting up every corner and mining all the ores I could find. After I'd lit up the whole cave, I'd have to tunnel in a random direction in hopes to find another one. Now, I find myself in caves systems that go on forever, that break the surface in several places, go as low as layer 12, are cut through by ravines and abandoned mineshafts and there's never an end in sight. I know some people like this, but it just feels like the cave exploration and discovery has lost its spark. I used to be excited when I found a huge cave, or when I found ore in them. Now I can walk into a cave without fear of any monsters because iron armor makes me damned near invulnerable, and walk out with a stack of iron in 10 minutes.

Quote from mungjumper

What's this; armour to powerful? You could always, like, not wear it.

I'm afraid I can't help you much more than post things that have already been posted.

Quote from NienteFantasia

I'm not really into downgrading the game either : Minecraft was as easy as it is now back then, the only difference was the number of hits needed to kill stuff. I recognize the game has been improved with 1.7, 1.8 and 1.9 and I'm not willing to lose all the new features for something as trivial as the damage/armor balance. That's not the problem in the first place, at least for me.

Quote from Progeusz

Why are you forcing us not to use armor at all if we just want SOME challenge? We were wearing armor before and the game could still prove to be a little tricky at times. Now it's impossible to get yourself in dangerous situation if you have food and leather armor.

Quote from Piginabag

Some of us complain, in this case, because we see what we consider a significant problem in the state of the CURRENT, UNMODDED game, being played as it was meant to be played; ie, using every tool, armor, enchant, potion, and block available to us.

Quote from isukun

The problem is that neither analogy is really accurate. You aren't simply playing without pieces in Minecraft, you're avoiding whole gameplay mechanics because the game isn't properly balanced to support them. You have to force yourself to play with different rules altogether. It's not really good game design to force players to avoid game mechanics they might enjoy if the game offered enough challenge to justify using them.


That's why we have always had peaceful mode and why they made a separate creative mode. Survival has always distinguished itself from classic with the combat system (mobs, armor, weapons, health, food, etc). It's always been a major component of the survival game, it wouldn't be "survival" without it.

Quote from Progeusz

And I think it isn't acceptable, it's the fault of game developers that they can't adjust difficulty properly, not mine, why should I be the one restricting myself = not enjoying the game to its fullest?

Quote from MisterD70

This is like trying to explain calculus to the group of kids at the Special Olympics, impossible.

If you want to accomplish anything, get a petition together and bring it directly to Jens or Notch via Twitter.

I'm afraid you're right. I don't tweet, so I don't have that option. I think they just need to read this thread. I feel that most of the people supporting the idea are being entirely reasonable and minecrafts staff should consider our position. Adding another difficulty has no downside, though I would simply prefer a rebalance to the current hard mode.

I'll say it again; people who like it easy have 3 modes of it. We who like the challenge have none.

Some people just don't get it.

What we are complaining about: Armor absorbs far too much damage in hard mode.

What we want: Hard mode to be difficult.

I don't want to install mods. I don't want to have to run around naked beating things with sticks. There are plenty of strongly phrased, constructive posts in this thread about mods and self-limitations. If you're going to post here, show these people some respect and read their comments.

By the way, hardcore is the same thing as hard, and is not a fix. Stop saying that it is.

Our proposed changes will not effect you if you don't play on hard. They won't negatively impact ANYONE if they add an actually hard difficulty; theres no logical reason to complain (which of course doesn't won't stop anyone :tongue.gif:) if there is a higher difficulty level available. Nobody loses.

Personally, I don't think we need more difficulty options, we just need to tweak armor values in hard mode, so that its actaully.. gasp.. hard! If it's too hard for you, play on an easier difficulty. Minecrafters who seek the challenge have nowhere to go. I don't tell you to install a mod if you think the game is too hard, but I have to install a mod if the game is too easy?

Quote from InwardLawyer29

I have noticed how annoying and pointless animal breeding is. I liked it better when animals spawned and you didn't have to worry about killing animals. I liked in beta where you could just walk around and not worry about animals not respawning. It takes a big aspect out of the game. In my opinion, this needs to be fixed before biomes. It is annoying and it takes a big thing out of the game. I think we can all agree with this. I like a lot of things they added in 1.0 just not the animal breeding.

That aspect being.. waiting for animals to spontaneously appear? Whereas now, we actually have to herd and feed them? What exactly was taken out of the game here?

Quote from MrMafia7

The game is easy, yes. But if it was raised in difficulty (Even an inch) then just as many people complaining about it being to easy will then start complaining how it is too hard. Some of the people complaining about it being too easy will also be doing this too.

We're not asking for the entire game to become kaizo mario. All we want is a "hard" hard mode. Currently we have 3 levels of easy to pick from.

Quote from ReKroot

Play some multiplayer. Within 5 minutes in a good PVP server, you get pummeled with showers of splash potions, lava, and tnt, even if you're wearing Diamond armor.

The topic of discussion isn't PvP, the balancing of which is a much more complicated issue. This thread has barely touched PvP and would do well to stay away from it.
The issue many people over and over have brought up is that MONSTERS on hard mode do jack diddly to someone in full iron armor (not even bringing up diamond), and in my opinion the issue is amplified by the fact that it doesn't even take 10 minutes to get a full set of iron. We just want surviving to be a challenge.

Quote from InwardLawyer29

Everyone is saying the "game is ruined" when it has got better. You guys don't know what fun is.

And you haven't read the OP's post or any of the comments in this thread.

Quote from GingerNinjaSam

People actually complain about te difficuilty of a game where combat consists of spam clicking/holding down the right mouse button?


Ahahaha, REALLY?

Your simplified interpretation of Minecraft's combat and gameplay is constructive and contributes to the topic of discussion
NOT

The combat isn't meant to be in-depth and revolutionary. The monsters are there to make survival... survival.

Share me around

This map will be turned into an Adventure map with no mods needed. (WIP)



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Welcome to Pandemonium II, the latest release in this epic saga of hardcore Minecraft survival. What matters to you here, is staying alive. You are about to experience an unforgiving wasteland where numerous others struggle to survive on a moment by moment basis. Mobs will do everything they can to brutally destroy you. The terrain itself is is hostile in nature and key resources are scarce. Players will ambush you, mobs will murder you, and thieves will rob you. However, this is a land of exile. There are no rules. There are no governing powers. The only thing shaping your destiny is you and your blood soaked sword. Go solo or work with others to build a team of champions to survive and battle your way through the elements of this land.


This is a deathban hardcore PvP server. The server is designed to make survival something that is actually a challenge for once and a task that few shall prevail.


- Hardcore PvP and PvE experience (kill or be killed)
- Deathbans (you are banned for 2 hours when you die)
- A truly survival experience (starting zone is a desert wasteland)
- Custom mobs and mob AI to enhance the survival experience
- Game difficulty increases the deeper you venture into the world
- Scarce resources and drop rates that increase with better tools
- Huge content depth from early starting stages of basic desert survival to late game unique dungeon content, boss mobs, legendary items, custom enchanting etc.



From the creators of the original Pandemonium deathban server...
We bring you the new Pandemonium II server, also known as Exile. This server runs the same mechanics system as Pandemonium with only a few minor tweaks. A wiki is in the works to provide greater detail in the future. For now, you will have to rely on the forums and word-of-mouth from the desert's war-torn survivors.


Screenshots:


The epic desert wasteland where your journey begins. This is the new desert of despair!



Small oasis zones are scattered throughout the desert area



Do you dare venture forth into the deep underground caverns?









Rules:
- No Mods or exploits allowed except Zan's Minimap.
(players are frequently banned for attempting to use lighting mods, xray, zombes fly mod, and mods that provide any kind of entity radar)
- No combat logging
- No climbing over or digging through the protected bedrock walls. If you find a hole in the wall, please report it and do not go through.

That's it.
You are free to kill, steal, and pillage to your hearts content. You decide your destiny.


WARNING: Once you are banned on this server, for any reason, you are permanently banned from a network of other servers as well through a shared blacklist. You have a 0% chance to be unbanned from any of Azmodan's / Haliotro's servers, even if you were banned mistakenly. We don't take chances. Once banned, always banned.

You are free to kill, steal, and pillage to your hearts content. You decide your destiny.


Exploit Protection:
- Anti-XRay features are in place on this server. That means two things for you. 1. You can hide chests and be 100% confident that they will not be found by any means xray. 2. You can be confident that players are not finding rare ores such as iron or diamond via xray.
- Nameplates are not visible underground or at a distance.
- Player tracking to identify and / or rollback damage from someone attempting to use xray

Warning: Do not raid or visit a base you find via chunk lag. This will be treated as xray use.


Basic Gameplay:
- Don't die. You are deathbanned for 2 hours when you die. This will cause you to lose everything that was on you. Thus, dying will usually be a major setback. Do everything you can to stay alive.
- Hunger is enabled. This also means you have a very limited amount of time to get your act together. Find a good source of food as soon as possible.
- Drops have been reduced. You will only get a handful of planks from punching down a tree. Work your way up to some decent tools as soon as possible.
- The soil is toxic. Dirt, grass, and farmland can only be harvested with shovels. Obsidian and mossy cobble are toxic as well.
- You cannot pick up sand without a shovel.
- Mobs get stronger the deeper you go into the dark underground caverns.
- Game difficulty increases substantially the further out you go from spawn.
- There is a naturally forming obsidian layer that will help you identify when you are passing into the most dangerous part of the deep mines.
- Gold weapons, armor and tools are better than diamond.
Wood < Stone < Iron < Diamond < Gold


New Players: MUST READ
1. When you first join the server, you may only have a matter of minutes to prepare yourself before night fall. Unless you really feel like you know what you're doing, do NOT hang out on the surface come night. You will die.
2. First thing you need to do, is come up with a basic plan of survival for your first night. That means, find gravel, look for any wood planks, grab some cactus, and build yourself the best possible survival shelter you can with what you've got. The deathbans are 12 hours, so this is your only shot and continuing your play on the survival until getting a 2nd try at it tomorrow.
3. Find Food. You need to work on a steady source of food to keep you alive as hunger is not enabled. Your gameplay will be short without food.
4. Find Wood. You need wood and / or some renewable trees to finally make yourself tools and a weapon. This is a very important milestone, but one that may take you several in-game days to achieve.
5. Form a team or be aggressive. Your chances of survival are much higher if you work together with others or at the very least, kill them off and take what little supplies they might have come up with.
6. Once you have some basic gear and good supply of food, venture underground to acquire some materials worth killing for.
76. Don't pick up dirt without a shovel. Don't break obsidian without a diamond pick. Don't punch mossy with your hands. They are all toxic.
7. Lava buckets are disabled.
8. If you find a rare resource like Diamond or Gold, use the best tools you have to harvest it for better drops.
9. A chest is the only way to save your progress...because eventually, you will die.

It is normal to rage quit on a daily basis when you die in-game. That's part of the experience of playing on a hardcore server. Goodluck



Server IP: 176.9.19.197:25569



Whitelist:
To join this server, you must be whitelisted. This little extra step makes it much easier to ensure that the active community on this server is playing without the use of any disallowed mods as we regularly monitor the active players.

All existing Exile players are automatically whitelisted.

To become whitelisted, please make a post answering the questions below:

Whitelist Application:
1. What is your In-Game Name? (this will be the name whitelisted)
2. Why do you want to join this server?
3. How long do you think you will survive on your first night?
4. What do you think will be the cause of your first death on this server?

Did you read the New Players: MUST READ tips? If not, you will probably die quickly.


Texture pack of choice: Misa's HD Realistic (64x)


I hope you enjoy your hardcore survival experience.

Goodluck and have fun!




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Pro-Tip: Never ever let yourself get a false sense of security on this server. Everyone dies...sooner or later, everyone dies.



Hardcore Team Building Tips:
Yes, working cooperatively with other competent players can give you a worth while advantage. Here are some tips to help you team up with complete strangers:
- The best way to earn trust is by helping someone.
- Take risks.
- Ask around. You may find a number of established players "looking for members to join them" just so they can draw you in and kill you with little effort. If you're new to the server, it's probably best to team up with others who are new to the server. You may want to gauge their skill level before doing so. If you've been playing a while, you should have some idea of who is already on a team and who or who not may be trusted.
- A good starting point is to team up with 2-3 others just to guard each other's backs and work together to clear out the deep caves. It's probably best however, to maintain different bases or at least different hidden stashes if you decide to defend a group shelter. Thus, there would be little benefit in betrayal. Greater trust can always be built up over time.
- Once you have an established team and a formidable team base, you're probably sharing most of your resources as a group. However, I still highly recommend that you agree to divide out the rare resources after each deep run and allow each member to hide their valuables in their own private stashes. These stashes should be well hidden and not simply 1-2 blocks into a wall somewhere in the base. This allows for the formation of large teams without the risk of losing your valuables to a betrayal. This sort of strategy also doubles as protection from losing your best stuff to a raid.
- For more advanced gameplay, use a voice chat service such as Skype or Vent. This will build trust very quickly.

Hardcore Base Building Tips:
Here's a few general tips for protecting your stash regardless of whether or not you choose to team up with others:
- This is a hardcore server. Eventually, your base will be found and it will be raided. Thus, don't go over the top decorating your base and making it look fancy. Focus on essential components of your base such as resource farms, storage, mine access, etc.
- Always hide your most valuable possessions.
- To protect from xray, your hidden stashes should be buried deep and in random locations. This will make it easy to identify xray use. Hiding your chest inside your base will likely cause it to be found. Burying your chest only 1-2 blocks deep will also allow it to be found much more easily.

With these tips, you will be able to take risks and work as a team with others without losing all of your hard work. Goodluck!


Pandemonium 2 / Exile - Difficulty Guide:

Spawn is located at 850x, 350z.


Zone (Medium):
Within 900 blocks of spawn

Surface:
No gear needed
Underground:
Leather or iron armor needed
Below obsidian layer:
~ Armor: Enchanted iron or Diamond
~ Level Recommendation: 50+
~ Weapon: Iron weapons with significant smite / bane or enchanted diamond weapons
~ Loot: Surplus of iron supplies, plenty of diamond drops, rare gold drops, decent XP
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Zone (Hard):
More than 900 blocks from spawn
(in any one direction; not more than 1500 blocks)

Surface
Leather or iron gear needed
Underground:
Iron armor / enchanted iron armor needed, level 30+
Below obsidian layer:
~ Armor: Diamond armor or Enchanted Diamond armor
~Level Recommendation: level 50+
~Weapons: Significant smite / bane diamond weapons needed
~ Loot: Surplus of Iron, Lots of diamond drops, fair gold drops, great XP
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Zone (Very Hard):
More than 1500 blocks from spawn
(in any one direction)

Surface:
Enchanted iron armor / diamond armor, level 50+
Underground:
Diamond armor / enchanted diamond armor needed, level 50+
Below obsidian layer:
~ Armor: Well enchanted diamond armor / gold armor or better
~ Level recommendation: 80 - 150
~ Weapons: Highly enchanted diamond or gold weapons
~ Multiple party members suggested
~ Loot: Surplus of enchanted iron gear, surplus of diamond drops, good amount of gold drops, heavy XP


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New Donor / Sponsor Benefits:

We do need sponsors to help support the ongoing maintenance of the server. As an additional incentive, sponsors will receive a few in-game benefits listed below.


TO MAKE A DONATION:


$10 Donation
+1 life / day
Starter Kit - limit 1 per day (stone sword, leather armor set, 4 x apples)
Type /kit starter to activate
Ability to use /msg and /r or /reply to engage in private chat in-game

$15 Donation
+1 Life / day (for up to 2 accounts)
OR 1 Hour Deathbans
Starter kit (Type /kit starter to activate)
Enchantment Table
Access to /msg and /r



$25 Donation
1 Hour Deathbans
Upgraded kit - limit 1 per day (1 stone sword, leather armor set, 8 x apples, 1 x bow, 20 x arrows) (Type /kit upgraded to activate)
Weekly supply crate - limit one per week (1 x diamond, 4 x iron, 20 x food items) (Type /kit supplies to activate)
Enchantment Table
Brewing Stand
Bonus 35 levels worth of XP
10 Bookshelves
Access to /msg and /r
Invite to all private server events (beta events)


$50 Donation
1 Hour Deathbans
Upgraded kit (Type /kit upgraded to activate)
Weekly supply crate (Type /kit supplies to activate)
Access to /msg and /r
Enchantment Table
Brewing Stand


Eye of Ender
Bonus 50 levels of XP
20 Bookshelves
Oasis Package - available once per week (12 x sapling, 48 x seeds, 60 x dirt, 18 x torches) (Type /kit oasis to activate)
Invite to all private server events (beta events)


$100 Donation
1 Hour Deathbans
Upgraded Starter Kit - upgraded to 6hr cooldown (Type /kit upgraded to activate)
Supply Crate - upgraded to 48hr cooldown(Type /kit supplies to activate)
Oasis Package - upgraded to 48hr cooldown (Type /kit oasis to activate)
Access to /msg and /r
Enchantment Table
Brewing Stand

Eye of Ender
Bonus 100 levels of XP
30 x Bookshelves
Jukebox + Full Music Collection
Longer benefits duration
Special benefits apply to other servers hosted under Azmodan
Invite to all private server events (beta events)

I'm open to custom donor benefits.



This will take you to Paypal. Any donations are greatly appreciated as they help us keep the server running! Donations of $10 or more receive the additional perks listed above.


All previous donors of the original Pandemonium server of $25 or more will automatically be started off at a $10 donor level on the Exile server. Donations are cumulative so if you make a $25 contribution and then later, make another $25 contribution, you'd be at the $50 donor level.

Thanks for all of your support to the server. I know how much most of you love it and so we work hard to keep it well maintained and updated.


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PANDEMONIUM II CHANGE LOG

Posted 31 December 2011 - 10:32 PM
Pandemonium II:

Here's some of the new features that I want to point out quick.

- Nameplates are no longer visible underground, behind blocks, and at a distance
- Mobs get stronger the deeper you go
- Mob drops and rare resources are better the deeper you go
- Weapon damage has been increased across the board

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New Mob Mechanics:

There are now a "sufficient" number of spawns at night and in the cave systems. This is not anything like what it was previously. Difficulty level now = hardcore.

New Mob Hunting:
Mobs can see you from further away
Mobs can break your torches to recruit allies
Zombies can break Sand, Sandstone, Gravel, Dirt, Grass, and Mossy Cobblestone to try and get to you
All mobs are hostile during the day and do not burn

Some mobs have been weakened slightly, but beware.

If you are new to the server, you will need to work very hard to survive your first night.

Here's some tips that will help new players:
1. Don't waste a moment. You will need every second of your first daylight to gather supplies and get to your night location
2. Quickly look for gravel or planks that you can use as building material for your night shelter. Zombies cannot break wood
3. If not comes and you are not prepared...and perhaps even if you are, RUN! This may be your only chance at survival.
4. 3 x 1 covered holes, cactus defense, and running are probably your best options. Goodluck

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New Features / Updates:

Mob spawning has been increased. This is much more noticeable on the surface.

The Eye of Ender bonus has been updated.
+ 1 heart damage all weapons (except bows)
+ 2 hearts damage to bows
+ significant fire damage bonus to all weapons
+ additional experience gain from all mob kills

An eye of ender simply needs to be in your inventory to automatically take effect.

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07 January 2012 - 12:49 PM
Zombies are even smarter and have a little bit better pathfinding.
PigZombies in the normal world are hostile on sight.
Rare spawns of cave spiders below the obsidian layer.
Surface mobs are a little bit weaker for now.

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Beware new players:
If you burrow into a mountain, those mobs are vastly more difficult than surface mobs.
If you make a 2 x 1 hole, you will find yourself being camped by mobs. If you do this, at least surround it in cactus so most of them get killed off in the process.


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The Famous Enchantment Update

The server has been updated with a massive update of about 2 weeks worth of features. Most of these updates are geared towards the enchanting process, enchantment effects, and enchantment drops.

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Table of Contents:

1. Weapon / Durability Updates

2. Weapon Specialization

3. Enchantment Combos

4. Access to Enchanted Gear

5. How the New Enchantment Table Works

6. Enchantment Guide: Weapons

7. Enchantment Guide: Armor

8. Enchantment Guide: Tools


Breakdown of XP per Level in Minecraft:
https://docs.google....VTg5bWxrLUtWTnc

This will help those who are interested understand the difference of xp between levels.

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1. Weapon / Durability Updates

There are a few notable changes here. The first is improved durability for wood, stone, and iron weapons. In vanilla, iron swords have 250 uses and iron axes only 125. Stone is only 120 for sword and 60 on axe. As you can see, they've all been beefed up here. This is to make enchanted low-grade weapons more viable. Diamond axe durability was increased slightly. Gold axe durability was increased substantially.

• wood sword: 2 1/2 hearts, 150 uses
• wood axe: 3 hearts, 100 uses
• stone sword: 3 1/2 hearts, 250 uses
• stone axe: 4 hearts, 150 uses
• iron sword: 4 1/2 hearts, 450 uses
• iron axe: 5 1/2 hearts, 300 uses
• diamond sword: 6 1/2 hearts, 1100 uses
• diamond axe: 8 1/2 hearts, 900 uses
• gold sword: 9 1/2 hearts, 2100 uses
• gold axe: 15 1/2 hearts, 600 uses
• bow: 4 1/2 hearts, 385 uses

Other important damage modifiers:
+ 1/2 heart damage bonus earned every 25 player levels
+ 1 heart damage bonus from Eye of Ender for melee weapons
+ 2 hearts damage bonus from Eye of Ender for bows
+ 12 1/2 seconds of enchanted fire damage to all weapons from Eye of Ender
+ 50% damage for Critical Hits (hits dealt while in mid-air)

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2. Weapon Specialization

This is just a fancy way of saying that weapon enchantments matter now. Mob health has been enhanced, but damage enchantments have been given significant upgrades. The idea is to allow your weapons to specialize against various mob types. Damage bonuses against various mob types can range from +20% to +700% damage now.

Enchantments
Bane: Bonus damage vs Spiders, CaveSpiders, and Creepers
Smite: Bonus damage vs Zombies, Skeletons, and Pig Zombies
Sharpness: Bonus damage vs All Mobs and Players


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3. Enchantment Combos

Unlike vanilla Minecraft, you can now get interesting enchantment combos that stack together for an amplified effect. In vanilla, you can only have 1 damage enchant on a weapon. On the Pandemonium server, you can have 2 or all 3 of the damage enchants on a single weapon. Each one will stack together for added benefit.

Stacking Bonuses
Sharpness damage can act as a multiplier for your Bane or Smite damage as well.
If you have a sword with Smite 3 and Sharpness 2, you will get +150% damage vs Undead Mobs from the Smite 3 and then +30% damage vs all from the Sharpness 2 and extra damage on top from the armor piercing. All of your bonus damage from levels or special items such as Eye of Ender are amplified by these bonuses.

Damage Example
So if your base damage was 10, the Smite 3 would cause you to do 25 damage vs Undead (250% of normal damage). Stacking the Sharpness 2 damage on top, you now do 325% of normal damage, a total of 32 damage vs Undead in this scenario. This means that your Smite 3, Sharpness 2 sword will cut down Zombies, Skeletons, and Pig Zombies 3x easier than normal.

Armor Bonuses
In vanilla, armor can generally only have one type of protection enchantment. On the Pandemonium server, you can multiple protection enchantments that will stack together. For example, a helmet with Protection 2 provides an 8% damage reduction vs all damage. If your helmet also has Projectile Protection 4, this will provide 20% damage reduction from arrows. By having both, your helmet will block 8% of all damage first, and then another 20% of damage from arrows.

Armor enchantments block damage before it hurts the armor. This in effect provides a little durability bonus to the armor. Having Protection 2 on your helmet blocks the damage all of your armor pieces take by 8%. However, if you had Protection 2 on all four of your armor pieces, then your entire armor set would take 32% less damage and your health would take 32% less damage.

Number of Enchantments
The number of enchantments a weapon, piece of armor, or tool might have is influenced by the level of the enchantment you did. Most items will only have 1 or maybe 2 enchantments for lower leveled enchants. For high level enchants however, you're likely to see 3 or 4, or in very rare cases, 5 enchants on a single weapon. Similarly with armor, you might only see 1 enchantment at lower levels, but you'll start to see combinations of 2, 3 or possibly even 4 enchants at higher levels.

Swords:
level 0 - 24: 1 enchantment
level 25 - 49: 1 typically, sometimes 2
level 50 - 74: 1 - 2 typically, sometimes 3
level 75 - 100: 1 - 3 typically, sometimes 4, and 5 on very rare occasions

Axes / Tools:
level 0 - 24: 1 enchantment
evel 25 - 49: 1 typically, sometimes 2
level 50 - 74: 1-2 typically, sometimes 3
level 75 - 100: 1-3 typically

Bows:
level 0 - 24: 1 enchantment
evel 25 - 49: 1 typically, sometimes 2
level 50 - 74: 1-2 typically, sometimes 3
level 75 - 100: 1-3 typically, and 4 on rare occasions

Armor:
level 0 - 24: 1 enchantment
evel 25 - 49: 1 typically, sometimes 2
level 50 - 74: 1-2 typically, and 3 on rare occasions
level 75 - 100: 1-3 typically, and 4 on very rare occasions

Helmets also have a rare chance for an extra enchantment.


Unfortunately, the enchantment qualities are not totally up to date yet for Armor and Tools. The update was decided to be rolled before these were finished. These will follow in the next few days. In the mean time, the number of enchantments on armor and tools will be similar to vanilla.

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4. Access to Enchanted Gear

To keep the game balanced and interesting, enchanted weapons, armor, and tools are now much more accessible than normal. This is accomplished through three venues:

1. Mobs
Enchanted gear is now dropped on occasion by a variety of different mobs.

2. Enchanting Shrines
Not existent in the current map.

3. Higher Level Enchanting without Bookcases
For the time being, bookcases are not necessary to access higher leveled enchants. All you need is an enchanting table.

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5. How the New Enchantment Table Works

You can now have more enchantments and more possible enchantment combinations with a new enchanting model that can use up to 100 player levels for max enchants. Each level of a potential enchantment displayed in your enchanting table menu represents a cost of 2 player levels. In addition, enchanting is now based on your total player xp instead of just an arbitrary number of levels. Thus, you are not penalized for doing enchantments while being higher leveled.

Enchantment Cost Based on Item Type
You can now enchant lower quality gear at a reduced enchanting cost.

• Gold Gear and Bows require 1 - 100 levels for the enchantments
(enchantment values are still displayed as 1 - 30; every level in enchanting represents about 3 player levels in cost)

• Diamond Gear can be enchanted at 25% reduced cost
• Iron Gear can be enchanted at 50% reduced cost
• Leather, Wood, and Stone Gear can be enchanted at 75% reduced cost.

Due to a bug in Bukkit, the enchantment table can not be modified to use enchants higher than level 30. When placing an item in the enchanting table, please refer to the tool tips that pop up on the left to understand what level enchant is there and how many levels it will cost you to use on that item.


Enchantment Assignment
Enchantments on your items are assigned at random. However, unlike the vanilla where the enchantment is based on things like the enchantability of the item and so on, here, the higher the level of the enchant you are putting on, the more likely you are to have better enchants and the more likely you are to have multiple enchants.

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6. Enchantment Guide: Weapons


The level requirement for each enchantment represents the minimum level your enchantment needs to be possibly obtain the given enchant. The requirements are based on player level cost. If you want to try and get an enchantment with level req 80 for example, then you'll need to select an enchantment that is at least level 40 in your enchantment table. This of course does not mean that you will get that enchantment but it does mean that you at least have a chance to get that enchantment now. The higher the level the enchant you are doing, the more likely for your item to obtain multiple enchantments. It also varies the probability of getting each of the various enchantments.


Swords

Sharpness 1: +25% damage vs All, level req 15
Sharpness 2: 1 heart armor piercing + 40% damage vs All, level req 30
Sharpness 3: 1 1/2 hearts armor piercing + 60% damage vs All, level req 55
Sharpness 4: 2 hearts armor piercing + 90% damage vs All, level req 80
Sharpness 5: 3 hearts armor piercing + 135% damage vs All, level req 100

Smite 1: +50% damage vs Undead, level req 10
Smite 2: apply weakness: -8% damage, +100% damage vs Undead, level req 20
Smite 3: apply weakness II: -15 damage, +150% damage vs Undead, level req 35
Smite 4: apply weakness III: -25% damage, +225% damage vs Undead, requires level req 60
Smite 5: apply weakness IV: -40% damage, +350% damage vs Undead, requires level req 85

Bane 1: +50% damage vs Arthropods, level req 10
Bane 2: 8% chance to absorb health, +100% damage vs Arthropods, level req 15
Bane 3: 15% chance to absorb health, +150% damage vs Arthropods, level req 30
Bane 4: 25% chance to absorb health, +225% damage vs Arthropods, level req 50
Bane 5: 40% chance to absorb health, +350% damage vs Arthropods, level req 75

Knockback 1: Knockback 1, level req 15
Knockback 2: Knockback 2 + 1 heart bonus damage, level req 50

Fire Aspect 1: Adds 5 seconds of fire ticks, level req 25
Fire Aspect 2: Adds 10 seconds of fire ticks +1 heart bonus damage, level req 65

Looting 1: +10% rare loot drops, level req 25
Looting 2: +25% rare loot drops, level req 50
Looting 3: +50% rare loot drops, level req 100

Axes


Unbreaking 1: +20% durability, level req 20
Unbreaking 2: +40% durability, level req 50
Unbreaking 3: +80% durability, level req 80

Fortune 1: +20% drop chance, level req 25
Fortune 2: +35% drop chance, level req 50
Fortune 3: +60% drop chance, level req 100

Axes can also obtain the efficiency enchantment. However, this has no impact on combat use.

Bows


Power 1: +50% damage vs All, +1/2 heart armor piercing, 20
Power 2: +100% damage vs All, +1 heart armor piercing, level req 35
Power 3: +175% damage vs All, +2 hearts armor piercing, level req 50
Power 4: +250% damage vs All, +3 1/2 hearts armor piercing, level req 75
Power 5: +350% damage vs All, +5 hearts armor piercing, level req 100

Flame 1: Adds 8 seconds of fire ticks, level req 50

Punch 1: Knockback 1, level req 25
Punch 2: Knockback 2 + 1 heart bonus damage, level req 60

Infinity: unlimited arrows, level req 65

Armor Piercing
As it sounds, armor piercing damage will ignore all armor and armor enchantment reductions. An item with armor piercing of 3 hearts, will always deal 3 hearts when it hits the target on top of whatever the normal damage is from your weapon. To Mobs that do not have armor, the armor piercing damage just acts like a critical hit doing an extra 50% of whatever the armor piercing amount is.

Apply Weakness
Weakness reduces the target's damage for it's next 5 attacks. Apply Weakness IV for example will reduce the target your damage is able to do by 40%. This applies to All Mobs and Players and not just the Zombies, Skeletons, and Pig Zombies that are affected by the Smite damage bonus. Though less effective against a mob of targets, the Apply Weakness bonus can quickly turn a fight in your favor when fighting a target one on one.

Absorb Health
The Absorb Health bonus gives a chance to steal some of the target's health and heal you up to 10% of your maximum health. If your chance to absorb health hits, you will always gain 10% health up to your maximum total health. The target will in turn lose 1 heart of health that bypasses all armor.


Looting and Fortune
The Looting bonus applies to all rare loot drops including diamonds, gold, and enchanted gear.


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7. Enchantment Guide: Armor

As is with the other enchantable items, the level requirement shown for the armor enchantments is the minimum level your enchantment needs to be in terms of player levels in order to have a chance of obtaining the particular enchantment. Also as mentioned earlier, the damage reduction applied by the enchantment bonuses also reduces durability loss. The enchantment benefits from each armor piece stack together as a whole set to protect both your armor and your health. So for example, if all 4 of your armor pieces had Blast Protection 4, then you would receive 80% less damage and durability loss from explosions.


ARMOR

Protection 1: -5% damage vs all, level req 25
Protection 2: -8% damage vs all, level req 55
Protection 3: -11% damage vs all, level req 80
Protection 4: -15% damage vs all, level req 100

Fire Protection 1: -5% fire damage, level req 10
Fire Protection 2: -10% fire damage, level req 30
Fire Protection 3: -15% fire damage, level req 60
Fire Protection 4: -20% fire damage, level req 85

Feather Falling 1: -15% falling damage, level req 10
Feather Falling 2: -25% falling damage, level req 15
Feather Falling 3: -40% falling damage, level req 25
Feather Falling 4: -65% falling damage, level req 50

Blast Protection 1: -5% explosion damage, level req 10
Blast Protection 2: -10% explosion damage, level req 20
Blast Protection 3: -15% explosion damage, level req 50
Blast Protection 4: -20% explosion damage, level req 75

Projectile Projection 1: -5% arrow damage, level req 15
Projectile Projection 2: -10% arrow damage, level req 35
Projectile Projection 3: -15% arrow damage, level req 65
Projectile Projection 4: -20% arrow damage, level req 90

Respiration 1: Level 1 water breathing improvement and damage reduction from suffocation, level req 15
Respiration 2: Level 2 water breathing improvement and damage reduction from suffocation, level req 35
Respiration 3: Level 3 water breathing improvement and damage reduction from suffocation, level req 65

Aqua Affinity: Improves underwater mining efficiency, level req 65


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8. Enchantment Guide: Tools

As is with the other enchantable items, the level requirement shown for the armor enchantments is the minimum level your enchantment needs to be in terms of player levels in order to have a chance of obtaining the particular enchantment.


Tools


Efficiency 1: Default, level req 10
Efficiency 2: Default, level req 15
Efficiency 3: Default, level req 25
Efficiency 4: Default + 5% drops chance + 5% durability, level req 50
Efficiency 5: Default + 10% drops chance + 10% durability, level req 75

Silk Touch: Small chance of also collecting the ore sample, level req 65

Unbreaking 1: +20% durability, level req 20
Unbreaking 2: +40% durability, level req 50
Unbreaking 3: +80% durability, level req 80

Fortune 1: +20% drop chance, level req 25
Fortune 2: +35% drop chance, level req 50
Fortune 3: +60% drop chance, level req 100

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Updates:

• Bows now do significantly more damage, cost more xp to enchant, and now make you vulnerable to extra damage for a few seconds after use.

• The sharpness enchant now does more damage than previously.

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Updates:

Weapon Damages Improved:
This was to create more benefit to the variation between weapons.

wood sword: 2 hearts, 150 uses
wood axe: 2 1/2hearts, 100 uses
stone sword: 3 1/2 hearts, 250 uses
stone axe: 4 hearts, 150 uses
iron sword: 5 hearts, 450 uses
iron axe: 7 hearts, 300 uses
diamond sword: 8 hearts, 1100 uses
diamond axe: 11 hearts, 900 uses
gold sword: 12 1/2 hearts, 2100 uses
gold axe: 19 hearts, 600 uses
bow: 5 hearts, 800 uses

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New Features:

/stats
will show the current stats of your weapon including damage vs different mob types and durability (works for swords, axes, and bows)

When the command is used, you will see a message that says "Silverfish spawned". You can ignore that. It just so happens that I'm spawning a non-existent silverfish at your location in order to trigger the stats check on your weapon.

Damage stats are displayed in HP damage, also known as 1/2 hearts.


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Feature Updates:

• Ender Pearls are now consumable for XP
1. When you have an ender pearl in your inventory, type /enderxp
2. Ender Pearls give 4,000 XP

Keep in mind that the alternative use for Ender Pearls is combining them with a Blaze Rod to make an Eye of Ender which provides a handful of player benefits.

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I hope you enjoy the updated features!

Updated OP: 9/3/12 (Modified OP explanations, thanks to getpoopedonkid // Fixed Poll)
Updated OP: 3/8/12 (Fixed Poll)

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NOTICE (As of Snapshot 12w01a):



This is an screenshot of the beach gen that was re-added in Snapshot 12w01a. Please note that this is not representative of the new beaches in general, but instead an example of what the new generation can create!

Jeb appears to have simply changed the blocks which form the transition between land and the ocean biome from dirt to sand. This forms ugly clumps of sand hardly resembling beaches on hilly terrain. This DOES NOT resemble actual beaches or beaches as they once were in Beta 1.7.3! Or reality for that matter.

What should be done to correct this:

• Simply limit the max height of sand that can generate to two to three blocks above sea level, which would be identical to beach generation prior to Beta 1.8. With beaches essentially being their own biome, such a change should feasibly be easy since it shouldn't conflict with other biomes. If you believe otherwise, please state so and why!

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OP:

With the inclusion of the new terrain generation in recent releases, I've read about many major topics and comments having to do with terrible biome transitions involving the swamp biome and the such. However I have not seen any real topics concerning the exclusion of beaches and the issues concerning underwater bedding. So here is the point of this topic:

Summary:

1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and it needs to be restored.

This should be simple enough. Just add back beaches into the terrain generator. Also gravel beaches should be returned as well. More on that later in the topic.

2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.

The main argument against the current underwater bedding generation is that allows for easy access to large amounts of clay, and that clay was supposedly more rare in the previous generator. However, it was abundant, since the x=z clay generator bug that previously plagued the game was patched in 1.7.

However, to further address this issue, clay density and frequency can be increased to satisfy those who believe that more clay truly is necessary.[/indent]

The poor state of these aspects of the terrain generator has proven to be both an annoyance and an eyesore to me and the community as well. Beach gen prior to 1.8 paralleled realistic beaches and was more aesthetically pleasing in general. To further elaborate what I mean:

Beaches, prior 1.8

"Beaches" (along lakeside), 1.8 and later

Beaches, real life

As you can see, beaches do not actually generate in 1.8 and later, the "beaches" you see are actually not beaches at all; they are simply the outcroppings of the underwater sand bedding crossing onto the shore. This brings me to the next point: underwater bedding.

Underwater bedding (same pic as before, view the underwater portion), prior 1.8

Underwater bedding, 1.8 and later

Underwater bedding, comparison with 1.8 vs. 1.7, and real life (Borrowed from Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining)

As you can see, in 1.8 and later, underwater bedding consists of ugly patches of circular splotches, whether it be in a lake or an ocean. Previously, it was both aesthetically appealing and realistic. Clay would still be fairly abundant if the patch from 1.7 were also incorporated into clay generation. If that is not enough, we can simply have clay generated in the same manner as depicted in the picture below in higher frequencies or larger quantities:

Lastly, gravel beaches should be added back. It was a realistic feature of the old terrain generator and also broke up the monotony with the constant sand beaches. It is not a necessary feature to be re-added, though it would be nice.

Gravel Beaches, 1.7 and before

Gravel Beaches, real life

To reiterate:

1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and so, needs to be fixed.

2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.

With this said and done, I ask that these issues be addressed as soon as it is possible. If you can, please twitter or e-mail Jeb. This is technically not meant to be a petition or anything like the very popular Dear Mojang: The Swamps are Still Ugly topic, just a reminder to show that these issues must be addressed. However, you can show your support by twittering Jeb (+ link to here) or just acknowledging it here.

Tweet Jeb at: https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_

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Get Satisfaction Topic: http://www.getsatisf..._gravel_beaches

Also check out Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining topic for an in-depth look at issues concerning current terrain generation!

Try out a mod that adds beach generation back into the game! http://www.minecraft...0-biome-mod-v1/

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EDIT: This mod has been discontinued by the author. the author has given permission for someone else to continue it. This can be found here: TrapCraft v1.03






Welcome to trapcraft, a mod that adds useful new blocks that can be used in countless ways to make evil, malicious, deadly new traps easier and better ever! Currently this mod adds 5 new blocks that are each extremely versatile, and open up a whole new world of trap making possibilities. We have another block coming soon, as well as new additions to the current blocks, bug fixes, and more. You are welcome to suggest additions to this mod.

It now uses modloader! Yay!

Table of contents

1. Videos
2. New Blocks
1. Igniter
2. One-way Glass
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3. Download!
4. Change Log
5. Coming soon...

Videos
By Palmer125
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New Blocks
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Download
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Install instructions are inside. Please note that this needs modloader to work. You can find it here.

Change Log
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IMPORTANT: If you agree with the following, please reply to this thread to keep it alive, in addition to repping this post. Otherwise this thread will simply die.

First off, congratulations on the new AI system, it looks really interesting. However, I have one issue with it, as a mod developer who has worked on wolves for more than half a year now. It's just one issue:

The 1.2.3 animals in general, but especially the wolves, have had their personalities utterly eviscerated.

I mean, just have your 1.2.3 wolves sit, walk away from them, and watch them. They don't move. At all. Not one inch. Not even to look at things. Not even when there are other animals nearby. And then when you walk back up to them, they instantly all turn around to face you and stare at you incessantly.

...This is, I can't be polite about this, exceedingly creepy.

Normally I wouldn't complain about this, it's just that the old looking system has become utterly inaccessible without altering base classes, because somebody removed a "get" function that allowed extending classes to access the "current target" variable, which determines what a mob is looking at. If I were to edit the entityliving base class to fix this, I would likely conflict with many mods that could do much more with that base class, just to fix something that shouldn't have been broken to begin with.

My point is: most animals seem incapable of looking at anything that isn't your face, and this results in some rather disturbing behaviors in animals.

This problem, or at the very least, the removal of access to the variable we could use to fix it, should be fixed as soon as possible. I know it's aesthetic, but it's a SEVERE aesthetic issue that needs addressing.

+1 this post if you agree with the above, and please post your thoughts so this thread doesn't die.

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