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    posted a message on Server admins, how do you keep hosting servers ?
    Quote from haders

    To be honest, i'm a bit sick of my server, and i haven't even finished getting it ready to advertise yet. From the start i did it as a business model, cleverly planning out costs etc, and making sure i would be able to cover it until i could get donations. People giving you money dosen't make the server a "Money machine" as long as you aren't being ridiculous (I.E charging people 5$/month to play etc)


    well, to be honest, i know some tricks that can turn it into a money machine...

    if you do it "business style", target underage kids (<15), give them special "powers" for paying, make nice GFX for the packages, do promotion (discounts), etc etc

    i got arround $600 in the first month of opening the server. but then things started go out of control, the donators are overpowered and it blocks me from adding this and that. For example, quests, i have problem adding that because it will cause imbalance. Donators can fly and finish quest in 5 minutes.

    Well, at that time i still have the desire to host a server, and not thinking yet about "what i got back". So i revamped the donation system, no more overpowered donators, but less donations.

    I am really confused right now, i have like 100% lost my interest, but i still have the responsibility to host it.

    But, i'm not getting anything back and no one an blame me for resigning.

    Will selling the server to a trusted person be a good way ?
    Posted in: Server Support and Administration
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    posted a message on Minecraft API Discussion - Sat, 20:00 CEST, #minecraftdev on Esper
    Quote from King Korihor

    While not directly a part of the API itself, I do think it ought to get into the discussions about mods in general and how they apply to Minecraft.

    One thing I would love to see added is something like an app store where mod developers can showcase their wares in-game or through an official interface provided by Mojang. It could still be optional for mod developers, but it would allow players of Minecraft to pick and choose among the various mods. Developers could either release for "free" or charge for mods, depending on how popular they are or how much a developer wants to get their mod delivered.

    I don't mind if Mojang gets a cut of the action, so it would be a big win for them as well.

    This folds into the API discussion as it is only through a formal API system that such a store could really be developed. Downloading and automatically installing various mods can be made much easier with an official API (even though this could be done without an API).


    this will be epic
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    posted a message on Status of Minecraft Servers
    Quote from PandazNWafflez

    If you read my post, £ != $.



    Go. Away.

    Spout. Is. NOT. A. Minecraft. Software.

    Until people in this thread understand that, they can get lost.

    How can Spout have more blocks when it doesn't replicate Minecraft? It can't. The Vanilla plugin provides Minecraft functionality, but the whole point is that it's Vanilla so there are no extra blocks.

    I am now going to report any posts after this one that don't read the OP.

    And so Tekkit has more blocks than default Spout. Default Spout Client allows you to play what will be hundreds of games when it is done. All of which are customizable by plugins.

    Tekkit is also going to die with Bukkit, so nobody cares anyway.

    Furthermore, if anyone is here to troll, go off topic, or insult Spout / The API / Bukkit in a not constructive way, I will report them and request their post deleted.

    From now on, this thread is on topic.

    Discuss the OP. Stop being trolls.


    you are the one who should get warned and reported. basically you were calling every people that do not know what spout is "Retarded"

    all of this spout vs bukkit vs mojang vs minecraft vs api is just speculations for now. we do not have the rights to judge before we see the real product.

    spout is great, yeh.

    But in my opinion people who supported spout seems to be like arrogant. Spout has more features yes, but it doesent make bukkit a failure.

    I go on spout forums and bukkit forums and i can see spout fans, and a dev from spout throwing hate at bukkit.

    You can be vocal yes, but i do not think it is the right way.
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    posted a message on Status of Minecraft Servers
    Quote from PandazNWafflez

    -snip-


    wtf, your source is from a random member posting in team avo's forum about the release date without any facts backint it up ?

    that can not be a legit/trusted source.


    and why did you call him retarded ? Tekkit has more blocks right now then spout. I know spout can make unlimited blocks but it is currently have less blocks than tekkit.
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    posted a message on Status of Minecraft Servers
    Quote from PandazNWafflez

    Right. Lets correct some people:

    There are 2 members of the Bukkit team that aren't hired for Mojang. This is because they only joined the Bukkit team after they were hired. They are also the bleeding team.

    Anyone who thinks Spout will be more limited than Bukkit is retarded. Spout is designed to be limitless, and having read through it's code and made a couple of small contributions myself I can see that they are succeeding.

    This is not a Spout advert. I believe Spout is the best as:

    1) It will be the least limited.
    2) It's not dying (*Cough* Bukkit *Cough*).

    Yes, it's pretty much pointless to start a server now, because unless Mojang don't stick to their deadlines and release the API late, it will only be a few days before it comes out (1.3 is scheduled to come out between 21st and 29th June).

    Any anyone who prefers Bukkit to Spout is IMO stupid because Spout has a plugin (BukkitBridge) that allows Bukkit plugins to run on the Spout server anyway. I have made a few contributions to that as well, although honestly it still needs a LOT doing.

    By the way:

    I am in no way affiliated with the fine people at the Spout team. They are the wizards behind the Spout magic (pun intended *Cough* Afforess *Cough*). I have a Spout forums account and me have made some Pull Requests to Vanilla / BukkitBridge is all I can attest to.

    And Bukkit still *could* be maintained, because it's open source, but not by the current developers.

    As to developers who have put time into it. BukkitBridge. May I add that the Minecraft API will have no BukkitBridge, the Spout team have been kind enough to develop it for admins, and they should be grateful for that.


    where did you get these informations ?

    at this page http://www.minecraft...coming_features it says 2 things :

    1. The release date of 1.3 is unknown
    2. The modding api will be at 1.4 not 1.3

    Can you give me the link to the info you got ?


    Also, if you think that is stupid if people choose bukkit over spout, then you must be on the "Spout Side".

    The reason people choose bukkit over spout is :
    1. No custom client needed
    2. Plugins. Mostly large servers with tons of plugins that only compatible with bukkit.

    I don't see nothing wrong when people won't download custom client. It is very normal. Can't call them "Lazy" for that.

    And about the "BukkitBridge" i think you are overboasting it. It is not worth to be boasted yet until we really see the proofs of bukkit plugins running on that bridge.
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    posted a message on Plugin that disables mining with bare hands
    yes i am not a dev but i think this should be fairly easy to make...

    i never heard any plugin that does this :/
    Posted in: Server Support and Administration
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    posted a message on CraftBukkit++
    Quote from Mat_Zo

    You can say I was lazy. =]

    Truth is I didn't understand half of it, the computer language and stuff.


    You still alive ? Cheers Bros is my first ever multiplayer server xD

    Bring it back up, is aggresivedoughnut still arround ?

    Anyway, back on topic.

    Basically what craftbukkit++ done, is optimizing bukkit server. It uses mainly the growth and leave decaying system, correct me if i am wrong.

    You can see the http://forums.spout.org/threads/craftbukkit.938/

    Lastly, if cheers bros back up please do tell me :)
    Posted in: Server Support and Administration
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    posted a message on [Updated 1.2.5] Edencraft ✦Survival & Creative Server ▬ Friendly ▬ Greylist ▬ 24/7✦
    IGN (In Game Name):
    NichoMarpaunk

    Why do you want to become a Member on Edencraft?:
    I really enjoyed the server. And i wan't to build some creations on EdenCraft

    Real Age:
    16

    Do you Enjoy this server?:
    Yes, I DO, the community is so friendly and welcoming !

    Whats your favorite block in Minecraft?:
    Umm, lol this is an odd question, but i'm gonna say "sandstone" for this :/

    Tell us something about yourself:
    Well, 16 years old, normal teenager. I live in Indonesia, search near singapore and Malaysia at the world Map :P. I love minecraft and i currently own a pretty big server (no, don't worry it is for indonesians only, i won't be your competitor).

    I also love music and i love making noteblock creation in minecraft, for example you can see here

    Where did you hear about the server?:
    The Minecraft Forums :D


    Thank you !
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    posted a message on Slow the updates down.
    I want to keep this short :

    As we all know, minecraft currently updating like crazy. Frequent updates and it breaking world saves.


    I, as server owner suggesting that mojang slow the updates down. We can't even enjoy our map for 3 full months before another update comes out and brake it.

    Make it like, the 1.7.3 to 1.8 transition.

    Also, too much updates can be boring. For example, jungle and ocelots, was very interesting when 1.2 comes out. But now ? it is not interesting at all.

    If you slow down the updates it can also bring more "excitement" and people will remember that update for longer time.

    Thanks.

    /suggestion end
    Posted in: Suggestions
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    posted a message on Status of Minecraft Servers
    i see this as a spout adverisement
    Posted in: Server Support and Administration
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