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I am on 32-bit java, XP, 2G system RAM, older mobo but fairly new vid card. I get ~60 fps in 1.7.9. In 1.8 I get anywhere between 4 and 60 fps, but usually on the lower end. I've gotten my usual 60fps while standing completely still punching a tree. Moving at all seems to drop it to about 12-20. Going near an ocean temple dropped it as low as 4. Tired of people saying "LOL get new hardware" when I was just running at a nice 60 fps in the last update. This code is inexcusable and should not have been released.

Zontafer, is your server still up? Any anti-grief measures? I would like to check it out.

This could have been a good question if phrased properly.

How about "Do girls play Minecraft for different reasons?"

It's well-known that male and female brains behave differently. Pretending that females and males are the same is ludicrous and ignorant. Men excel at spatial orientation (so would be drawn to the 3D world of Minecraft) while women excel at social aspects, etc. While some girls do play Minecraft, there is still an obvious disparity in the gender ratio of the playerbase, and it's a valid topic.

My sister used to be into gaming. I bought her Minecraft and she only played it for 10 minutes. Subsequently I've tried to get her to play it and she never does. I tried to guide her on what to do on the first day, it was a bit of a slow experience (her Mac isn't quite fast enough) and I was tweaking game settings to try to get it to run faster. She managed to get a crafting table and pickaxe but it got dark, she ended up trapped in a hidey hole and didn't even want to wait out the night to do more stuff in the morning.

Bottom line, a bit of slowdown wouldn't have deterred me from playing Minecraft, and I found the initial difficulty challenging and fun. I played it like crazy the first few weeks.

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That's exactly the problem. The Optifine developers don't want Optifine to be part of the vanilla game, so jeb_ and Dinnerbone have to spend even more time on optimizations by improving performance themselves.

You're hilarious.

So some guys making a performance-enhancing mod for Minecraft are at fault because they don't hand their work over to Mojang. Apparently they hold special keys to optimizing Java code that is just somehow inaccessible to people at Mojang.

How about Mojang codes it properly in the first place? How about putting the responsibility of making Minecraft run correctly on the heads of the people making it and profiting off of it? Good god.

The state of Minecraft right now is inexcusable. These updates should have never been released. And I'm not just talking about 1.5. Basically all the updates in the past half-year have hacked away at the framerate, and it's like Mojang doesn't care at all. FPS has been slightly worse, slightly worse still, and now with 1.5 it's terribly worse. We shouldn't need quad-core and 8 gigs of RAM just to run a pixelated block world. And even then to run it poorly. Pitiful.

This update is freaking hilarious. Good job Mojang, learn to code please.

Framerate has been getting steadily worse. This is an official release and it's cutting peoples' framerates in half. Stop making excuses for Mojang, there's no excuse for THAT.

By the way it's lighting, not lightning.

And to the people who say "waaah it's a free update stop complaining" that's another cop-out. Minecraft wasn't free, I paid for it. When updates start to break the game, that hinders the gameplay that I paid for. And since almost all servers are going to be updating to the latest patch, "not updating" is not a reasonable option. Yeah, go try to find servers running specific old patches. Good luck. AFAIK you can't even get older patches of MC through official channels, Mojang doesn't host older versions or make it easy or viable to play them. Thus they're wrecking people's framerates and there are few options, and they have every right to complain. If I release a free update that wrecks the game you paid for, you should be complaining.

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Worth it? Your not paying anything for this update

You're paying FPS. At least.

Been playing this seed. I used buckets of lava to expand the island a bit ...





That villager is one of 4 villager zombies I led to the surface and cured. There's a zombie spawner at diamond level. When you have the means, get yourself down to y=11 and mine south along x=1154. You'll hit the zombie spawner as well as two veins of diamonds. With a straight shot back to the surface it's easy to get some villagers that way. Cure recipe is splash potion of weakness followed by right clicking on the villager with a normal golden apple.

(1154, 11, 120) Zombie Spawner
(1155, 11, 111) Diamonds (4?)
(1149, 17, 268) Skeleton Spawner
(1162, 19, 356) Cave Spider Spawner
(1105, 26, 280) Cave Spider Spawner
(1153, 12, 257) Diamonds (8!)

Also, the portal location here is awesome. Stuck me at the edge of an immense lava lake near an enormous nether fortress. Found 2 Nether Wart rooms right near each other and grabbed 1 blaze rod which was enough for the brewing stand.

There's an underwater hole with an abandoned mine at:


in case anyone wants to try to survive with that source of wood. I was immediately inundated with monsters though so good luck with that one.

People don't value gold (even though I like it) and the books don't include anything really amazing (like Fortune 3) so with 10 diamonds for all of those locations, this is definitely NOT the most loot ever. However, there DO seem to be a lot of cool locations within 1km of spawn, so this could potentially be the most locations ever?

Not trying to put down your haul or anything, just that I've seen up to 15 or 16 diamonds in just 2 locations, and if someone explored more on one of those to find dungeons, could probably come up with some books too.

I have created a script to control AMIDST in a linux X-Window environment to search for special seeds.

I originally developed it to look for Mushroom islands close to spawn, adn even found ones AT spawn.

however Minecraft seems to forbid setting spawn to be on a mushroom islands :-)

I since expanded it to look for (what I call) the 5 'rare' biomes all within 3 Km of 0,0 point.

The rare Biomes I look for are
Mushroom Biome
Ice Spikes (packed ice pinnacles)
Mesa Bryce (clay pinnacles)
Savannas Plateau Mountain (epic isolated moutains)
Mega Spruce Tiaga (with mossy boulders and podzol)

However finding all 5 biomes close to spawn is VERY RARE. Basically the new generator tried to ensure that hot biomes (savannah) is not close to cold biomes (ice). As such if you have on of these rare 'extremes', others will not be close. Mushroom island requires ocean too, and that wipes out more 'possibilities'.

I only find one with all 5 rare biomes, for every 20 I find with 4 rare biomes, and even those are rather rare in all the seeds it is examining.

Here is one example the script has found so far...
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Spawn in ocean on small island
Mushroom Island 2300 -1250
Ice Spikes -2300 -1150 2700 2100
Mesa Bryce -1300 1850
Mega Spruce Tiaga 1000 1000 1000 1700
Savannah Mountain -1550 900 -2100 1700 -200 1950

Swamp with witch hut on edge of the ocean) at 2192 16

NOTE I have NOT actually generated the world. So that witch hut may not actually exist! Or the savannah mountain may not have formed very well. The locations and results shown are all from AMIDST, but if you don't mind a small island start, it seems like a great seed.


I am thinking of expanding this to also search for other things...

For example
* 'medium sized' but isolated spawn island.
* witch huts close to spawn but with no 'mountain or hills; close by.

What do people think, and what things would you like me to search for in a seed?

if you generate the example world, tell me what you think of it.

Sapphires? Don't you mean diamonds?

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Surely you don't need that many comparators and light sensors. Just go get more quartz.

I am not a huge redstone engineer, but I would still like to get some quartz back. I'd be upset of you couldn't craft iron blocks or other storage blocks back into their raw forms.

I think I found the exact seed you're looking for. I came across it in the forums when looking for a village seed. The seed is "MINE DAT CRAP" without quotes. You spawn next to a ravine that's partially covered and has a lavafall and two waterfalls. The ravine is right in between a plains biome and a tudra biome. The tundra biome has a frozen river, some mountains, and a couple of trees. Right at the beginning of the plains biome is a village. Blacksmith has a ton of bread, some saplings, and 4 iron. There's also a church, two butchers, and two libraries. There's both potatoes and carrots in the farms. Everthing you want is literally right there at the spawn, you can see it all from the spawn point.

Have fun!

Ranting about people who rant about terrain huh? Nice, well i think.

They should give the anvil a small chance to spawn over a wolf when its chasing a chicken.

After 1.3 came out me and my friend wanted to check out the new villager trading system so we started a new super flat world. This is what i saw. I thought it looked amazing especially the dungeon, diamonds and abandoned mineshaft. I'm thinking about doing a survival world on top of the strip, which by the way is only about 15 blocks wide and doesn't go very far horizontally. One last thing I'm pretty sure this is a glitch because we tried using the seed and we got a normal super flat world. So i went in to the minecraft/bin and go the file and made copies. Has anyone else seen anything like this?

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I hope that was a joke, implying that over 21s shouldn't play games.

I HOPE it was! Next year I'll be twice that!

Personally, I think there are two main reasons that minecraft is particularly addictive:

First, the game rewards you in a much more tangible and creative way than traditional games. Usually, you work hard or grind in order to give your character better skills or skill points. In Minecraft, you work hard & grind in order to generate the necessary blocks to build anything you can think of! The payoff of seeing a completed structure of your own design is so much greater than seeing your character get +10 points of dexterity.

Second, and possibly more importantly, is that each minecraft world is unique to the player/players in that world. My home, greenhouse, terrain, spelunking experiences (etc) have not been experienced by ANYONE else. My minecraft world is an extension of myself, and I know every block of every structure like the back of my hand. We create, and hence "own" our minecraft worlds. That is infinitely more addictive than a spoon-fed linear story line.

Wanted to share my Star Trek inspired Minecraft creation that resulted in an appropriate (de)motivational poster.



It speaks to all of us who have spent a little too much time exploring, gathering resources or placing blocks while our significant others are patiently waiting for us to come to bed. My fiancée thought it was pretty funny..

For those unfamiliar, the giant statue in the background is a Horga'hn. In Star Trek lore, the Horga'hn is a fertility statue from the "pleasure planet" Risa. Displaying the Horga'hn announces that you are seeking Jamaharon.

I'll let you figure out what Jamaharon is.

If there's interest, I'll post some additional pics of the Horga'hn and the graph paper sketches that became my building schematics. Or maybe even a little video tour.

Hope you like it!