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    posted a message on new nethercraft
    This is in the wrong category. Some nice sort will move it to the category "Mod Requests. :)
    And the nether is survivable, It just takes a few supplies and a nice safe place to put them. You can grow tree's, crops(slowly), obtain a bit of gold and rotten flesh, spelunk, smelt a bit of ore etc etc

    This may be what you are looking for, but because you have little experience in the forums you didn't find it.
    http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1210367-125-modloader-ssp-v13-splitbolts-betternether-update-coming-soon/
    Have a nice day :D
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    Posted in: Mods Discussion
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    posted a message on Adding Non-player written books to add an Air of history and mystery
    When playing minecraft one thing I tend to dislike is the lack of history. The lack of things to make the player feel small, helpless and insignificant. Things that create a sense of amazement add great depth to any game. They make the player feel emotion. Yet minecraft lacks these things.

    My answer is to make it so that in chests in NPC villages, dungeons and most of all, stronghold libraries and jungle/ desert temples books can be found. Said books are part of a set and are designed so that it is difficult for the player to fully collect every single one. In fact, forget that; make it difficult for the player to obtain two. The contents of said books should be contain important details (about the civilasation that wrote them. A fairy tale involving a little girl wandering out of a stronghold and being eaten blown up by a big bad wolf creeper) and should feel like they have been either copied (if they came from an NPC village), faded (if they came from a stronghold) or one of both (If they came from spawners or temples). They should NEVER detail a civilisation or ORIGINS of ANYTHING.

    This is a very good Idea by Peppertyce (Who Number one supporter who I feel Guilty about not getting back to before he started something with some Air Force) Have the place of honor :P
    Quote from peppertyce

    When is miskatii getting back on. It would be really nice if they could see our suggestions and decide if they like them or not. I think if they are added you should be able to add other books by putting them in a file, the way we do for skins or texture packs. Have story packs that can be added in so that we will have more than just the few that Mojang would put in. We could have community writers that are as big as the modmakers or texturepack creators. Like the story written by Miskatii for example at http://www.minecraft...rom-the-nether/ (I, Miskatii am actually rather embarrassed by that long winding story)
    It's a rather good story, and I wouldn't mind finding it in minecraft. And that's just one person typing a story for fun. If this was added I'm sure other writers would be interested in writing stories for people to find.


    These books are more easter eggs than game changing but should add an interest amout of depth which i feel the game lacks.

    Possible books:
    - Unfair Chaos. This book is extremely rare and details a turbulent time (civil war) for the stronghold builders.
    - Morgans Travels. This book is one of the most common and details part of someone's (Morgan's) adventures in the nether. (Said traveler began famous and his works were widespread near the end of his cultre)
    - Castlemont. This book is medium rarity and tells of the construction of a castle (it details the politics and economics and technology of the time. )
    -Earthshaker. Details a war over a violent volcanic area. Medium high rarity
    - Beginnings. A millennia after a cataclysmic event the ruins of a once great civilisation venture out from their caves deep underground. (Is in journal form and is vauge. This means it is medium-low rarity)

    And so forth. As you can see the more important ones are rarer. I would estimate 40 different onces would nessessary to make them seem random. And while it may seem like a lot it's important to remember these would only be parts of books. I would say they should be about 10-20 pages long (and most should start half way through.)

    These books are more easter eggs than game changing but should add an interest amout of depth which I feel the game lacks.

    I may as well put my thoughts to what people have said. I might organize this better in the future

    Lore wasn't intended. Imagine 30 totally unrelated stories, broken into 30 fragments, with each being extremely rare. Oh and Sychocut, these are fragments of books.


    Gameguy602-Good Idea

    Quote from Gameguy602

    I still think librarians should sell prewritten books about how to brew, hint at how to get to the nether, etc. But this is good too.
    Great Idea. (peppertyce had the same (ish) Idea but I'll get to him later)


    Quote from Neospector

    I think the reason this does exist is because it adds too much story. You know, like the people who built the structures knew English, had a civil war, and knew how the universe began? Really? Plus, other languages would be a hassle; Minecraft is not limited to native English speakers, you know.
    If anything at all, pre-written books should be in scribbles (§ followed by the "K" key). As a result, there's an air of mystery, but it isn't any kind of actual story.

    Those three points you raised...
    Why wouldn't Steve's civilisation have have adopted their language from another civilisation who would have adopted a previous civilisation's language...
    Civil Wars are going to happen. There's one on right now, in Syria. Importantant event's will be remembered too...
    I expressively said that they should not reveal the origins of anything, least of all the universe
    "Too much story"-Let's make them vague and conflicting...

    Quote from deathguardian97

    The idea of Minecraft is that its a SANDBOX game. You make up your OWN story. If Minecraft were to add anything remotely resembling a story, it would be like those countless game characters who got a tragic backstory out of nowhere. It would ruin the charm and more.

    If you could somehow magically create mystery books without more than barely hinting at a story, great, but I just don't see how that's possible.

    Dwarf Fortress seems like a sandbox game to me and it has randomly generated stories. And back stories are (usually) important. These are vague, conflicting, but still interesting stories
    Quote from Black_Drath

    The only way I would support pre-written books appearing in chest etc. would be if they never detail historical events in Minecraft. Such things are up to the player to come up with themselves.
    Books should contain things like poems, minecraft themed folktales/fairytales, or very non-specific journal entries.
    What I mean by non-specific journal entries is that they could take place at any time period or to anyone, and don't record anything of interest. An example might be: "Today, I tripped over a stick and injured myself." or "When I reached the top of the hill, the sun was setting."
    That is the only way pre-written books should be added.

    But then that feeling of awe dies. They could refer to important events, but not describe them in detail. The more I think about that the more I like it. :) . It would be tricky managing detail though :/

    Quote from futuredeveloper

    People you know this is why they made adventure mode...So people can make maps and actually feel like your on an adventure. I'd think most people that make adventure maps would make sure to have some books look at deep turtle space chase by sparkles and others. They had freaking audio books.

    I have no idea what you are saying. Just talk about adventures in Adventure mode?
    Quote from Zoju

    It's a sandbox game. I think we should keep official lore to the minimum.

    Or just make it conflicting so people have NO Idea what to believe. That gets rid of both official and lore! (Buy Now and get a second one free!)

    Quote from JohnnyAwesome2

    Support and good idea for minecraft it just is depressing when your 1 of a kind in SP the game is severely handicapped by lack of interaction it feels like Virtual Reality but your a miner so really a type of game that makes you feel bad cus theres no human mob D:

    Good point!

    Quote from BlockArranger

    No to Minecraft "lore", yes to prewritten easter eggs.

    Do you Support?
    Any Idea's thoughts and constructive critiscisim welcome :D
    Posted in: Suggestions
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    posted a message on Adding Non-player written books to add an Air of history and mystery
    Thanks, though I was really inspired by Dwarf Fortress
    oh and distruct tat was one confusing read. Can you you full stops and the like next time? :)
    Thanks
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