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Jan 30, 2014Mike4592 posted a message on What would you do if you just woke up in a room and saw the above avatar naked?Did... did we? Oh God... I'm never drinking again.Posted in: Forum Games
Jan 28, 2014Support. I don't like the bomb logo on their back though. It clashes with the existing designs, imo.Posted in: Suggestions
I think they should do damage to blocks though. Anyone who doesn't like mob griefing can turn it off anyway. I'm sure they would blow up their own houses a lot, but creepers are fond of doing that anyway, until you get your village secured.
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I have seen more villagers jump to their deaths than I care to count lol. Suicide is a common sight in Minecraft, in all species.
Jan 28, 2014I should have said I support new tree variations like short and tall, but not different types of trees like Oak, Birch, etc. Oak trees drop apples, so what is and isn't sensible in Minecraft is just personal preference imo.Posted in: MCX360: Suggestions
Jan 28, 2014Support. Mainly so I can call future suggestions "the best thing since sliced bread!" =)Posted in: Suggestions
I would suggest the ability to make sandwiches using the bread slices. Steak makes a roast beef sandwich, pork chops make a ham sandwich, chicken makes chicken salad, and fish makes tuna salad.
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Aug 24, 2012Posted in: SuggestionsDinner Plate
The dinner plate is a proposed item, which can turn any Minecraft food into a block, like cake!
This crafting recipe makes a green-ware plate, which is just a clay formation of a plate. It looks like this:
To turn this into a plate, smelt it in a furnace.
You get a complete plate:
Thanks to cerealkiller for the plate pictures!
Once you have a plate, you can put any food on it by right clicking it. From there, you can eat the food at your own pace, so you don't waste any!
Here are some ideas that other users have suggested:
After finishing meat, a bone will pop out.
Placing food on plates can be a way to feed animals.
After a plate is used, it probably will get dirty. So wash it in a cauldron before using it again!
Eat with silverware like a civilized human! Maybe THAT could be made of iron!
By popular demand, bowls should be made placeable instead of plates.
Food on plates could be pushed by pistons, and output redstone comparator signals.
For smaller food items, multiple items should fit on one place, for example, cookies and carrots.
Plates are only stackable to 8! Otherwise the tower will topple over!
The amount of hunger food restores stays the same even when on a plate. So if something restores 3 bars, eating one bite will restore one bar and only 2/3 of the food will remain.
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Another idea in mind: If you have smaller food items, like cookies or carrots, you should be able to fit multiple of them on one plate!
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Feb 26, 2013Calacbolg posted a message on Cubic Chunks: Reduced lag, infinite height, and more [The #1 Suggestion Thread of all time!][Updated! 6/14]Posted in: SuggestionsThis system will not increase lag! The entire point of this system is to avoid the lag caused by higher height limits.
Table of Contents:
Changes in how things work
Data storageFrequently Asked Questions
Changes to world features
Coping with sunlight
Changes to servers
Render/Load distance alterations
[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod!
Supporting this suggestion
[spoiler=Tl:dr]Q: Won't this increase lag?
A: Absolutely not. The title of this suggestion and big red letters at the top of this post aren't lying. If you want to know how, then I suggest you actually read this post.
Q: Will this change terrain? Will this break existing worlds?
A: No. Terrain change is not necessary. Existing worlds can be converted fairly easily with a process described later in this post.
Q: How can sunlight or rain work with infinite vertical space?
A: I suggest you read Coping with sunlight, because it's too complex for a tl;dr.
Q: I have a different question but still don't feel like reading this post. What do I do?
A: Too bad, read the FAQ. I put way too much work into this for the entirety of it to be ignored.[/spoiler]
In Minecraft, the sky is the limit - literally. It doesn't matter how many thousands of blocks a player has traveled, or what dimension they're in, or even if they're playing in creative or survival, the highest they can ever build is up to a height of 256. Why is that? If Minecraft can have a world that's infinite in the north, in the south, in the east, and in the west, why can't that world be infinite up and down too?
In Minecraft's earliest days, in Classic and Indev, the world was not infinite in any direction. This was because the entire world needed to be generated at the same time, and the entire world needed to be simulated at the same time as well. This led to a conundrum - the bigger the world, the more it lagged.
Notch didn't like this. He knew his players liked to explore and build large creations, so he found a way to make the world truly infinite. When the Minecraft '' class='bbc'>Infdev came out, it brought with it truly infinite worlds. Suddenly, players could travel hundreds of thousands of blocks in any direction, and never encounter a barrier, or become too laggy.
The Infdev update brought about a very large change to Minecraft worlds to accomplish this feat. For the first time, instead every world being just a single huge piece, they were broken up into a two-dimensional grid of pieces, called chunks. Through breaking the world up into pieces, this 'chunk system' enabled infinite worlds by letting Minecraft create new pieces and simulate them only when it needs to.
Why does that not apply to the vertical axis? Because the type of 'chunk system' Minecraft uses right now is a linear one, which, by using only a two-dimensional grid to map out chunks, means that it is impossible for chunks to stack on top of one another, and by extension, meaning that a single chunk must cover the entire vertical space. This brings back the problem that the Infdev update was supposed to eradicate, now only with chunks, instead of an entire world; the bigger a chunk is, the more laggy it is. You can't just increase the height limit and make chunks taller, because it will become laggier, and laggier, and laggier to do it.
That's why, to fix this, Minecraft must change over to a cubic chunk system. Under this system, 163 block chunks are aligned on a three-dimensional grid, completely eliminating maximum height as an aspect of lag.
The immediate benefits:
•Minecraft worlds become as virtually infinite vertically as they are horizontally: The absolute limit being Y = ±30,000,000.
•A large FPS increase: Alpha testers report an FPS increase of 100~200%.
•Increase in running capability: Computers running Minecraft on Tiny render distance will handle only 30% the blocks they do now.
The possible features:
•Spherical render/load distance: Reduce handled blocks by up to 30% by cutting corners made of unneeded chunks.
•Server chunk occlusion/exclusion: Reduce bandwidth usage and defeat hackers by only sending data for visible chunks.
•Three-dimensional biomes: Save biome data per chunk rather than per block column, create volcanoes with magma chambers, underground rivers, tropical skylands floating over icy taigas, and more.
•Unloaded gravity-pause: Falling non-player entities and fluids will be forced to pause their fall if they reach unloaded chunks, but will resume falling when those chunks are loaded.
•Slow falling-pause: Players with slower computers and smaller render distances will have falling occasionally paused as they fall into unloaded chunks, until new chunks can be loaded.
•Current sunlight and rain calculation methods cannot work with infinite vertical space: The solution to this is described here.
•Current BiomeDecorator cannot work with multiple vertical chunks simultaneously: The BiomeDecorator code must be altered to function correctly with this, or removed.
•Current cave generation method is executed an extra time for each vertical chunk created simultaneously, leading to lag spikes on world generation: Cave generation's method must be altered to suit this system more.
•Current grass/dirt generation algorithm forces additional chunk requests when chunks are loaded, causing chunks to load slower than they should: This algorithm must be replaced with something else.
Changes in how things work:
Obviously, the implementation of this new chunk system will change quite a few things. These changes are mostly either necessary or in the interest of increased efficiency. Such changes are categorized and explained below.
How worlds will be stored:
[spoiler]How the current storage works, and what changes:
Interestingly enough, the current method of storage, the Anvil format, is derived from the storage method that the original Cubic Chunks mod used. The Anvil format stores individual chunk as a series of 163 quasi-cubic chunks. These 'fake' cubic chunks allow for easier reference of specific data, but they still can't be separated from each other, meaning that it fails to reap the full benefits of this system. Even so, the change allowed Mojang to double the maximum height with no performance hit. Chunks are stored in groups of 322, inside 'MCRegion' files, for a total of 1024 chunks.
By nature, cubic chunks does away with the 'quasi-cubic' nonsense. In terms of chunk grouping, instead of using groups of 323 chunks, new "3DRegion" files would contain groups of 163. This means each 3DRegion file contains 4096 chunks, four times as many as MCRegion files. However, each 3DRegion contains only one fourth the amount of blocks. For per-chunk positional metadata, 3DRegion files would use the same number of bits as MCRegion files, after compression. Calculations show that the same area encompassed by a single MCRegion file would consume 64 kilobytes of extra space with 4 3DRegion files, which is nothing.
Converting existing worlds:
Most people are probably wondering something like "But won't this totally destroy all existing worlds?". Absolutely not; conversion could not be simpler. When a non-cubic world is loaded after the implementation of this system, a conversion process will begin and convert the entire world at once(To avoid making chunk loading take longer during play). First, all existing MCRegion files will be divided into quarters to create 3DRegion files. Then, all existing chunks are divided into sixteenths using the quasi-cubic properties to identify boundaries. After that, conversion is done.
The "isEmpty" flag optimization:
A 1-bit flag is added to each chunk, named "isEmpty". If the chunk consists of 100% air blocks, this bit is 1, any other case makes it 0. When the bit is 1, all data for the chunk besides the isEmpty flag is deleted and ignored, which reduces filesize. Empty chunks are never loaded, and locations where they occur are merely simulated as entities reside in them. The chunk will only load when something requires saving inside it.[/spoiler]
Changes to terrain, ores, etcetera:
By default, nothing will change. Small bits of terrain generation code need to be reconfigured to work properly with Cubic Chunks.
By default, nothing will change.
By default, nothing will change.
By default, nothing will change.
After conversion to Cubic Chunks, the void and bedrock layer will still exist and generate as they always have. However, the void(Not the bedrock layer!) will not exist as a hard limit and is able to be moved, but not removed, by editing an associated NBT data tag inside a world's level.dat. This feature, that allows for increasing the maximum depth, is intentionally disabled without external programs, to prevent terrain change of any sort. It is intended to be used by experienced mapmakers and world generation mods only.
Existing superflat worlds will not change. However, new superflat worlds will gain a new decoration parameter, 'void'. Inclusion of this parameter will cause the void to form below the lowest defined layer. Exclusion of it will cause all layers below the lowest defined layer to copy the settings of that layer.[/spoiler]
Coping with sunlight:
[spoiler]There used to be a solution here, but it wasn't deemed good enough by Jeb. Suggest solutions in this thread.[/spoiler]
Changes to servers:
There's a setting inside the Server.properties file called 'max-build-height'. The setting makes it impossible for any player to place or remove blocks above that height.
With the implementation of Cubic Chunks, a new setting named "maximum-generation-depth" would be added. The void, bedrock layers, and magma layers will generate normally at and above the Y level designated by the value of this setting.
Using the raytracing methods already available in the code and used for explosion calculations, servers can identify which chunks are visible to a player, within safe assumptions, and only send the data for those chunks. This both reduces bandwidth usage, and cripples the usefulness of X-Ray cheats.[/spoiler]
Render/Load distance alterations:
[spoiler]After the implementation of Cubic Chunks, view distances' radii will apply to the vertical axis too. This reduces handled blocks in the cases of tiny and short render distances, and increases them in the cases of normal and far render distances. This can be optimized by utilizing a spherical render distance instead of a cubic one, which would reduce handled blocks in all distances except Far.[/spoiler]
Frequently Asked Questions:
[spoiler=FAQ]Q: This is impossible.
A: No it's not. See below.
Q: Is this available as a mod?
A: Not yet! But it will be!
Q: I like X-ray! What if I don't want it to be broken?
A: First of all, breaking X-ray hacks will only be possible to do in multiplayer. That said, the system that would break X-ray would be possible to disable by the server owner. If the owner doesn't disable the system, then they don't want you using X-ray, and you should not be doing what the server owner doesn't want in the first place.
Q: I play on a PvP/Anarchy/Raid/Faction server. Won't this system let people pillar up into the sky and create a base thousands of blocks in the air and never be found?
Q: I like Minecraft's current height limits. What if I don't want to have an infinite sky or infinite underground?
A: If this system is added, all worlds will not automatically gain an infinite underground. As stated below, the Void will remain in all worlds, even after the conversion to Cubic Chunks. The ability to remove the Void will simply be there. As for infinite space in the sky, the current build limit is over one hundred blocks above any terrain that vanilla Minecraft can possibly generate. It is ENTIRELY your decision on whether or not you take advantage of this height. If you play on a server, like stated above, the server owner can set a maximum build height. If s/he doesn't, then don't play on their server - you don't play on servers where the server owners allow things you don't like. Why would you play on an anarchy server if you hate being stolen from and killed?
Q: Will this affect Redstone at all?
A: No. This system will simply make it possible to make larger redstone circuitry than before.
Q: Won't this break existing worlds?
A: No. Existing worlds can be easily converted by dividing each MCRegion file into 4 pieces, then slicing the existing 256 block-high chunks inside them into 16 individual chunks.
Q: Won't this affect mods? Won't mod authors have a hard time updating their mods?
A: The answer to this question depends solely on the answer to the following two questions: Do parts of the modification code rely on chunk data/metadata? Does the mod author want to take advantage of the features of the new chunk system? If the answers to the first and second question are both "No", then updating a mod to this system should be very easy and quick. If the answer to the first question is "Yes", then those parts of the code will need to be rewritten somewhat, but in most cases, the changes should be fairly quick and easy. The only time that it should be hard to update a mod to this system, is if the answer to the second question is "Yes".
Q: Won't this require a total rewrite of the mod API if that's released first?
A: No. Whether or not even a small part of the mod API needs to be rewritten depends on the way that it is implemented and whether or not there are API inclusions for chunk handling and other chunk-related behavior.
Q: Could a player fall into unloaded chunks if chunks aren't loaded fast enough?
A: No, they could not, and for several reasons. Minecraft has a terminal velocity, though it might not seem like it. This velocity is slower than it should take to load new chunks below the player. In cases with exceptionally slow computers, even if the player did manage to reach an unloaded chunk, their fall would be paused until that chunk can be loaded.
Q: What would happen when water, sand, or a mob falls into an unloaded chunk?
A: Nothing. The water/sand/mob would freeze in place until the chunk is loaded and it can continue moving. You can already see this same thing happening on the horizontal axis.
Q: What will happen to the Void?
A: It will still exist, along with all its effects. The only difference is that the Void is no longer a hard limit and it can be moved. After the conversion to Cubic Chunks, the Void's location will be stored in a world's ' class='bbc'>level.dat, and this location can be changed with NBT editing tools. When and where the Void exists, chunks will cease to generate.
Q: Will this affect terrain?
A: No. However, terrain generators will gain the ability to use infinite height.
Q: Will this affect ore generation?
A: No. Ore is a part of terrain generation. As stated above, terrain will not be changed.
Q: Won't all current terrain generators be incompatible with this system and need to be rewritten?
A: No. Terrain generators work independently of chunks. When a chunk is generated for the first time, it calls the terrain generator and receives a specific section of the resultant terrain to save inside itself. Because of this, some custom terrain generators can generate steep terrain all the way to Y256, where you can experience a large, flat cut-off. Since there are no chunks above Y256 to call the terrain generator for terrain, no terrain exists there.
Q: What would happen if there's a huge solid ceiling so far above you that it is unloaded? Wouldn't you just see the sky, just with everything being completely dark?
A: Yes. This already happens on the horizontal axis, and it is an issue with sky rendering, not this chunk system. As such, this has nothing to do with this suggestion. Please do not post about this.
Q: If you go deep underground, will your plants grow/ores smelt/animals grow?
A: No, because those chunks would be unloaded, just as if you had walked far away. This is a flaw with any chunk system, regardless of shape. It is a necessary evil that allows Minecraft to have infinite worlds. The only way to fix this would be to introduce a separate new system that works with chunks as they are loaded and unloaded. This suggestion deals with the chunk system itself, and not sister processes. Because of that, that is outside of the scope of this suggestion. Please do not post about this.[/spoiler]
[WIP] The Cubic Chunks Mod! (Tall Worlds Mod):
Cuchaz has taken it upon himself to bring us the glorious Cubic Chunks, since Mojang refuses to do so.
Cuchaz is using a API of his own creation to help assist in the making of this mod, and he's quite far along, as seen in these two tech demo videos:
[spoiler=T-Demo 1: Vertical chunk loading][/spoiler]
[spoiler=T-Demo 2: Broken height cap and no lag!][/spoiler]
With the basic functionality in place - a complete overhaul of the basic chunk system, and height limit removed - this whole concept can already be considered proven. What remains is making sure everything else functions correctly under the new chunk system. In any case, stay tuned for future updates if it interests you(If it doesn't, then you are the weakest link - goodbye!).
You can follow the mod's development in much more depth in its very own topic!
[spoiler=A mountainside with an experimental engine using Cubic Chunks designed by Nocte. 960 block view radius, and 30 FPS.][/spoiler]
[spoiler=A different view of the mountainside with the same engine by Nocte. This time, with 1600 block view radius and 15 FPS.][/spoiler]
[spoiler="A video demonstrating Nocte's engine."]
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If you wish, you can put the following banner, courtesy of laz2727, into your signature. It helps to attract support from all parts of the forum!
Please help us get word out of this suggestion! Share this with your friends, with Minecraft celebrities if you're familiar with them, or even with Mojangsters like Jeb or Dinnerbone! (Do not share this with Notch. Notch doesn't work with Minecraft anymore.)
The purpose of this suggestion is to have Cubic Chunks implemented in Vanilla. Being available as a modification does not fulfill that purpose. The modification featured in this suggestion is to act as a proof-of-concept only(Note: Its being featured here is to act as a proof-of-concept. The modification itself is on its way to becoming a fully fledged modification).
Cuchaz, for taking Barteks' proof and running with it, to give us a truly functional Cubic Chunks mod.
Barteks2x, for updating the Cubic Chunks mod to 1.6.2, proving that it is possible.
Azraile, for posting the original suggestion and allowing me to take ownership of it.
Nocte, for helping resolve flaws and designing Hexahedra.
MineCrak, for a large amount of valuable insight and enthusiasm into the topic of Cubic Chunks.
aaronfranke, for helping resolve flaws.
PanJouda, for creating the original banner.
Flexico, for creating the predecessor to the current banner.
laz2727, for creating the current banner.
Robinton, for creating the original Cubic Chunks mod.
The_Watchman13, for answering all those stupid questions so I don't have to.
Note: Many calculations and information can be found among the many posts of this topic. There are too many for me to cite here, but if you wish, you can search for them yourself.
Oct 12, 2013BlackAbsence posted a message on New Village Structures, with Pics (Updated once again!)The Flower Shop (Version 2):Posted in: Suggestions
since 1.7 added so much flowers I decided to create a flower shop for villages.
The garden part only displays the two block high flowers.
Inside there is a chest, this chest only contains flowers (It can contain any type of flower/flowers) and bone meal.
since you guys have been wanting the green villager so much; here he is, and yes you can triad with him for flowers.
Normal Flower Shop Exterior:
(Optional) Desert Flower Shop Exterior:
Normal Flower Shop Interior:
(Optional) Desert Flower Shop Interior:
-added the green villager.
-made structure bigger
-made it villager accessible by substituting the gate with a door.
-add desert flower shop variant as an option (decide in the pool if you think its fitting)
-added bone meal as a possible loot to chest.
The Barn (Version 2):
Currently villagers only harvest crops and since their humans I figured they could use some meat to their diet, which is why I'm suggesting barns.
here you can find: pigs, sheep, cows, chicken, or horses, (2 per pen max). There is 4 pens, so a todal of 8 animals can be found here
Inside their is 3 hay barrels and a chest possibly containing: leads, meat, carrots, wheat, seeds, saddles, potatoes, and general barn equipment, like an iron hoe.
so here I was building this barn an thought; for the sake of being iconic, why not make it red! and so I've taken the time to craft one up using some acacia wood (which looks red to me...). please vote on the poll to tell which one you prefer!
Normal Barn Exterior:
Red Barn Exterior:
Desert Barn Exterior:
Normal Barn Interior:
Red Barn Interior:
Desert Barn Interior:
-added hay barrels
-added sheep, chicken, and horses as possible spawns.
-added chest (contents explained above).
-added an option for the Red Barn made with acacia wood as a possible substitute (you decide which on which one is better!)
-added desert barn variant.
The Harbour spawns when a body of water connects with a gravel path.
The harbour is usually where the fishermen hang out, and even spawn there when the structure is generated. here you may find a chest which contains boats, and anything that can be caught with a fishing rod except enchanted stuff. there will also be 1 - 2 boats docked off to the side of the dock.
(I also had the idea that fishermen villagers could actually fish here, but that suggestion may be found here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2337212-fishermen-villagers-actually-fishing/ )
The basement is a structure that sometimes connects underneath this pre-existing structure:
There is a 50% chance of it generating with a basement.
Pretty much a cubic cobblestone room with an air space of 3x3x3.
Sometimes mushrooms will grow in here.
There is nothing really special about this other then the fact that is underground, but sometimes it's the little things that count.
-added cauldron (where villagers could wash their cloths, hypothetically speaking).
-raised the torch up a block.
If you like, please click that green arrow.
if you dislike, please comment why.
Also, feel free to suggest any other village structures / post pics of em.
Jan 29, 2014nametooshort posted a message on What would you do if you just woke up in a room and saw the above avatar naked?Posted in: Forum Games
Put your clothes back on, sug.
But I'm having the time of my life, Nancy!
Jan 29, 2014Preface: I did some searching, didn't see this topic. And I know there's the Easy Crafting mod that doesn't work on the newest version of the PC game. So I think this suggestion is mostly new but I'm probably wrong.Posted in: Suggestions
I'm a convert from the MC360 version of the game and I've got my rig setup to use my controller instead of mouse. Call it a personal preference. I like it and it works really well for me.
I much prefer the menu-driven crafting of the 360 to having to memorize recipes, and drag and drop blocks in the right spots to make things that the PC version which is harder to do with a controller (and the likely reason 4J changed it in the 360 version)
I would like to see a future version of MC where enabling such crafting is an option (not a requirment, as I understand many people like the current crafting just fine).
Here's my reasoning:
the current crafting makes the game harder in a way that isn't necessarily more fun. It's just more clicks and movement to craft stairs than it has to be. As a software developer, I catch flak if I make the user do more clicks than a process really has to have.
It forces a game play element that only has value the first time. I get that when MC first came out, it was a total mystery what you could build, and the discovery was part of that fun. Since them, MC has earned the reputation of being the game you play with the Wiki loaded. Nobody's discovering anything, they just look it up online and then fumble their way through the interface.
Now I get that there's a zillion players who are clicking just fine through the crafting interface. But rote familiarity doesn't justify keeping an interface that's harder to use. it just means they've had a lot of practice that speeds up the task of crafting blocks before they can get to the fun part of using them to build stuff.
I simply want the option to cut that part out of the gameplay experience, as it makes the game harder to play. I use an ergonomic trackball for a mouse (hand problems), so switching to a mouse isn't going to make it any more fun or easier to drop little boxes into a 3x3 grid. If nothing else, it's an Accessibility request for the mouse-alogically challenged.
I realize this idea isn't useful to everyone, but I think it'd be useful for a decent sized chunk of the community.
Jan 28, 2014Posted in: Suggestions
Support. I have suspicions that Mojang may be working toward this anyway.
I second the fletchers supporting the Golems with bows. It differs from village warriors, in that Iron Golems can't attack from a distance.
It would be cool if the miners gathered coal and iron, then gave them to the blacksmith to make into ingots. He could then make iron blocks, and stack them into the "T" shape of the Iron Golem's body. I'm not saying to change the Iron Golem's current spawning mechanics, just to create the illusion that the villagers are actually making the Golems that spawn.
Maybe some of the villagers could gather wood too, and use the miner's coal to make torches. That way they could light up their area, to help protect themselves a bit more without making them warriors.
most of your ideas are already in this (two great minds think alike :)) and i guess if enough people support the fletchers i could add them and i agree about mojang. The reason i thought of this seriously was when they implemented the new villager ai in the new snapshot. I think theres 3 or 4 supporters now.
Jan 28, 2014The_Actual_Kid posted a message on What are some unexplainable things you have experienced in vanilla minecraft?Posted in: Discussion
I found a small cave with a villager in it while mining once. No way in, and no way out. Turned out there was a village above it, but I couldn't figure out how he got in there.
No, I didn't free him. >=)
No, I didn't free him. >=)
Jan 27, 2014All you have to do is silk touch some vines and place them on your trees in the swamp (or jungle). They will then grow to hang down the way the original ones do. However, I like willows and wouldn't mind willows as another variety of tree in the game.Posted in: MCX360: Suggestions
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