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    posted a message on How many guns do you have?
    Quote from Numbars

    It really depends though, because every case is different, plus the "21 foot rule" only applies to an officer (some quick research, so I may not be correct). As for the assault bit, I couldn't think of anything else than assault so I just put that.


    Since most assaults are not random the 21 foot rule can be applied in a civilian scenario: Example: Some one cheated, there's a friend of one party who is carrying, he distances himself so that if the use of force/deadly force can be applied effectively.
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    posted a message on How many guns do you have?
    Quote from Numbars

    Not so much, by the time you got your gun you would already be shot, stabbed, or beaten; if you had the gun drawn before you were sure they would attack then it's assault, so a gun's not gonna help you there.


    Which is why you follow the 21 foot rule. (If there's a possible threat)

    This is also not quite correct at least for where I am, if there was an apparent threat and you drew preemptively, and you where legally carrying, it would be a use of force, which is legal.

    Edit: It should be noted that citizen FoF is super ****ing rare.
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    posted a message on How many guns do you have?
    Quote from met306

    I have got ZERO due to the fact that guns will ever really come in handy for self defense and that fists are a much better way, because they WONT KILL SOMEBODY.


    Actually, fists are the least effective way, batons are considered the most effective next to a firearm. Granted, it should be used as a last resort or within reason. Also, fists CAN in fact kill someone, it would be ignorant to think otherwise.
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from Enquent

    Not everywhere and majority are two things that just can't get along.

    Many(not all, not most) women abuse the ever loving sodomizing **** out of our legal system, I have seen it happen to my friends, my family. This fact does not change whether it be over a child or justified use of force. I don't care what state you are in, in court women seem to be given favor despite what the written legislature says.


    Yes, but this is Texas we are talking about: The state that has executed more people [inmates] than any other (Except Virginia apparently. (Overall)) state, including women.
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from Enquent

    Who the hell cares? If you know it is, woopy hoopty doo dah for you. This is the off topic section, this is off topic, it's a debate and discussion starter. All qualifications have been met.

    On topic: Unfortunately by today's standards it was not justified. An attempted burglar can sue you if he falls through your roof and injures himself. There is something considerably wrong with our politically correct society that some days I wonder how hard it would be to disappear into the forest.

    Morally, they were in the right. I would have pursued negotiation a bit longer but if it came to it, a good sucker punch would have been in order.


    Did you not read my above post? It's not like that everywhere.
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    posted a message on no need help no more
    Quote from Minecraftguy105

    I'm not 100% sure, but I'm quite certain that burners read too.
    The burner would do, and the drive is if you don't need to burn disks?


    I am sure any CD/DVD "Drive" you get today will be both read and write.
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from TerribleSphinx

    Solution 1: Don't go to a party with a bunch of petty theiving drug addicts.
    Solution 2: Accept the punishment and deal with your wrong doing.


    My best bud is 13 and he acts nothing like some of the 13 year olds ive seen.


    Except he really didn't do anything wrong.

    At least by Texas standards.

    Relevant definitions:


    "Assault is committed if a person intentionally, knowingly or recklessly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, causes bodily injury to another, or causes physical contact with another when he knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative."

    "Burglary is committed if, without the effective consent of the owner, a person: 1) Enters a building, or any portion of a bulding, not open to the public with intent to commit a felony or theft, or 2) Remains concealed in a building with the intent to commit a felony or theft."

    "Criminal Mischief is committed if, without the effective consent of the owner, a person: 1) Intentionally or knowingly damages or destroys the property of the owner, or 2) Tampers with the property of the owner and causes momentary loss or sustained inconvenience to the owner or third person."


    Source: http://www.self-defender.net/law3.htm



    § 9.31. SELF-DEFENSE. (a) Except as provided in
    Subsection ( B) , a person is justified in using force against
    another when and to the degree he reasonably believes the force is
    immediately necessary to protect himself against the other's use or
    attempted use of unlawful force.
    ( B) The use of force against another is not justified:
    (1) in response to verbal provocation alone;
    (2) to resist an arrest or search that the actor knows
    is being made by a peace officer, or by a person acting in a peace
    officer's presence and at his direction, even though the arrest or
    search is unlawful, unless the resistance is justified under
    Subsection ©;
    (3) if the actor consented to the exact force used or
    attempted by the other;
    (4) if the actor provoked the other's use or attempted
    use of unlawful force, unless:
    (A) the actor abandons the encounter, or clearly
    communicates to the other his intent to do so reasonably believing
    he cannot safely abandon the encounter; and
    ( B) the other nevertheless continues or attempts
    to use unlawful force against the actor; or
    (5) if the actor sought an explanation from or
    discussion with the other person concerning the actor's differences
    with the other person while the actor was:
    (A) carrying a weapon in violation of Section
    46.02; or
    ( B) possessing or transporting a weapon in
    violation of Section 46.05.
    © The use of force to resist an arrest or search is
    justified:
    (1) if, before the actor offers any resistance, the
    peace officer (or person acting at his direction) uses or attempts
    to use greater force than necessary to make the arrest or search;
    and
    (2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably
    believes the force is immediately necessary to protect himself
    against the peace officer's (or other person's) use or attempted use
    of greater force than necessary.
    (d) The use of deadly force is not justified under this
    subchapter except as provided in Sections 9.32, 9.33, and 9.34.

    Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, § 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974.
    Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, § 1.01, eff. Sept. 1,
    1994; Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 190, § 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995.



    Text file of the old law I had on hand.

    Another link to a revised version that was to take effect in 2007:
    http://www.capitol.s...df/SB00378F.pdf

    Edit: The revision was the addition of a no retreat clause. (Not sure if it's the right word?) So you would not have needed to retreaded before using force, you could just escalate to force if you thought it was necessary.

    Where I found it:
    http://usgovinfo.abo...defense-law.htm

    Anyway, by the new law he, I believe, had the right to actually use deadly force.

    For use of force:



    (a)Except as provided in Subsection ( B) , a person is
    justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
    actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary
    to protect the actor against the other ’s use or attempted
    use of unlawful force. The actor ’s belief that the force was
    immediately necessary as described by this subsection is presumed
    to be reasonable if the actor:


    ©was committing or attempting to commit
    aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
    assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery;
    [/code]


    For deadly force.



    (a)A person is justified in using deadly force against another:
    (1)if the actor would be justified in using force
    against the other under Section 9.31; and
    (2)if a reasonable person in the actor ’s situation
    would not have retreated; and when and to the degree the actor reasonably
    believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:


    (B)to prevent the other ’s imminent commission of
    aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual
    assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.



    ****ing smilies...
    Bleh, code tag. >.>
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    posted a message on MCFCST IRC channel ?
    Now I just need to catch up to you, I have been inactive for a bit.
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    posted a message on MCFCST IRC channel ?
    I feel so young in terms of this forum, I only have like 1,100 posts. lol.

    Anyway, I think an IRC channel would be good.
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    posted a message on Nostalgia?
    Quote from fm87

    -snip-

    (Thanks, forgot to snip it.)


    I am 16 and all this fills me with nostalgia, what is wrong with me...
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from Petra Soft

    I have 10 years of jujutsu, I would have no problem handling him.


    As someone who has wrestled and has had other martial arts training, skill and experience only matters to a point... If someone has a fair amount of weight on you and manages to throw you they can just move to side control and go chest to chest and you won't be able to get up.
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from Homem Pigman

    She spat on him and threatened to "kick his ass". I still facepalmed at him being sent to court.


    Also, I had to laugh at this, as an athletic teenager I am often stronger than most adult females. So if this is college age, where there is some of the largest differences in strength between the genders, it seems kinda stupid to threaten the guy...

    Also note: I am not saying there isn't super strong females out there or females can't be as strong as males but most of the time there is discrepancy between female and male strength.
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    posted a message on Cannot see in 3D, how much am I missing out?
    Quote from StalePhish

    More like 2.7%.

    I think just about everyone is missing a significant chunk of what's going on here. This doesn't only effect 3D movies! This effects everything in his life. This means that if you were to throw an object at his face in real life, it would be extremely difficult for him to know when it will hit him. It would also be very difficult to drive, etc.

    So in summary, yes, you are missing a lot. Depth perception is an amazing sense. It is what separates real life apart from looking at a photo.


    This, however, those like myself who have been blind in one eye (Legally, that is, it has developed as a sort of extended peripheral) learn to calculate distances between objects cognitively and adjust accordingly.
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    posted a message on Actions Justified?
    Quote from Homem Pigman

    She spat on him and threatened to "kick his ass". I still facepalmed at him being sent to court.


    I still wouldn't have punched her, a simple double/single leg at full speed and strength onto concrete or a hard floor is more than enough to incapacitate someone long enough to recover any lost belongings.
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    posted a message on good source for becoming tech savvy
    Buy an A+ guide it will cover the basics of everything so all you have to do is keep up with current hardware.
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