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Wow, so I'm all for giving to anyone in need at all times but to hold progress on the updating of this mod (Your wording in your spoiler tags makes it seem like you haven't even started) is pretty shameful.

Let's face it. A low percentage of people will donate to this. Most have no job or money being just youngsters that have this held over their heads now.

And who knows how long it'll be till the goal is reached? Couldn't wait for this mod to come out for the new version but after this, I'll pass.

Quote from Grinngo »

So I'm new to this but it seems pretty fun. ; o; How does it work exactly?

Keep posting with that sig and within a few days your egg should hatch into a hatchling. If you see any message indicating your egg/hatchling is sickened, hit actions and then hide and wait about a day till your dragon is better.

Thems the basics, at least...

______
/ R.I.P \
| Here |
| Lies |
| Red |
| Matter|
|_____ |
(_____)
(_____)
(_____)
(_____)

Here Lies Red Matter tools
they were amazing, much better than dark matter
they were harder to obtain, making it a challenge to get,
but all great things that begin must end.
Therefore we shall keep them in our minecraft 1.3.2
and never forget how useful they were
Binary to binary
Rust to rust

but in SMP the chunks are loaded all the time and the server is (presumably) on 24/7.
You start a world, and the next day it is obsolete and you are Gods.

I never said THIS was OP, lol

two words: Chunk loader. aka: it's *horribly* broken on servers as one just sets up one collector and one condenser and bam, creative mode given the server runs all the time.

besides, i never mentioned anything about SMP did I?

besides, chunks being loaded all the time on a server is totally new to me... (mostly cus the servers i play on doesnt have this *bug*)
and if this bug makes it OP, isnt it the bug and not the device, lol
besides I was saying i didnt find it OP because i cant possibly take in mind bugs and chunks always being loaded and so on
and as ive stated earlier, im not complaining on the mod or the fact this stuff is gone, im complaining about the people complaining this stuff was OP without SMP in mind as i find tekkit quite boring.

oh and btw, about this *bug*, how come ive never experienced it ever when im playing tekkit with my friends on our server?

Think about it, ppl say something is OP, you say its not regardless where, the other ppl says its OP cus of a bug in SMP, you say you didnt take it in mind because you never experience that bug even when ur playing on a server urself.

and besides..(again again) to answer ur question

No, i dont find that OP, i dont find the device itself OP which is what i were talking about, i didnt talk about any side factors like servers, bugs, light giving methods, i talked about the device itself

A device with the price of 102 glowstone 17 furnaces 198 diamonds 35 obsidian 22 glass that makes diamonds every 5th min isnt OP, but all side factors makes an exception, as long as you keep adding those factiors, the outcome is different, someone who has it next to glowstone and in sunlight will have different opinions, someone with the bug and without bug will have different opinions, anyone on a server where the chunks doesnt unload so it keeps generating and not will have different opinions about OP'ness and not, but i only talked about the device itself alone without any side factors.

so based on what i know of the device which involves no bug with chunk loading, i cant find it OP
but ofc, all side factors makes an exception, always.

Quote from B0bst3r45

Well I take my hat off to Pahimar for making these changes, EE2 is overpowered and takes the mine out of minecraft and he knows it, hence the changes.

Once you have your condenser and collectors you just sit or stand there and do nothing whilst stuff magics up from sunlight. Server owners quickly became aware that enabling EE2 killed the lifespan of player longevity and thus came the cropping of EE2/collectors/condensers from servers.

I whole heartedly agree with the changes Pahimar is making and bringing the life back into playability, bravo sir.

(Like, if you were to replicate this device using an existing one, it would take
OVER 16 Hours 30 mins of gameplay while being in constant light)

*stand there and and do nothing*
pfft, thats lies, do you want to stand still for over 16 hours of ur gameplay time?

Besides, 102 glowstone 17 furnaces 198 diamonds 35 obsidian 22 glass is the cost for 1 device, and as you replicate more devices, the cost of upgrading gets higher and higher

Oh and btw

wna kno something more OP than the collectors and the relays?

the feature from old EqEx 1 where you could transmute ores into diamond ore and everything into

mostly whatever you wanted with only philosopher stone required without any other components required which EqEx 2 had including the collectors and relays and the tablets aswell as the Klein stars.., glad its been removed- oh wait... its RE ADDED...

Tbh, by re adding the OP feature that was removed in EqEx 2, just puts us back where we started, stuff is op and stuff that wasnt really OP have been removed...again
Like, The Collectors and relays, tablets etc was to replace this old OP feature where you could transmute everything using only the P.stone so everyone saying Collectors and Relays are OP and supports the old feature, are like ppl renting ppl to murder someone while theyre against murder themselves

Besides Condensers and Relays wasnt overpowered, with 17 relays and 5 condensers which is

17(6 glowstone + furnace + glass + 9 diamonds) + 5(7 obsidian + glass + 9 diamonds

= 102 glowstone 17 furnaces + 17 glass 153 diamonds + 35 obsidian 5 glass 45 diamonds

= 102 glowstone 17 furnaces 198 diamonds 35 obsidian 22 glass

How can a device that requires this much and produces 1 diamond every 5 min be OP?

(Like, if you were to replicate this device using an existing one, it would take
OVER 16 Hours 30 mins of gameplay while being in constant light)

lets make it even more expensive for the upgraded version of the device:

MK2 Device:

102 glowstone 17 furnaces 198 diamonds 35 obsidian 22 glass + 5(17 diamonds + 7 obsidian)

= 102 glowstone 17 furnaces 283 diamonds 70 obsidian 22 glass

still OP?

ok lets go even more expensive

MK3 Device:

102 glowstone 17 furnaces 283 diamonds 70 obsidian 22 glass + 5(74 diamonds + 7 obsidian)

= 102 glowstone 17 furnaces 653 Diamonds 105 obsidian 22 glass

This is more than building 4 Full Level beacons out of diamond blocks. A full set of Red Matter Armor is worth ap. 15 Of those beacons


so i ask again? HOW IS THIS OP?

Im not pissed because this stuff is removed, im pissed at people saying red matter and stuff is op, redmatter stuff is NOT OP, it sounds more believable saying its UP because of the massive cost.

This is just terrible. You are taking away from what minecraft is made from, like other servers out there. If realism and politics is what you want, play Real Life.