I know that people in charge actually look at these, and this is still ongoing, so I will share my issues as well.
I would like to know why the little "online" symbol above the avatars has been removed. And more importantly, the little list at the bottom of the people viewing a topic, the "X users, Y guests, Z anonymous users", why that is missing. I found the list of people on a topic to be useful. And the little thing that tells me if someone is online or not. That simple little icon.
I know in SOME locations you can hover the mouse over the username and a box will try to load that lets you view their profile, and whether they are online. I say "some" because it only seems to work on the headings of PMs. And it never seems to load.
And, of course, I have not noticed much improvement in reliability/stability. I'm still getting 502s and "Server at Capacity" messages quite frequently.
Then there are the issues many people have brought up I don't feel like repeating.
I'm hoping that these issues will be resolved somehow.
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This sounds a lot like me. I don't really indentify as a furry but hey, that's mostly the sort of stuff I like to draw and spend a decent amount of time browsing art of. I just really like anthro characters, I have a bit of trouble interacting with people but I do pretty well with animals, so animal people, why not?
As for bullies, if they want to bully you, they will find a reason. Too fat, too thin, too tall or short, ginger, furry, brony, nerd, whatever.
I'm not sure if it's tolerance or that they just don't care all that much. It might be one and the same at this point. I went to high school with a few people that would wear tails and ears and they never got much trouble for it (aside from teachers who were uppity about dress code stuff in general). I can see it being a problem if you're running around making animal noises and your shirt has suggestive furry artwork on it or something, but I have only seen people do that a handful of times in my entire life, and I think in a couple cases it was being done in an ironic or satirical fashion.
I find those sort of people to be unbearable myself. You want a medal for being a furry? Where's my medal for being a cartoon artist?
That might just be Special Snowflake Syndrome in general, though, I find those sort of people also tend to be very stubborn and opinionated on other subjects as well.
Funny "you aren't a real furry" experiences I've had: I've been told I can't be a furry because I don't like the NSFW stuff. Just doesn't interest me. I don't show massive amounts of pride in having a fetish, either. The funniest one was someone telling me I can't be a furry because I DO draw, and I don't commission popular artists and repost the work to my gallery. What?
Oh, and the whole "you don't go to cons" and "you don't fursuit" ones come up too. I think those are honestly really funny.
Also, sketch-artists-that-do-digital-versions-with-PDN, REPRESENT!
I'd rather not start a flamewar, but hey, it's something that we might be able to discuss. When I was looking for alternatives to DeviantArt because I wanted to spread out a bit (DA is sorta like Youtube, it's not perfect but it's the biggest site and the one everyone knows when it comes to art) I seriously considered FA. Many of my friends recommended it. But after looking into it, how outdated it is and how poorly it's run and how there's always some sort of drama going, I realized there's no way I could make myself start an account there. Probably a good decision, things went insane over there recently I hear because of some staffing decisions and stuff. Meh. If it works for you, more power to ya.
You might also want to check out Weasyl. It's still in beta, still doesn't have too many active users, but it's really picking up and I really like it so far.
Of course, if you aren't on DA yet, that's a good place to have an account. It has a bad rap at times but that's really only if you get involved with drama and fanart and massive circlejerks. It's also got a far better variety of things to look at since it's for all sorts of art. I love looking at photography, especially landscapes, trees, mushrooms, aquatic life and cityscapes.
And, before I forget, tree #2 looks the best to me as well.
Lurk mode, more like "I fell out of the check MCF frequently" habit a while back. Sorry about that. Between real-life stuff, making art and browsing art, kinda been neglecting many of the sites I used to check.
I should check more often so I don't go all textwall on everyone once a week...
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The issue with the more player models thing would be getting people to install it so everyone could see the anthro models properly. From what I understand there's no server-side version, and for various reasons people can't run/figure out Forge, or can't be bothered to install mods for whatever reason.
It would be nice if, in the future, they would support more model types natively.
Yep, I'm still here... kinda... lurking... I need to either get active here or get a life.
"Emoclew" sounds like it should be a furry name. Like for a really bad Warrior Cats furry or something. Like "Emoclaw" but messed up. This could make a good joke character now that I think about it...
And yeah, people making accounts to promote things and they don't even bother to type up any sort of intro or anything. I get that enough on DeviantArt, so by default I just ignore any unexplained link dropped somewhere. Sorry, guy.
Oddly enough, I don't think games get panned just for having anthros in them. I mean, even if you're not a furry, anthros are still just basic fantasy and cartoon stuff and they don't bother people. You might have seen negativity directed towards games that are obviously geared towards furries (like those weird MMOs) and of course people aren't going to want anything to do with that sort of stuff unless it actually interests them (tl;dr no mass appeal, too niche).
I'd say include anthros and humans. Lots of fantasy games/shows/whatever do this, it really does work. A mixed party of anthro and human might help too, or the option to select races. Think about giving various races different abilities and stuff, when I think about that sort of stuff I generally want humans to be more versatile and have broader variety of skills (and maybe better intelligence stats or require less xp/skill points/whatever for some skills) to compensate for some anthro races being stronger physically, or faster, or having sharper senses, or whatever.
Also, as Portadiam said, start small. You can always expand later, or make a sort of demo/beta thing for practice before going all in.
That post. All my THIS.
I'm totally up for a discussion on the topic if anyone else is. It seems like a lot of the problems that furries have now do come from the way they act and it creates a sort of vicious cycle. They just take something that's supposed to be fun WAAAAY too seriously.
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Hi, welcome! There's not really any rules or anything about what to contribute so long as it's furry-related and safe for work. I think. Art, discussion, whatever. I know exactly what you mean about lurking though, unless there's an actual topic going or something, I don't know what to talk about usually.
The new skins are really going to help with things like tails, I agree. They'll actually appear somewhat distinct from the body, it's gonna be cool. There's always that More Player Models mod that has actual anthro/furry models in it, but modding MC is a pain in the ass nowadays, not to mention that other players need to have the mod to be able to see the custom models.
I know that feeling too. Social anxiety combined with lots of bad experiences with people through the years makes it really difficult to talk to people, even online. I guess a forum situation is relatively easy because it's got a lot of other people chatting and it's easier to mingle and stuff, but personal interaction is really hard.
Oh, I forgot to post art. I don't really have all that much worth sharing lately, been kinda art blocked the past couple weeks.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Domingo-Needs-a-Rest-428185250
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Music-Disk-Digital-Color-430679989
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Thanks! I should color that sometime, now that you mention it.
So far, the Ratboy Genius picture looks pretty good! I've never seen it myself but I think I have heard it mentioned once or twice before in offhand discussion.
Thanks! I'm glad you like them! The banner is actually one I made for my Weasyl page, but since I'm way more active on DA (and I've been there for a couple years so I have most of my stuff there already) I have it link to my DA page still.
I don't think you should have much trouble with that skin outside of the usual "lol furry" trolling that you'd get regardless. The skin looks really good, better than anything I've ever managed to make.
Speaking of, is anyone looking forward to the new skin layout? That should make things like tails and wings work just a bit better, I'm looking forward to updating my skin collection once that hits.
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But if they were abilities the animal has by default (such as skunks being able to shoot noxious chemicals at predators), would that still work? Either way, my "fursona" is kinda just a guy that looks like me (but wearing some accessories) at this point. I could become him with a trip to a crafts supply store and a few days to work on crafting the accessories.
Humorous related image:
Yay, pocket-sized furry critters. He could borrow outfits and props from action figures!
I mostly just lurk nowadays, I don't have much to contribute to the discussion most of the time, and I don't feel like derailing things just to post art or something.
Well, I guess I will post a couple of my pictures now. Because it came up.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Domingo-the-Bandit-Digital-Color-426853182
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/The-Last-Jelly-Doughnut-Digital-Color-425591398
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I tried.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/A-Bit-Late-for-Halloween-411424530
Looks pretty good! Outlines seem a bit shaky, though. How did you do them? You'll get a far better result with the line/curve tool than the paintbrush and mouse. It's also quite the time-saver, in my opinon.
Paint.NET is what I use too. Awesome program.
I like shorter characters too, they just look cuter for whatever reason. I think it is the cartoony appearance that just makes them seem more fun and unique.
Fursona designs lasting more than a week? Yeah, I wish... kinda the problem with being creative, I'm always making new characters and thinking of things I want to try.
I do all of my digital work as a tracing of an existing sketch or drawing using the line/curve tool. It works pretty well in my opinion.
I suppose if you wanted to do just hand-drawn with digital coloring, you could (very neatly) ink a drawing in black, and then import it to your art program. Set that layer to "multiply", put a layer beneath it to color on, and that should work. I don't really know how to use filters and effects to simply enhance a picture, I figure if I'm gonna go through that much work I might as well just make a nice fully digital pic.
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Does this count?
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Hugo-s-Haunted-Book-Digital-Color-402036439
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So short catch-up reply time:
No comment on the Falvie thing, besides that neglecting to finish work you have been paid to complete is unprofessional, but popular artists seem to get way more leeway with that sort of thing than they should (although I can understand getting swamped, too, and that might be a factor). Hopefully that all gets straightened out and people get their art soon.
Someone thinks brain damage causes furry? Well, given that many furries seem to be brain damaged, I can see where they get that impression. I meant that last sentence half-jokingly, but in all seriousness, it's kinda screwed up to get angry at someone just because they identify as a furry, unless they start acting like a total tool about it.
Acting like furry is a "race" or something is weird, in my opinion. I think a some of the friction with those outside the fandom comes from people within the fandom taking it so seriously.
Lots of awesome art here, as usual. I'll have to check out some of the linked DA galleries, I've been more active there lately and I'm actually looking for more artists to watch.
And, finally, obligatory art post time. In my absence from Minecraft (forum and game) I have managed to improve my artwork a bit more.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Nikolai-Having-a-Snack-Digital-Color-409719411
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Commission-Queen-of-the-Jennets-408674999
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Kirin-Dark-Sorcerer-405425233
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And here it is!
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Birthday-Gift-ClassikGameGuy-397036142
Yay! Notches! What do they eat?
I'm glad you were able to get the color you wanted. As for what works with black and red, gonna have to agree with Nitrous, a grey color would probably work best as it won't clash too much with the black or the red.
I find myself redesigning or creating completely new fursonas quite frequently myself, so don't feel too bad about it. I envy those that can stick to one character design for more than a few months. Unless my human character with the costume tail and ears and snout counts as a "fursona", I connect with him pretty well because he is the exact sort of dork I would be if I were a cartoon. Are human fursonas a thing?
Anyways, looking forward to seeing this new design!
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You shouldn't feel too bad, but it's actually a good thing that you want to improve it. That's how you get better at art, that desire to keep improving and to try new things.
The head would be pretty easy to fix-just make it larger and add a bit of "scruffiness" to it. Given the level of detail in the rest of the drawing, the head looks rather bland and undetailed by comparison and that makes it look worse than it is.
There is this mentality in the digital art world that you absolutely MUST use Photoshop or SAI, which is far from the case. In fact, one of my friends who uses SAI was a bit jealous when I mentioned that Paint.NET has a gradient tool (which apparently SAI lacks, unless he didn't look in the right spot, I don't use that one myself so I can't tell).
If the goal is simply to enhance photographs, GIMP is fine for that, and that was already explained.
However, if you really, and I mean REALLY care about the quality of your traditional work when posted online, you need to get a scanner. It's a must. While scanners also sometimes have issues with the quality of the scan, the result is still immensely superior to using a camera.
I never had much luck with blending colored pencils myself, but I would suggest trying maroon, violet, purple, or brown (I'm assuming you have a rather basic brand and not something as expensive but varied as Prismacolor). As Wry explained, grey and black are not good for blending.
I would post some art here but I am lacking much worth sharing, since the past couple weeks I was working on a couple commissions, some requests/gifts, and some random goofy stuff that I wouldn't really want to share here anyways. This is the best I can do:
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Wolf-Commando-Digital-Color-396164172
Also, AJ, I was going to draw you something as a birthday gift (I saw that notification in my messages on DA) but what I was working on got messed up and I will have to start over. Might be a day or two late because of that.
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Hello!
Would it be possible to add the mask now? I'm not sure of your process but it doesn't seem like it would be too much trouble to simply edit it in.
Otherwise, very nice work, looks really good!
The male form looks really good! I really think you'd benefit from using a scanner, even if you don't own one it might be possible to use one at a friend or relative's house, school, or library. The additional hassle would be worth it to have the drawings scanned cleanly, they would be much easier to look at and look much crisper and cleaner. Of course, scanners have a habit of screwing up drawings, but nowhere near as bad as cameras.
The other option would be to take them into your favorite digital art program that supports layers (Paint.NET, GIMP, Photoshop, whatever that isn't MS Paint) and trace over them. I don't have a tablet, I rely on a mouse and the line/curve tool when I do digital work, which I trace from hand-drawn sketches.
Now the female form... I think you're going to keep getting those sorts of criticisms. Even if you have a good reason for the exaggeration, the average viewer might not know that. Nobody reads the artist description on DeviantArt or any other art site anyways. What we see is a furry lady with really big boobs and not much else. I can't force you to change the design but I can recommend it. I think just trying to give her more modest, realistic proportions (even if still somewhat exaggerated) will result in a far better character design overall.
Oh, right, time to post some arts.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Dusty-and-his-Motorcycle-388914810
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Away-390847382
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Also, has anyone considered making a DA group for the artists of this thread? There is an MCF Bronies group, why not an MCF Furries one too? Would anyone be interested in something like that?
Good advice.
I think the reason that I get discouraged is because I actually care about my characters and stuff. As for losing watchers because I want to do my own thing, well, that hasn't stopped me from drawing what I want to yet. If they are only interested in me for the offhand fetish fuel, their opinion does not matter to me at all.
I'm with AJ, I don't like drawing one niche or one subject matter, and I like to draw all sorts of things.
Also, the compliment is appreciated, thanks!
I feel your pain. My most favorited thing (that isn't My Little Pony fanart) is also a babyfur request... Yeesh. People must think I am just another lackluster wannabe babyfur artist because all the stuff that gets favorited are old crappy drawings from years ago that I post to scraps and babyfur stuff. DeviantArt's "More Like This" thing seems to dredge up that sort of crap when I am lucky enough to get it to show any of my work at all.
/end rant
I actually don't mind drawing babies (I differentiate between "babies" as, well, babies and "babyfurs" as the people who are really into them), they are cute and fun to draw. I just don't want to have all my other work overshadowed by old, crappy baby/babyfur stuff.
Cute drawing, by the way.
On the flip side, I just realized I rarely draw elder characters, maybe I should try drawing some again later.
And some art, why not? I've actually been productive this weekend (catching a cold nonwithstanding)...
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/New-Buddy-388740013
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Dusty-and-his-Motorcycle-388914810
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Catch-a-Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide!
Like any other thread, this one goes through bursts of activity and then long periods of inactivity.
And lots of complaining about art block and the lack of "RP" and stuff...
It's not the most interesting thing in the world to come back to this thread and see 30 posts that amount to "I'm bored" either.
I have a solution though: Furry Poll 2013 is out.
http://furrypoll.com/2013/
I'm not too closely affiliated with the furry fandom but I thought it was interesting to look at some of the data they had gathered from the last few yearly surveys, and I did take this myself too.
Also: I have seen people refer to furry characters as "furs" so does that mean humans are "skins"?
Agreed. I just don't find random paint splotches or overlapping boxes particularly artistic. They demonstrate art theory sometimes but they lack much in the way of any sort of meaning to me besides "gimme money plz".
I haven't really bothered to draw much lately.
I guess I could start sharing stuff though, even though I noticed there isn't that much interest in the more cartoony art styles.
http://lorddominic.deviantart.com/art/Tiny-385567905
Easier said than done. With people having different interests, it would be difficult to make something that would engage everyone. Some sort of fantasy adventure thing might not work for some, while others might find a roleplay version of "let's all wander around a village and chat" to be dull.
(Also, most of my experience with "furry RP" is NSFW or just lots of dumb animal noises "woof woof murr murr arf arf moo" so that's kind of a deterrent for me.)
I would suggest finding some reference images of animals and working from them. A simple Google search should turn up plenty of pictures of any animal you could want. It might also be a good idea to look them up on Wikipedia too.
This is a problem I have too. I only have three watchers that seem to care about anything I do, the rest are just there for the offhand character in underwear or baby I draw, which they swarm because it's fetish fuel for them. There's just no reason to put effort into anything when an MS Paint blobcat or fillbucketed sparkledog or baby dog lazily sketched onto notebook paper photographed with a
potatocell phone camera gets more views, positive feedback and favorites than something we work for hours on.Simply put, most furries do NOT care about art that isn't relevant to their fetish or from someone that isn't already famous.
Despite what I just said, it might be worthwhile for you to make an account on DeviantArt. It's far more permanent than, say, Imgur (not to mention easier to search for) and you could easily link your gallery in your sig like many others (including myself) have.
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Ah, so there is a reason behind it. I was afraid that it was either not knowing how to draw female anatomy (it is tough to get down, for sure) or simply "I want to draw furry chicks with huge jugs".
The digital/nanotech aspects of these characters is really an interesting touch.
Greyscale is good. I like the simple design this character has.
Reminds me, I am still considering making a Tumblr account but I am just too frustrated and discouraged to draw anything new lately...
I know this feeling all too well, I am the same way. Design a character, their personality, history, all that stuff, then draw them a bunch but forget to actually write down any of their history or backstory anywhere...
It's good to see other people putting lots of thoughts into their characters though!
As an aside, since the topic of a "furry server" has come up on here a few times lately, my friend has been running a server for a while now and is looking for more players. I'll just drop a link to his thread because he wants to actually have people apply (so we don't get griefers/trolls/immature idiots).
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1874436-161-small-survival-build-server-for-mature-players/
While this isn't a "furry server" (what even IS that, anyways?) it's a friendly server and nobody is going to grief your stuff or anything just because you're a furry. I am even considering finding an area to reserve as "Furryville" if anyone is interested (we could use more towns and stuff). Just gonna leave this here, check it out if interested, no pressure.
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Well, at least you're aware that she's exaggerated...
The only real problem I see here is how exaggerated her proportions are. I'd really like to see you try to draw a female character with more modest, realistic proportions. Right now she just kinda screams "generic furry boob lady", not to mention doesn't her back hurt?
Realistically, her breasts should only be a quarter to half that size, same goes for the hips. I think she would look a lot better if she had a more realistic body type.
If there is some specific reason, like the whole "digital" thing you have going with your characters, this could actually work as a sort of comedic thing if used in moderation. Something glitches out and suddenly... Mega Boobs. The key to making this work would still be to normally have her with a normal body type.
There is nothing wrong with traditional art whatsoever. I feel that the online community as a whole seems to focus too much on digital art, which can be discouraging for those of us that prefer a pencil and paper over a tablet or mouse.
I thought I was going to offend people by saying I prefer more cartoony art to the semi-realistic and "anime" styles that seem so popular now...
Anyways, I think I am in agreement here, I'm not huge into big boobs and all that either.