People like to do this a lot. "Game A looks better than Game B, but Game A runs better"
Graphic quality does not necessarily equal the game's performance. There are many other factors that culminate to how a game will perform, such as the engine, the skill of the developers, and individual hardware.
Minecraft clearly wasn't built in mind with these shaders, therefore you can't just slap these kind of visual effects on a game like Minecraft and expect it to run like Half Life 2 (which is nearly 12 years old and used a lot of baked lighting rather than dynamic lighting). Half Life 2 is just a poor example in general. That game handles lighting and shadows completely different than SEUS does.
I'm guilty of asking for some kind of miracle answer on how to get these shaders to run better as well, and what we need to realize is that there's already a lot of technical work being done underneath that makes these shaders run better than they really have any reason to for a project being worked on by a couple people at most for no direct monetary gain.
Sorry but you can't change shadow distance anymore in seus v11 cause of his new extended shadow distance, it's the same with continuum and chocapics latest shaders, this new shadow distance has very little performance hit from the old 120 distance.
Wow, really? Okay. I'll have to find another way to increase performance I guess. Because no lie, performance is the exact same whether I have it set to Low or Extreme. In fact, I'm fairly certain it runs slightly better in Extreme than Low (probably has to do with it utilizing more resources at that point)
I was wondering if there was something wrong with the Shadow Distance setting.
It seems no matter what I set it to, I can see the shadows all the way at the very edge of the map when I have view distance set to "Far".
I tried keeping my characters shadow the the top right of the cursor, but it might be hard to see. But hopefully you can see, that little gray dot is my characters shadow being rendered even when I'm high in the air with the shadow at the edge of the map view distance.
I have the shadow distance setting set to 80.0 both in game and in the txt file. I also modified the composite.fsh file's shadow settings to see if that made a difference as well. It did not.
You have to change the RenderRes higher than 1.0. It's gotta be 2.0 or higher to make the clouds look nice.
Ahh, thank you! That looks much better, but it seems to kill my fps. 30FPS minimum isn't too bad I guess, at least until Sonic Ether gets it all sorted out later on
I know the new clouds are still being tested, but I've seen videos and screenshots of everyones looking fine so far. When I enabled them, mine don't look correct at all. They are rather...pixely? They have this series of dots in them, making them look rather ugly. Is there something I'm missing?
Will a Xeon E5-2697 ( 2.7 Ghz ) be beaten by a Phenom II X2 565 BE ( 3.4 Ghz ) in an application able to take advantage of high #s of cores? No
You see, now everyone is against me by bringing up arguments of programs that actually utilize extra cores. that's not what this guy was asking. I knew that. Minecraft doesn't use extra cores that well (at least not until recently. they have been working on it)
Google it. If you knew so much, then we wouldn't be having this discussion.
I didn't say I knew so much. I said if you knew something I didn't, share that knowledge. You're obviously just some jerk on the internet. Ghz is important in gaming. Don't you dare try to tell me a game would run better on a quad core at 1.8Ghz compared to a dual core running at 3.5Ghz. It's not that simple. The game needs to be optimized to utilize the extra cores first before there's any gain. I'm not an idiot, despite your current disposition against me (for absolutley no good reason). If you're not going to try to show me proof to back up your claim, and to continue to insult me, I'll just leave. Give this guy all the advice you want, you're not worth my time.
think i will get better then 30 fps with optifine?
You'll do just fine. You'll get more than 30FPS, especially with the Optifine mod. I'd had great performance on a laptop less powerful than the one you have.
Get out. You know nothing. Ghz =/= performance. A 1.3 Ghz processor might could be faster than a 3.5, for example.
Based on what? Do not tell me I don't know anything. Explain to me first before you make such bold claims. I've been building PCs for years. If you have knowledge I don't, share it with me, don't insult me.
We will need to know the graphics processor as well before a true judgement can be made. That seems to be the big thing everyone forgets. Also there are many models of the i5 processor, so we will need to at least know the clock speed of the i5. 6GB of RAM is plenty for Minecraft, and the HDD isn't really a factor since most computers past 2004 have a decent amount of space.
Nevermind, I looked it up myself. The processor is a dual core with 4 core threading. It can reach between 2.6-3.2 Ghz, which is fine for Minecraft. The graphic chip, which is Intel HD 4000, should be just enough, but don't expect a massive leap from the 360 version. It's about on par with a 9500GT Nvidia card, which when I had one could barely run Call of Duty 4 on PC. It should do just fine, but don't expect many graphic mods.
We will need to know the graphics processor as well before a true judgement can be made. That seems to be the big thing everyone forgets. Also there are many models of the i5 processor, so we will need to at least know the clock speed of the i5. 6GB of RAM is plenty for Minecraft, and the HDD isn't really a factor since most computers past 2004 have a decent amount of space.
Hmm, the only thing I could think of is placing glowstone, or using a 3rd party external program, add redstone lamps in the 'on' state.
Well, I've used glowstone in some of the houses, but I'm trying to make my build a bit more authentic, where some of the houses are lit up at night, and some aren't. My overall goal is to make as much of my home town as possible, using google maps, and then opening it into a server so that people can choose the house they want to move into. My job is to give them a basic foundation for the house, including lighting, so all they need to do is place furniture the way they want. Glowstone is a nice temporary solution, but I don't want all houses lit up at all times constantly.
Minecraft is the most successful indie game of all time. It has, literally, millions of players. When a game gets this popular, you're going to attract everyone to it, even the low-life people who want to do nothing but hack-to-win, because it probably gives them a sense that they are actually good at something when they aren't. This isn't just a Minecraft thing, this is EVERY online game. Have you seen GTA5? Or Call of Duty? Infestation? DayZ? Battlefield? There are hackers in all of these games.
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People like to do this a lot. "Game A looks better than Game B, but Game A runs better"
Graphic quality does not necessarily equal the game's performance. There are many other factors that culminate to how a game will perform, such as the engine, the skill of the developers, and individual hardware.
Minecraft clearly wasn't built in mind with these shaders, therefore you can't just slap these kind of visual effects on a game like Minecraft and expect it to run like Half Life 2 (which is nearly 12 years old and used a lot of baked lighting rather than dynamic lighting). Half Life 2 is just a poor example in general. That game handles lighting and shadows completely different than SEUS does.
I'm guilty of asking for some kind of miracle answer on how to get these shaders to run better as well, and what we need to realize is that there's already a lot of technical work being done underneath that makes these shaders run better than they really have any reason to for a project being worked on by a couple people at most for no direct monetary gain.
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Wow, really? Okay. I'll have to find another way to increase performance I guess. Because no lie, performance is the exact same whether I have it set to Low or Extreme. In fact, I'm fairly certain it runs slightly better in Extreme than Low (probably has to do with it utilizing more resources at that point)
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I was wondering if there was something wrong with the Shadow Distance setting.
It seems no matter what I set it to, I can see the shadows all the way at the very edge of the map when I have view distance set to "Far".
I tried keeping my characters shadow the the top right of the cursor, but it might be hard to see. But hopefully you can see, that little gray dot is my characters shadow being rendered even when I'm high in the air with the shadow at the edge of the map view distance.
I have the shadow distance setting set to 80.0 both in game and in the txt file. I also modified the composite.fsh file's shadow settings to see if that made a difference as well. It did not.
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Ahh, thank you! That looks much better, but it seems to kill my fps. 30FPS minimum isn't too bad I guess, at least until Sonic Ether gets it all sorted out later on
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You see, now everyone is against me by bringing up arguments of programs that actually utilize extra cores. that's not what this guy was asking. I knew that. Minecraft doesn't use extra cores that well (at least not until recently. they have been working on it)
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I didn't say I knew so much. I said if you knew something I didn't, share that knowledge. You're obviously just some jerk on the internet. Ghz is important in gaming. Don't you dare try to tell me a game would run better on a quad core at 1.8Ghz compared to a dual core running at 3.5Ghz. It's not that simple. The game needs to be optimized to utilize the extra cores first before there's any gain. I'm not an idiot, despite your current disposition against me (for absolutley no good reason). If you're not going to try to show me proof to back up your claim, and to continue to insult me, I'll just leave. Give this guy all the advice you want, you're not worth my time.
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You'll do just fine. You'll get more than 30FPS, especially with the Optifine mod. I'd had great performance on a laptop less powerful than the one you have.
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Based on what? Do not tell me I don't know anything. Explain to me first before you make such bold claims. I've been building PCs for years. If you have knowledge I don't, share it with me, don't insult me.
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Nevermind, I looked it up myself. The processor is a dual core with 4 core threading. It can reach between 2.6-3.2 Ghz, which is fine for Minecraft. The graphic chip, which is Intel HD 4000, should be just enough, but don't expect a massive leap from the 360 version. It's about on par with a 9500GT Nvidia card, which when I had one could barely run Call of Duty 4 on PC. It should do just fine, but don't expect many graphic mods.
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Ahh, I forgot about those. I had not toyed around with daylight sensors yet. That's not a bad idea if I can get it to work in some way.
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Well, I've used glowstone in some of the houses, but I'm trying to make my build a bit more authentic, where some of the houses are lit up at night, and some aren't. My overall goal is to make as much of my home town as possible, using google maps, and then opening it into a server so that people can choose the house they want to move into. My job is to give them a basic foundation for the house, including lighting, so all they need to do is place furniture the way they want. Glowstone is a nice temporary solution, but I don't want all houses lit up at all times constantly.
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