In Fallout 3, I felt that the BOS was whoever you wanted them to be. In New Vegas you see that the BOS isn't all that is cracked up to be and are more morally neutral than they looked in 3 but that carries over so you kind of have this idea that they may be hiding something from you, or you are just looking at the Fallout 3 BOS through rose colored glasses. In New Vegas, most of the factions had there dark secrets and redeeming qualities but some of them were just plain bad (Caesar's Legion) I can agree that Fallout NV had it's more in-depth characters but Fallout 3 also had it's more interesting characters as well. The thing on 3 being right after the bomb is fairly accurate but I think the larger amount of Super Mutants and the fact that D.C. is the capital of America and therefore the area that most countries targeting us would aim for, can somewhat account for the lack of progression whereas, in New Vegas, it was protected from the bombs by Mr. House. While this can't account for the surrounding areas most of the people in Las Vegas would diffuse into the countryside and would result in the higher population, as opposed to the desolate area around Washington.
You relize that BOS in the western areas are completely different then the ones in the east.
lyons even confirms this saying they changed there ways when they got there.
in all honesty the "outcasts" are the same as the western brotherhood.
even the eastern and western enclave are somewhat different in some views.
this was done on purpose to show how distances can change factional views and traits over time.
isolation does interesting things to people.
idk if you read comments or are just mentally challenged.
i never advertise my channel.
and i did say before that even on the new vegas forums and site and other places people said the same things..
your just in denial since most people disagree with you.
its obvious in your comments your agree.
-wtf are talking about towns dont make sense >.<
your saying a crazy bunch of boomers makes more sense then a cannibal town?
i would disagree there as well.
but whatever you have showed no proof thus far.
its obvious your prolly one of those little COD like kids or just arent an original fallout fan.
so ill make this short.
I always play on Hardcore with very hard and you can kill a deathclaw in 2 or 3 hits with a bunmper sword (assuming you have turbo or vats to dodge the quick deathclaw attacks)
dude theirs tons of fallout new vegas threads and forums and other sites as well that have people saying there opinions you just need to look.
your the minority in this case as our voice wont be heard by Bethesda.
cry's of the many out weigh the cry's of the few.
if you want proof go over to my friends live stream he plays vegas and 3 alot and you would see what im talking about:
twitch.tv/craft_kid
new vegas is completly unbalanced.
storys are bland and theres no character. if you have seen any youtube videos talking about fallout 4 or even talking about the series.
people dislike new vegas alot:
matty,lonevaultwanderer,calchris, yong yea, and many more
its not really bias when thats when everyone goes to mainly talk about fallout not typically a minecraft forum.
anyways you arguement is invalid so im going to leave this here.
i need to go make more plugins and cant afford to argue with a 12 year old.
New Vegas Was Trash in story and expessially in many over powered things.
you could be more powerful in new vegas as a level 20 then in fallout 3's level 20.
just from how monsters and guns were made in new vegas is mostly due to this >.<
being able to kill a f#cking deathclaw as a level 20 because your melee is at 80
in Two hits is very ridiculous, (all super mutants and raiders or etc would die in 1 hit even if i hit them at there legs or hand)
being at 70 skill with guns and having a 44 mag you can kill super mutants in 1 or 2 hits as a lvl 18 or so.
anything above lvl 16 in vegas stuff just gets super easy :/
except to lonesome road since monsters had there own levels and would be 10 - 20 levels stronger then you.
but even then.
New Vegas has some things from fallout 2 but takes away just as much.
me being an original fallout fan back in 1996(when i played fallout) and etc i think fallout 3 is closer to how the game should be and more how the game was ment.
it was far more immersive and better story over all.
thats why almost all fallout fans agree fallout 3 is better then new vegas.
theres just a few stragglers like you that disagree
i do want the enclave to come back "slightly" kinda like how you killed all the behemoths in fallout 3 and then later tons of overlords showed up and seemed like they were slowly turning into behemoths.
it would be cool to see the enclave come back but only in a specific part of the wasteland and they WOULD not be in the main story they would just be like the dark brotherhood in TES you could help them or not
i think the legion shouldnt be in this next game much if at all because legion doesn't travel past the Missouri river or not yet..
NCR is way to far away in cali and technically just lost a fight(same with legion and house they all technically lost the fight because technically all endings did happen so they all will have an effect)
NCR wont be in eastern areas O.o
so the thing is...
i think fallout 4 will most likly have some new lore factions added
im sure BOS will be in next game but wont be a major part.
& there are over 340 White list Applications Received in last 3 months
(combining the count from planetMc,youtube,emails,and here and the actaul fallout forums that we clean out daily)
the grammar is okay.
unless your a grammar Nazi.
or at least its far better then the white list response grammar we typically get haha..
anyways yeah we offer and have a whole United States Map of america. which includes all 5 Previous Fallout games: Fallout 1 Fallout 2 Fallout: Tactics Fallout 3 Fallout: New Vegas
and there is some Fallout Van Buren References and Fallout BOS references. in game in some terminals and holotapes players find.
I edited it I made it 3 and strength 2. Or do new edits have to be reposted? And you're welcome Tntmaster.
typically reposted.
but thank you for telling us.
sorry i should have checked
im happy you understand why we cant have 0 skills.
it would destroy many other hard wire skills and theoretically couldnt happen(0 strength or intel) would destroy melee weapons and etc ect ect
anyways happy you wernt like some people who freak out because there asked to revised there work.
anyways.
since you seem quite moderate and even somewhat helpful maybe by chance you would like to be a builder or staff?
if so there should be apps on the main page as well
(im going to check xD to make sure)
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now hes trying to be a mocking bird
and repeat what i been saying to him lol
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dude dont talk bs.
you seem to know, no diffrence between your own butt hole and a hole in the ground >.<
this is pathetic im done with talking to you for now xD
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You relize that BOS in the western areas are completely different then the ones in the east.
lyons even confirms this saying they changed there ways when they got there.
in all honesty the "outcasts" are the same as the western brotherhood.
even the eastern and western enclave are somewhat different in some views.
this was done on purpose to show how distances can change factional views and traits over time.
isolation does interesting things to people.
idk if you read comments or are just mentally challenged.
i never advertise my channel.
and i did say before that even on the new vegas forums and site and other places people said the same things..
your just in denial since most people disagree with you.
its obvious in your comments your agree.
-wtf are talking about towns dont make sense >.<
your saying a crazy bunch of boomers makes more sense then a cannibal town?
i would disagree there as well.
but whatever you have showed no proof thus far.
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so ill make this short.
I always play on Hardcore with very hard and you can kill a deathclaw in 2 or 3 hits with a bunmper sword (assuming you have turbo or vats to dodge the quick deathclaw attacks)
dude theirs tons of fallout new vegas threads and forums and other sites as well that have people saying there opinions you just need to look.
your the minority in this case as our voice wont be heard by Bethesda.
cry's of the many out weigh the cry's of the few.
if you want proof go over to my friends live stream he plays vegas and 3 alot and you would see what im talking about:
twitch.tv/craft_kid
new vegas is completly unbalanced.
storys are bland and theres no character. if you have seen any youtube videos talking about fallout 4 or even talking about the series.
people dislike new vegas alot:
matty,lonevaultwanderer,calchris, yong yea, and many more
its not really bias when thats when everyone goes to mainly talk about fallout not typically a minecraft forum.
anyways you arguement is invalid so im going to leave this here.
i need to go make more plugins and cant afford to argue with a 12 year old.
~Sincerly FR Dev Jon Barlk
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New Vegas Was Trash in story and expessially in many over powered things.
you could be more powerful in new vegas as a level 20 then in fallout 3's level 20.
just from how monsters and guns were made in new vegas is mostly due to this >.<
being able to kill a f#cking deathclaw as a level 20 because your melee is at 80
in Two hits is very ridiculous, (all super mutants and raiders or etc would die in 1 hit even if i hit them at there legs or hand)
being at 70 skill with guns and having a 44 mag you can kill super mutants in 1 or 2 hits as a lvl 18 or so.
anything above lvl 16 in vegas stuff just gets super easy :/
except to lonesome road since monsters had there own levels and would be 10 - 20 levels stronger then you.
but even then.
New Vegas has some things from fallout 2 but takes away just as much.
me being an original fallout fan back in 1996(when i played fallout) and etc i think fallout 3 is closer to how the game should be and more how the game was ment.
it was far more immersive and better story over all.
thats why almost all fallout fans agree fallout 3 is better then new vegas.
theres just a few stragglers like you that disagree
go: http://fallout.bethsoft.com/
and go to the forums most people prefer fallout 3
i do want the enclave to come back "slightly" kinda like how you killed all the behemoths in fallout 3 and then later tons of overlords showed up and seemed like they were slowly turning into behemoths.
it would be cool to see the enclave come back but only in a specific part of the wasteland and they WOULD not be in the main story they would just be like the dark brotherhood in TES you could help them or not
i think the legion shouldnt be in this next game much if at all because legion doesn't travel past the Missouri river or not yet..
NCR is way to far away in cali and technically just lost a fight(same with legion and house they all technically lost the fight because technically all endings did happen so they all will have an effect)
NCR wont be in eastern areas O.o
so the thing is...
i think fallout 4 will most likly have some new lore factions added
im sure BOS will be in next game but wont be a major part.
idk hard to say
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Bethesda Won the court case and now have full control of Fallout series as of Dec 2013.
so fallout 4 will be good.
im personally sick of NCR.
Legion seems so Bland and blank (sometimes) but they can add more stuff to them
BOS would be Nice to see Come back in a DLC maybe
Enclave are pretty much Dead..
but they seem to never die so im sure there back
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& there are over 340 White list Applications Received in last 3 months
(combining the count from planetMc,youtube,emails,and here and the actaul fallout forums that we clean out daily)
the grammar is okay.
unless your a grammar Nazi.
or at least its far better then the white list response grammar we typically get haha..
anyways yeah we offer and have a whole United States Map of america.
which includes all 5 Previous Fallout games:
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Fallout: Tactics
Fallout 3
Fallout: New Vegas
and there is some Fallout Van Buren References and Fallout BOS references.
in game in some terminals and holotapes players find.
~Sincerely Dev. DLH
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typically reposted.
but thank you for telling us.
sorry i should have checked
im happy you understand why we cant have 0 skills.
it would destroy many other hard wire skills and theoretically couldnt happen(0 strength or intel) would destroy melee weapons and etc ect ect
anyways happy you wernt like some people who freak out because there asked to revised there work.
anyways.
since you seem quite moderate and even somewhat helpful maybe by chance you would like to be a builder or staff?
if so there should be apps on the main page as well
(im going to check xD to make sure)
-Sincerely Craft Kid (FR project Owner)
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you do need to add atleast +1 to your intelligence skill you cant have 0
also thanks for helping Tntmaster out