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Quote from Misa

Y'know, this idea has been a working feature of MCPatcher since mid-April... I've supported it in my pack since it first came out. I'm kinda surprised people still don't know about it at this point. Check the documentation on the MCPatcher thread under the information for texture pack authors. The random texture feature is under the CTM support (method=random). You can even give weights to the random textures so that some are more likely to randomly show up than others. Here's just a few examples of some of the stuff you can do with the feature:

Random textures on grass, tall grass, and flowers.


Random textures on stone bricks to make them look a bit less perfect.


Random mushrooms with a closer shot of some of the random stone bricks.


Random labeling on TNT blocks. (You can also use random textures to give fences unique art not shared with planks.)

All of the above screenshots were taken with only MCPatcher installed(no other mods), and my pack selected.

[url="http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1020295-random-textures-for-blocks-adds-more-variation-to-minecraft/"][img]http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/4730/wertyui.png[/img][/url]

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Edit: 7/5/2013: I hit the bandwidth limit on my photobucket. here is a link directly to it so yo can see the pictures.

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Edit: 6/23/2013: I just put ideas from my "Lets Talk About How We Can Improve Swamp Biomes. " thread at the Bottom of this thread. Im adding these This thread because I feel these Topics are similar enough to each other to not warrant two threads. If people don't like his Idea i will change it back, but until that happens please Discuss both Ocean and Spawn BIomes in this thread.


New edit: just added the thread " lets talk about how we can improve Swamp biomes" it is found here http://www.minecraft...e-swamp-biomes/ . please take a look if your would like.

Edit: please don't comment with Ideas from mods or other suggestion thread( unless the Op does it himself/ Herself or says its ok.)


Lets talk about how we can improve Ocean Biomes.

Minecraft Oceans are one of the many great wonders of minecraft. One of my favorite things in minecraft is a sunset on the open ocean, but once you start to explore the oceans you quickly find out that oceans are very boring and empty. I mean very rarely you will get a underwater ravine and inside they maybe a abandon mineshaft, but this is the extent of that can be found in this vast empty space.

Now don't get me wrong. I understand that Ocean are in real life very vast and open, but right now they are so barren that they feel lifeless. i mean all we get are the random Squid and mushroom Biomes.

So here is what I want to do. Lets discuss what we as a player base what we want to see in the Oceans. What you like about them. What your hate about them. Ideas for changes. After we get a lot of Ideas I'll make a thread in the suggestion forum with all the input and new Ideas.


My ideas will be in the post below this to start things off


Let the discussion begin!




Well I will start this thread off I guess.


1. Changes to Squid by:firesflame4

One of the easiest things I think should be changed is that unlike most other passive mobs Squid are not persistent( are able to despawn) and can not breed. If any of your were around for 1.5, you remember that Squid were one of the first mobs that were persistent. Since they did not despawn they were limited to 5 squid per chunk. In 1.6 this was changed to make squid like all other mobs at the time and also because people complained that squids were "hard to find". But now since All passive Mobs are persistent we should change Squid back to this. Next since Squid persistent I would like to be able to breed Squid, maybe using fish as its food to breed. Last i would like to add more uses for Ink. maybe Ink could be used in a sort of blindless Potion.


2. Addition of Shipwrecks and lighthouses by:firesflame4 and Others

Next I would like to see Ocean Biomes get their own unique Structure. I think the easiest Idea( and most thought of) would be a Ship Wreck. These could generate in Two places. On beaches / in water next to beaches and completely underwater. Ship wrecks on and near beaches would be only partially under water. these would also be partially buried in sand( run aground). Ones completely under water would be flooded inside and not buried as much. Inside the Ship Would be a Chest with loot inside of it. also maybe dispensers ( cannons) with fire charges inside of them. This would give a reason for the player to look for Islands and explore the bottom of the Ocean.



also people have also started they want abandon lighthouses as a structure

New lighthouse design

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light on



here is a photobucket gallery of a beached ship and also a lighthouse

http://s269.photobuc...!cpZZ2QQtppZZ24


3. Addition of Coral and Seaweed by:firesflame4

Coral has been something that has been talked about many times since minecraft has been around, but it has had many problems. The main problem Jeb has had with implementing it is that he isn't able to get one block to look like how diverse coral can be. The only solution i can think of to make Coral diverse is to a "Rock Entity"( Bases on ether Limestone or Smooth Stone) that Coral will Spawn and be able to grow on. This will allow for many type of Coral to be created in the game and not having to use a block to make all Coral. Also this will let Coral seem alive as since the Coral is " part of the entity" they could move "with the water". Also one of the Coral "Plants" could become the potion Ingredient for underwater breathing.

seaweed should also be added to all bodys of water


4. More water Mobs by:firesflame4

It has been Said many times they we need more water Mobs. We all know that fish are still wanted greatly, but I want to talk about other water mobs. Mobs that would Not only make the Ocean a easier Biome to start a world in( on a Island), but also add a feeling of life to the ocean.

A. Walrus

Just a Mob I feel would fit into the minecraft world and the Ocean Biome. This Passive Mob would be like the Pig/ Cow of the Ocean Biome. These mobs would spawn on Beaches or in 1 block high water neer beaches. They would enter and leave the water during the day randomly, but always leave the water at night. On land they would be slow and kinda clumsy. In water they would be much faster and more agile. This Mob would drop meat of some kind and its equivalent of leather. This mob would be persistent and Breed and lured only on land and by using raw fish.



added the difference between male walrus and female/ baby walrus


B. Kronosaurus

Edit: This idea has become every unpopular, but I'm still going to leave it here for funs sake.

Next on my List is a blast from the past. If your don't know that a Kronosaurus is take at look at its wiki here--> http://en.wikipedia....iki/Kronosaurus. I think that this would be a great neutral Persistent Mob for the Ocean. I feel like this should spawn by coral and ship wrecks and be limited to one- three naturally spawned per chunk. Like all neutral mabs if attacks they will attack you back, but it has other behaviors too. The first thing it will do is if you cast a fishing pole by were one is and you start to caught a fish it will "attack the fish" taking the fish and making the pole lose 25-50% of its durability. next, if you are in a boat ( moving or not moving) it swim up to the boat. If your are moving it will Swim alongside the Boat till you stop or it "gets bored". If you are not moving it will lift its head out of the water. If you don't have raw fish on you it will Swim away. if you do have fish on you it will want one. you can give it a fish my Right clicking it. This will stop it form attacking your fishing pole for a set amount of time. if you don't feed it a fish it will get mad( maybe on hard breaking your boat and attacking you). they can be lured with raw fish.



C. Whale
Sure this is not the most Original Idea, but I feel that this would make a great addition to Oceans. Whales Would be a Persistent passive Mob that would spawn in the open ocean. They would Spawn in groups of 2-6 and are limited to 6 a chunk. Whales stay together with there group( "pod"). Never going too far away from each other. overtime if there is less then 6 Whales in its Pod they will Breed until the Max amount of 6 is met. Whales only breed every 4-6 minecraft days and after they have eaten a Squid. A Pod of Whales consists of 4 adult whales and 2 babies. If there are already 4 adult whales in a Pod the baby whales will not grow up. Baby whales will only grow up if they are needed to for breeding. Whales have large amounts of health and take a long time to kill, but don't attack the player( they run). Whales drop 3-12 Meat( whale version of meat) and 3-12 Bones. the combined total will never go over 20 items.



D. Fish

Final I'm going to add how i think fish should be to the Op.

Fish have always been in minecraft as a item but never as a Mob. i feel that fish would Greatly improve Oceans by making them feel even more alive, but i want fish to not be one single mob.

my solution to this is to not only make 2 fish models but also make the models have multiple sizes and textures. The models( seen below) are 2 common styles of fish. The top one is the a more streamline fish body( pike, bass, koi, Ect,) while the bottom one is more Square shaped( angelfish, some goldfish, many tropocal fish). If we take these 2 models and not only change the sizes but also the textures, we can make a very diverse fish population.



Next I'm doing to address how fishing changes with the addition of fish. unlike how fishing works now. you will be catching the fish more itself instead of just getting the item. when you throw your bobber, Fish in the area will be attracted to it. Eventually the fish will take the bait. if you pull it our of the water then you will get un item called a "live fish" . If u do nothing to the fish for 1 minute it will turn into a Raw fish, but if you put a bucket of water and a "live fish" into your crafting table you will get a "fish in a Bucket". This is how you can keep fish Alive after you caught them. If you use the "fish in a Bucket on a water block it will place the fish that you caught into the water( and let it live as long as there is enough water for it to fit into). This fish will no longer Despawn and no longer go after bobbers. It can be picked back up if clicked with a bucket of water. If you place a "fish in a Bucket" into your crafting table it will get a "live fish" back along with a Empty bucket. If you kill a fish my bringing its health to 0 it will drop raw fish.

Models that could be made with small changed to Current models





also aded ideas for ray models



E. Snails. Many people. (model by me)

People have been saying that want snails so i made a model



They will be about the size of the bats of not a little smaller. found underwater/ on beaches. drop shells that can be made inso shell blocks

F.Sea Turtles: by me

Currently no uses ideas. please feel free to give me some



G.penguins: by me

only spawn in snow biomes that border Oceans

source of eggs in snowbiomes



H. Seagulls: model by me, idea by many people.

People would like to see a seagull as an aesthetic mob like bats.

so I made a model. if we really need to add a use. they ( like penguins) could be a source of eggs.



I.New Mob Size Charts.





J. Ocean Mob Interactions.

Like some of the land Mobs (Wolves & Sheep, Cats & Chickens. Villagers and Iron golems) Ocean mobs will have interactions with each other.

First I wil Explain the Mob food Chain.

Fish ---Eaten By----> Walrus
Fish ---Eaten By----> Squid ---Eaten By---->Whale
Fish ---Eaten By----> Kronosarus

Kronosaurs, Squid and Walruses( while in water) will hunt fish when that are able to bread. after "catching" a fish that will be put into "breeding mode". then they will bread with other mobs that that are in "breeding mode".

If a whale is able to bread it will Hunt Squid. After "catching" a Squid it will enter Breeding Mode and will breed with other Whales that are in "breeding Mode"

Squid, Walruses and Kronosaurus will not approach whales, but will now flee when one approaches them.

Fish will be drawn to Whales as they scare away the Mobs that eat them.

5. Underwater Terrein generation by: Metalwario, ghost_warlock, Spitzer, Sefirah and more.

From what I have been seeing people want changes in underwater Terrain generation. The first problem people are having a problem with is what the Ocean floor is made out of. It is very splotchy. and feel very patched together. also besides the random underwater ravines, underwater terrain itself is very boring. Things could be added here.

6. Volcano / tropical Island Biome by:Buzeebuzeesmap

But I think that waht should be added is Volcanic/ tropical Islands!

These would be humungous mountains of stone with lava spewing out the top, and the area sorrounding it would be much like the jungle biome. They contain tropical, which are a new tree with leaves that spread way out in spikes. There would be a new type of leaf, wich would appear to be made of spikes. The logs would look like jungle logs, but with bands of a slightly lighter color at the top and bottom. Palm trees would have a 20% chance of spawning with Bananas.

Bananas spawn in bunches which can drop 2-5 bananas on the side of tropical trees. Bananas would restore one hunger, with zero saturation.

I also think that there should be more islands. The islands would be made of sand and clay, and would be slightly dome-shaped. The islands would be covered in tropical.


7. kelp forests in Oceans By; Vermillion

Quote from Vermillion_44

my main idea, a seaweed, or more specifically kelp. Kelp would sort of be like underwater vines, only growing upwards. There would be two kinds of kelp- the common green kelp, which would do nothing other then block line of sight and occasionally release an air bubble, and red kelp, which would behave more like an underwater cobweb. Kelp would normally only grow four-six blocks from the sea floor, but within the kelp forest biome it would spawn in large quantities and be able to grow infinitely tall.