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Quote from DirtEaters12

Yeah... the fire recipe is VERY expensive but I just felt like making it

it's been a year and a half of supporting and discussing this suggestion, it no longer is a suggestion that i can claim as mine for it is an idea that was molded and cared for by so many people, this suggestion is an idea that belongs to the community and because of your help for the past year and a half, we have finally made a breakthrough...
Guys, WE DID IT!

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Quote from ChadGarion25

Redo how dyes are handled all together by giving cauldrons a purpose; making dye into a liquid form

• Cauldrons containing water can be right clicked with powdered dye to color the water (a tint of water won't require new block types)
• 3 objects can be dyed by right clicking the cauldron of dye whilst holding them. In this case, wool blocks, glass blocks, and glass panes (you can still take stained glass blocks of the same color and craft panes)

This solves the realistic problem with dying glass with a powder. It also gives Cauldrons a useful role. You can take the process further by being able to bottle dye from the cauldron but that would require potions to be stack-able and even though it's more efficient it's cumbersome to mass produce.

Here are some images that better explain the proccess:

Quote from neraphim

If i were to make any suggestions, i would recommend a simple refraction system. Like redstone only carries current 13 blocks or so, the glass panels could, if encased in non-opaque blocks, carry the light further than it would normally travel (like optic fibers). Additionally i would suggest colored redstone lamps, so that the color could be turned on and of at the switch of a button.

Common Questions:
I have received a lot of comments about glass blocks and changing light color causing too much lag or requiring an entire overhaul of the light engine MC currently has implemented. What people don’t fully understand is how MC lights work and where in-game lag actually comes from in videogames. I can't say I completely understand how exactly the MC lighting engine works as I have not seen the code, however it is briefly explained here: http://www.minecraft....net/wiki/Light if you have any better knowledge or sources that explains these points better, feel free to critique my points and share your insight on the topic.

"Why did you label the topic as 'original'? This isn't the first colored glass topic, you know..."
You are correct, this is not the first topic on colored glass, nor am I saying it is. The 'Original' tag in the title is referring to this topic and it's contents specifically. On several occasions, I came across my topic copied directly into Redit and other online blogs; without any sort of credit to the images and content. As the images in this topic were created from scratch by me, copying this topic would be considered art theft.
So to answer your question, the Colored Glass! topic is labeled as original because it is, the original.

Is it possible to change the color of the light?
Yes. Difficult, but possible. It used to be quite easy to light blocks with individual colors in early versions of Minecraft, but with the current light system this is no longer the case. It would require additions to the light system, the renderer, the map file format, and the network protocol. (A technical proposal can be found here, behind the cut.)
(question aswered by Nocte)

Will it cause lag?
Yes, unfortunately the addition of colored light will lower your frame rate. How much? This is hard to predict until someone actually tries it on a variety of hardware, but there's no reason to believe it will be anything drastic. It will also have an impact on memory use -- 64 KB per unpacked chunk to be precise. And of course the color information will have to go over the network somehow. If necessary, it would be possible to add an option to simply ignore the color information, and keep the current system where all block lights have the same yellowish color.
(question aswered by Nocte)

"Are there any Mods with Colored glass or colored light?":
Yes, there are some mods for colored glass and there are older mods that have colored light implemented into MC. Here are just a few of these projects:

• Kovu, a follower of this topic has been working on a colored light prototype. wheather he is doing it with the current minecraft engine or not is unclear but if it is, this proves that colored light is indeed possible with the current lighting engine. it may just need some performance updates. -_^

Discussion found here:
http://www.minecraft.../page__st__1900

• Nocte, one of the followers of this topic is very knowledgeable of what is going on behind all the gears and pendulums of Minecraft and has been working on this project. He may even tackle colored light. -_^

• CptSpaceToaster, one of the followers of this topic is currently working on a colored glass mod inspired by this topic and he is making big progress on colored light; proving that it is Indeed possible to do. You can watch his progress on his colored glass and light mod topics here:
http://www.minecraft...-colored-glass/
http://www.minecraft.../#entry24515141

• Here is a cool mod by Georqq that uses the same system suggested here; smelting colored sands to create colored glass, check it out!:
Colored sands into colored glass

• Here is an outstanding colored light mod that was in the works by theoneandonlyflexo check out his videos and his channel!
Video 1
Video 2

"I don't like colored sand because it would add too many new blocks to MC":
I added colored sand as an option for crafting colored glass because it would kills 2 birds with one stone. It would solve problems for people wanting colored glass and people wanting more color variations in standard blocks such as non-burnable, gravity, and stairs/slabs. The colored sand idea actually wouldn't require any new blocks or textures at all. The reason why, is because of how it could be programed. Much like how the biomes change the color of grass and leaves, both can wool and sand. Thus all blocks or future blocks that are craft able from sand or wool could be done in the same way; being colored entirely in code and decreasing the textures needed for the blocks. This solution would obviously require a change to how entities work but it would make way for limitless amount of colored items much like how leather armor works.

Now you may still be thinking, "well, that still doesn't fix the items being displayed in the inventory" actually it wouldn't be much of a problem since all of these items are just as hard to craft, having an inventory full of different colored sandstone blocks and the like, is only the fruits of your labors; having to collect dies, making cored sand and crafting them into stone. If what you are worrying about is the creative menu being overly crowded; this also wouldn't be a problem since the 1.3.1 update that added an improved creative mode inventory with
categorized tabs for various items/blocks and a search menu. If more colored blocks are added, they could simply just be added into to their own tab with would be extremely useful for pixel art artists and the like.

If you are still unsatisfied with colored sand being a step in creating of colored glass, we have discussed other options as colored sand is only a suggestion. Please look at "Cool Ideas by you guys" above for more information.

"Wouldn't it be easier to make colored glass by just combining it with dye like how you make wool?"
Easier yes, but wouldn't make much sense. Colored sand would mimic how real colored glass is created and it would open up more opportunities for new blocks using colored sand; including colored sandstone steps. Also, considering the "special properties" of colored glass, I believe it should be slightly harder to craft instead of simply adding color. with that said, I do not intend to say my crafting proposition is the best solution. In fact there have been many great alternative suggestions that have been made here. So keep thinking critically, innovate on existing ideas and give us some great suggestions!

"Has Mojang seen this?"
Yes, in fact we even heard back from Mojang on the topic; Nathan Adams also known as Dinnerbone from Mojang stressed that they have indeed been noticing the feedback on colored glass from the community. He also stated that colored glass is indeed possible and hinted that implementation of colored glass is not a "no"; which is exciting news.
Unfortunately, he also informed us that colored light is impossible on a large scale with the current lighting engine. However he also stated: "The lighting system is extremely broken and needs rewriting" this could mean that there is still a chance, if re-written, a new lighting engine may be able to support colored light. But this is uncertain.

The whole conversation can be found here:
https://twitter.com/...219652471980032

ChadGarion25 informed me of a tweet made by Dinnerbone on 25 Sep at 6:14 AM eastern time where dinner bone posted a comment that could be very promising for colored glass and colored light to be implemented into Minecraft!

Check it out!
https://twitter.com/...583946977497088

So basically what we can assume from all this is:

1) colored glass is very much possible in the current version of Minecraft; except it wouldn't allow other transparent textures to be seen through the glass (much how ice and water works in MC) and it would be difficult to ad a Z-buffer without having performance issues on slow platforms. This may not be much of an issue as most people will not have a reason to blend the colors of glass by stacking and though not completely transparent, it may look ok anyway. however I feel if a z buffer were added, perhaps there could be a toggle in video settings to turn off z-buffering for those who are playing on slower computers. Dinnerbone also hinted that the implementation of colored glass into vanilla is neither a yes or a no... so, I wouldn't give up on it just yet, guys. -_^

2) There are mods that have colored light implemented in versions of Minecraft before the adventure update. Check out theoneandonlyflexo for more info!

3) Yes Mojang has noticed this topic so there is no need to keep tweeting it to them as if they have never seen it.

[represent]

• Petroleum - Used to make plastic pellets, made by smelting dirt. Can also be used as furnace fuel, lasting 4 smelting cycles.
• Plastic Pellets - Used to make LEGO Blocks, made by placing Petroleum anywhere in the crafting grid.
• LEGO Blocks - Made by placing Plastic Pellets in a 2x2 configuration anywhere in a crafting grid.
• Brick Separator - Used to mine LEGO Blocks almost instantly, made by placing two plastic pellets diagonally anywhere in a crafting grid,

Dirt > Petroleum


Petroleum > Plastic Pellet


4 Plastic Pellets > 4 LEGO Blocks


2 Plastic Pellets > Brick Separator

A LEGO Block


Inside a house made of LEGO Blocks


Outside the house


A LEGO minifigure (my skin) happy that he is in his element

• Different colored LEGO Blocks, created by using dye in the crafting recipe.
• 3-D studs on LEGO Blocks.
• Different types of LEGO Blocks, such as half slabs.
• Make petroleum buckets act like buckets of liquid petroleum.
• Randomly generated petroleum pockets underground.

Quote from Taupo

Never understood all these people complaining about Facebook. It's a useful tool to communicate with people and there are some pages that post consistent witty content. If you don't like it:
A) Don't have a Facebook
Block the people you don't like, seriously, it takes like a couple of clicks
C) Unsubscribe people if you don't want to be rude and unfriend them but can't stand to see their crap
D) Unlike/hide all messages from pages posting random crappy links from off sites.
E) Don't visit Jesus Daily, you WILL lose faith in humanity
F) #Smoke weed erryday yoloswag 420

If you still have some kind of problem with it then tell me, I'm sure there's a simple solution.

[size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Q: How do I create a gun?
A: Run the GunCreator program either using the Run.bat file on Windows operating systems or using the command "java -jar GunCreator.jar" on other operating systems. When opened it should look like the image below:

Let's run down the options that you are able to play with when creating a gun with examples and explanations in (parentheses).[/font][/size]

• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Gun Name: The name of the gun. ("AK47", "M16", "Uzi", "UberSniper")[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Bullet damage: The number of half hearts of damage that the gun will do to an entity. (4 = 2 hearts of damage, 10 = 5 hearts of damage, etc.)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Bullet range: The range of the bullet; how far can the bullet travel before it receives diminishing returns on its damage [you can't snipe people for full damage with a pistol if the pistol's range is short]. (2000 would be a sniper rifle, 100 might be a pistol)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Bullet item ID: The item ID of the bullet for the gun. This must be a unique ID that will not conflict with other items [whether they be items from other mods or items from the original game] (2000, 4051, etc.)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Rounds per minute: The number of rounds the gun can shoot in one minute. Note that the maximum number of rounds the game can handle per minute is around 4200 rpm. (60 for a sniper, 420 for a machine gun, etc.)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Reload time (ms): The length of time it will take to reload the gun in milliseconds. (1000 = 1 second, 2500 = 2.5 seconds)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Gun Item ID: The item ID of the gun. This must be a unique ID [and different from the bullet ID[ that will not conflict with other items [whether they be items from other mods or item from the original game (see Bullet item ID examples)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Clip size: The number of rounds the gun can hold in it's clip; how many bullets a full gun can shoot before it needs to reload (30 for an assault rifle, 6 for a sniper rifle, etc.)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Recoil: The vertical recoil of the gun (I would suggest to not put any value here for now until I fully implement recoil)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Horizontal recoil: The horizontal recoil of the gun (see Recoil explanation)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Fire mode: The mode of firing that the gun uses. (Single = you must click once for each round fired, Automatic = you can hold down the mouse to continuously fire, Burst = you must click once for every fire of a burst of three rounds)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Scope type: The scope that the gun has when pressing the zoom key. (Sniper = a crosshair with reduced vision)[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Scope zoom: The factor that the scope zooms in by when pressing the zoom key. (1.0 = normal vision, 2.5 = 2.5x the vision of normal, etc.)[/font][/size]

[size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]There are three parts of creating a gun that require you to provide files. These files can be chosen by clicking on their respective buttons in the GunCreator GUI or by dragging and dropping the file from your operating system into the GunCreator GUI and onto their respective buttons. The buttons are:[/font][/size]

• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Gun icon: The large button in the center of GUI represents the icon that the gun will have ingame[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Bullet icon: The smaller button beneath the Gun icon button that represents the icon that the bullet for the gun will have ingame[/font][/size]
• [size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Shoot sound: The elongated button below the Bullet icon button that represents the sound that the gun will make when it is fired (.ogg file is suggested)[/font][/size]

[size=small][font=lucida sans unicode,lucida grande,sans-serif]Q: Where do I put my .GUN2 files?
A: Place the .GUN2 files in your ".../.minecraft/heuristix/guns/" directory.

Q: How do I zoom in (or use my scope)?
A: Press the "z" key.

Q: How do I reload?
A: Press the "r" key.

Q: Why is my game crashing when I __________?
A: Your game could be crashing for a variety of reasons. Most likely, there is some sort of error with the mod that will need to be fixed. Before posting, try reinstalling the mod in a fresh minecraft.jar. Make sure you are updated to the latest version. If that does not work, go to your ".../.minecraft/heuristix/" folder. Open the file called "log.txt". Then go to your ".../.minecraft/heuristix/guns/" folder. Open the file called "log.txt". Copy and paste both logs into a post on this thread so that I can see what is happening.

TheGunMod Client Version: <version_number>
GunCreator Version: <version_number>
Short Description of Error: <description>
Logs: