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This is besides the fact you can screw up the space/time continuum bla bla bla bla.

Basically, if you write yourself a note right now that says "Note to self: If I ever get my hands on a time machine I will travel back to 1/1/12 at 8:45 PM." (thats what itme it is where I live) and you put it in a safe place where you won't lose it, if you don't see your future self in that very instant, it either means you don't get to time travel or your safe place wasn't safe enough. :laugh.gif:

Quote from Smuck

It's been MONTHS since they were added.

Jesus christ some people are hopeless.

Wow, how rude. Some people have better things to do than check the Minecraft Wiki every 5 mintues. Some people even have a life (I sure wish I did).

Quote from WSFMigo

You guys who say buy the game screw off he doesnt have to. Also he might be in offline mode, i bet that didnt pop into your little thick skulls...

Lol, i like how everyone is like "HE DOESNT HAVE 2 BUY TEH GAME IF HE DOESNT WANT TO DUUURR"
Yes. To play minecraft legally you have to buy the game. Pirating the game is no longer a viable excuse to try it out because there is an official demo. But yes, he may be playing offline.

No.

EDIT: Ninjad

Try Raccallosjust like that, it IS EPIC

Updated OP: 9/3/12 (Modified OP explanations, thanks to getpoopedonkid // Fixed Poll)
Updated OP: 3/8/12 (Fixed Poll)

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NOTICE (As of Snapshot 12w01a):



This is an screenshot of the beach gen that was re-added in Snapshot 12w01a. Please note that this is not representative of the new beaches in general, but instead an example of what the new generation can create!

Jeb appears to have simply changed the blocks which form the transition between land and the ocean biome from dirt to sand. This forms ugly clumps of sand hardly resembling beaches on hilly terrain. This DOES NOT resemble actual beaches or beaches as they once were in Beta 1.7.3! Or reality for that matter.

What should be done to correct this:

• Simply limit the max height of sand that can generate to two to three blocks above sea level, which would be identical to beach generation prior to Beta 1.8. With beaches essentially being their own biome, such a change should feasibly be easy since it shouldn't conflict with other biomes. If you believe otherwise, please state so and why!

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OP:

With the inclusion of the new terrain generation in recent releases, I've read about many major topics and comments having to do with terrible biome transitions involving the swamp biome and the such. However I have not seen any real topics concerning the exclusion of beaches and the issues concerning underwater bedding. So here is the point of this topic:

Summary:

1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and it needs to be restored.

This should be simple enough. Just add back beaches into the terrain generator. Also gravel beaches should be returned as well. More on that later in the topic.

2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.

The main argument against the current underwater bedding generation is that allows for easy access to large amounts of clay, and that clay was supposedly more rare in the previous generator. However, it was abundant, since the x=z clay generator bug that previously plagued the game was patched in 1.7.

However, to further address this issue, clay density and frequency can be increased to satisfy those who believe that more clay truly is necessary.[/indent]

The poor state of these aspects of the terrain generator has proven to be both an annoyance and an eyesore to me and the community as well. Beach gen prior to 1.8 paralleled realistic beaches and was more aesthetically pleasing in general. To further elaborate what I mean:

Beaches, prior 1.8

"Beaches" (along lakeside), 1.8 and later

Beaches, real life

As you can see, beaches do not actually generate in 1.8 and later, the "beaches" you see are actually not beaches at all; they are simply the outcroppings of the underwater sand bedding crossing onto the shore. This brings me to the next point: underwater bedding.

Underwater bedding (same pic as before, view the underwater portion), prior 1.8

Underwater bedding, 1.8 and later

Underwater bedding, comparison with 1.8 vs. 1.7, and real life (Borrowed from Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining)

As you can see, in 1.8 and later, underwater bedding consists of ugly patches of circular splotches, whether it be in a lake or an ocean. Previously, it was both aesthetically appealing and realistic. Clay would still be fairly abundant if the patch from 1.7 were also incorporated into clay generation. If that is not enough, we can simply have clay generated in the same manner as depicted in the picture below in higher frequencies or larger quantities:

Lastly, gravel beaches should be added back. It was a realistic feature of the old terrain generator and also broke up the monotony with the constant sand beaches. It is not a necessary feature to be re-added, though it would be nice.

Gravel Beaches, 1.7 and before

Gravel Beaches, real life

To reiterate:

1.) Beaches was a widely-liked feature of the previous terrain generator and so, needs to be fixed.

2.) Although a less important issue, underwater bedding, lacks the uniformity and overall realism that it used to have. Currently, lakes and oceans are covered in splotchy patches of dirt, sand, and clay.

With this said and done, I ask that these issues be addressed as soon as it is possible. If you can, please twitter or e-mail Jeb. This is technically not meant to be a petition or anything like the very popular Dear Mojang: The Swamps are Still Ugly topic, just a reminder to show that these issues must be addressed. However, you can show your support by twittering Jeb (+ link to here) or just acknowledging it here.

Tweet Jeb at: https://twitter.com/#!/jeb_

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Get Satisfaction Topic: http://www.getsatisf..._gravel_beaches

Also check out Dragonid's Terrain Generation Changes Remaining topic for an in-depth look at issues concerning current terrain generation!

Try out a mod that adds beach generation back into the game! http://www.minecraft...0-biome-mod-v1/

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There's no such thing as a mistake developing something.
Only lessons or improvements.
Right now, improvements are to be made. How thing are now is a step in development...

Villagers are useless now but think from a development point of view: we have something to improve on.
If there were no villagers, you would be complaining about how there isn't enough substance in the game.

This belongs in the suggestions forum. Suggest what the villagers should DO or ACT instead of saying they're useless.

At-at mountain?

Was playing on my survival server just exploring when I came across this:



Co-ordinates
X: 1391
Y: 67
Z: 236

Version: 1.8.1
Seed: -6239987023235416999

Sir Steve McBlock of Minecraftia.

Jobs

i have the bird screaming sounds waterfall cave chimes and ocean O.O
EDIT: i only have tmi and zombe fly mod so its not a mod sound

i made a grave saying R.I.P. puppeh the puppy

Thats what we call a win <3