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I have an idea that incorporates steampunk into the frost dimension without messing the natural beauty or theme.
The music should probably be something light and mystical. Perhaps these instruments, , playing a remix of classic minecraft music? Anyway, the music would be common throughout the dimension to reinforce the beauty of the natural world.
But every now and then, you would find a different island filling the gap in the floating islands (are we going with floating islands?). These would be Steampunk Stations (name WIP). These giant, dark, structures would greatly contrast the bright frosty world it surrounds. The closest thing I could find to what I'm thinking.
Inside the huge stations would be a labyrinth of passages, filled with evil robots and useful gadgets. To differiante it further from the rest of the dimension, these dungeons would have its own, drum heavy music, resembling this.
Thoughts? I feel that this might be the best way to add the two most popular suggestions so far into the dimension while keeping a cohesive theme.
EDIT: Well I guess text video links don't work.

I'm gonna leave now. I have a few reasons for this:

1. MASTERMINED IS LEAVING That's a huge bummer, but that's not why I want to leave.

1. Posting feels like a chore. Even this.

2. My favorite forum, Suggestions, has become trash, and the Suggestions I put effort it get virtually no recognition. There's so much junk and people care so little for the rules that threads are constantly locked. And to even get a chance for a remotely popular suggestion, you have to 1. make it impeccably detailed and in-depth, or 2. make it disgustingly terrible and exploit people's anger to get replies. I'm not doing either of those things.

3. I don't need the articles, I can just follow all the Mojang devs on Twitter.

Bye y'all. Don't manipulate negative groupthink attitudes to maximize your thread popularity on the Suggestions forum!

The 3rd paragraph provides a intelligent and sensible solution to the problem of tools barely getting XP. But what axe/shovel blocks specifically give XP?

Support.

Here are some more for the sword:

This sword could break obsidian clean in half in its heyday.

This was pulled from a moss stone boulder.

A tool that $@?#%+£ once used on... expeditions.

"Sharpen a stick real well 'n it'll do ya more good."

"Oh, THAT button means throw!"

"I'll just store this away while I investigate those strange, dim tunnels I've seen lately..."

Really great way to satisfy everyone. Support!

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A first poster who puts extreme detail in his idea? Is... Is this a dream?

Yes, it is. Go back to sleep and you'll see the post actually looks like this:

"yoyoyo waszup guyss???? i want moar powrefull armoar tan dimand mozang y isnt vis in game?!?! badreck armoare is inviensible frum EVREIYFING and it's a common drop from pigs"

OT: Like Genius_idiot, i think the armor shouldn't be immune to certain damage, but near immune (90%-95%). I changed my mind on this, since bedrock armor is extremely rare. It would be cool if the end bunker emitted gray particles, but once you've opened a chest inside, the particles disappear and the bunker becomes destructible.

But this is an amazing suggestion with lots of effort poured into it. Proper spelling & grammar, well thought out content, sensible polls, good formatting, understandable images, custom structures that you actually built, links to essential information... and LOOT TABLES?! Wow!

If we can't have a Suggestions Guide, pin this to the front as THE example suggestion. This thread has earned you an extra follower.

It's not the critic's job to add the finishing details. If it worked like that, a suggestion only containing the words "add guns" would be considered valid.

But I do agree that specifics aren't the point of the post: they're half of it. Good suggestions are a balance of concept and execution (AKA the specifics). This suggestion as it is might as well be considered half-finished.

Since no one knows any specific attributes of this structure other than vague generalizations (hard to get, limited, etc.), it's gonna be difficult for a lot of people to support, including myself.

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Other versions are irrelevant to this discussion, because we are talking about an update to the Java edition only.

I doubt that Mr. Persson is aware that textures are changing; he's probably too busy watching Prisoner: Cell Block H. He has 2.5 billion reasons not to care.

Yes. Yep yeah sí Dinnerbone just wants to screw us all over. Further expanding on Minecraft's possibilities with more INFINITE block IDs is obviously a big "SCREW YOU" to the entire community.

100% SUPPORT

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Your idea about coral is interesting, though it doesn't go with my original vision. Most of the game mechanics I have suggested have come from real life. My vision was for it to be an aesthetic block that was valuable.

I like the life-sized vex thing. Maybe as a new mob, specific to the cursed shipwreck? I know what to call it: Sea Specter and Sea Specter Captain. I was going to have a new mob for the shipwrecks, but decided against it since I have already put a lot of new mobs in the post. I will for sure reconsider though.

The blindness thing seems a little too much like Ocean Temples (it's giving an effect to the player). I'll add more images (including the wood) soon (today, tomorrow or the day after). The leiomano, like I said, would do as much damage as the stone axe. As of the 1.9 update, that is 4.5 hearts of damage, which is more than a diamond sword. It would have a higher attack speed than the stone axe, and it would end up doing 12 damage per second. I know I didn't include that in the post, but that would have it end up doing more damage per second than the diamond sword. I will be sure and update the post.

The sailor's hat doesn't always drop, so it was supposed to be a simple little aesthetics item you could wear. I'd be open to a use to it, as long as it makes sense and is useful. Part 3 will have some more things to do with Villagers. I won't says what the topic will be, but I think some people will not like it. The enchantment idea could also work, but I'm less open to new enchantments since almost every upgrade in the game is based on them. Maybe a new drop from the Sea Spectre Captain could replicate this in a non-enchantment form.

I was originally going to have dolphins in the post, but I couldn't think of a use for them other than being there. Thank you for your feedback! I really appreciate it.

I have a few suggestions to add interest/usability to the proposed features, along with some questions:

1. Coral doesn't do any damage. This is mainly to justify my next suggestion:

2. Water treats coral like air; it doesn't collide at all. It becomes soaked when water is inside of it. Useful for scaffolding around water (hence suggestion 1), and the water isn't supposed to flow everywhere.

3. I think the undead sailor would be cool with a life-sized vex feel to it. Perhaps they float around in their ships and curse you with Blindness?

4. The shipwrecks should possibly contain a treasure enchantment that makes melee weapons deal more damage to aquatic mobs.

5. A new wood should be justified with a unique color. Could you provide an image of the shade you're thinking of? (bark and plank)

6. The treasure chest should have something worthwhile. I had this idea for a while about a new item: the totem of reversal (a blue totem of undying). Your location 3 seconds in the past is always recorded when holding, shown with a blue ghost. When you use the totem, you travel to that spot (and gain the effects of the totem, but with less power). You retain the stats you had upon the totem's usage.

7. The sailor's hat should have more purpose. Maybe as an antique item to Villagers?

8. Coconut milk isn't needed. A coconut to the head could give Nausea for 1-2 seconds.

9. What does the leiomano do? It seems useless once you have a stone sword (which you should by the time you get it).

That's all I have. What could be in Part 3?

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EDIT: Part 2 is out. Here it is: click here.

Introduction

Hello! I have decided to start a series of suggestions all about improving the ocean. There will be three parts, and this is of course the first one. This part will be all about how oceans are generated in the world and how ocean generation could be improved.

Technicalities

As of now, oceans are pretty much just big lakes. If you look at maps of Minecraft world generation, such as this one, you can see how small oceans really are right now. Now, this change was made due to oceans being too large–but that doesn't mean oceans can't be a little large. Oceans used to go on for tens of thousands of blocks, and sometimes even more than that. However, as you can see in the picture from the Mojang website, oceans got really small and are basically lakes. Just because oceans used to be too big, doesn't mean we have to have them extremely small.

I propose a rework to how ocean and land is generated. Instead of having this current system where land dominates everything, I propose we have large chunks of land (continents) be separated by large oceans. Of course, I think there should be an option in the world creation menu to control the size of oceans- allowing people to have oceans as small as they are now, as big as they used to be, or the new medium that I am suggesting. Of course, the medium/in-between size that I am suggesting would be the new default, as I think it has the best balance.

In addition to this, I think islands should get a rework, too. As of now, islands are very small. I think we should keep the current small island size as a rare thing, but most islands should be of decent size. I'm not quite sure how large yet, but definitely large enough for it to make sense that animals would be there. Islands should also mostly be jungle and/or tropical palm tree biomes, but more on that in Part 2.

How large should oceans be? I would say large enough so that there is always a point where you can look around and only see ocean. I mean, seriously, you shouldn't be able to see the mainland or another island while on an island. Plus, marooning other players would be a lot more effective (that was a joke). Since your render distance can be to 32 chunks, each ocean would have to be a little over 1000 blocks long. However, I think this should be increased a bit, so that there is more than one block where you can stand and only see ocean. I'm thinking a 1500 to 2500 block distance between continents, with a few islands sprinkled around, and some areas where a lot of islands are sprinkled around. The continents would be at least 3000 blocks long, so don't worry about there being too much ocean. If you think these numbers should change, please let me know.

Benefits

This change would allow for improved exploring and more opportunities for rare structures on islands or at the bottom of the ocean. Having ocean expeditions as a form of exploration would add a lot to the exploration side of the game that Mojang seems to be taking Minecraft to. Players would be encouraged to travel long distances to other continents after exploring the entire continent they spawned on. Again, I will talk more about the ocean content (what's in the ocean) in Part 2.

"But How Would I Traverse These Large Oceans?"

Well, for starters, current boats would be renamed to "rowboat." Then, there would be a new kind of boat called the "sailboat." It would be crafted like this:

Alternatively, you could use the following recipe:

Don't freak out. It wouldn't be much bigger than the rowboat. The closest thing I have found to what I'm thinking of is this:

Image from a video by the YouTuber CaptainSparklez

(Note: If you use the second recipe, the sail will have the pattern of the banner you used.)

It wouldn't have the ropes, or lamp, but other than that, this is pretty much how the sailboat would look. After you place it down, you would be able to put a single chest on it just like you can with a donkey. When you sail it, it would start out around half the speed of the rowboat, and gradually increase to around 1.5 times the speed of the rowboat within 10-15 seconds. Note that the sailboat would also be harder to steer; it would turn at one third the speed of the rowboat, giving rowboats a maneuverability advantage.

The player would be standing when operating the boat, and the sail and tiller would turn as you turn the boat. There would be a maximum of two players per sailboat, and the first person to hop in would be the one that can turn the sailboat. You wouldn't have to hold down the w key since it is powered by sails and not paddles.

Support Banner

I've seen other suggestions have support banners, so I made one for this using textcraft.net.

Here is the image code:

<a href="https://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/minecraft-java-edition/suggestions/2851073-ocean-improvements-part-1-3-world-generation"><img src="https://i.imgur.com/Ai6oKt6.png"/></a>

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i've got the boss of the frost dimension got it from thor's movie

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Very interesting. I think we should take design ideas from all sorts of things, as it would give the dimension a unique feel. For example, we could implement a therapod-style mob (yes, I really want that dinosaur) in, but other things don't have to be too related. As long as everything fits one overall theme, we can make the different features as unique as we want.

ok, if we have giants, what if we had Yutyrannus (feathered T-rexes that lived in artic regions) that spawned in the wild, but giants could keep packs of them as battle mounts?

Regarding the giant/rainbow thing, I think we should definitely come up with a unique entrance to the dimension. If we are to use this method or a similar one, I think the giant should be found in very tall ice mountains. This would make for an adventurous setting of the dimension entrance. What would the giant look like, though? Obviously it shouldn't look like the normal giant, as it is just an enlarged zombie. Another possible entrance to the dimension could involve running down a frozen cave system (found in some frost-style biome) to a gateway of some sort. If we wanted to incorporate some space elements into the entrance of the dimension we could do that as well. How, I'm not sure, but this could definitely be interesting. I do definitely think that we should keep this dimension outside of the normal progression system, though, as having it come straight after the Nether of straight after the End would be boring and feel sort of forced. As mentioned before, an "optional" kind of dimension would add to the sandbox feel of the game, too.

for the giants appearance, I was thinking a humanoid around 5-10 blocks tall with a pale blue skin, light cyan eyes, and beards made of ice. we could have the giant spawn at the end, and in some ways, you're shooting the rainbow into space to get to the dimension

I have an interesting concept to bring to the potential dungeons of this dimension. We've discussed making them steampunk-themed, and I'm all on board with that. What if we had the dangers in the dungeon be a mixture of mobs and traps? It would make it both unique and more interesting than other dungeons that are already in the game. For example, there could be some sort of evil mechanic that causes dispensers (or other machines) to fire projectiles at you.

yeah, if i'm being honest, i'm not sure entirely how steampunk fits into a frost dimension, but we can figure that out

One last thing: When making the dungeons, we should consider how we're going to make them "evil." I think there should be some sort of indication that the things in the dungeon are the bad guys, and not the player, as otherwise it's basically just the player intruding on their building, which is pretty mean of Steve to do.

not sure, maybe just make it really intimidating looking

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When did we every agree on floating islands and cracks in the ground?

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The 3rd paragraph provides a intelligent and sensible solution to the problem of tools barely getting XP. But what axe/shovel blocks specifically give XP?

Support.

What if drinking a water bottle could give you the buff "Hydrated" for 3-5 seconds which would increase eating speed by 5-10% and eating hunger points by 1? It will give water bottles a use besides potions.

The hunger system, as of now, is completely unbalanced. Steak, Pork, Bread, and Golden Carrots (if you're rich) are the objectively best foods. This is a problem, because there are 19 separate food items in Minecraft, excluding the golden food and uncooked food. The hunger bar also provides no extra challenge to the game except *sometimes* on the first day. Food is very easy to get. Hence, I propose some changes and additions to the hunger system.

1. Give pigs back their usefulness. This is a sub-problem of that mentioned above. It is my understanding that pigs drop less meat than cows, and cows can also more easily be bred, rendering our beloved piggies useless. Yes, there is pig-riding, but that is practically a joke. On top of this, cows drop leather too, making them even more useful, as leather is required to make bookshelves, which are required for level 30 enchantments.

How do I propose we give them back their usefulness? Well, first of all, make them drop more meat than cows. I personally think the chances of cow dropping leather should be swapped with the chances of them dropping meat. This would make leather armor a little more practical, and also give pigs and edge in the food business. Another way to go about this would be to make pigs have multiple offspring at once, as others have suggested.

2. Make some foods take longer to eat than others. I am not the first to suggest this idea, but I think this would add more of a balance to the current food mechanics. Melons and cookies could be eaten slightly faster, making them something players might take in a boss fight so they can regenerate quickly. Bread could be eaten a little faster than steak, and steak could be eaten a little faster than pork. This could, of course, also be applied to the other foods. This change would give players a choice, instead of having a linear, "This is better than that." system.

3. Bring soups/stews more power. I believe this idea is quite balanced and would make people actually use Mushroom Stew, Rabbit Stew, and Beetroot Soup. These would now restore at least 10 hunger points (5 shanks) each, and would provide more saturation than any other food in the game. On top of that, you would get a "Well Fed" buff (with a different name) that would make the player regenerate health faster. To balance this, soups would take twice as long to eat as current minecraft food does.

Imagine: You are in early to mid-game, and you come out of a cave far away from your house. All of a sudden you turn and see a creeper. You get as far away as possible, but it still explodes. You are alive, but very low on heath. You see your house and make a run for it. You get hit by skeletons, but you're still barely alive. You make it to the front door of your house. There is a zombie. Reacting quickly, you knock it back with your shovel. You go inside and close your door, get your Rabbit Stew from your chest, and eat it. You sit there and wait to regenerate your health until morning.

Now, I know that was a little dramatic, but hear me out: soups/stews could actually have a use. Even though they can't stack. You might also eat soup or stew if you're planning an expedition so that you don't have to eat for a little bit.

4a. Give a reason to eat different food. Even with all of these changes, I think the system should still give players a reason to have diversity in what they eat. There is a mod that does this, called The Spice of Life, but I don't really like its method. Instead of restoring less hunger points, I think the amount of saturation you gain from food should decrease overtime until you eat a different kind of food. This would mean you could survive off of one kind of food, but that it would be better to eat something different every once in a while.

4b. Make food harder to get. Food is, at the moment, extremely easy to get. What is the solution? Well, first let's address grass. There is a lot of it. If I am correct, there wasn't originally as much grass as there is now. Maybe seeds should be less of a common drop from grass, meaning you would start out with only growing 8 or 9 seeds and use the extra seeds you get to work your way up to growing 64 crops at once. Another thing could be making animals require anywhere from 1 to 7 of a crop to enter love-mode. Mobs could also drop less meat (except for pigs), as they drop a lot right now. Things like melons, cookies, carrots, beetroot, and potatoes don't really need to be harder to get, as they aren't very good foods. This kind of solves point 4a, because if food was harder to get, you would want to take every opportunity you had, and therefore already have a reason to eat more than just one kind of food.

5. Display Saturation. This is probably the lowest on priority, but I think this would be a good edition. Many propose a yellow outline to the hunger shanks to show how much saturation you have left. However, I have a different idea: changing the color of the hunger bar. If you had full saturation, your hunger bar would look a little more yellow/gold than it is now. The less saturation points you have left, the less yellow or gold it looks. The current color of hunger shanks would be equivalent to about 15 (out of 20) saturation points. If you had less saturation points than this, the hunger bar would look darker and darker.

Here is a screenshot of The Spice of Life mod, which has a yellow outline to show saturation:

Well, that's it. I know this was a long post, but I wanted to make sure I gave a reasonable and balanced suggestion. Keep in mind that all of this would most likely be dependent on the difficulty you have the game set on. Please tell me what you think and how I could improve this suggestion.

Okay, I know I'm replying kind of late, but:

I like the end island idea. Since the end has some weird underwater-ish theme (chorus plant = coral / seaweed, shulker = clam, end ship = sunken ship) what if there was some sort of connection from the bottom of the ocean to the end dimension? It's definitely an odd idea, but nonetheless intriguing.