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Quote from Santiago3

Non-weapons so far! From left to right:
MRE, empty alchemy jar, jar of tomato preserves (bread replacement), tomatoes (wheat replacement), can of Yum Chow! and it's empty variant (soup and soup bowl), and then the bloated can of rotted food (zombie parts replacement).

Just a funny little idea I had, but couldn't you make it so the little smiley face on the can turned into a frowny face when it's empty? It would just be an interesting little easter egg.

Quote from Santiago3

I don't mind a bit!

Seeing as you're bringing us such wonderful gifts, does this mean we get to call you Santi Claus? :biggrin.gif:

Quote from Lol60nine!

Cant.. tell if trolling.. or .. just retarded..

I wasn't aware there was a difference.

Guys, the Enderdragon destroys blocks yes, but a minecart is an entity, and the Enderdragon does nothing to entities. And also, to get a mob into a minecart the two have to collide while the minecart is moving. So, theoretically yes, if you could get a set up where you had a line of rails above the dragon, and sent the cart down it and over the edge, then if timed right the cart could collide with the Enerdragon.

I honestly prefer Jeb, Notch seems like a good coder, but his ideas started to affect the way some popular mods could function. I agree with Jeb that a mod API should be the main focus, because it takes the idea of a sandbox game to a whole new level in that you can change the game itself, not just the world within the game.

However, it's impossible to get rid of haters, and according to Jeb the mod API isn't going to be done until at least March, but of course people don't understand how difficult it can be and will start asking why it isn't done yet.

Quote from Santiago3

Wow!! Thank you very very much for all the kind praise! This literally made my morning! I'm glad you get the type of dystopian hellscape I'm going for. Subtlety is the key to horror, after all :wink.gif:!

Well I'm glad I made your morning, I like making people happy. On a side note, this pack reminded me of a small game I played recently called The Day by Gregory Weir, he makes a lot of games with multiple endings but this one only has two. I highly suggest playing the card game before going into the trees though, and when you're through with that read the developer's notes on the main menu, you'll see why it reminded me of this pack.

On yet another side note, I'm reconsidering just leaving this pack for the map makers and taking it up myself, sort of to make a prequel to my Last Days world because I like working with packs that have alternate wool styles and with something as amazing as this I could probably creep some people out in a very serious way.

Quote from dabicloud

Blaze rods could probably be radioactive rods Or something

I was thinking something a bit more involved that just a random radioactive material. For instance, helium-3 because it's a key componet in fusion reactors and the moon is supposed to be rich in helium-3 and the blaze could be robots programmed to gather it and refine it by spinning it around at high speeds, removing the impurities. However they could also be outfitted with a defense system to take down anyone trying to infiltrate the lab (nether fortress) or steal the helium-3. Upon obtaining a rod of helium-3 though, the player could use it in the construction of a distilling stand, whereby they could use the small but ever present energy generated by the rod to react certain substances down into a form where they could mix with water. If taken and crushed into a powder though, the powder could be used in the same distilling process as an ingredient itself, where it's own innate energy would cause the water to take on qualities of a steroid, increasing the drinker's strength temporarily. If the powder were mixed with a portion of insulating slime and distilled, it would allow the drinker to traverse radioactive waste safely by creating a forcefield that would take incoming particles and fuse them together into heavier, non-penetrating particles while the slime protected the drinker from the intense heat given off by the waste. Lastly, if powdered helium-3 were injected into one of the devices worn by the so called "endermen", it would essentially activate the device as well as giving it a target. As "The End" is located on one of the remaining chunks of the moon in orbit, the device would take the helium-3 and actively try and seek out more of it. If released, the device would attempt to locate a gateway to "The End" and hover towards it phasing through solid matter if needed. If a player were the one to obtain this device though, they could re-program it to only hover a short distance before disengaging and falling to the ground where it could be retrieved and reactivated. Unless the player is a master programmer though it is unlikely they will be able to fully disengage the emergency teleport system in the device whereby the "endermen" teleport if in presence of a threat and the device would be liable to spontaneously teleport directly to "The End" instead of using the gateway. If a player manages to locate a gateway however they would be able to use multiple of these devices to provide power to the gateway and enable travel to "The End".

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Whoa...
...I did not expect that to turn out as long as it did, but it would seem that I do like explaining things. I hope this can help with the lore but I was worried about tossing another idea into the pot when it seems that we're finally rolling.

Quote from RakeCraft

I don't think the boss battle being in The End is a problem.

The problem is that Minecraft now has a boss battle.

I would agree with you, except for one pattern I've noticed. Whenever Notch announces some new feature, a lot of people go white in the face becauses it changes some core gameplay aspect or it just doesn't seem like 'Minecraft'.

I've had this too, shears I had a problem with, (You need iron just to get wool!?) but then it was revealed that killed sheep dropped wool, maybe only one block but it made up for it.

Endermen I had a problem with as well, well actually, I was part of the group that wanted the name changed to farlanders, but after a while the name grew on me and now I can't imagine calling them anything but endermen.

I have a feeling this boss battle will be one of those cases. Everyone is flipping out because the words 'boss battle' scream 'endgame!' which just doesn't fit with a sandbox game, but Notch is probably going to reveal some other aspect of it that prevents it from truly being the end.

But there's one thing people always seem to forget, the fact that Minecraft is indeed a sandbox game, and by definition in a sandbox game you can do whatever you want. I'm the type that likes a goal, before I really got into the spirit of building things I always considered getting the the Nether to be the 'endgame' because there's no higher tier, and after that I got bored and started a new world. But no one is forcing you to conform to a storyline, they're just improving the gameplay for those types who like having goals.

Crap, Simon's going to go insane when he sees this.

I do hope this doesn't take up much of Notch's time for working on the rest of 1.9, I mean it's nice, but the full release of Minecraft is creeping up on us and this doesn't seem all that game-changing.

Quote from thekillman

i don't know how Risugami does it, but he updates it so insanely fast, he probably is a master of the piece of code he needs and can easily figure out the code change.

i don't think Modloader does that huge a thing to the Minecraft Code, though it has enormous consequences for the mods we can add.

Risugami is one of a few modders that, to my knowledge, works straight with the obfuscated code. Hence why he doesn't need MCP.

I have a great deal of respect for that, even if I think it's a little nuts :smile.gif:

Quote from MegamanBlue9

When the mod updates for 1.1 can you or someone make a mod to allow people to use mods like
RedPower 2, IndustrialCraft 2, Equivalent Exchange and Railcraft with Better than wolves and i don't care if you and eloraam are imcompatible with one another get over it.

No. Get over wanting it.

Quote from vietduong128

can you make this compatible with too many items? i need it if i'm gonna build a city

Herp derp creative.

Quote from Gojira

This is already done in the form of Aether, methinks.

Someone can read -.-

Quote from Infinity2000

*** The Mod That is Incompatible With Everything!!!(*) ***

(*) Except BuildCraft With Better Then BuildCraft installed

when you say that do you mean there are 0 mods (Except BuildCraft With Better Then BuildCraft installed) that are compadable with this mod, or do you mean like 99.9% of all mods are not compatible? if so i hope you can fix this when the api comes out!* (* i have no idea what the api is)

When I say that, what I really mean is: "stop bugging me about %*#(*%#$% compatibility and figure it out yourself".

Quote from elrond1369

BTW is not Happy Fun Time and it wont be until you stop intentionally making it incompatible with everything else.
just like you intentionally do that i will intentionally tell a search engine NOT better than wolfs
If you want to make your own stand-alone then make your own video game but don't make a mod for Minecraft a stand-alone

What the **** does this even mean?

Quote from elrond1369

BTW is not Happy Fun Time

BTW is sooooo Happy Fun Time. Independent surveys and analysis by large wall-street firms all unanimously indicate that BTW is the closest thing to Happy Fun Time since Happy Fun Time itself.

You obviously don't know what you're talking about. There's no arguing against proven and documented scientific fact.

I'm not supporting this just because of the grammatical errors.

I don't see why you think this would work. Mojang could care less about griefers, and it would be unfair to take someones account away and block their ip after they have spent money on the game, let alone illegal. If you don't like griefers, play singleplayer. Otherwise play on a server with a whitelist, and the best you can do is tell admins when you've been griefed.

Hehe...here we go...

Quote from power crystals

The original problem was not the structure of the code. It was fine, and that was a legit way to avoid dealing with adding a block ID. Whatever. Nobody cares about that. The problem is that you incorrectly assumed that the instance of the hibachi or whatever would never be null, when disabling your mod would in fact make it null. And you didn't even have to have any of the things in the world for it to crash, any fire anywhere would first check for a hibachi and then immediately die because it couldn't pull the block ID due to a NPE.

BTW modifies base-classes, and it is NOT intended to be used in mod packs. If you want to uninstall BTW, the method to do so is to delete your bin directory and start with a clean .jar.

I don't support the ModLoader functionality of either installing by dropping the .zip into your mods directory, or of disabling the mod through ModLoader itself. That's not a question of poor coding, that's simply a design decision not to support that kind of functionality, which is only of particular interest to people like you trying to use the mod in a way that was never intended, or allowed, or supported.

Quote from power crystals »

Now for some reason people have taken this minor (albeit fairly stupid) error as the reason the mod was excluded from Technic. That's not why it was, though it didn't help its case - it was removed because nobody wanted the thing. If that lone bug was the deciding factor I would have just patched it myself, it's not like I didn't clean up other modders' messes along the way too.

When this mod is used in combination with all the random ones you throw into the pack, that is no wonder, and I have never denied the above point either. I was specifically addressing a post that was claiming the code itself was the reason why it wasn't in the pack.

Practically every other tech-mod you've included in Technic has more powerful functionality designed to do similar things to what BTW does. That doesn't make it better...just more powerful.

There are plenty of people that DON'T want that kind of gameplay man. Plenty that appreciate actual gameplay progression that stems from vanilla Minecraft rather than just random features slapped together with no relation to each other.

That is why Better Than Wolves has been one of the most popular mods around (if not the most popular) for months now, and despite the many claims of your group, that popularity hasn't diminished in the least as of late. It's actually a gameplay experience rather than a way to provide such powerful functionality that the player himself becomes irrelevant in the equation.

If your players don't want BTW, that's awesome, because I really don't want to have to run support for the kind of players your mod-pack attracts anyways, nor do I want to entertain the kind of "Hurr Durr...give me a 'win game' button" suggestions they tend to make either.

Whatever the reasons for why you dropped BTW, my primary response remains the same: "YAY!"

EDIT: BTW guys, I really love how you all descend on this thread in a small gang. Let's see...we have 'Power Crystals', 'IamSpacedad", "TekKrush' and 'KakerMix' himself all browsing the thread at once, yet you keep leaving looking like complete asses every time you do. You really do earn the nickname "Goons", but I strongly suggest you stick to your own forums where I can't respond, as you do much better when there's no one around to contradict your distorted version of "the facts".