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    posted a message on Need a computer that can run OptiFine HELP!
    Quote from Mallowpuffs»

    1. Better.


    2. Better, but if you want something out of personal taste, just pick one.


    3. Actually, unless you're going to use the mail in rebate which no one does, you only save less than 5$.


    4. If you really want to get the 4590 go ahead. But if I'm not mistaken you'll get 1-3% better performance over the 4460.


    5. Better.



    Looks good, and


    1. No. No need to get anything better than the stock cooler if you're not overclocking.


    2. If you want to be able to use CDs/DVDs.


    Stock Coolers are quite loud though :/

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    posted a message on Computer that can handle minecraft with shaders and mods
    Quote from XxRumble_BeexX»

    hmm...im looking for a computer with 8gb ram, so can u downgrade the graphics card aswell for what i want coz now i dont care about getting shaders.no problem if u cant coz i found a pre built pc thats alright for $900


    You could get much more for alot cheaper by building your own. Not only that, most prebuilt pcs have horrible shipping. Plus my build included 8 gigs of ram.

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000
    Quote from jppk1»

    Yes, spend $500 on a monitor to fix issues that aren't there with a single card, even better when the fix you suggested wouldn't even do anything. What flawless logic. SLI and Crossfire are only useful for niche usage scenarios when you already have one of the highest end cards out there, aside from that they are extremely impractical due to game support, frame time variance and scaling. Could you stop posting trash?


    Woah, someones angry. First of all, If you dont like what I post, Ignore me. Second of all, Obviously budget gamers wont have SLI, only people with high amounts of cash on their hands. Not only that, but screen tearing still happens with a single card, Look at batman arkham knight. Anyways, I would rather not argue. So if you do respond can we please just be friendly? Its a game forum for crying out loud.

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    posted a message on what to choose
    Quote from Penguino32»

    Even if i had a desktop, i would prefer Quadro


    Heres an article that may interest you.


    http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2385602,00.asp

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000

    Except they don't.


    Nowadays, with PC ports like Wolfenstein TNO screen tearing, and Arkham frame issues it's a hot mess even without SLI / CF.


    G-sync maybe?

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    posted a message on what to choose

    Here are two builds that should suit your needs :)


    500$ Build - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FkJcP6


    400$ Build - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pNLqVn

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    posted a message on Need a computer that can run OptiFine HELP!

    Unlike everyone else, im going to give you an entire set of builds from which you can choose which fits you best. Im assuming you wish to build your own, so these will all be pcpartpicker links. Some of these builds do not include os because I wanted to leave that option open to you, Also these builds do not include a monitor, keyboard, or mouse because obviously this is your choice. I decided to stop at 400$ because thats roughly the price of a console and once you get below 400$ its almost impossible to get good fps with medium to low settings. Cheers!


    1000$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BPxtbv

    900$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rcm7sY

    800$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/wqKxjX

    700$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gPxNFT

    600$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/4XTDNG

    500$ Gaming PC - [AMD Version] http://pcpartpicker.com/p/ksZTxr [Intel Version] - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/P9hQvK

    400$ Gaming PC - http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TKYN7P


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    posted a message on Computer that can handle minecraft with shaders and mods

    You have a very nice budget, since you wanted to go under a 1000$ heres a build for around 900$ :) This is a build it yourself mainly because budget gaming pcs prebuilt are very overpriced. The only time I recommend buying a prebuilt when you want a fully watercooled, master rig. Anyways heres my build :)


    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/rLLXFT

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000

    the major games most smaller gamers play such as CS:GO, BF4, LOL, WoW, Ect. You could say pretty much any game sporting full DX10 support and above likely supports SLI/Crossfire as well.

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000
    Quote from jppk1»

    That's straight out wrong. Only the largest of titles support Crossfire or SLI, as it takes a lot of time and effort to implement multi-GPU support so that the game doesn't become an absolute mess. In addition to that, you will never see perfect performance scaling with current graphics cards due to the rendering method used, that also adds some microstutter and latency in most scenarios. Please do not post complete nonsense, there is actual money on the line here.


    As you can probably tell, two 960s, even when factory overclocked, never beat a reference 980: http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-geforce-gtx-960-strix-2-way-sli-review,16.html

    That's in addition to the fact that the 960 would be having major issues if the resolution was higher than 1920x1200, which would make the 960s worse in every possible way but price even against the 980 which is currently overpriced. Part of that would be compensated due to the performance difference, an aftermarket 980 would quite easily have a 10-15% on titles that do have SLI support.


    TL;DR: Only few games have SLI support. Both setups mentioned are bad with or without that, if you need that much horsepower get a 970 or a 980 ti.


    I assumed he wouldent be playing games that are still in their early stages, but most games support sli.

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    posted a message on Cheapest possible pc for some games

    Heres a pc that costs around the same amount as a console if not cheaper. It should run games just fine :)


    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TKYN7P

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    posted a message on Need A Budget Gaming PC

    This pc i found here should be able to run most games at 60fps with medium to low settings and it should run minecraft very well :)



    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/cT4kyc

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000
    Quote from zorudeam»

    What games support SLI?


    All games support SLI, When the GPUs are in sli they act as one.

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    posted a message on Opinions/Help on a Gaming PC - $1000
    Quote from zorudeam»

    I have a question!


    What is better? GTX980 or 2 GTX960?


    The two 960s may provide slightly better preformance.

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    posted a message on [Help] First PC Build | Can anyone help me?
    Quote from AppleEater01»

    Hello there. All I can say is? Do you actually need more than 1 Titan for 4k. Let alone 1 Titan. They are more for movie making or rendering.


    Also you seem to be pretty r00d. Not everyone can afford a $6000 computer. Regardless, that build is horrendous as stated above.


    I find this build great, I do plan on doing alot of rendering and quite a lot of people can afford pcs like this. This build is pretty much maxxed out and will be the staple of my channel so I want it to be good. Saying its horrendous is a almost idiotic statement.

    Quote from AlexxRyzhkov»

    Just going to say some things:


    First off, you question my intelligence, yet you don't even use the correct form of "you're"?

    Also I could offer some advice, but _Xiae already covered 98% of what needs to be said, and you basically threw out his advice.


    Also Jayz has no idea what he's talking about 90% of the time. He's trashed people for not having aftermarket cooling on their locked i5s


    Thank you for the normal, Not "Angry 12 year old" response. Also on jayz forum i didnt get advice directly from jay, just pc enthusiasts like myself. the point of this thread was advice for mostly cooling options and chassis options but i appreciate all the advice i can get.

    Quote from _Xiae»

    I don't have time to do up a list etc for a loop and related parts right now, but I will give you some advice regarding that side of things when i'm not at work if you would still like help (even if it's for a variety of opinions/help). Apologies for my first response, have been a bit pessimistic and upfront lately for some reason and need to tone it down a bit. I also apologise for the YouTube comment, that was also uncalled for.


    Regarding the other responses to my/his posts, no need to flame him and if he can afford the build and would like to go ahead with it, all the more power to him. No need to be harsh (contradicting myself a bit here, but eh). Regarding the 64GB of RAM comments, yes, there are actually uses for having that much with professional (and some personal/hobbyist) applications, and I also understand the "ballstothewall" concept, but I will still maintain that you won't need 64GB, and that any more than 16, maybe 32, is in excess. In relation to having more RAM than VRAM, technically 16GB RAM would still be more than total VRAM, as SLI VRAM usage will need to copy the same data to each card that shares the workload giving an effective total of 12GB available to applications/games, not 48GB (which is still plenty, mind you).


    Oh, and also worth noting, some members here indeed might not have a lot of money (though I am not included in that demographic), however that's completely irrelevant to the issue in question anyway. Having a lot of money will not change the fact that spending 10k or more on a PC and peripherals with the expectation that they will not get outdated (or just in general) is somewhat silly.


    Thanks for the huge amount of advice and will be considered. But from now on I really only want help on cooling and not how I should purchase certain items, anyways forgiven and thanks.

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