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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread
    Quote from The_Shadow»

    I just discovered that dripstone will still drip water in the Nether. So, if this is left in, one will be able to get renewable water in the Nether - though very, very slowly.


    Water only fills when a water source block is above it which cannot be achieved in the Nether. I personally think that they should have just fill water by default and just have the lava mechanic need the source.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    I find it interesting that the lush caves will have clay in them, unless that is separate from from them and it's only a coincidence. We've needed an alternate clay source for some time now. Swamps are nice but having a second biome (an underground one at that!) with clay in it is a welcome addition.


    Edit: Calcite is also seen in this image but outside of a geode. This is also good news.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    It's funny, because pre 1.7 everyone was complaining about the Swiss cheese caves Minecraft had.


    As for the lava filling Mojang has stated in the Reddit thread that the lava fill rate will likely be slowed down. Probably by giving lava 3 fill levels similar to water and powdered snow.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread
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    I think part of the whole point of the nether is that water sources aren't available, especially when you consider that if it was, obsidian would be far too common and striders would become irrelevant. It also fits in the entire theme of the nether that it's supposed to be hot and relatively inhospitable. I doubt they would have kept such a feature even if it had existed in the first place.


    Um, water in caldrons can't make obsidian. It can be used for potions though and constantly going back to the overworld just to get water is kinda annoying when your base is in the Nether.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    How unfortunate. Stalactites don't fill caldrons unless there is a water/lava source above them. This means that caldrons cannot be filled with water in the Nether. Renewable lava is nice but I was looking forward to a better access to water in the Nether.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    Xisuma uploaded all of them into a single video:

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    Some videos and images have been posted about the stalagtites. Man I am excited for these blocks. They look like they're going to be fun to toy with.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    Powdered snow is interesting but what is more interesting is freezing. I've always wanted a freezing mechanic in Minecraft and this hopefully just the beginning for this effect. It's also not a potion effect which is even better. I'm sure they'll give other mobs proper immunities such as polar bears and snow golems.


    In the Q&A video they stated that the Nether will get no updates in 1.17 since it just got updated (even though it got ravines in 1.13; an update about water).

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    I think they might have mentioned something about skulkers and the end in the Q&A video and made it ambiguous or that they are unrelated. Skulkers are also dark teal rather than the purple that all end related monsters have.


    I doubt the End will really get anything. I don't want a reason to constantly go back there since the only way to access it are strongholds. It serves as a boss arena and a place to get a few end game items. The place is made to feel devoid of anything and I actually kind of like it the way it is. The emptiness accompanied by the bizarre music just feels right. Add any other hostile and it would get annoying (they initially tried implementing phantoms as end creatures but made them undead instead because their presence in the end was horrid to deal with). I think that the end cities should be a bit easier to locate though. Perhaps eyes of ender could point towards the closest cities?


    As for the overworld I could see a wild update that would include the losing biome votes and perhaps a few other features. Wild life is pretty much the only thing I feel the game will lack after the cave update. 1.13-1.17 really gave the parts of the game the life they needed. 1.7 added new biomes but the biomes just need unique creatures to inhabit them.


    I also want to state that stalactites dripping water into caldrons will actually be very significant if the feature works in the Nether.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    Given how 1.16 added biome ambience (to the Nether anyway) I would not be surprised if we get other ambience updates to caves in this update. I'm also willing to bet that the update after this will be some kind of wild update that will focus on adding the losing biome chooser options: Desert, Savanna, Badlands, and Swamp. Perhaps along with other biomes that might need some love such as plains.


    Getting back on topic the new snapshot is pretty neat. Copper looks great and I can't wait to build a statue with it in the future and watch it age as I play. 50-82 days for a single stage is a great time. That means a single block will take 75-246 days to fully oxidize. Though I bet many people would like a way to accelerate the rate.


    Bundles are just about what I expected them to be. I like that they decided to just go with text instead of images but imagine how tall the list will get with 64 different items. Good to see that amethyst is starting with 2 uses. That leaves one more potential use it may get if the Q&A video is anything to go by.


    Edit: also fantastic work giving bee wax two new uses for copper preservation and candles! Now my automated bee farms will have much more use than just honey blocks.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    Yep. After 1.10 I saw one of the devs say that they would have liked to add penguins but didn't due to the ridicule the polar bear received. That was forever ago so don't expect me to go looking for it. Of course the panda got added and it doesn't have a use and the glow squid won so maybe that mentality has changed.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    They don't always need to do nothing but I don't think it's a problem if they do. Each biome should strive to have the diversity of life that the jungle biome has. It has the ocelots, parrots, and pandas. 2 of those serve no purpose (well, ocelots used to have a purpose but still serve as a threat to unprotected chickens) but to add life to the jungle biome.


    I've seen people suggest sharks and shark fin soup which is all kinds of horrible. Notice how the sea turtles and bees award the player for caring for them? That is because it doubles as both a lesson and unique game mechanic. You wouldn't add elephants to the savanna biome but have them drop their tusks on death because that's already a real life problem. You would want the elephant to either be helpful to the player (without taking from another mob) or just serve to diversify the savanna biome that is currently inhabited by the same four live stock animals the rest of the overworld has.No use but unique behavior is better than "kill it to get item".


    Now caves and cliffs is adding goats and they are going to drop their horns by ramming trees. That's pretty neat and means that they aren't "useless". So that means this update has four new mobs. A tamable aquatic creature, a new animal with a new item, a new deadly hostile mob, and a new atmospheric mob for deep oceans (and maybe underwater lakes). That's pretty good in my book.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    I thought striders were a nice addition. I also think that the issue with adding more hostile ocean enemies is that there isn't much you can do about preventing hostile spawns in the ocean which would get annoying if you lived in it (which 1.13 aimed to do) or just trying to traverse the ocean (trident drowned can already one shot a boat). The only hostile I think that would be interesting would be Mob A from the 2017 vote (the terror of the deep) which would have definitely won if people already knew the update's theme. If you add to many hostiles to the ocean it just gets obnoxious.


    Now I definitely prefer new mobs over reskins but underground versions of the common mobs would be a nice touch. We already have cave spiders, husks, and strays but each one has very specific spawn areas for some reason. Husks only spawn in the desert; they don't even spawn in the similar mesa biome. Strays spawn only in the tundra and I forget if they spawn in the cold taiga or not. Cave spiders are the worst offender and only spawn from mine shaft monster spawners. I'd say just have these guys also spawn underground or perhaps in new sandstone (husk) and frozen (stray) caves. Just have the cave spider spawn in caves or have them naturally spawn in the mine shafts.


    As for the warden and it's drops I actually kinda agree on their statement. I hope that the warden is a near unstoppable and uncontainable threat. Attack it; prepare to die. Build a wall; It breaks it. Manage to kill it; congrats, have a trophy and a bunch of experience. Not every mob needs a super important drop or use and I think that the mentality really slows down Minecraft's development of mobs. The warden is something to be feared and I look forward to running for my life.


    We could have so much more wildlife if it weren't for "lol Polar bear does nothing why even add it?" I'm actually glad now that the iceologer lost because the glow squid does nothing but look pretty and Minecraft needs more of those to give the world more life (also just implement the illusioneer instead).

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread

    It answers some questions but too many people did dumb feature requests which resulted in joke answers to evade any misinformation or false obligations. It also brings up some concerns such as not touching the old structures even if it would be something as simple as Mastercaver's solution.

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    posted a message on Minecraft 1.17 Update Opinion Thread


    This video makes me worry about mine shafts and strongholds. These things are seriously outdated and will need changes made to them to have them work with the new cave systems. If a mine shaft generates in a vast empty cave then it will simply make an awkward, floating wood structure. A stronghold will be reduced to floating doors with a giant floating portal room. Somethings needs to happen to these structures. At least Nether forts got a passive buff in the Nether Update: If a fort generates in a warped forest, soulsand valley, or basalt delta it will spawn much more blazes and wither skeletons which make them far more dangerous. These BETA 1.8 structures will be torn to shreds by the new cave mechanics unless they generate in solid stone. Hopefully this issue will become big enough that it could not be ignored.


    However I am excited that crystals and copper will be getting other uses besides what we were initially shown.

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