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Quote from El_Pwnzor

... Wait, what?
Earlier on you said that the political views of a person was negligible and irrelevant to one's IQ. Now you are going back and saying had they been conservative, which undoubtedly they are, their scores would be significantly lower. Macro-education is not related to IQ score. IQ has nothing to do with environmental changes, it simply measures intelligence. And again, you are not refuting my current point, but my support; do you or do you not think that Dumb****istan is branding the US with negative stereotypes?

I'm saying that they are neither "brainwashed" conservatives (or is the North "brainwashed" liberals?) nor are they overtly idiotic. Also, you're wrong if you think IQ tests don't take education into account; educated people will undoubtedly score much higher on mathematics and reading portions of the tests than non-educated, but likely just as intelligent, people (from that page you linked to, "...private schools, whose students on average score 15 points higher on the math test and 19 points higher on the reading test, corresponding to an estimated 5.1 IQ advantage over their public school counterparts..."). Maybe this is a disagreement on what "intelligence" really means.

The only negative stereotypes you mentioned are excessive conservatism, lack of intelligence/IQ, and obesity. As for the obesity rating, the South are undoubtedly fatter. 20-25% Northern obesity versus 30% Southern, which isn't clearly "these people are lards, these people are athletes" to me, but whatever.

Quote from El_Pwnzor

It occurred to me that this has devolved into a war about IQ, when my main point is that Dumb****istan is the very poster child of why people hate America. You can't argue with that; it's completely solid. Europeans hate America because of the supposed anti-intellectualism. Where does this movement start? Groups like the tea-party and Republican extremists. Groups that Dumb****istan advocates. See the Bush administration. See the Republican party's outright refusal to cooperate with Obama. See the largely uneducated forefront of the Tea-party.

You were the one that mentioned IQ points first, and IQ is the best (although very rough and downright deceptive at times) test we have for macro-education.

But anyway, if the South was so very anti-intellectual and GOP brainwashed, surely that would be reflected in horrifying IQ scores (not hair-splitting single digit differences; the statistics surrounding IQ points make such differences almost indistinguishable) or actual clear pre-disposition for the GOP (see above chart, the one not based on the mentioned fallacious data, if you read, but on this).

Quote from El_Pwnzor

I admit, I came off as a bit bias; I didn't believe your statistics at first, so I did some further research. I found out that the statistics we used were from a hoax study. Here is a more recent table of IQ estimates. Less favorable in my opinion, but still does not conform to your theory.
http://anepigone.blogspot.com/2010/05/state-iq-estimates-2009.html

From that page, the author states the average American IQ is 98. Texas is 98.2, smarter than the general US population, and specifically non-Southern states like Florida*, Alaska, Michigan, Rhode Island, Arizona*, Hawaii*, Nevada*, California, New Mexico*, and the District of Colombia (* depending on how you define "Dumb****istan"'s borders). Texas is 3 IQ points dumber than Vermont, two different lands, one from "Dumb****istan" and one from the NE. The UK and similar Northern/Western European regions are about 2-4 IQ points higher than the US, according to "IQ and Global Inequality" (see wiki page for data). Therefore, by your logic, the UK has all the reason in the world to judge us (and keep in mind according to that same source the Canadian IQ average also hovers around 97-99) as a "Dumb****istan."

Quote from El_Pwnzor

It literally spent me 30 seconds to google average IQ by state. And you are right; Political parties and different faiths have no effect on the Intelligence Quotient of an individual. However, I *believe* that IQ has an effect on faith and politics.


"average"
"AVERAGE"
Oh my god. Okay. You seem like a pretty intelligent person. Do you or your feelings account for everyone in Texas? No. Do statistics? Yes.

From here, mentioning the same data you used:


Kerry voters: IQ 100.88
Bush voters: IQ 99.81

A whole IQ point smarter voters of the Democratic party does not make one side diametrically idiotic to the other.

Also,


Not so much the "brainwashed" GOP South you make it out to be, although there is a discernible difference in the most NE states, it's not all that non-fluid throughout the rest of the US.

Quote from El_Pwnzor

I've lived in Michigan for about 10 years maybe, before that I lived in Toronto, Canada. I travel around quite a bit, though. The way I see it is that most of the more intellectual areas of the country remind me of Canada more than the stereotypical America.

But how many years have you lived in Canada, Northeast US, and "Dumb****istan," and how many of them weren't in your childhood?

Quote from El_Pwnzor

AMERICA IS DIVIDED UP INTO TWO PARTS.
1. The USA: Typically the Northeast end of the country, with a few outposts far west. Urban centers encourage intellectual thinking and a culture of manners and diversity. Very much like Canada albeit the geography (dual citizen here). People are accepting of others and open to other ways of thinking. Sure, it may have its problems, but it damn sure is a great country to live in.
2. Dumb****istan: The "Dirty South", where the GOP brainwashes the pseudo-Christian idealists and the redneck masses to convince themselves that they are singlehandedly the most important and greatest people on Earth; therefore, they are unaccepting of others and typically only look out for their interests as opposed to their country or humanity as a whole. Religion reinforces negative values and the "us versus them" mentality and encourage war.
Please, Europeans, don't let Dumb****istan give us a bad name.

So, which state are you from, and how long have you lived in each partition?

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That deserved many more +1s than I have.

I was so proud before I realized this was the false 100% true facts thread. :sad.gif:

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A time when nobody thought they were better than others.

That time doesn't exist, unless you go back to pre-heterotroph/first bacteria eras.

Tickling a Pygmy Owl? What kind of videos are you watching?


Anyway, I don't even recognize comic sans when I see it. What's the big deal about it?

It'd be best not to use it. If you go anywhere, you're going to end up inside the harsh vacuum of space, because the Earth and the Milky Way is moving at extremely fast velocities throughout the universe. And this is a time machine, not a transportation mechanism.


But really, I'd probably go to 2040. Probably won't be too impossibly different from now, but futuristic enough that some hassles will dealt with.

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We swallow seven spiders in our lifetime.

Six of them during our college fraternity hazing.

I temporarily put a mask on for idiots like that. It makes it easier for all of us.

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there was no internet yet -.-

Must've been George Washington, then. I guess the quote is right; it's so hard to tell who said what!

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Quote from NightFox12

Inquire of their intentions. If they're bad, I don't know what I would do. If they're not bad, I'd let them. For example dissection that wouldn't cause injury or death, or just asking me questions about Earth culture would be perfectly fine. Or cloning me. Don't know why they would want to do that, but I would not be against it at all.

You'd probably be pushing the envelope by asking for no injury.